== Meeting information == * #xubuntu-devel: Xubuntu community meeting, 20 Mar at 18:01 — 19:14 UTC * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2014/xubuntu-devel.2014-03-20-18.01.log.html]] == Meeting summary == === Pick a chair === The discussion about "Pick a chair" started at 18:01. === Ibus vs installed keyboard layout - https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1284635 === The discussion about "Ibus vs installed keyboard layout - https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1284635" started at 18:12. * ''LINK:'' https://github.com/ibus/ibus/commit/e64b25c0ab8fadeae97fe78dcfcbc3a5d0869c6b * ''LINK:'' https://github.com/ibus/ibus/commit/e64b25c0ab8fadeae97fe78dcfcbc3a5d0869c6b#diff-feb6c99dcbf1f2fc7ffa5b43075149b3R42 maybe? === Schedule next meeting === The discussion about "Schedule next meeting" started at 19:14. * Next Xubuntu community meeting: Thu 27 Mar, 19UTC == Vote results == == Done items == * (none) == People present (lines said) == * knome (59) * micahg-work (23) * elfy (20) * pleia2 (7) * dkessel (3) * meetingology (3) * ubottu (2) * slickymasterWork (2) * Unit193 (1) == Full Log == 18:01 #startmeeting Xubuntu community meeting 18:01 Meeting started Thu Mar 20 18:01:02 2014 UTC. The chair is knome. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 18:01 18:01 Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 18:01 #topic Pick a chair 18:01 volunteers? nominations? 18:03 sorry - in and out of the room 18:03 on unreliable cell wifi 18:03 excuses :) 18:03 :D 18:04 i can wait for a chair to pop up... 18:04 :) 18:07 I can try, but ssh is too slow right now to reasonably paste action items into channel 18:07 and if I disappear, someone else has to :) 18:08 (my connection was much better yesterday, before the snowmageddon) 18:09 well if elfy is in and out, you have bad connectivity, i'm feeling lazy and micahg sits quiet, why do we even have the meeting? 18:09 just asking... 18:09 maybe a different time would be betteR? 18:09 19UTC (one hour later) usually has worked pretty well 18:10 nobody has said it's bad for them 18:10 and it was discussed last time that an hour before is better for most 18:10 fine with me, though I have a meeting at 19:30 today 18:10 it's fine when I'm home :) 18:10 now, i'm not blaming about people not showing up 18:10 the meetings aren't obligatory 18:10 it shouldn't be a chore 18:10 if it is, maybe we should organize communication in another way 18:10 I did say that 1800 was bad for me ;) 18:10 I pop up to answer questions 18:11 i can chair a meeting, and run down the agenda, but if people are here just because they feel they have to be... that kind of sucks 18:11 elfy, except this week :) 18:11 well - holiday :) 18:11 and yeah, this change in time was supposed to be a trial... 18:12 it is still bad though - food for little one shouldn't have to wait for two IRC meetings ;) 18:12 trial failed, maybe my internet will be better in 50 minutes 18:12 hah 18:12 #topic Ibus vs installed keyboard layout - https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1284635 18:12 Launchpad bug 1284635 in ibus (Ubuntu) "Keyboard layout changes after login" [High,Confirmed] 18:12 let's discuss about this 18:13 elfy, want to outline? 18:15 mmm - well - not much I can add to the bug report I did, but this is a big issue imo 18:15 I'm not sure how many this would affect - whether just UK or not - but it would be all of them 18:16 i wonder if this is related to some of the changes in gnome-settings-manager (time-admin, users-admin) or so which were landed earlier this cycle 18:16 also not sure what we can do about it - though removing ibus fixes it 18:16 I have had that on standard ubuntu some time ago I believe 18:16 so far I haven't saw it affecting the PT keyboard layout 18:16 I'm pretty sure that when ibus ended up in the panel is when the issue started - but can't be more speciic than that 18:16 dkessel, can you add on the bug then please? would be good to have more eyes on it.. 18:17 didn't somebody report this on FR layout, or do i misremember? 18:17 i'm wondering if it has something to do with truncating the LANG to two characters 18:17 we got 1.5.5 of ibus 5 days before that bug was filed, maybe it's a regression? 18:17 you might remember me trying to work with a freench layout 18:18 micahg-work, very likely in that case 18:18 elfy, let's try with an older version of ibus :) 18:18 Update en-us compose table and add locale tables for xkb engines. 18:18 micahg-work: extrmely possible - I remember seeing it - then thinking nothing of it for a day or so 18:18 hmmh 18:18 gtg - back in 30 18:18 I guess it would help if I could find the old bug ID. Will try to find that. Very limited time these days 18:18 micahg-work, have a link to the commit? 18:18 e64b25c0ab8fadeae97fe78dcfcbc3a5d0869c6b 18:19 sorry, just going off launchpad info here 18:19 previous version of ibus: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ibus/1.5.4-1ubuntu1 18:20 https://github.com/ibus/ibus/commit/e64b25c0ab8fadeae97fe78dcfcbc3a5d0869c6b 18:21 * knome is looking at the last link 18:21 https://github.com/ibus/ibus/commit/e64b25c0ab8fadeae97fe78dcfcbc3a5d0869c6b#diff-feb6c99dcbf1f2fc7ffa5b43075149b3R42 maybe? 18:21 oh, soryr, that's a test 18:22 i can run a test with the old version shortly 18:23 zsyncing daily 18:29 Found my old bug ID for this: bug 1240198 18:29 bug 1240198 in indicator-keyboard (Ubuntu) "wrong keyboard layout active after booting into desktop, after upgrade to saucy" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1240198 18:41 back 18:44 just running an installation 18:45 dkessel: oh yea - I'd nto have noticed that one at all 18:47 yep, can confirm 18:48 good - although I've had people confirm it - I thought I was going madder 18:48 so, maybe it's an older issue than 18:48 i'll check with the old ibus package soon 18:48 micahg-work: we never had it previously 18:48 dkessel's bug is from pre-trusty 18:48 I've not seen it until ibus pitched up on the panel 18:48 micahg-work: yes - and it's for an ubuntu indicator 18:49 did we install ibus pre-trusty? 18:49 I would think so, let me check 18:50 yes, from at least oneiric on 18:50 micahg-work: I'd have noticed this in saucy - I often use things like # in passwords - even in vm's that last one boot 18:50 (those are all the seeds I have checked out locally) 18:51 raring had ibus 1.4, saucy brought 1.5 18:54 micahg-work, is there a clean way to install an older package version? 18:55 if you have a repo with the old version available, you can add it to your apt sources and use -t with apt-get install to get that version 18:56 i guess i don't ;) 18:56 but stuff doesn't necessarily downgrade like that gracefully 18:56 sure 18:56 you can download all the debs and pass them to sudo dpkg -i on the command line 18:58 i guess the old debs aren't saved anywhere? 18:59 well at least i can confirm that removing ibus fixes... 19:00 knome, in launchpad for sure 19:00 gave link above to the upload, click on the arch you want 19:00 ahh 19:00 bbiw 19:00 hidden! 19:03 ./#endmeeting ? 19:03 nah. 19:03 (was aware, thanks.) 19:05 micahg-work, if there is any possibility you could look at the merges + uploads today, cool 19:05 micahg-work, if not, please let us know and we will find another way to do it 19:05 ok 19:05 (later not preferred, but...) 19:06 well at least installing the old ibus doesn't break the layout.. 19:07 upgrading back to latest 19:08 * elfy is back again 19:09 so - a regression then 19:09 well, have to look more 19:10 apparently i would have had to manually start something 19:12 hmm, not sure 19:13 the package ends up with a crash... 19:13 so downgrading isn't clean 19:14 #topic Schedule next meeting 19:14 #info Next Xubuntu community meeting: Thu 27 Mar, 19UTC 19:14 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)