== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-touch-meeting: Dekko meeting, 14 May at 12:01 — 12:36 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-touch-meeting/2015/ubuntu-touch-meeting.2015-05-14-12.01.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==




== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * popey (28)
 * DanChapman (25)
 * JMulholland (17)
 * faenil (4)
 * meetingology (3)



== Full Log ==


 12:01 <popey> #startmeeting Dekko meeting

 12:01 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu May 14 12:01:42 2015 UTC.  The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

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 12:01 <popey> Hey guys, how are you doing?

 12:02 <DanChapman> I'm doing great thanks. You recovered now?

 12:02 <faenil> doing good thanks :)

 12:03 <DanChapman> Hey JMulholland

 12:03 <popey> heya JMulholland

 12:03 <popey> mostly

 12:03 <popey> still a bit woozy

 12:03 <JMulholland> hey DanChapman and popey :)

 12:03 <JMulholland> not well popey?

 12:03 <JMulholland> or just a heavy night? ;)

 12:03 <popey> wasn't, better now.

 12:03 <popey> hah, i wish

 12:04 <JMulholland> glad to hear it

 12:04 <popey> DanChapman: so OTA 3.5 went out earlier in the week.

 12:04 <popey> OTA 4 is due ~28th March I believe

 12:04 <popey> and will be vivid based. FYI

 12:05 <DanChapman> Awesome, i can't release any updates till we hit vivid now anyway.

 12:05 <DanChapman> I've made some great improvements to the message list views performance. It flies along now but it depends on non broken chroots which utopic ones basically suck for installing additional deps

 12:07 <faenil> popey: you're lagging a couple of months behind :D

 12:07 <popey> hah

 12:07 <popey> sorry, yes, 28 may

 12:07 <popey> duh

 12:07 <popey> brain not functional

 12:08 <faenil> :)

 12:08 <DanChapman> HAve you heard anything more on the polld notifications I was going to get hold of bret next week as it's still unclear if polld is going to do it or they provide a hook to run a dekko binary

 12:09 <DanChapman> I'm kind of in limbo about starting anything

 12:09 <popey> No, We should get an update from bret.

 12:09 <popey> Want me to follow up on that mail thread?

 12:09 <popey> (feel free to if you'd rather)

 12:10 <DanChapman> popey: if you want to, i don't mind either way :-)

 12:10 <popey> ok

 12:10 <DanChapman> also there is this https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1378343

 12:11 <DanChapman> I'm not sure how that is going to work as dekko can't use contacts like calendar does.

 12:13 <popey> hmm

 12:15 <DanChapman> JMulholland: I have one for you as well https://bugs.launchpad.net/dekko/+bug/1454308 can we drop the text in the multi-select menu actions and just use the icons?

 12:15 <DanChapman> :-)

 12:15 <JMulholland> taking a look

 12:16 <DanChapman> gventuri previously said it needed to stay consistent with other apps but the strings don't fit in certain locales. IMO the icons are clear enough

 12:17 <JMulholland> Hm, that doesnt seem right to me

 12:17 <JMulholland> perhaps design has moved on since then, but in the vast majority of other apps labels arent used

 12:17 <JMulholland> e.g. multi select in the contacts app: just icons, no labels

 12:18 <DanChapman> ok then so i can just drop the labels then.

 12:18 <JMulholland> so yea, I’d say dropping the labels for the multi-select menu should be fine

 12:18 <DanChapman> awesome

 12:23 <DanChapman> Sorry about that laptop overheated

 12:24 <popey> ok.

 12:25 <popey> So anything else that's blocking you or you need help with DanChapman ?

 12:26 <DanChapman> I'd like to get started on figuring out message threading. I feel the current UX design is a little weird in how it opens a new view to display the items in the thread and then tap again to open and individual message. It just seems a bit weird with the extra msg list step

 12:27 <popey> Is that a commonly requested feature?

 12:28 <DanChapman> I've had quite a few now yeah.

 12:29 <DanChapman> threads, pgp/gpg/smime & notifications are the 3 top ones I hear

 12:30 <JMulholland> we’ve actually been asked to take a look at the old Dekko Specs as part of the covergence design effort here at the office Dan

 12:30 <JMulholland> Both myself and a visual designer (Jouni)

 12:31 <DanChapman> Ok cool, i'll leave that in your hands then :-D

 12:31 <JMulholland> I’ll put that item on the list foe things we should look to helping you improve with design support

 12:31 <DanChapman> Thanks!

 12:32 <DanChapman> popey: forgot to say I have no blockers

 12:32 <popey> Ok.

 12:32 <JMulholland> np, Jouni and I will be doing a kickoff meeting to dicuss it tomorrow and I’ll get you invited in on any new material we start working on

 12:33 <DanChapman> excellent, look forward to it.

 12:33 <JMulholland> fundamentaly we’re going to change little of all the good stuff already in there, just a funtional UX refresg up and visual refreh (as far as I know at this stage)

 12:33 <JMulholland> *refresh

 12:33 <JMulholland> with a mind to a convergent client

 12:34 <popey> Excellent.

 12:34 <DanChapman> \o/

 12:34 <JMulholland> :D

 12:34 <faenil> :)

 12:35 <DanChapman> Shall we wrap up for this week then? i'll just keep knocking down the backlog

 12:35 <popey> Ok, anything else?

 12:35 <DanChapman> not for me

 12:36 <popey> \o/

 12:36 <popey> thanks guys

 12:36 <popey> #endmeeting



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