22:00 #startmeeting 22:00 Meeting started Mon Jun 4 22:00:10 2018 UTC. The chair is flocculant. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 22:00 22:00 Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 22:00 #chair bluesabre Unit193 22:00 Current chairs: Unit193 bluesabre flocculant 22:00 evening all 22:00 who's here tonight then :) 22:00 o/ 22:01 one interloper - me 22:01 \o 22:01 anyway lets get going and wait for Unit193 to say he's here :p 22:01 #topic Open action items 22:01 looks like all are done 22:01 #done knome to send another call for council membership nominations 22:01 #done knome to set up the umbrella blueprint for CC 22:01 #done knome to deal with dev.x.o for CC 22:02 nice 22:02 #topic Updates and Announcements 22:02 yup 22:02 :) 22:02 #info Release Schedule for Cosmic not set up 22:02 should do council I suppose 22:02 #info New Council set up 22:03 evening all 22:03 #info Thanks to the 2 outgoing council chappies knome and ochosi 22:03 hi ochosi :) 22:03 anyone else have anything for this? 22:03 you're all welcome and congrats again for the new council :) 22:03 +1 22:04 #info xubuntu code branches moved to git (more on this later) 22:04 (no more updates from me, I think) 22:04 :) 22:05 #topic Discussion 22:05 then :) 22:06 #subtopic Blueprints 22:06 can team leads get their blueprints up together so we've got an idea what to expect 22:06 Umbrella blueprint available at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-c-roadmap 22:06 not that any but the dev one changes much from cycle to cycle :D 22:07 I know my one doesn't ... 22:07 time to break something 22:07 :) 22:07 already updated the artwork stuff, but tbh it's mostly maintenance at this point 22:07 ack 22:07 unless someone wants to step up in that area, it's going to stay at this level 22:07 ochosi is waiting for gtk4 22:08 I had a question about arty stuff - but bluesabre answered that 22:08 ha ha 22:08 you mean as in "waiting for gtk4 to finally give up artwork completely"? 22:08 :) 22:08 lol 22:08 lol 22:08 for the visitors, blueprint progress can be tracked at https://dev.xubuntu.org/ 22:09 the dev blueprint looks good to me 22:09 quite a bit of interesting stuff there too 22:09 yea - to me as well 22:10 wondering whether we should at some point drop certain work items from the blueprint, as we have dragged them with us for at least 1 LTS cycle 22:10 might add some more stuff to it soon after I experiment a bit 22:10 (e.g. parole) 22:10 ochosi: I wouldn't be opposed to dropping that 22:10 then let's just do that 22:10 not going to be learning polkit unless I have to 22:10 we can still keep it as a bugreport in bugzilla 22:11 polkit or packagekit? 22:11 er, packagekit 22:11 p*kit 22:11 (dropped it) 22:11 thanks 22:11 > elementary-xfce: Split packaging for distribution improvements This is in progress. 22:11 the pidgin stuff i also have an unrealistic feeling about 22:12 Unit193: marked as such now 22:12 bluesabre: originally you signed up for patching pidgin, do you still feel you wanna do that? 22:12 It's basically done, just have to update some copyright crap and resubmit.. 22:12 ochosi: yeah, still might poke it 22:12 personally i'd love to get it done, but i know *i* won't have the energy 22:12 too much xfce stuff that needs attention 22:12 trying to do a lot early in the cycle so I have more energy to do investigative patchy stuff 22:13 (at least one less thunar plugin now that blocks shipping 1.7) 22:13 nice 22:14 Unit193, bluesabre: have your feelings wrt xfconf changed? do you still wanna go forward with it this cycle? 22:14 We'll see. 22:14 i'd rather get rid of the maybes as soon as possible so i know what to focus on upstream 22:14 that's my background 22:14 Not at this current stage, but things might start looking better. 22:15 what's the current stage? 22:15 what would have to change for things to look better? 22:17 no-one knows :p 22:18 seemingly... 22:18 Unit193? 22:19 Oh, hi. Yes, not everything is ready yet. Don't remember if it goes further than thunar plugins not being ported yet. Might be just that. I'll look soon. 22:19 i meant wrt xfconf specifically 22:20 the thunar stuff is sorta in progress i'd say, and do-able mostly 22:20 most of this 4.13 stuff is all in ppa's currently is it not? 22:20 if not all 22:20 not sure tbh 22:20 the panel didn't use to be 22:20 Not quite everything, no. 22:20 flocculant: Daily builds will start spitting out for Cosmic. 22:21 would definitely be helpful to get everything PPA'd so ppl can start taking things for a spin 22:21 +1 22:21 I'll see what I'm missing once I get Cosmic up for floc. 22:22 ok - well currently obviously set to bionic here - if I can be told when the ppa actually gets cosmic I can see what I find here 22:22 ack 22:22 yay coordination :D 22:22 that'll at least see a start to it 22:23 I said I would when he asked, I was just in Indiana at the time. Anyway, anything else here? 22:23 Also, xfce4-settings needs to be fixed first. 22:23 not from me on bp's or this 22:23 yeah, remind me what needs done there 22:23 (Xfce 14381) 22:23 bugzilla.xfce.org bug 14381 in Xfsettingsd "xfsettingsd --replace does not replace old daemon" [Normal,New] https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14381 22:23 perfect 22:24 i wonder if this is fixed by the gdbus transition in git master 22:24 will get that on my list for this week 22:25 so I'm no longer a blocker 22:25 anything else? 22:25 nothing more bp-related from me 22:26 #subtopic Git 22:26 what an awesome subtopic for this old git :D 22:26 :D 22:26 so bluesabre :) 22:27 #info We've moved all of our branches (except test cases) to git! 22:27 #link https://wiki.xubuntu.org/devel/git for more information 22:27 We'll be working on writing some quality documentation so nobody is left in the dark 22:27 :p 22:28 bluesabre: actually what's there is a good start 22:28 just for those not reading bp subscription mails : 22:28 not sure you really wanna go into the details of how git works 22:28 that'll soon start to be a copy-paste job from the git book 22:28 ochosi: Perhaps a "git for bzr users" can either be written or linked. 22:28 ochosi: yeah, don't want to do too much, don't want to do too little 22:29 threw me completely 22:29 yeah, sounds like a valid link 22:29 * flocculant has enough trouble as it is 22:30 but yeah, if any git users want to drop by and write up some nice docs, feel free to 22:31 it was the fails that completely did for me tbh 22:31 if it had just worked I would likely have not had a paddy :p 22:31 :D 22:31 anyway - anything else we need to say on this? 22:32 Hopefully we can smooth out the issues over this cycle so there's no more paddies 22:32 other than thanks for doing it :) 22:32 ha ha 22:32 flocculant: nothing more so far 22:32 * flocculant grabs the rocket boots then 22:32 #subtopic Core 22:32 so 22:32 so 22:32 this one 22:32 again :p 22:32 This one might be a bit delayed 22:32 I refreshed all the patches 22:32 I see we've got the files updated? 22:33 and seemingly years of history are now missing from lp:debian-cd 22:33 oh right 22:33 https://code.launchpad.net/debian-cd last modified 2013-05-06 22:33 (wasn't like that before) 22:34 well I guess that's not good then 22:34 no, probably not 22:34 need to ask around about that 22:34 But, the short of it is, patches are up-to-date, merges have been requested 22:34 ok 22:34 and I'll be harrassing the ubuntu teams to get it in this cycle 22:35 so generally what's our next step - get -release involved again? 22:35 https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/debian-cd/ubuntu/files ? 22:35 should look up when typing ... 22:36 bluesabre: obviously there the sooner the better to get it testing 22:36 Unit193: seems like they moved trunk 22:36 breaking https://code.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/debian-cd/xubuntu-base/+merge/347318 :D 22:37 flocculant: definitely 22:38 but yeah, progress on core is being made 22:38 cool 22:38 so at the moment - kind of up in the air till we find out some 'stuff' ? 22:39 yeah, will probably grab slangasek once I get the merge request sorted 22:39 k - do you want to action you there? 22:40 #action bluesabre to continue getting Xubuntu Core patches merged 22:40 * meetingology bluesabre to continue getting Xubuntu Core patches merged 22:40 cos I'm too tired to word it sensibly 22:40 there were 2 other items - but I tabled them as 1 we sort of discussed in bp's and the other depends on that :) 22:41 #topic AOB 22:41 anyone got anything they want to bring up? 22:42 Don't think I do 22:42 oh 22:42 I'll just mention this 22:43 #info Checking of package testcases is well in hand - thanks to willem 22:43 plan to get that moving this cycle some 22:43 awesome 22:44 currently he's stuck on orage trying to work it out even though he never uses it - and it was written by someone who never uses it :p 22:44 anyway - nothing else from me 22:45 so if no-one else has anything ... 22:45 * flocculant waits a short while to cool the boots a bit 22:46 nothing else from me 22:46 nope 22:47 #topic Schedule next meeting 22:47 #action slickymaster to set next meeting 22:47 * meetingology slickymaster to set next meeting 22:47 #endmeeting