#title #ubuntu-touch-meeting: Doc Viewer

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== Meeting summary ==

''LINK:'' https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-commons/+spec/initial-docviewer-development   (popey, 19:39:50)
''LINK:'' https://code.launchpad.net/~chocanto/ubuntu-docviewer-app/imageComponent/+merge/160951   (mhall119, 19:49:56)



Meeting ended at 20:13:34 UTC.



== Votes ==




== Action items ==

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== People present (lines said) ==

 * mhall119 (65)
 * Oranger (44)
 * popey (20)
 * meetingology (3)



== Full Log ==


 19:39:26 <mhall119> #startmeeting Doc Viewer

 19:39:26 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Apr 25 19:39:26 2013 UTC.  The chair is mhall119. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

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 19:39:34 <mhall119> Oranger: so are we, the last one ran over

 19:39:49 <popey> blueprint:-

 19:39:50 <popey> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-commons/+spec/initial-docviewer-development

 19:39:57 <popey> review: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-docviewer-dev/ubuntu-docviewer-app/trunk/+activereviews

 19:40:02 <popey> bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-docviewer-app

 19:40:38 <mhall119> so first off, thank you Oranger for bring this project back to life, the progress you've made has been amazing

 19:40:56 <Oranger> Thank to you for your help ! ;)

 19:41:53 <mhall119> first things first, I wanted to give you an update on what the SDK team is going to be doing in terms of reading CLI args

 19:42:28 <mhall119> the plan, as I've heard it, is to build this into the Ubuntu components, either an existing one like MainView, or a new one

 19:42:44 <mhall119> same for reading in content from files

 19:42:57 <mhall119> Kaleo is going to be working on that

 19:43:17 <mhall119> actually, let me see if he's available...

 19:43:33 <Oranger> mhall119: Sound very good to me !

 19:43:54 <popey> unlikely mhall119, uk time 20:43

 19:44:06 <mhall119> says the guy on UK time who's here anyway

 19:44:12 <popey> oh yeah

 19:44:38 <mhall119> alright, I'll get him in touch with you, so he knows what your needs are, and to see what work you've already gotten done

 19:44:57 <mhall119> alright, on to the blueprint

 19:45:03 <Oranger> the less we will use C++ plugins in this project, better it will be

 19:45:11 <mhall119> agreed

 19:45:20 <mhall119> popey: Oranger: can you both see http://pad.ubuntu.com/4hydJSJELt

 19:45:57 <popey> it's a url, yes.

 19:46:05 <mhall119> :P

 19:46:12 <popey> ☻

 19:46:45 <Oranger> "Either you have not been granted access to this resource or your entitlement has timed out" :(

 19:46:52 <mhall119> ah, give me one minute

 19:47:10 <Oranger> there are some secrets you don't want me to see ? :p

 19:47:15 <popey> what's your launchpad ID?

 19:47:20 <mhall119> Oranger: try it now

 19:47:22 <Oranger> chocanto

 19:47:29 <mhall119> popey: already added him

 19:47:51 <Oranger> yes it work

 19:47:53 <popey> k

 19:47:54 <mhall119> cool

 19:48:26 <mhall119> so, Oranger knocking out all of -month-0's work items

 19:48:49 <mhall119> and most of -month-1 :)

 19:49:02 <Oranger> wow, i need to be less fast

 19:49:06 <mhall119> and one work item for me

 19:49:09 <mhall119> Oranger: never!

 19:49:17 <mhall119> there is *always* more work to do

 19:49:24 <Oranger> ahah, I hope ;)

 19:49:48 <mhall119> oh, I did have one thing that needs to be fixed on your MP for adding image support

 19:49:56 <mhall119> https://code.launchpad.net/~chocanto/ubuntu-docviewer-app/imageComponent/+merge/160951

 19:49:56 <Oranger> actually it can display PNG, JPG, BMP, SVG, ICO, TIFF

 19:50:33 <Oranger> oh yes, i didn't see that

 19:50:49 <Oranger> i fix it quickly

 19:50:58 <mhall119> yeah, so since it's building binaries it needs to be "any" so it will build separate packages for i386, armhf, etc

 19:51:01 <mhall119> thanks

 19:51:27 <Oranger> yes I didn't think about that..

 19:51:50 <mhall119> ok, so what's next?

 19:52:00 <mhall119> Oranger: is there work still you think needs to be done on txt or image support?

 19:52:53 <Oranger> Done.

 19:53:14 <Oranger> mhall119: As I said you, we can add the zoom support

 19:54:04 <Oranger> mhall119: But I need to see with the ubuntu-components team if they add a way to zoom with gestures

 19:54:16 <mhall119> yeah, that would be good, can we give you a work item to investigate that?

 19:54:29 <Oranger> mhall119: Yes of course :)

 19:54:57 <mhall119> cool

 19:55:09 <Oranger> mhall119: For the text component I don't know

 19:55:20 <mhall119> popey: who was going to look into using Calligra stuff for office docs?

 19:55:21 <Oranger> mhall119: We can always add new features

 19:55:30 <popey> hmm

 19:56:05 <popey> not sure, give it to me and I'll look at it

 19:56:19 <mhall119> ok

 19:57:14 <mhall119> ok, let's go with this list for now

 19:57:27 <Oranger> mhall119: For pdf, I heard something about MuPDF ?

 19:57:29 <popey> thanks mhall119

 19:57:33 <mhall119> since you also may be working with Kaleo to re-implement your file stuff in the Ubuntu components

 19:57:48 <mhall119> Oranger: yeah, we still need to get a +1 on using MuPDF over Poppler

 19:58:07 <mhall119> I'll split those work items and mark the PDF ones as blocked

 19:58:30 <Oranger> mhall119: Ok, because it will be a lot of work and to me for an app like "docviewer", display PDF is the most important component

 19:59:09 <Oranger> (wow, is my sentence understandable ? ^^ )

 19:59:31 <mhall119> Oranger: well if it's MuPDF, they may have QML components to make it easy for you

 19:59:35 <mhall119> if it's Poppler.....I don't know

 20:00:11 <Oranger> mhall119: What are differences between those two libraries ?

 20:00:48 <mhall119> Oranger: Poppler is used on the desktop, is extensively tested for both quality and security, but uses Cairo and maybe other Gnome technologies

 20:01:16 <mhall119> MuPDF is small and fast, has Qt support already (I think), but no public test suite and hasn't been audited by our security team

 20:01:29 <Oranger> Ok, I see

 20:01:37 <mhall119> so, pros and cons to both

 20:02:01 <Oranger> for both there is a lot of work to do

 20:02:07 <mhall119> we should have a definite answer next week though, because popey can corner people into a room and not let them out without an answer :)

 20:02:15 <popey> heh

 20:02:17 <popey> this is true

 20:02:33 <mhall119> alright, anything else before we wrap up?

 20:02:35 <Oranger> ahah, I didn't think popey is this dangerous !

 20:02:47 <mhall119> he has (had) dangerous sideburns

 20:03:21 <Oranger> I think not, so curently I'm the single one who is working on this app ?

 20:03:22 <mhall119> also he's British

 20:03:26 <mhall119> they sound charming, but beware

 20:03:30 <Oranger> with popey and meetingology

 20:03:34 <Oranger> *mh

 20:03:39 <Oranger> * mhall119

 20:03:42 <mhall119> Oranger: currently yes, I'm still trying to recruit more folks

 20:03:50 <mhall119> will be blogging about it soon

 20:04:07 <Oranger> mhall119: And and last one question

 20:04:12 <mhall119> sure

 20:04:44 <Oranger> We can now display images with docviewer, but in Ubuntu-touch, images will not be displayed by default by the Galery ?

 20:05:07 <mhall119> not all of them, I wouldn't think

 20:05:17 <mhall119> I have images on my laptop that I don't want in Shotwell

 20:05:49 <Oranger> ok I see

 20:05:55 <mhall119> I imagine the gallery to be more for photo-management

 20:06:04 <mhall119> so pictures of the family

 20:06:13 <Oranger> mhall119: Yes, that could be the best use :)

 20:06:18 <mhall119> but not my lol-cats

 20:06:21 <Oranger> last thing (again)

 20:06:26 <mhall119> I mean, my serious pictures of serious things

 20:06:51 <Oranger> here is a mockup of docviewer https://ubuntu.mybalsamiq.com/projects/ubuntuphonecoreapps/Document_viewer_step1.0.list

 20:07:25 <popey> that looks more like a file navigator

 20:07:30 <mhall119> that actually looks like it should be for the file manager app

 20:08:04 <mhall119> which we have, and which largely works, and we should be able to use it to find files and have them open in the doc viewer

 20:08:45 <mhall119> actually, let me take a work item to figure out how to get the two talking together

 20:09:11 <Oranger> ok good, and if the docviewer is launched without a filename in the command line ?

 20:09:51 <mhall119> also a good question....I don't know

 20:09:57 <Oranger> ubuntu components do not have a dialog for select a file, right ?

 20:10:10 <Oranger> it be really usefull for a lot of app I think

 20:10:13 <Oranger> *could

 20:10:23 <Oranger> and for docviewer so

 20:10:38 <popey> yes they're working on the content picker workflow at the moment

 20:10:41 <popey> its not finished

 20:10:43 <mhall119> no, the SDK doesn't have anything to do that yet, and for security purpose it probably won't

 20:10:58 <Oranger> ah, two informations ^^

 20:11:15 <popey> saying the same thing ☻

 20:11:25 <popey> no, we don't have it, yes we're working on it :0

 20:11:27 <mhall119> so the security team is going to provide a content picker, which will be similar to but not exactly like a file picker

 20:11:53 <mhall119> and will hve extra stuff in it to let an app access files it wouldn't normally be allowed to access, but only after the user is informed and agrees to allow it

 20:11:56 <Oranger> Oh ok I see

 20:12:45 <Oranger> because we could use it when the docviewer is launched without any documents to display

 20:13:30 <mhall119> ok, we should wrap up and see if the filemanager guys are around

 20:13:34 <mhall119> #endmeeting



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