== Meeting information ==
 * #xubuntu-devel Meeting, 14 Jan at 21:59 — 22:31 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2015/xubuntu-devel.2015-01-14-21.59.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

=== Open action items ===
The discussion about "Open action items" started at 22:01.


=== Team updates ===
The discussion about "Team updates" started at 22:04.

  * QA - nothing much done since last meeting
  * ''ACTION:'' pleia2 to draft stickers+incentives blog post for QA contributor giveaways
  * light-locker integration added to xfce4 power - manager
  * knome worked on updating and improving the responsive design for documentation
  * pleia2 firmed up Global Jam Xubuntu QA event at Gandi on Sunday, February 8th (2000 - 0100 UTC)
  * knome looked at exporting docbook to pdf - exports look pretty bare/bad and images are not working correctly; the exports might not be worth it since doing that requires substantially more dependencies
  * light-locker-settings removed from the seed.
  * knome and pleia2 added press/marketing contact information to xubuntu.org
  * ''ACTION:'' pleia2 to update docs.xubuntu.org, knome has updated the bzr repo
  * knome has worked hard on refreshing the website looks to match 2015/the OS
  * knome created a page with all mirrors mirroring xubuntu ISOs
  * mirror.anl.gov (our preferred US mirror) is shutting down services on feb 1, we need to list another US mirror
  * knome finalized and copied a better looking mailman info page to -devel and -users
  * ''ACTION:'' pleia2 to copy mailman info page assets under static.xubuntu.org
  * knome cleaned up the processes wiki page, organizing stuff under subpages; feedback welcome on irc/mailing list
  * ''ACTION:'' knome to set up a repository for static.xubuntu.org content

=== Announcements ===
The discussion about "Announcements" started at 22:12.


=== Discussion ===
The discussion about "Discussion" started at 22:17.

 * '''Discuss replacing gnome-calculator with galculator (to get rid of CSD)''' (22:17)
  * ''LINK:'' https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-v-marketing 
  * ''ACTION:'' pleia2 to schedule next meeting



== Vote results ==




== Action items, by person ==

 * knome
  * pleia2 to update docs.xubuntu.org, knome has updated the bzr repo
  * knome to set up a repository for static.xubuntu.org content
 * pleia2
  * pleia2 to draft stickers+incentives blog post for QA contributor giveaways
  * pleia2 to update docs.xubuntu.org, knome has updated the bzr repo
  * pleia2 to copy mailman info page assets under static.xubuntu.org
  * pleia2 to schedule next meeting



== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * slickymaster (56)
 * elfy (35)
 * knome (29)
 * pleia2 (28)
 * bluesabre (11)
 * meetingology (9)
 * Unit193 (5)
 * dkessel (1)



== Full Log ==


 21:59 <slickymaster> #startmeeting

 21:59 <meetingology> Meeting started Wed Jan 14 21:59:51 2015 UTC.  The chair is slickymaster. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 21:59 <meetingology> 

 21:59 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 22:00 <slickymaster> Who's here for the meeting?

 22:00 <pleia2> o/

 22:00 <knome> o/

 22:00 <elfy> hobgoblin is

 22:00 <slickymaster> #chair knome pleia2 elfy

 22:00 <meetingology> Current chairs: elfy knome pleia2 slickymaster

 22:00 <dkessel> o/

 22:01 <slickymaster> Unit193, finished eating?

 22:01 <slickymaster> so

 22:01 <slickymaster> #topic Open action items

 22:01 <Unit193> slickymaster: Not started.

 22:01 <slickymaster> let's see

 22:01 <slickymaster> elfy ->  talk with dev people about releasing/not releasing a2

 22:02 <elfy> done - we're not

 22:02 <slickymaster> care to elaborate on that?

 22:02 <slickymaster> also elfy -> add proposed schedule to incentive pad (http://pad.ubuntu.com/QAIncentive)

 22:02 <elfy> done that

 22:02 <slickymaster> damn, you don't miss one ;)

 22:02 <pleia2> yes, thanks elfy!

 22:03 <elfy> pleia2: I thought I pinged you about that - sorry if I forgot

 22:03 <bluesabre> Hey all

 22:03 <slickymaster> I think that covers it all

 22:03 <elfy> hi bluesabre

 22:03 <pleia2> elfy: you did, I was in flu fugue state :)

 22:03 <slickymaster> hey bluesabre, welcome

 22:03 <slickymaster> moving on then

 22:03 <pleia2> (on the mend now)

 22:03 <elfy> pleia2: oh good - thought I'd forgotten to say

 22:04 <slickymaster> #topic Team updates

 22:04 <slickymaster> pleasi don't forget to use #info

 22:04 <slickymaster> anyone?

 22:04 <elfy> #info QA - nothing much done since last meeting

 22:04 <pleia2> #action pleia2 to draft stickers+incentives blog post for QA contributor giveaways

 22:04 * meetingology pleia2 to draft stickers+incentives blog post for QA contributor giveaways

 22:04 <slickymaster> knome, I think you have something

 22:04 <knome> slickymaster, yes, please give me some time ;)

 22:05 <slickymaster> okie doke

 22:05 <bluesabre> #info light-locker integration added to xfce4 power - manager

 22:05 <bluesabre> Giving up on trying to type with my phone keyboard...

 22:05 <slickymaster> lol

 22:05 <knome> #info knome worked on updating and improving the responsive design for documentation

 22:06 <pleia2> #info pleia2 firmed up Global Jam Xubuntu QA event at Gandi on Sunday, February 8th (2000 - 0100 UTC)

 22:06 <pleia2> would be nice to have some folks lurking around here so I can have people join and ask where to submit bugs ;)

 22:06 <knome> #info knome looked at exporting docbook to pdf - exports look pretty bare/bad and images are not working correctly; the exports might not be worth it since doing that requires substantially more dependencies

 22:06 <pleia2> also introduce the newcomers to some Xubuntu devs (make sure you don't bite them)

 22:06 <slickymaster> I'm inclined to agree with you knome

 22:07 <slickymaster> on the conversion

 22:07 <Unit193> #info light-locker-settings removed from the seed.

 22:07 <bluesabre> Yay

 22:07 <knome> #info knome and pleia2 added press/marketing contact information to xubuntu.org

 22:07 <pleia2> #action pleia2 to update docs.xubuntu.org, knome has updated the bzr repo

 22:07 * meetingology pleia2 to update docs.xubuntu.org, knome has updated the bzr repo

 22:07 <knome> #info knome has worked hard on refreshing the website looks to match 2015/the OS

 22:08 <knome> #info knome created a page with all mirrors mirroring xubuntu ISOs

 22:08 <slickymaster> busy bee

 22:08 <knome> #info mirror.anl.gov (our preferred US mirror) is shutting down services on feb 1, we need to list another US mirror

 22:09 <knome> #info knome finalized and copied a better looking mailman info page to -devel and -users

 22:09 <knome> #action pleia2 to copy mailman info page assets under static.xubuntu.org

 22:09 * meetingology pleia2 to copy mailman info page assets under static.xubuntu.org

 22:10 <knome> #info knome cleaned up the processes wiki page, organizing stuff under subpages; feedback welcome on irc/mailing list

 22:10 <pleia2> knome: I forget, is static.x.o stuff in a bzr repo? maybe it should be

 22:10 <pleia2> I think it's not

 22:10 <knome> pleia2, i'll set that up

 22:10 <pleia2> thanks

 22:10 <slickymaster> I did like the new layout of the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Processes page

 22:10 <knome> #action knome to set up a repository for static.xubuntu.org content

 22:10 * meetingology knome to set up a repository for static.xubuntu.org content

 22:10 <knome> hmm, i think that's it for now for my updates

 22:10 <pleia2> me too

 22:10 <slickymaster> is not so dense/heavy now

 22:11 <knome> yep, it's definitely an improvement

 22:11 <slickymaster> anything else?

 22:11 <knome> and i'll update it with the qa stuff once i find it on my email

 22:11 <knome> /hd

 22:11 <slickymaster> going once

 22:11 <knome> as i said, from me yes

 22:12 <slickymaster> going twice

 22:12 <slickymaster> ok

 22:12 <slickymaster> #topic Announcements

 22:12 <slickymaster> nothing from me

 22:12 <bluesabre> Nothing here at the time

 22:13 <elfy> First milestone we'll take part in is Beta 1 wk 18

 22:14 <slickymaster> ok team, please be sure to take an active stand on the testing side of B1

 22:14 <pleia2> or sooner :)

 22:14 <elfy> bluesabre: while that reminds me - any plans to drag anything from staging into default pre-Beta

 22:15 <slickymaster> I presume you'll be mailing everyone (ML) prior to it elfy

 22:15 <elfy> oh - there is the Community Council meeting tomorrow btw

 22:15 <elfy> slickymaster: ofc

 22:15 <slickymaster> :)

 22:15 <Unit193> I've already done all the testing upgrades I have.

 22:15 <elfy> ty :)

 22:15 <slickymaster> CC meeting at what time and channel elfy?

 22:15 <pleia2> 1700 #ubuntu-meeting

 22:15 <elfy> -meeting 1700UTC

 22:15 <elfy> ha

 22:16 <bluesabre> Elfy: stable releases and any patches we want to carry. Will work with Unit193 and ochosi

 22:16 <elfy> beat you :D

 22:16 <slickymaster> thanks for the heads up on that

 22:16 <pleia2> elfy: I'm just happy we agree

 22:16 <elfy> bluesabre: ok :)

 22:16 <elfy> pleia2: lol

 22:16 <pleia2> it's been a long week :)

 22:16 <slickymaster> and we're only half way through it pleia2 :P

 22:16 <pleia2> indeed

 22:16 <slickymaster> alrighty

 22:17 <elfy> not here - weekend starts tomorrow lunch time :D

 22:17 <knome> pleia2, is it too much to ask to tar the current assets somewhere?

 22:17 <pleia2> knome: can do, sec

 22:17 <knome> ta

 22:17 <slickymaster> #topic Discussion

 22:17 <elfy> shall rattle on a bit about newish things

 22:17 <slickymaster> #subtopic Discuss replacing gnome-calculator with galculator (to get rid of CSD)

 22:18 <slickymaster> it's still in the agenda

 22:18 <elfy> I thought this was now nothing to worry about?

 22:18 <knome> i thought it was ok as well

 22:18 <elfy> still no idea what csd is

 22:18 <slickymaster> it wasn't removed from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meeting so I thought it was still an open item

 22:19 <Unit193> Doesn't look OK here, but maybe it will later...

 22:19 <bluesabre> Yeah, I think the Ubuntu team is continuing to add patches to get rid of csd

 22:19 <elfy> no idea - forgotten - and I still don't know what csd is

 22:19 <elfy> so I would say leave it be :p

 22:19 <slickymaster> lol, will someone explain it, pretty please

 22:20 <slickymaster> Unit193, bluesabre ^^

 22:20 <bluesabre> "Client Side Decorations"

 22:20 <slickymaster> thanks

 22:20 <Unit193> Which means the application can decide what it's menus and stuff look like, not the window manager.

 22:20 <bluesabre> Basically applications are composited on their own instead of by xfwm, so it messes up integration and causes issues

 22:21 <elfy> aah ok - thanks :)

 22:22 <elfy> wasn't something else the *same* ?

 22:22 <bluesabre> Xfce had acceptable support for it now, but it can still be a headache

 22:22 <knome> fwiw, branch for static assets set up (not updated for new stuff yet)

 22:22 <pleia2> thanks knome

 22:22 <slickymaster> thanks knome

 22:23 <pleia2> just a general discussion thing, I'm a bit over-committed this cycle between Real Job and other things, if anyone has interest in marketing blueprint things (like picking up with surveys) please jump in, I might not get to them

 22:24 <pleia2> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-v-marketing

 22:24 <elfy> looking

 22:24 * slickymaster also

 22:24 <knome> pleia2, i just marked one of your items to DONE today ;)

 22:24 <elfy> I could find some time given that qa is taking so much of my time this cycle

 22:25 <pleia2> I thought I wouldn't travel as much, but it turns out I really like airplanes

 22:25 <pleia2> knome: yeah!

 22:25 <elfy> pleia2: wing me what you have for the user survey 1 and I'll have a look

 22:25 <knome> i won't promise anything, but i'll be working with the flyers anyway, so getting those printed might be done by somebody else than you

 22:25 <slickymaster> knome, haven't you already sorted out the alignment for printing?

 22:25 <knome> slickymaster, mostly, see the whiteboard

 22:25 <elfy> given that it's in progress

 22:25 <slickymaster> ok

 22:26 <pleia2> elfy: http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-user-identifies-as

 22:26 <pleia2> elfy: our last discussion on it went bikeshed, so I lost all energy

 22:26 <knome> :(

 22:26 <knome> i'm sorry

 22:26 <elfy> yea - kind of saw that

 22:26 <elfy> pleia2: I'll see if I can move it on

 22:27 <elfy> blueprinted me for those 2

 22:27 <pleia2> knome: no one's fault, I don't know what I'm doing survey-wise so it's hard to argue my simple-is-good points :)

 22:27 <knome> heh

 22:27 <pleia2> thanks elfy

 22:27 <elfy> welcome - might motivate me a bit more than I am atm :)

 22:28 <knome> linked the survey pad ot the whiteboard for future reference

 22:28 <slickymaster> go elfy go elfy go elfy

 22:28 <slickymaster> good idea knome

 22:28 <bluesabre> brb

 22:28 * slickymaster usually spends some time looking for the pad's urls

 22:29 * elfy doesn't - or just looks in his index of stuff :D

 22:30 <slickymaster> anything else anyone wants to throw to the table?

 22:31 <slickymaster> ok, this one was a short one

 22:31 <slickymaster> #action pleia2 to schedule next meeting

 22:31 * meetingology pleia2 to schedule next meeting

 22:31 <elfy> yea

 22:31 <slickymaster> #endmeeting



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