== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-touch-meeting: ubuntu touch music app meeting, 19 Jul at 19:02 — 19:35 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-touch-meeting/2013/ubuntu-touch-meeting.2013-07-19-19.02.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

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== Vote results ==




== Action items ==

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== People present (lines said) ==

 * popey (75)
 * vthompson (47)
 * danielholm (41)
 * ahayzen (33)
 * mhall119 (9)
 * davmor2 (5)
 * meetingology (3)



== Full Log ==


 19:02 <popey> #startmeeting ubuntu touch music app meeting

 19:02 <meetingology> Meeting started Fri Jul 19 19:02:23 2013 UTC.  The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

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 19:02 <popey> hey danielholm ahayzen iBelieve and vthompson

 19:02 <popey> hows everyone doing?

 19:02 <danielholm> Hi all

 19:02 <popey> blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-commons/+spec/initial-music-development

 19:02 <danielholm> pretty good. and you?

 19:02 <popey> bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=0

 19:02 <popey> hot ☻

 19:02 <ahayzen> gd thx u?

 19:02 <popey> reviews: https://code.launchpad.net/~music-app-dev/+activereviews

 19:03 <vthompson> Hello all you marvelous people!

 19:03 <popey> burndown: http://status.ubuntu.com/coreapps-13.10/

 19:03 <popey> ok, lets start with the burndown

 19:03 <popey> we've reached the end of month-3

 19:03 <popey> so a section needs to be made for month-4

 19:03 <popey> new milestone, mid august

 19:03 <popey> can someone bump tasks to month-4 which aren't DONE?

 19:04 <danielholm> I can take on some of them

 19:04 <danielholm> those that I have some grasp on.

 19:04 <popey> great, people need to take ownership of them too, but initially I just meant move them around so it's accurate ☻

 19:04 <vthompson> We're talking about the blueprint right?

 19:04 <popey> ya!

 19:05 <danielholm> alright

 19:05 <popey> cool

 19:05 <danielholm> I can do it

 19:06 <vthompson> So in month 4 we should do full playlist and queue playing

 19:06 <popey> secondly (I should have said first) loving the progress you guys are making!

 19:06 <popey> especially with the UI

 19:06 <popey> that would rock vthompson

 19:06 <danielholm> I agree

 19:06 <ahayzen> tht would be gd :)

 19:06 <vthompson> danielholm, was working playlists and ahayzen was working the queue

 19:07 <vthompson> they'll want to collaborate a bit since there is some overlap

 19:07 <danielholm> agreed

 19:07 <ahayzen> yep, will we have designs for the play queue is to be implemented?

 19:07 <vthompson> I'll flush out the Album view this month

 19:08 <danielholm> ahayzen: I think we just get it to work right now. so all the backend stuff works.

 19:08 <vthompson> I think Daniel will turn the Playlists tab into another pagestack similar to the Artists tab

 19:08 <popey> I think Lisette was busy doing RSS stuff at the start of the week. You've not had any music design work from her yet have you?

 19:08 <vthompson> popey, nope

 19:08 <danielholm> vthompson: I already have. And the Queue is moved into that pagestack. hasn't been merged yet, tough.

 19:08 <vthompson> I suggested to Lucas that he get in touch with her

 19:09 <popey> ok, hopefully next week

 19:09 <popey> good idea

 19:09 <popey> Lucas is on _fire_ at the moment!

 19:09 <vthompson> danielholm, that's right I was just looking at that branch *slaps forehead*

 19:09 <popey> did you see his Stock Ticker designs?

 19:09 <danielholm> he really is!

 19:09 <ahayzen> popey, they were awesome :)

 19:09 <vthompson> It is good stuff, but I want him to work with the design team since I assume they also know good UI engineering

 19:10 <danielholm> vthompson: haha, it's alright. But I'm having some issues getting Music to work (getting segfaul) si I have to resolve that first, before I can finish it off.

 19:10 <popey> So taking a look at the dogfooding page... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/Dogfooding#Music

 19:10 <popey> Do we think we're in shape to deliver that all by the end of July?

 19:10 <danielholm> we should update that page

 19:10 <danielholm> yes

 19:11 <vthompson> I think the last two won't get done

 19:11 <ahayzen> wht was the state of playing while app isn't focussed?

 19:11 <danielholm> I think so

 19:11 <danielholm> it plays on my device when I do whatever on it

 19:11 <ahayzen> yh i would agree with that

 19:11 <vthompson> ahayzen, no status. We can support that but we won't be implementing it

 19:11 <popey> well we know background playing is somewhat out of your control

 19:11 <popey> thats fine

 19:11 <popey> and the last item was a bonus anyway

 19:11 <popey> I'd rather we were 100% about the other features than bother with the bonus

 19:12 <danielholm> agreed

 19:12 <popey> that was added in case you guys got all ahead of yourselves and had some time to spare ☻

 19:12 <danielholm> I've paused the last.fm stuff at the moment :P

 19:12 <vthompson> I think it's paramount that we make sure we get the cores and whatnot figured out

 19:12 <danielholm> wanted to get it into the image first

 19:12 <popey> good call danielholm

 19:13 <popey> looking at the bugs... https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bugs?orderby=status&start=0

 19:13 <vthompson> If we do get design work from the team we'll want to try to integrate that as soon as possible (possibly month 4), because the more development we do on stuff that might get thrown away is a waste

 19:13 <popey> looks like you have that mostly under control..

 19:13 <popey> agreed vthompson

 19:14 <danielholm> so it is basicly the album tab that has to be done, which vthompson will take car off?

 19:14 <ahayzen> vthompson, agreed

 19:14 <vthompson> danielholm, yep I will

 19:14 <danielholm> thats great

 19:15 <vthompson> popey, I'm going to cruise through getting the remaining autopilot tests made this week

 19:15 <vthompson> (hopefully)

 19:15 <popey> sweet!

 19:15 <danielholm> vthompson: lovely. those are really the majority of the bugs

 19:15 <popey> Speaking of this week, I think I may have mentioned this already (I say it in every meeting so forgive me)..

 19:16 <vthompson> So you guys all run this on a device, is all the cover art too small?

 19:16 <popey> I'm off to OSCON next week, and dpm is on vacation, so mhall119 will be around

 19:16 <popey> he's based in florida so afternoon/evening times he'll be around for you europeans

 19:16 <danielholm> alright

 19:16 <vthompson> popey, sounds good

 19:16 <ahayzen> popey, np

 19:16 <popey> I'll be showing off your awesome work on the ubuntu community stand!

 19:16 <danielholm> vthompson: the cover in the footer is, yes.

 19:16 <ahayzen> :D

 19:17 <vthompson> dpm, has been a bug triaging machine--we'll miss him :)

 19:17 <popey> yeah, he's really on the case

 19:17 <danielholm> popey: wow, that's really cool

 19:17 <vthompson> danielholm, how about the now playing page?

 19:17 <danielholm> vthompson: looks awesome there ;)

 19:17 <popey> if you need someone to reproduce bugs, mhall119 now has a phone which has audio support

 19:17 <popey> previously he only had a nexus 7 which has broken audio

 19:17 <danielholm> popey: lovley

 19:17 <popey> so he can help confirm bugs for you too

 19:17 <davmor2> you can ping me too

 19:18 <popey> ooh yes, davmor2 has a Galaxy Nexus, good to check with him!

 19:18 <popey> he's a QA guy so is very very good at breaking things!

 19:18 <ahayzen> davmor2, thanks :)

 19:18 <danielholm> haha, alright

 19:18 <vthompson> all, is the cover art on the now playing view also smaller than on the desktop?

 19:18 <popey> and davmor2 is on UK time, so can be found during the european day

 19:19 <davmor2> well 11:00am bst onwards

 19:19 <danielholm> great!

 19:19 <ahayzen> perfect :)

 19:19 <popey> davmor2 has a problem in that he is addicted to 80's cheesy music, if you can add a patch in to the app to restrict his playing of those songs, even better ㋛

 19:19 <vthompson> I'm asking because I have a feeling that the way we  retrieve the cover art only allows us to display it in a certain number of pixels--which makes it small on the devices.

 19:20 <popey> vthompson: it does look small, yes

 19:20 <popey> I'll get a screenshot after the meeting

 19:20 <vthompson> popey, so I think we should try to fix that. Does it look bad?

 19:20 <ahayzen> vthompson, can we not get it to scale to gu units?

 19:20 <davmor2> popey: you say that and our last.fm compatibility is high that would mean you listen to a lot of the very same 80's cheesy music :P

 19:20 <danielholm> popey: we'll take look ;)

 19:21 <popey> davmor2: rumbled

 19:21 <vthompson> ahayzen, I do not believe so... I'll look further though

 19:21 <popey> let me get a screengrab now

 19:21 <danielholm> davmor2: same here, actually..

 19:22 <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-07-19-202221.png

 19:22 <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-07-19-202212.png

 19:22 <davmor2> I'll add some music to my phone over the weekend and see what damage I can do to the music app :)

 19:22 <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-07-19-202204.png

 19:22 <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-07-19-202155.png

 19:22 <popey> thats what it looks like on my nexus 4

 19:22 <ahayzen> popey, thanks

 19:23 <danielholm> davmor2: sounds good ;(

 19:23 <danielholm> ;) *

 19:23 <popey> ok, any other questions / issues?

 19:23 <vthompson> popey, can you get one from after clicking on the bottom left icon?

 19:23 <ahayzen> vthompson, the icon doens't even have a width set?

 19:23 <vthompson> that's the now playing page

 19:23 <vthompson> ahayzen, IIRC it just has a source

 19:24 <ahayzen> vthompson, yep

 19:24 <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-07-19-202354.png

 19:24 <popey> I didnt know that screen existed ☻

 19:24 <ahayzen> popey, why don't we appear here http://status.ubuntu.com/coreapps-13.10/teams.html

 19:24 <vthompson> Could you get one with actual cover art?

 19:24 <popey> ya

 19:24 <popey> how do i go back?

 19:24 <popey> oh, tap

 19:24 <danielholm> should we make the whole footer clickable to show the now playing page? I'm having problems hitting the cover art

 19:25 <ahayzen> danielholm, probably best

 19:25 <vthompson> danielholm, I'd like it if we made it draggable upward

 19:25 <vthompson> gestures FTW

 19:25 <ahayzen> vthompson, tht would be nice

 19:25 <popey> ah crud

 19:25 <danielholm> vthompson: that would be really nice. but only if it doesn't mess upp the hud or the toolbar

 19:25 <popey> the music with artwork segfaults it

 19:26 <mhall119> fwiw, here's it running on my N4 http://ubuntuone.com/6cBA0eW9DTM4ESOHHOWdLF

 19:26 <vthompson> mhall119, can you get a screen cap with actual cover art?

 19:27 <davmor2> danielholm, popey: looks like mhall119 is along with us for the 80's ride :)

 19:27 <ahayzen> vthompson, the pre/play/next are tiny in mhall119 's screenshot

 19:27 <danielholm> davmor2: couldn't be better ;)

 19:27 <vthompson> ahayzen, I see that, it's good to know. I assume you're running trunk, mhall119 ?

 19:27 <popey> vthompson: will try and find one with artwork after the meeting

 19:27 <danielholm> ahayzen: they are for me as well

 19:28 <ahayzen> 'width: 50' ... not using gu units :P

 19:28 <danielholm> I'm sorry for not report all the bugs, but I'm just so focused on the code I'm making...

 19:28 <vthompson> I think we need to get these minor UI tweaks figured out this month as well

 19:29 <vthompson> ahayzen, yep, I thought I had those changed to gu(8) or so... guess not

 19:29 <ahayzen> vthompson, if we move everything to units rather than pixels it'll fix most of them right?

 19:29 <vthompson> ahayzen, yep

 19:29 <mhall119> vthompson: I'm updating from the PPA, so pretty close to trunk

 19:30 <ahayzen> vthompson, i can go through and convert them if required

 19:30 <popey> danielholm: not a problem

 19:30 <vthompson> ahayzen, continue your work with playlists--I think that's more important

 19:30 <ahayzen> vthompson, ok :)

 19:30 <vthompson> I'll tackle the UI stuff after I finish AP tests

 19:30 <danielholm> vthompson: :)

 19:30 <mhall119> vthompson: ahayzen: with cover art http://ubuntuone.com/6Ed9FHMig0DYFiSeQpMgRO

 19:31 <vthompson> mhall119, yeesh

 19:31 <ahayzen> mhall119, guess tht is a low resolution album art image?

 19:31 <ahayzen> but it is being scaled correctly :)

 19:31 <vthompson> ahayzen, nope that should be the larger one.

 19:31 <danielholm> vthompson: I really liked your idea about having the Queue in the playlist tab. I'm almost done with it. just merge issues and segfault

 19:32 <vthompson> ahayzen, that's because it actually is scaled to grid units...

 19:32 <ahayzen> vthompson, i mean it is all pixelated

 19:32 <ahayzen> vthompson, yeah tht is set to units.gu(40)

 19:32 <mhall119> the purpose at the top seems to be the standard Header component, just without any text and being displayed over the content for some reason

 19:32 <ahayzen> vthompson, sortta proves scaling works ;)

 19:32 <mhall119> s/purpose/purple/

 19:33 <vthompson> mhall119, yea, I think I was trying to set it to not be visible, but some pieces do not disappear all the time

 19:33 <vthompson> ahayzen, very true.

 19:33 <ahayzen> mhall119, yh i've seen tht from time to time

 19:34 <mhall119> still, I'm unreasonably happy that I can play music on my Ubuntu device now :)

 19:34 <ahayzen> mhall119, i think it is better in the latest branch though

 19:34 <vthompson> There seem to be a few issues with the headers that are causing the apps to have issues

 19:34 <danielholm> I have to go, guys. Take Care!

 19:34 <popey> thanks danielholm !

 19:34 <popey> have a great weekend

 19:34 <mhall119> vthompson: are those being reported as bugs against ubuntu-ui-toolkit project?

 19:34 <ahayzen> danielholm, thanks bye

 19:34 <vthompson> danielholm, take care~

 19:34 <popey> We are over time..

 19:34 <mhall119> thanks danielholm

 19:34 <popey> Shall we wrap up and move discussion over to -app-devel ?

 19:34 <ahayzen> popey, sounds gd

 19:35 <mhall119> vthompson: please report any bugs you find in the SDK components, and we'll annoy the SDK developers until they fix them :)

 19:35 <vthompson> I know the clipping one is.  And I think the filemanager people have a bug against the start of where the listview starts (and ends?)

 19:35 <ahayzen> popey, i've got loads of random questions probably best to ask there?

 19:35 <popey> Thanks for all your hard work guys.

 19:35 <popey> yeah

 19:35 <popey> we're both still around

 19:35 <popey> #endmeeting



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