15:30 #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status 15:30 Meeting started at 15:30:00 UTC. The chair is cpaelzer. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology 15:30 Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick 15:30 Ping for MIR meeting - didrocks joalif slyon sarnold cpaelzer jamespage ( eslerm dviererbe ) 15:30 good morning 15:31 o/ 15:31 o/ 15:32 hidiho, let's go 15:32 #topic current component mismatches 15:32 Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams 15:32 #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg 15:32 #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg 15:32 plucky-release looks fine 15:32 jemallox goes on, notihng new on jpeg-xl yet 15:32 the python things around openstack slowly become MIRs to review (one is in unapproved now) 15:32 that is it 15:33 no action from component mismatches this time AFAICS 15:33 quiet .. must be december 15:33 it is 15:33 #topic New MIRs 15:33 Mission: ensure to assign all incoming reviews for fast processing 15:33 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir 15:33 empty 15:33 o/ 15:33 #topic Incomplete bugs / questions 15:33 Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams 15:33 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir 15:34 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnupg2/+bug/2089690 is resolved for now, now new updates since 15:34 and one that might become a MIR 15:34 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-legacy-cgi/+bug/2089244 15:34 but then it likely is a fast-path as the code was in main if I read doko's comment right 15:34 still, as long as it is in TBC I'd hold back our action 15:35 #topic Process/Documentation improvements 15:35 Mission: Review pending process/documentation pull-requests or issues 15:35 #link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pulls 15:35 #link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/issues 15:35 and some amount of "why was it dropped, and will it have upstream support" feels worth fleshing out 15:35 sarnold: sure, but let us see if foundations even wants to keep it 15:35 sarnold: often enough those are not even needed to be kept 15:35 \o/ 15:35 sarnold: we haven't seen it in mismatches 8yet) 15:36 wow 15:36 sarnold: - just in time - 1 minute ago :-) 15:36 https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pull/73 15:36 :D 15:36 makes sense, even though I'll miss him 15:36 he's not even on the channel so he won't see it :-) 15:36 but sure, it make sense to clean up 15:36 oh ;) ha 15:37 merging ... 15:37 #topic MIR related Security Review Queue 15:37 Mission: Check on progress, do deadlines seem doable? 15:37 Some clients can only work with one, some with the other escaping - the URLs point to the same place. 15:37 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=%5BMIR%5D&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir 15:37 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=[MIR]&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir 15:37 Internal link 15:37 - ensure your teams items are prioritized among each other as you'd expect 15:37 - ensure community requests do not get stomped by teams calling for favors too much 15:37 #link https://warthogs.atlassian.net/jira/software/c/projects/SEC/boards/594 15:37 you said you have not been fully back to speed last time 15:38 any improvement for you or those you are pushing to help you for those reviews sarnold? 15:38 I believe I have found a volunteer for jpeg-xl, and exfatprogs will likely have progress soon 15:39 my own portion of improving our onboarding process has had no progress 15:39 both good 15:39 provd/libimobiledevice-glue in the queue? 15:39 or can you only look at them once the others are out= 15:39 ? 15:39 three day weeks look even shorter when there's interviews in the mix, too :/ 15:39 we all know the same, I understand 15:40 do we need to do something about lenovo-wwan-unlock (in review) by eslerm? 15:40 there's nothing hard preventing them from being started yet, just no 'interest' yet. I might need to resort to prodding rather than poking. 15:40 since you said he looks at other things now? 15:41 oh, hmm. I added a comment to that bug a month ago with a lot of feedback and had no reply .. 15:42 indeed 15:42 and it is incomplete 15:42 but maybe put your name on it int he jira tracking? 15:42 yeah 15:42 going on 15:42 #topic Any other business? 15:42 I have one, which is a soft touch on re-reviews 15:42 We sometimes get them served on a silver plate 15:42 nothign from my side 15:43 e..g when source renames make it pop up again 15:43 we usually do, and that is fair to not hold up people, kind of quick-look / fast-path them as the code was in main before 15:43 But I wondered about the following case: 15:44 "If the code in main is so long in main that there isn't any historical MIR record" => should we do a review 15:44 maybe with none except extreme misses being "required", but I'd love to ahve the chance to "recommend" some 15:45 I like the idea 15:45 WDYT - should we try to do that "not so fast" fast path if there is no audit trail as it is in main forever? 15:45 then at least one could check when it was last evaluated 15:45 and by making all "recommended" we'd stay pragmatic and not hold up teams that do transitions 15:45 Yes, I like that, too. It would probably catch quite a few misses. 15:45 slyon: jamespage: WDYT - if you are +1 I can file a PR for a rule change in that regard 15:46 we have significantly raised the bar on our expectations for MIRs over time, we might prefer to say "more than ten years ago" or something similar, just to keep sliding this window ever forward, too 15:46 yes slyon, I mostly think of things we added due to painful lessons learned 15:46 ok, I hear +1 all around 15:46 let me file an issue for it 15:46 I like sarnold's sliding window idea. 15:46 otherwise this would only be a one-off thing.. 15:46 yes, but a bit softer for now 15:46 it is a window from "since we track it" to "now" 15:47 I figure it comes up pretty infrequently, i'm not sure there'd be a big workload difference to either one, heh 15:47 but it can be a demo for how a sliding window could look 15:47 I think that makes sense 15:47 right. That should give use quite some backlog, already. But then we need to change the rules again a few years down the road (which is fine9 15:49 filed https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/issues/74 for it 15:49 no other topics from me 15:50 cpaelzer: this rough outline is missing the "trigger" -- source renames, anything else? 15:50 well, maybe "any requests" is the trigger .. 15:51 added 15:51 web 2.0 isn't all bad :) heh 15:51 hehe 15:51 ok closing then 15:51 anything else? 15:52 thanks cpaelzer, all! 15:52 uh I can't remember when exactly I'm off 15:52 you'll notice then sarnold :-) 15:52 11 15:52 10 15:52 01 15:52 out 15:52 :D 15:52 #endmeeting