15:30 #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status 15:30 Meeting started at 15:30:40 UTC. The chair is cpaelzer. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology 15:30 Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick 15:31 #topic Review of previous action items 15:31 good morning 15:31 My action is to excuse myself being suddenly missing, but I was rather sick all of last week 15:31 Ihope you were able to cover over that just fine 15:31 if there were any real actions from last week let me know 15:31 other than that we will give everyone a minute to realize it is meeting-time 15:31 re-ping jamespage ddstreet doko didrocks 15:32 and hi sarnold 15:32 cpaelzer: alas there were only two of us last week, so nothing happened 15:32 cpaelzer: I hope you're feeling better 15:32 o/ sorry 15:33 hey 15:33 i have dual mtgs at this time each week, so i have to split my attention :) 15:33 your 50% is often good enough 15:34 as long as you can say yes to assigned tasks :-) 15:34 ok let us get started here 15:34 hoping to be more than the three of us :-) 15:34 #topic current component mismatches 15:34 #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg 15:35 we will nsee needrestart later anyway 15:35 (4 of us?) 15:35 oh you have the same color as sarnold has for me - sure 4 15:35 and hi didrocks 15:35 o/ 15:35 the real new content in mismatches are 15:35 a) gnome-control-center -> power-profiles-daemon 15:36 that sounds desktoppy - any opinion didrocks ? 15:36 I can handle it, I did the NEW review already with MIR review mind 15:36 I’ll ask seb to file it 15:36 and b) libnotify (which according to http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/m-r-package-team-mapping.html also is desktop) 15:36 o/ 15:36 which depends on mor 15:37 -> sugar -> sugar-toolkit-gtk3 and python-gwebsockets 15:37 websockets sounds like an intense security review ... 15:37 it's just a recommends 15:37 didrocks: would you mind carrying that to the team for evaluation as well? 15:37 (actually, forgot we did the MIR already, just seb didn’t subcribe us) 15:37 I’ll look at it, but yeah, sounds big 15:38 doko: which of the cases did you mean for "only a recommends" ? 15:38 and still it needs to be sorted out, but it might be one of the simple "demote to suggests" cases 15:38 yep, hoping that will work out functionally 15:38 looking at the same in propoposed 15:38 #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg 15:39 it is 3 weeks with abseil in this state now 15:39 do we need to do anything about https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=981269 ? 15:39 Debian bug 981269 in mozc "Use the shared abseil library which isn't ABI stable" [Normal,Open] 15:40 for libbsd -> libmd - this one is on security atm. I know @sarnold you must be rather busy, but I guess libbsd is non debatable 15:40 I asked multiple times about it and seb is tracking it, I think we let him proposing what to do 15:40 therefore is there someone assigned to libmd from seucrity already ? 15:40 ok didrocks for abseil 15:41 cpaelzer: no, no one's assigned to review libmd, afaik we haven't discussed it further since you raised it recently 15:42 IMHO @sarnold if you tihnk you can't make it happen you need to raise it with mclemenceau for emergency alternatives 15:42 I'll leave it with you sarnold (not to do it, but to sort out an assignment and ETA to let mclemenceau know then) - ok ? 15:43 thanks cpaelzer 15:43 cpaelzer: ack, thanks 15:44 cpaelzer, didrocks: libnotify recommends sugar 15:44 thanks doko 15:44 the last one I see here is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libdeflate/+bug/1908502 15:44 Launchpad bug 1908502 in libdeflate (Ubuntu Hirsute) "[MIR] libdeflate" [Undecided,In progress] 15:44 that seemed mostly ready and is in the hands of seb128 and didrocks 15:45 I expect this is gone from mismatches next week didrocks, do you agree ? 15:45 doko: merge error apparently, will be fixed 15:45 thanks 15:45 ok, nothing else in mismatches AFAICS 15:45 #topic New MIRs 15:45 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir 15:46 didrocks: yeah, I can understand that you don't want to have a delta. but keeping that in the current state in -proposed isn't helpful either 15:46 cpaelzer: well, I can ask again 15:46 ah, xnox just fiddled with the settings on nftables, no actual state change there 15:46 doko: can you tell that to the uploader and not me? 15:47 yeah sarnold, but we still need to make suerr in whicih field the ball is atm 15:47 seems like all actions I have here are pending on other individual and not me, while I got asked for it… 15:47 sarnold: on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nftables/+bug/1887187 15:47 Launchpad bug 1887187 in nftables (Ubuntu) "[MIR] nftables" [Critical,New] 15:48 let me try to summarize 15:48 1. opened by rbalint 15:48 didrocks: so that would be gunnarhj? is he community? 15:48 doko: he is 15:48 2. but then punted to security to complete/drive this (the filing not the review) 15:48 => https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nftables/+bug/1887187/comments/4 15:49 3. to reflect that we have assigned it to you in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nftables/+bug/1887187/comments/8 15:49 Launchpad bug 1887187 in nftables (Ubuntu) "[MIR] nftables" [Critical,New] 15:49 and now xnox fail-read this as waiting for review and did https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nftables/+bug/1887187/comments/9 15:49 didrocks: I can, but anybody else can do as well ;p 15:49 but it wasn't waiting for review, it was waiting for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nftables/+bug/1887187/comments/4 to happe 15:49 doko: I told this is a merge error and we will handle it 15:50 ok, thanks 15:50 doko: didrocks: thanks for sorting out that other case in parallel - It seems this will go fine and all is clear 15:50 sarnold: are you (or any other security member) follow up on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nftables/+bug/1887187/comments/4 15:50 Launchpad bug 1887187 in nftables (Ubuntu) "[MIR] nftables" [Critical,New] 15:50 to quote "... I think the MIR preparations will be done by the Security Team, who will own nftables itself, too." 15:51 cpaelzer: I can re-raise it at our next team meeting, but given $everything I can't imagine it'll be a priority for the team to push on this 15:51 @deflate, I forwarded the comments to Debian, I'm unsure those issues should block the MIR, one is about a patch description being inacurrate, the other one about optimisation profile warnings that don't seem to have an impact 15:52 ok sarnold, I'll update the bug accordingly and re-assign it to you for doing that 15:52 cpaelzer: cool, thanks 15:53 that should do it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nftables/+bug/1887187/comments/10 15:53 Launchpad bug 1887187 in nftables (Ubuntu) "[MIR] nftables" [Critical,New] 15:53 #topic Incomplete bugs / questions 15:53 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir 15:53 obviously https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/needrestart/+bug/1907422 15:53 Launchpad bug 1907422 in needrestart (Ubuntu) "[MIR] needrestart + dependencies" [Undecided,Incomplete] 15:53 we had plenty of MIR members doing reviews 15:54 all of them LGTM, doko also found a great "why don't you use ..." and also got it answered by now 15:54 the one task remaining is needrestart itslef atm being sorted out between ddstreet (reviewer) and sil2100 (to implement what was requested) 15:55 I think that state is good for now and we can't do more atm 15:55 thanks to all of you did your reviews! 15:55 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libayatana-appindicator/+bug/1915695 is incompleted and sorted out between didrocks and seb128 which is ok (no current todo for us) 15:55 Launchpad bug 1915695 in libayatana-appindicator (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libayatana-appindicator" [Undecided,Incomplete] 15:55 abseil we mentioned already 15:56 heh "it's a very specific fruitcake" 15:56 hehe 15:56 the last recent/interesing one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libftdi/+bug/1912371 15:56 Launchpad bug 1912371 in libftdi (Ubuntu) "[MIR] flashrom + libftdi" [Undecided,Incomplete] 15:56 doko: this went back to mclemenceau to opt-in to drive this further (or reject) 15:57 could you ask him next time you speak with him so that it doesn't stay stuck in this state? 15:57 ok, I'll chase that down 15:57 thanks 15:57 #topic Any other business? 15:57 what did I miss ? 15:57 ... nothing from me 15:58 on libdeflate: the last blocker is the weird patch description, but what concerns me more is reflected by seb128 with what was raised in the debian bug report: "Removing the patch the package still builds fine, is the change still needed? What problem does it resolve exactly?", like we have a patch workarounding a failing test and we don’t have any idea if this is a valid case or not… 15:58 That doesn’t sound confortable to maintain? But happy to set a ACK if this is fine to live with it for seb128 15:58 well, either we keep in sync with that one test disabled 15:58 or we add a delta to re-enable the patch 15:58 whatever MIR team decide is fine with me 15:58 it’s up to you, but we all know that if we don’t investigate now, that will not happen post-MIR 15:59 I prefer to be in sync if possible and the Debian maintainer doesn't reply 15:59 ^^ ack to didrocks 15:59 we can add the delta for now if that's the ask 15:59 yeah that would be nice seb128 15:59 alright 15:59 let me upload in a bit 15:59 that should be all then for today ... ? 15:59 sounds like it’s enough already :) 16:00 oh yeah :-) 16:00 see you all next week 16:00 #endmeeting