21:05:00 #startmeeting 21:05:01 Meeting started Thu Jan 12 21:05:00 2012 UTC. The chair is AlanBell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot. 21:05:01 21:05:01 Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 21:05:11 hi all, who is here for the meeting? 21:05:18 here 21:05:23 ola 21:05:25 o/ 21:05:47 o. 21:05:59 My arm fell off :( 21:06:10 whoops 21:06:13 / 21:06:16 ^ there it is! 21:06:51 Cheers! 21:06:56 Glue? 21:07:09 #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeamMeetingAgenda 21:07:23 [TOPIC] The Chair - review of action items from last meeting 21:08:14 #progress monthly reports 21:08:30 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/TeamReports/11/December this is december, might be nice to add some links to it 21:08:58 Sorry I'm late 21:09:00 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/TeamReports/12/January is ready for people to add stuff 21:09:36 any short bullet points of a team or significant individual activity can be added to the report 21:09:58 o/ 21:10:05 #progress Christmas Party 21:10:12 that was great fun :) 21:10:51 here...sorry wasn't watching 21:10:58 Darn tootin it was 21:11:11 https://plus.google.com/109175303602657131317/posts/DdqGasa4qKn 21:11:38 :) 21:12:22 #progress en_GB iso 21:12:40 I spoke to some people about this 21:13:05 it is a bit pointless for us as the default install is in English and has the en_GB stuff in it already 21:13:24 Indeed. 21:13:58 we could tweak a few settings and make a .iso image that wouldn't be quite as easy to support as the official ones 21:14:23 Are there other regional specific ISOs? For instance there are different French versions of fr_FR 21:15:03 for some languages the localised iso makes a heap of sense 21:15:37 if anyone does want to do a cockney or gordie iso that would be great fun, but probably not a useful team activity 21:15:55 Hah 21:15:55 the only real differences is spellings...to me, an iso with a different language should only be if theres a possibility of someone not being able to understand one already existing...no? 21:16:04 Agreed, it's not like we speak in derivatives of English. 21:16:15 the default kb layout isnt UK though ☺ 21:16:22 nobody needs en_GB to use their computer 21:16:23 you specifically have to set that 21:16:32 not worth spinning an entire CD for that though ☺ 21:16:33 Is it worth creating a whole ISO just for a kb layout change? 21:16:46 no 21:16:51 def not 21:16:59 is this just installer language, then? 21:17:04 YaManicKill: it was worth investigating as it might be more appealing to the educational market, but it is not worth it 21:17:38 'software centER' niggles me until I swap languages :) 21:17:38 a welsh language iso? 21:17:39 AlanBell: was the thinking that it would save time? 21:17:45 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/LocalizedImagesRollout 21:18:05 YaManicKill: If it'd save time to have an ISO in the right language, it'd save even more time to automate the whole install 21:18:33 BigRedS: yeah, that's what i was thinking. generally they install it once and then they have their installed image that they just blast onto the other computers, no? 21:18:33 we could have put the Ubuntu UK podcast in Rhythmbox by default 21:18:55 YaManicKill: I believe so as the machines are normally identical. 21:18:56 loco specific iso might be a good idea 21:19:00 Manx would be good one day. Only a handful on translation team though, but there's a Manx language primary school here, who would probably bite your hands off. 21:19:07 and put 'popey for president' in subliminal messages 21:19:36 isleofmandan: would the teachers be interested in doing translations? 21:19:37 isleofmandan: is there a manx language file in ubuntu? 21:19:39 _although_ if you set location as UK in the installer, it'd be much better to install package ubuntu-uk-desktop with RB podcasts etc. 21:19:41 sorry I'm late 21:19:56 Should all Ubuntu podcasts be in Rhythmbox by default? 21:20:02 There's a partially done translation.. New releases come faster than translation team can cope! 21:20:16 bigcalm: I think there should be an option to have them there. 21:20:27 Teachers might want to do the translations. I will ask around. 21:20:34 another option woudl complicate things 21:22:33 https://translations.launchpad.net/+languages/gv 21:22:56 interesting stuff 21:23:09 ok, lets move on to the happy hours 21:23:19 [TOPIC] AlanBell - The Next Happy Hour(s) 21:23:41 this kind of paused over christmas, need to get things starting again 21:24:10 there are vauge expressions of interest in Oxford, Reading, Sussex, Cambridge, Southampton 21:24:22 however we are lacking a firm date and place for the next one 21:25:12 Southampton is quite a strong candidate, I am probably going to be down there next week, maybe thursday 21:25:25 anyone have an alternative proposal? 21:25:51 the awkward moment when everyone wants to propose something but doesn'twant to be the one to organise it :-P 21:26:18 there really isn't much in the way of organising 21:26:42 just state a day that is convenient for you to go to a pub 21:26:45 and which pub 21:26:53 that is *it* 21:27:11 ok, well i will suggest one for Glasgow, but not this month...exams... 21:27:47 Well I can do one on the Isle of Man pretty much any week. There'd only be me and possibly Mr S who would turn up though! 21:27:47 ok, so I will sort out when I am going to be in Southampton and put that one out as the next one 21:27:50 If only a) people lived near me and b) I could get served at a bar. 21:28:18 jutnux: you might be surprised...when i found out how many people near me run ubuntu i was 21:28:35 On the Ubuntu map there is nobody. 21:28:41 :P 21:28:43 I would offer one, but we had one in Nottingham quite recently. 21:28:44 isleofmandan: in his bus! 21:29:09 the ubuntu map? 21:29:43 YaManicKill: http://ubuntu-uk.org/where-are-we/ 21:30:03 where do you live jutnux 21:30:37 Norwich/Great Yarmouth 21:32:18 ahh good, added myself on that map now then 21:32:56 ok, so proposing a happy hour is fun and easy, and more people should do it :) 21:33:08 I'm happy to organise reading for next month 21:33:20 #action AlanBell sort out pub and date for Southampton Happy Hour this month 21:33:20 * meetingology AlanBell sort out pub and date for Southampton Happy Hour this month 21:33:42 #action daubers pick pub and date for happy hour Reading in Feb 21:33:42 * meetingology daubers pick pub and date for happy hour Reading in Feb 21:33:48 (sorry, just catching up) 21:33:50 quick q... do we generally only do 1 a month? 21:34:31 YaManicKill: yeah, but it is like the pirate code, more of a guideline than an actual rule 21:34:35 arrr 21:34:42 that's fine, i'm happy to stick to that 21:34:49 i'll be happy to organise one for another month :-) 21:34:51 in glasgow 21:35:00 cool 21:35:15 will try and russle up some encouragement in scotlug and geeksoc 21:35:46 doing them monthly seems to be about right to keep it going 21:36:08 I'll probably get the train one day 21:37:14 ok, lets move along 21:37:37 [TOPIC] The Chair - Any Other Business 21:37:42 I have a few 21:38:06 we need to start thinking about launch parties for Precise 21:38:23 12.04 is a Long Term Support release which is nice 21:38:32 what do we need to organise? 21:38:33 Google+ Hangout? 21:38:46 As an internet based event? 21:38:47 jutnux: interesting idea...but i don't like that its only 10 people? 21:38:54 I thought that you could have more now. 21:39:05 although...here's an idea 21:39:13 Synchronous happy hours? 21:39:15 A G+ hangout would be fun for a short period of time. We should use it more often, not just for a release party 21:39:15 connect the UK release parties with a hangout? 21:39:46 interesting idea 21:39:50 Both of them are interesting ideas. 21:39:50 do we need to find a venue? 21:40:07 And I agree that Hangouts should be used more often 21:40:14 brunogirin: not sure, I will prod Canonical about it 21:40:15 yeah def 21:40:33 I agree that linking up with g+ hangouts would be a fun idea. Though every location is likely to be noisy, not sure what the interface would make of it :) 21:40:48 AlanBell: ok, if we do, I may be able to help 21:40:57 noisy yes, but it could be more a sort of "look, there are other people doing these things across the UK...its not just us" 21:41:05 a community type thing, even if yu don't talk to people 21:41:10 you* 21:42:49 ok, we can think about that further as we go along, I just wanted to bring it up now to kick off the thinking process 21:43:08 next thing to discuss is other activities you want to do this year 21:43:38 we have done some kind of a geeknic in the summer for the last couple of years, that might be fun to do again 21:43:46 \o/ 21:43:55 I'd love to attend my 1st one 21:44:04 We should do a geeknic in the countryside somewhere rather than smelly london 21:44:18 daubers +1 21:44:25 yeah 21:44:37 but...needs to have good transport links 21:44:53 Organise a lift-athlon 21:44:53 Since when did the countryside ever have good transport links? :P 21:44:55 +1 for geeknic 21:45:02 London has some big parks, no? 21:45:08 jutnux: yeah, I wondered that 21:45:27 jutnux: last one was in Hyde Park 21:45:30 isleofmandan: yeah, we did hyde park 21:45:42 all i'm saying is i'd love to come, but coming from Scotland I am not driving :-P 21:45:43 the last one was near the British Library 21:45:44 Ah. Maybe another big city park then? 21:45:51 Why don't we do one at bletchley park? 21:45:58 +1 21:46:02 +1 21:46:06 +1 21:46:08 +1 21:46:12 +1 21:46:17 especially as it's Alan Turing year 21:46:25 Ooo 21:46:26 +1 21:46:34 i like... 21:46:39 I've yet to go to Bletchly Park myself 21:47:02 Which bit of the year are we looking at? 21:47:05 It is meant to be beautiful 21:47:10 bigcalm: Obviously the Summer ;-) 21:47:50 Actually it probably makes no difference seeing that the weather is messed up throughout the year. 21:48:12 this seems worth investigating in more detail 21:48:17 +1 21:48:20 Good lad :) 21:48:43 train station beside it!!!! 21:49:04 #action AlanBell and daubers to find out more about picnic/visit possibility at Bletchley 21:49:04 * meetingology AlanBell and daubers to find out more about picnic/visit possibility at Bletchley 21:50:02 :) 21:50:06 another potential activity has been suggested by selinuxium 21:50:07 * daubers has to go collect his missus 21:50:12 will catch up later! 21:50:15 o/ daubers 21:50:16 Goodbye 21:50:19 o/ 21:50:23 #link http://www.watercressline.co.uk/Our-Services/RAT 21:50:40 steam, beer and Free Software 21:50:48 a winning combination 21:50:48 ah yes, didn't he organise it before? 21:51:05 well I kind of did, and then went on holiday and missed it 21:51:12 ah yeah 21:51:13 haha 21:51:27 so if we do this again, I am not going to make that error! 21:51:36 alanbell: so we have to organise it again so that you can go 21:51:49 as I recall it was a *dreadful* holiday and I hated every second of it 21:52:05 :( 21:52:09 because you were thinking "I could have gone to RAT" instead? 21:52:31 I'd go just for the Ale 21:52:34 Mmmm, ale 21:52:58 anyhow, the train is something that needs to be organised quite some way in advance 21:53:38 Hayley and I are in Northen Ireland during the 1st June date, so not then ;) 21:53:51 yeah with 24 dates in 2012, that doesn't leave too many options! 21:55:24 anyone got opinions on where in the year we should schedule it (roughly)? 21:55:41 spring? 21:55:56 April/May? 21:56:31 oh, there is one on my birthday 21:56:39 Isn't that handy? 21:56:43 Free beer for you! 21:57:32 well I would be interested in the 16th of June I think 21:58:30 ok, lets park that one for the moment, and see if anyone on the mailing list has strong opinions 21:58:30 that date rings a bell 21:58:34 My year is mostly free so far 21:58:45 anyone else got any other business to raise at this time? 21:58:59 AlanBell: is that an action for you to send an email to the mailing list then? 21:59:23 brunogirin: I will do it in the mail with the minutes 21:59:27 Yes, I have: Ubuntu Application Hacking 21:59:34 It was Christmas, I didn't do anything 21:59:48 but I'm tempted at doing it at the hackspace 21:59:58 so I need to get that sorted 22:00:48 Year of Code - are we going to make anything of it? 22:01:22 bigcalm: what is that? 22:01:55 http://codeyear.com/ 22:02:01 it is the gnome year of accessibility http://blogs.gnome.org/gnomg/2011/12/16/make-2012-the-year-of-accessibility-for-gnome/ 22:02:43 I'm an xfce user 22:03:58 that looks quite cool, what were you thinking we should do with it? 22:04:18 I'm not sure 22:04:27 Encourage members to participate with it? 22:04:40 Just wondering if we should/could have any influence being a loco 22:05:13 what about trying to contact an organisation like AbilityNet and doing a day of accessibility testing with them? 22:05:27 Interesting 22:06:29 bigcalm: YaManicKill: could we host a loco leaderboard or competition for that codeyear thing? 22:06:49 i signed up for codeyear 22:07:00 their website is a bit picky about what browser you use 22:07:25 Sorry - gotta go - see you all soon 22:07:33 bye barrydrake 22:07:37 in the same vein, should we do anything for Young Rewired State? http://youngrewiredstate.org/ 22:07:45 * jutnux looks at it 22:07:45 I'm currently trying it out in Chromium 22:07:58 * AlanBell has signed up to be a mentor for Young Rewired State 22:08:28 Do you need a CBR check for that? 22:08:33 CRB even 22:08:45 CRB, I don't think so, and I do have one 22:09:10 AlanBell: what does being a mentor involve? 22:09:59 I don't think there are near me, again. 22:10:03 working with a bunch of students, helping them get their ideas out, and into something they can make work 22:10:17 I could do that, will look into it 22:10:55 jutnux: I think that some expenses are paid 22:11:00 I don't work well with students ;) 22:11:49 we are all students 22:11:57 oh look, on that video is asenseur 22:12:20 Who is asenseur? 22:13:13 "This video contains content from UMG, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds" Boo :( 22:13:16 that is his IRC nick, not online right now 22:13:44 isleofmandan: harsh! 22:14:16 Isle of Man IP address ranges confuse lots of Geo-IP things. 22:14:19 :) 22:14:24 jutnux: http://youngrewiredstate.org/yrs2012/ just fill in the form :) 22:14:57 anything else we need to cover, I am aware we have rambled on for a while now 22:16:11 I'm pleased that this meeting has lasted a little longer than the last one... 22:16:44 ok, shall we set the next meeting for 3 weeks or so, and we can turn some of these hazy ideas into things with dates on 22:16:54 Ok 22:17:03 ok 22:17:05 2nd Feb? 22:17:07 AlanBell: Done :-) 22:17:16 yup, 9PM good again? 22:17:25 Sounds fine to me. 22:17:28 I'll actually put time on in my calendar 22:17:32 ok 22:17:35 ah yes I forgot! 22:17:39 someone else want to chair it? 22:17:56 * jutnux points at popey and daubers 22:18:08 * AlanBell points at jutnux :) 22:18:09 and bigcalm 22:18:13 Humm 22:18:24 I'll give it a shot 22:18:35 Might need some schooling at some point though ;) 22:18:40 This is my first meeting so I don't really know the ropes :-) 22:18:52 ok, bigcalm this time, jutnux next maybe :) 22:19:03 #endmeeting