== Meeting information == * #xubuntu-devel: Xubuntu Community Meeting, 23 Feb at 23:01 — 23:49 UTC * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2018/xubuntu-devel.2018-02-23-23.01.log.html]] == Meeting summary == === Open action items === The discussion about "Open action items" started at 23:05. * ''DONE:'' bluesabre and ochosi to get on with it and include xfpm 1.6 * postponed for bionic+1: bluesabre to reach out to pidgin devs regarding system themes * ''DONE:'' flocculant to mail list(s) re 17.04 EOL and draft blog post === Updates and Announcements === The discussion about "Updates and Announcements" started at 23:07. * Xubuntu Wallpaper Contest Open * ''LINK:'' https://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-18-04-community-wallpaper-contest/ * Xubuntu 18.04 Default Wallpaper Uploaded * ''LINK:'' https://contest.xubuntu.org/wallpaper_contest/xubuntu-18-04-community-wallpaper-contest/?action=view * lots of package updates since the beginning of bionic, a few recent ones: greybird-gtk-theme 3.22.6, xubuntu-icon-theme 18.04.1, catfish 1.4.4, lightdm-gtk-greeter 2.0.4, menulibre 2.1.5, xfce4-notifyd 0.4.1, xfce4-power-manager 1.6.1 * March 1: Feature Freeze, Debian Import Freeze * March 8: Beta 1 === Discussion === The discussion about "Discussion" started at 23:17. * '''Blueprints''' (23:19) * ''LINK:'' https://dev.xubuntu.org/ * '''16.04.4 / Beta 1 18.04''' (23:24) * '''numlockx''' (23:26) * ''LINK:'' http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ * '''Testing''' (23:33) * ''ACTION:'' flocculant and bluesabre to publish testing blogpost === Schedule next meeting === The discussion about "Schedule next meeting" started at 23:48. * knome is next on the list, but if anybody wants to schedule one, go for it == Vote results == == Action items, by person == * bluesabre * flocculant and bluesabre to publish testing blogpost * flocculant * flocculant and bluesabre to publish testing blogpost == Done items == * bluesabre and ochosi to get on with it and include xfpm 1.6 * flocculant to mail list(s) re 17.04 EOL and draft blog post == People present (lines said) == * bluesabre (88) * flocculant (53) * pleia2 (9) * meetingology (7) * slickymaster (6) * Unit193 (5) * ubottu (4) * genii (2) == Full Log == 23:01 #startmeeting Xubuntu Community Meeting 23:01 Meeting started Fri Feb 23 23:01:39 2018 UTC. The chair is bluesabre. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 23:01 23:01 Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 23:01 !team | Meeeeeeting time :) 23:01 Meeeeeeting time :): team is akxwi-dave, bluesabre, dkessel, flocculant, jjfrv8, knome, krytarik, ochosi, pleia2, slickymaster and Unit193 23:02 Who's around? 23:02 o/ 23:02 yup 23:02 yay 23:02 o/ 23:02 :D 23:03 We'll let the others roll in for a few 23:03 hopeful then :p 23:03 I try to be 23:03 I used to be like that 23:04 lol 23:04 That and I was wrapping up dinner 23:05 ha ha 23:05 Now we'll start 23:05 #topic Open action items 23:05 that almost sounded as if you made a burrito out of your dinner bluesabre 23:05 slickymaster: not a bad idea 23:05 #done bluesabre and ochosi to get on with it and include xfpm 1.6 23:05 (thanks Unit193) 23:06 :) 23:06 #info postponed for bionic+1: bluesabre to reach out to pidgin devs regarding system themes 23:07 Fairly certain that 23:07 #done flocculant to mail list(s) re 17.04 EOL and draft blog post 23:07 happened 23:07 ye 23:07 #topic Updates and Announcements 23:07 #info Xubuntu Wallpaper Contest Open 23:08 #link https://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-18-04-community-wallpaper-contest/ 23:08 nice 23:08 #info Xubuntu 18.04 Default Wallpaper Uploaded 23:08 (looks fancy) 23:08 need some submissions that aren't flowers :) 23:08 Or more flowers 23:08 and rocks 23:08 (ochosi) 23:09 Are most of them photos so far? 23:09 yeah 23:09 (submissions are public) 23:09 https://contest.xubuntu.org/wallpaper_contest/xubuntu-18-04-community-wallpaper-contest/?action=view 23:09 thought the rock one was the same as one from that site he liked last time 23:09 not sure 23:10 there was a request on social media for more original art ones, not just photos 23:10 I tried to do a watercolour thing in Gimp but it looks more like a blurry ball of rainbows 23:11 Tell them we'd gladly accept such contribution? 23:12 Unit193: "patches welcome" is not as friendly as you think it is ;) 23:12 #info lots of package updates since the beginning of bionic, a few recent ones: greybird-gtk-theme 3.22.6, xubuntu-icon-theme 18.04.1, catfish 1.4.4, lightdm-gtk-greeter 2.0.4, menulibre 2.1.5, xfce4-notifyd 0.4.1, xfce4-power-manager 1.6.1 23:12 pleia2: yes, every time I say that I don't get patches 23:12 :) 23:12 That's because it's a polite brush off. :P 23:12 Woops 23:13 Any other updates/announcements? 23:14 Yes there are actually... 23:14 #info March 1: Feature Freeze, Debian Import Freeze 23:15 #info March 8: Beta 1 23:15 Pretty sure we are participating in that 23:15 that's on my list of things to rabbit about 23:15 as is 16.04.4 23:15 next week ... 23:16 which is why I'd not added them to the announcement bit :p 23:16 Good point 23:16 :) 23:17 Let's hop on over to that then 23:17 #topic Discussion 23:17 (get it, hop?) 23:17 Sorry 23:17 :) 23:18 Do we want to talk blueprints or general first? 23:18 don't mind - depending on time - up at stupid o'clock tomorrow :( 23:18 :( 23:19 Blueprints first then, shouldn't take long 23:19 #subtopic Blueprints 23:19 https://dev.xubuntu.org/ 23:19 We're looking a little rough this cycle 23:19 * flocculant wanders off for a bit as no qa bp \o/ 23:20 bluesabre: looks much the same as it did for the last cycle ;) 23:20 But there's probably more done than it appears 23:20 In fact, there definitely are 23:20 I need to update a few things 23:21 So if everybody just wants to poke around and refresh your BPs so we can target release day a bit better... ;) 23:22 I realize now that's not really a good discussion item 23:23 :D 23:23 flocculant: your turn to #subtopic and rabbit 23:23 #chair flocculant 23:23 Current chairs: bluesabre flocculant 23:23 #chair pleia2 23:23 Current chairs: bluesabre flocculant pleia2 23:23 #chair slickymaster 23:23 Current chairs: bluesabre flocculant pleia2 slickymaster 23:23 bluesabre: did you not want to libinput? 23:23 flocculant: decided it's not something to worry about for this cycle 23:24 ok 23:24 we'll probably have to go for it on bionic+1 so I think they are removing -synaptics 23:24 #subtopic 16.04.4 / Beta 1 18.04 23:24 this is just forewarning everyone - with job I have now I can't guarantee marking for release 23:25 also not got much time to be testing each and every version and the tests 23:26 I suspect 16.04 is more or less just install smoketests 23:26 #subtopic numlockx 23:26 bug 1746556 23:26 bug 1746556 in xubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Xubuntu needs a better num lock handler at login and during user session" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1746556 23:27 someone else apparently gets annoyed at having to do this each time they install, so that's at least 2 of us ... 23:27 thoughts on adding that and setting up the lightdm doodah to have it at login? 23:28 That seems reasonable to me 23:28 +1 23:28 !info numlockx bionic 23:28 numlockx (source: numlockx): enable NumLock in X11 sessions. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2-7 (bionic), package size 8 kB, installed size 68 kB 23:28 That also seems agreeable 23:28 though I tend to make my one a lot further on than 50-numlock.conf just in case :p 23:29 yea not very big at all :p 23:29 flocculant: so you currently use this in your config? 23:29 yup 23:29 neat 23:29 Sounds incredibly painless 23:29 have done for years as it never works without 23:29 yea - just a pita the first time :D 23:31 Will probably go ahead with that then, it seems like a value add and nothing more 23:31 thanks for bringing it up 23:31 bluesabre: only time it went wrong was when lightdm changed and you needed the [Seat} bit 23:31 no problem 23:31 * flocculant is done then 23:31 Anybody else got discussion items? 23:32 I'm - as always - concerned about the testing levels we 'apparently' get 23:32 Yeah 23:33 but bored by the discussion now tbf - as is everyone else I expect 23:33 #link http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ 23:33 #subtopic Testing 23:33 then 23:33 to get some fresh views on that at least 23:33 :D 23:33 yay 23:33 It's really just the install media though, I activly run Bionic. 23:33 not sure what we can do about it though 23:33 Unit193: I know :) 23:34 hi Unit193 23:34 trouble is - unless someone actively tells us we have no idea at all 23:34 and frankly someone could just go to the tracker on release day and mark it for release 23:36 bluesabre: not sure we'll ever get fresh views from the few of us in a meeting 23:36 because I'd have to assume we all want it done 23:37 There's still that one guy that emails me about Core ISOs, but that's unofficial stuff still. 23:37 yup 23:37 flocculant: let's plan for a call for testing and social media'ing everywhere 23:37 I'm sure there are people out there - I see pings from the u+1 channel 23:38 bluesabre: mmm 23:38 bored doing those pointlessly as well 23:40 maybe a nice detailed blog post instead 23:40 happy to coordinate on that 23:40 ok 23:41 pleia2, knome_: sound good to you? 23:41 yep 23:41 bluesabre: let me know when's good for you - but I need to afk now 23:41 #action flocculant and bluesabre to publish testing blogpost 23:41 * meetingology flocculant and bluesabre to publish testing blogpost 23:42 flocculant: we can follow up when you're next available :) 23:42 thanks for hanging around for the meeting 23:42 over weekend - later tomorrow, most of Sunday - evenings after 1900 utc 23:43 no problem - night all :) 23:43 nighty night flocculant 23:43 anybody else got anything to discuss? 23:43 nothing here 23:47 pleia2 Unit193? 23:47 nope, I'm good 23:48 I hope not, but if there is I'll just give you repeated pokes. 23:48 Sounds... painful 23:48 #topic Schedule next meeting 23:49 !info knome is next on the list, but if anybody wants to schedule one, go for it 23:49 'is' is not a valid distribution: artful, artful-backports, artful-proposed, bionic, bionic-backports, bionic-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, utopic, utopic-backports, utopic-proposed, vivid, vivid-backports, vivid-proposed, wily, wily-backports, wily-proposed, xenial, xenial-backports, xen 23:49 er 23:49 #info knome is next on the list, but if anybody wants to schedule one, go for it 23:49 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)