== Meeting information == * #xubuntu-devel: Xubuntu community meeting, 05 Jan at 22:00 — 22:44 UTC * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2015/xubuntu-devel.2015-01-05-22.00.log.html]] == Meeting summary == === Open action items === The discussion about "Open action items" started at 22:01. === Team updates === The discussion about "Team updates" started at 22:03. * Received 20 bundles of stickers and Xubuntu stickers from unixstickers.com * We should have xfce4-panel, xfce4-indicator-plugin, and thunar updates landing soon, new releases from Xfce. === Discussion items === The discussion about "Discussion items" started at 22:05. * 14/300 iso tests done in last 30 days * '''Discuss replacing gnome-calculator with galculator''' (22:06) * '''Alpha2 or ignore and just work with Beta's and Final?''' (22:08) * ''ACTION:'' elfy to talk with dev people about releasing/not releasing a2 * '''We have stickers for QA contributors! Next step?''' (22:18) * ''ACTION:'' elfy Add proposed schedule to incentive pad === Announcements === The discussion about "Announcements" started at 22:39. * More gtk3.14 theming fixes are about to come to greybird and numix in the near future * Community council catch-up is on the 15th, at 17utc. == Vote results == == Action items, by person == * elfy * elfy to talk with dev people about releasing/not releasing a2 * elfy Add proposed schedule to incentive pad == Done items == * (none) == People present (lines said) == * knome (58) * elfy (50) * Unit193 (42) * pleia2 (35) * ochosi (25) * meetingology (6) * ubottu (1) == Full Log == 22:00 #startmeeting Xubuntu community meeting 22:00 Meeting started Mon Jan 5 22:00:01 2015 UTC. The chair is Unit193. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 22:00 22:00 Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 22:00 Howdy and welcome to the Xubuntu community meeting. Agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings 22:00 Anyone else here for it? 22:01 Oh yey, at least elfy is here. 22:01 yep 22:01 !team | Meeting time 22:01 Meeting time: bluesabre, elfy, jjfrv8, knome, lderan, micahg, Noskcaj, ochosi, pleia2, skellat, slickymaster, Unit193 22:01 o/ 22:01 #topic Open action items 22:02 just went to check grub ... 22:02 as I said earlier - not default ;) 22:02 elfy: Likely wouldn't be, systemd-sysv should be installed for that. 22:02 Alright, so I generally just see "elfy to converse with knome about QA processes" 22:02 yep 22:02 did that 22:03 Yey! That's all of them. 22:03 #topic Team updates 22:03 Free for all ^ 22:03 #info Received 20 bundles of stickers and Xubuntu stickers from unixstickers.com 22:03 \o/ 22:03 we can talk about those later :) 22:04 Yep, see that under discussion. 22:04 #info We should have xfce4-panel, xfce4-indicator-plugin, and thunar updates landing soon, new releases from Xfce. 22:04 Anyone else? 22:05 #topic Discussion items 22:05 #info 14/300 iso tests done in last 30 days 22:05 Ah, ouch... 22:06 #subtopic Discuss replacing gnome-calculator with galculator 22:06 I haven't done any, will remedy this (particularly as I prep for the QA event in SF next month) 22:06 Anyone there for this one? 22:06 I've done two upgrade tests, that's it. 22:06 I thought that that calc issue was going away and so no need to do anything 22:07 though I possibly misunderstood 22:07 I've not kept up with it at all 22:07 They may patch it so it doesn't have CSD anymore, which would be the biggest reason to get rid of it. 22:07 can't even remember what csd is ... 22:08 One of the two annoying new GNOME features, can't remember either which though. Alright, so moving on it is... 22:08 yep 22:08 #subtopic Alpha2 or ignore and just work with Beta's and Final? 22:09 so - given that systemd is NOT default 22:09 seemed to work fine to ignore them last cycle 22:09 the only reason that we were possibly going to do A2 was that 22:09 * pleia2 nods 22:09 ochosi seems to like the idea of doing it 22:10 so does slickymaster 22:10 I don't - lot of work for little gain - and ^^ for the main reason to not 22:10 though ochosi did point to gtk3 updates landed 22:11 Yes, yes they did. Some things seem a little..off. 22:11 but we've got a week to make a decision 22:11 Indeed. I just defer to you on it. 22:11 huh 22:11 hello 22:11 knome: Hello! 22:11 hey knome 22:11 fwiw, i'm still sick, so mostly watching 22:12 we'd need to have a decision 19th re A2 22:12 knome: hi and :( 22:12 elfy: Otherwise, we have had a few xfce packages land, and are about to have a few more. 22:12 Anything else under this subtopic? 22:12 Unit193: properly land? 22:12 elfy: Yes. 22:12 k 22:12 from what i've seen, probably better skip a2 22:13 we can probably use the time and effort better testing on something specific 22:13 frankly - it might be good to try and get things from staging into default - then I can see a reason 22:13 can people confirm they'll have time to do that? 22:14 that said - it might be good to do A2 - so that when there isn't sufficient testing then everyone will know I was serious about blocking release 22:14 knome: Two systems I use are already on vivid, so it's a lot easier to test specifics than installs. 22:15 knome: I guess that's down to ochosi and bluesabre mostly 22:15 elfy, i agree people need to take the possibility of blocking seriously, but otoh, i don't think that's the right way to go with it 22:16 elfy, want to take an action item before next week to ask dev people if they want to do the a2 release, or shall i? 22:16 I'm happy to do that 22:16 cheers 22:17 #elfy to talk with dev people about releasing/not releasing a2 22:17 Need #action 22:17 lol 22:17 brain not working 22:18 #action elfy to talk with dev people about releasing/not releasing a2 22:18 * meetingology elfy to talk with dev people about releasing/not releasing a2 22:18 #subtopic We have stickers for QA contributors! Next step? 22:18 See: http://pad.ubuntu.com/QAIncentive 22:18 pleia2: ^ 22:18 right-o 22:18 so now that I have a pile of these, we should do the thing 22:18 i would say set it up for next milestone we're releasing 22:19 or, simply target beta 1 22:19 target B1 22:19 so we have enough time to inform people 22:19 will it only be testers for B1, or anyone who has tested up to and including B1? 22:19 pleia2: well - off the top of my head 22:19 and if we DO say that -team are excluded 22:20 then we are talking about PaulW2U 22:20 for the cycle up to now 22:21 otoh... it's not work in vain 22:21 we really need to finalise who is counted 22:21 well, the point is to encourage other folks, so it won't just be Paul :) 22:21 we can take those into account 22:21 and if paul doesn't win, also send him the sticker the first time 22:21 done 22:21 we can do that 22:21 we should have several "winners" 22:21 I have 20 of these things 22:21 lol 22:22 at least 5 for the cycle I'd say 22:22 but we need to once it's going have finite times 22:22 pleia2, the point is to do that for each milestone 22:22 so 3 for each then 22:22 pleia2, so a1, a2, b1, b2, final are possible per cycle 22:22 eg - after b1 - the next is for the next month - and on 22:22 oh, month 22:22 a1 is already gone 22:22 i thought it was release, nvm :) 22:23 pleia2, i'll tell you a secret... there will be another release cycle 22:23 I'm playing this cycle by cycle, not so far in the future 22:23 would be nice to give a sticker set to our QA lead and project lead too, off-band ;) 22:23 knome: there was - monthly, then milestones, then release - rinse repeat 22:23 right, that works 22:23 i was just misremembering 22:23 and my head is full of snot 22:24 ew 22:24 i'm sorry 22:24 dead brain cells then if that's better 22:24 and the same for packages 22:24 what if we simply made b1 the first target 22:24 and see how it goes 22:24 wfm 22:24 o/ 22:24 i can still do those digital certificates 22:24 * ochosi reads backlog... 22:25 and the custom wallpaper for the release winner(s) 22:25 but we do need to do it monthly afterwards imo 22:25 I'll send along a hand-written thank you as well 22:25 pleia2, ++ 22:25 milestones being seperately counted within the month 22:25 elfy, that works for me, as long as we just get it started :) 22:25 yea ... 22:25 elfy: can you add a proposed schedule to the etherpad? 22:26 or a new google cal :) 22:26 #action elfy Add proposed schedule to incentive pad 22:26 * meetingology elfy Add proposed schedule to incentive pad 22:26 pleia2: yea - but not today :) 22:26 hi ochosi 22:27 I think XPL and QA Lead should get t-shirt not stickers :p 22:27 huhu 22:27 elfy: thanks, no rush :) once we have some dates, we can decide how many "winners" each one and prep the blog post 22:27 ok, caught up nw 22:27 I only have one t-shirt and it's mine :D 22:28 we can get more, but have to buy them and shipping 22:28 i have moolah 22:28 lol 22:28 really not serious :) 22:28 it's a nice t-shirt though, we should link it to our site now that I've confirmed 22:28 yup 22:28 sounds good 22:28 fits nice, feels nice 22:28 tbh, sending a t-shirt for everybody who sticked along for a long enough time (tm) should get one 22:29 *would be fair 22:29 poor knome can't write/think anymore 22:29 i don't need one if people think i just want one free myself 22:29 :P 22:29 get well again soon! :) 22:29 :) 22:29 trying to.. 22:30 yeah, actually it would be a nice gesture 22:30 can we ask for donations for something like that? 22:30 * ochosi always brings up the uncomfortable donations topic 22:30 lol 22:30 that's ok 22:33 pleia2, get everyone to one conf 22:33 #chair knome 22:33 Current chairs: Unit193 knome 22:33 knome: that might be too much 22:33 knome: Only lost a little log, then. Nice. 22:33 unless some of us are going anyway 22:33 pleia2, like you? ;) 22:33 usually me 22:33 bluesabre is teh problem case 22:33 pleia2: had i known, i had gone to fosdem... 22:34 ochosi: they sound out talk acceptences quite late, so I didn't know until I mentioned it here-ish :\ 22:34 anyway 22:34 anyway, that's a tangent 22:34 sounds like we have a plan for stickers 22:34 ochosi, how's the xfce bountysource stuff going? 22:35 knome: Perhaps that should go in AOB? 22:35 quite good actually 22:35 lemme quickly check the funds 22:36 Unit193, maybe. 22:36 ochosi, i was asking because i was wondering if that was a realistic target for our "own" money 22:36 about 1000$ for the team 22:36 and 350$ on bugs 22:37 so the 1000$ can be spent by the team for various causes, incl conferences or hackatons i think 22:37 or as regular bug bounties 22:37 the 350$ are bound to specific bugs 22:37 nice 22:38 so from my pov that was a success 22:38 good 22:38 it should be managed more actively though 22:38 but that's a different story 22:38 yep 22:39 #topic Announcements 22:41 #info More gtk3.14 theming fixes are about to come to greybird and numix in the near future 22:41 that's about it from my side 22:41 the rest is playing catch-up with what happened or didn't over the holidays 22:41 The Calendar isn't loading properly for me, but there's a CC catch up coming up, IIRC. 22:42 15th 22:42 yup, 15th 22:42 17utc 22:43 #info Community council catch-up is on the 15th, at 17utc. 22:43 Cool, any more? 22:43 I'm all done 22:43 i'm all done as well .P 22:43 same 22:44 So next up to schedule next meeting: Slickymaster! 22:44 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)