23:05 #startmeeting Ubuntu Community Council Meeting 23:05 Meeting started at 23:05:59 UTC. The chair is nhaines. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology 23:05 Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick 23:06 #chair Eickmeyer teward jose nhaines wxl toddy 23:06 Current chairs: Eickmeyer, jose, nhaines, teward, toddy, wxl 23:06 Welcome everyone! 23:06 There's no agenda for this meeting. It occured to me about 45 minutes ago that maybe I should've put out a call for topics on the Ubuntu Community Hub. 23:06 So that's something I promise to remember in the future! 23:07 Fortunately, we still have stuff to talk about. 23:07 #topic Old business 23:07 #subtopic Local Communities Research Committee 23:07 I have send the call for nomination for the LCRC. 23:07 The information is still here: 23:07 #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/local-communities-research-committee/20186 23:07 I know we received at least a couple interested people 23:07 The nomination will close on Saturday, January 23, 2021 at 23:59 UTC 23:07 Nominations are still open for another 3 days. 23:08 Ok, then not much action we can do there. 23:08 Just, after the nominations have closed, somoene needs to do the election. 23:08 Yes, I can do it 23:08 Great! 23:09 I will put out a blog post about it to get more traction 23:09 jose: good 23:09 #action toddy will set up the LCRC election after the nomination period. 23:09 * meetingology toddy will set up the LCRC election after the nomination period. 23:09 #action jose will promote the LCRC nominations via blog post 23:09 * meetingology jose will promote the LCRC nominations via blog post 23:10 Do we want to extend the nomination period? 23:10 a couple more weeks, I'd say 23:10 Okay. That sounds smart, since we'll be focusing more attention on it. 23:11 How's February 6th sound? That's 14 more days. 23:11 +1 23:11 yes, we can do it like this 23:12 I don't feel like this is a controversial change, and of course the LCRC is very important. We'll increase the nomination period by two weeks. 23:12 #action LCRC nomination period will be extended to February 6, 2021 23:59 UTC. 23:12 * meetingology LCRC nomination period will be extended to February 6, 2021 23:59 UTC. 23:13 +1 23:13 Does someone want to hunt down the Discourse posts and update everything? 23:13 yes, I can do it 23:13 We'll need another email, too. 23:14 toddy: You're the best. :) 23:14 oops sorry 23:14 hello wxl 23:14 #action toddy will update LCRC announcements with the new date. 23:14 * meetingology toddy will update LCRC announcements with the new date. 23:14 wxl: Glad you made it! 23:14 *suddenly a wild wxl appears* 23:14 *summons wxl, then discards them in the rubbish bin* 23:15 :P 23:15 Okay, so I think that's everything for the LCRC. 23:15 #subtopic Board/Council elections 23:15 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/communitycouncil/+bug/1903346 23:15 Launchpad bug 1903346 in Ubuntu Community Council "Review and prioritize board/council elections" [High,In progress] 23:16 how are we doing re that 23:16 wxl: Looks like you've gotten the Lubuntu team sorted out! :) 23:16 been a little swamped the past two weeks with $MajorProject that got put in my lap at $PayingJob 23:16 so keep that on the radar 23:16 well i mean i'm on the lubuntu council and one of the biggest contributors, so yeah, we're on it XD 23:16 nhaines: see above (carry over the task) 23:17 wxl: All the better thatn you're on top of things, then. :) 23:17 we just discussed the fact that we've got an election to get started on soonish 23:17 teward: Are you comfortable with the task or would you like help? 23:17 Help welcome for the other councils. But I can speak for DMB, because that was restaffed very recently (and I'm on it) 23:18 and of course wxl is Lubuntu Council so 23:18 just making sure you got it in all the noise :) 23:18 oops 23:18 nhaines: we can remove the assign to me, but we can make notes DNB was delegated to me, and Lubuntu delegated to wxl for handling 23:19 because wxl is on Lubuntu Council heh 23:19 Ha, sounds good. 23:19 beb I said "recently" for DMB but... 23:19 i know the kubuntu folks, too, so i could check in with them if need be 23:19 2020-02-25 is when I was on it, as was rafaeldtinoco 23:19 we expire 2022-05-11 23:19 so we're *really* good there 23:20 for DMB 23:20 kubuntu and lubuntu both have a pretty solid core so i doubt we're going to see tons of changes 23:20 That both sounds like good news. 23:20 are we missing any other than that? 23:20 Okay, let's see where this is by next meeting. 23:21 the two i know nothing about are irc and forums 23:21 jose: irc and forums are the only other two 23:21 and how are we with those for expiration dates 23:22 irc council, has several different expiry dataes, all this year though 23:22 I can ask Flannel about the IRC Council. 23:22 kubuntu council is good until august. they have always been very consistent. i doubt we should worry there. 23:22 with the exception of ~mellissa who expires 2021-11-29, the others expire 2021-05-31 23:22 ... except for rww who is Owner 23:22 and never expires 23:22 er, well approved 23:22 I can ask him, too. 23:22 never expires thoug h 23:23 Okay. 23:23 we should check with dax 23:23 nhaines: check with Unit193 and hggdh they're current admins on the team 23:23 also dax (aka rww) 23:23 Unit193 is unavailable this week 23:23 #action nhaines will check in with the IRC Council for the current status. 23:23 * meetingology nhaines will check in with the IRC Council for the current status. 23:24 All right. That's it for old business. 23:24 #topic New business 23:25 There's no agenda for this meeting. Is there any business to consider this meeting? 23:25 nothing that i have 23:25 I have nothing for new business, I think 23:26 yep nothing here either 23:26 Okay, well, as the year progresses things will get more exciting. :) 23:26 not for now 23:26 but I'll get some more stuff soon 23:27 I have no doubt. 23:27 #topic Other business 23:27 #info The next meeting of the Ubuntu Community Council is on Wednesday 2021-02-03 23:00 UTC 23:27 i think once we get the lc kind of sorted we can maybe start working on putting together some fresh ideas 23:27 I agree 23:28 That will be exciting, too. 23:28 Okay, so who's chairing the next meeting? :) 23:28 not it ;) 23:28 not me 23:29 jose: What about you? 23:29 can't, sorry 23:29 nhaines: maybe joe? 23:29 Now we're narrowing it down! 23:29 I'm a bit busy with work atm 23:29 lol 23:30 teward: You look like a convenient victim! 23:30 already said not me 23:30 same busy status right now 23:30 with this huge project dropped on me 23:30 Okay, maybe we'll have to draw lots. 23:31 you can do it :P 23:31 ohhhh doesn't meetingology roll dice? 23:31 again 23:31 I'll do it unless I can pawn it off on someone else before then! 23:31 nhaines: I can do it 23:31 it can yes 23:31 #dice 6 23:31 toddy: Would you mind? 23:31 Shoot, sorry I jumped out for a sec everyone. 23:31 #roll 6 23:31 we haven't asked Eickmeyer yet :) 23:31 it's eickmeyer then! 23:31 Yeah, I can't either. 23:31 So close! 23:32 nhaines: so I do it. 23:32 toddy: Thank you very much. 23:32 #action toddy chairs the next meeting. 23:32 * meetingology toddy chairs the next meeting. 23:32 thanks toddy! 23:32 i'll do the nexct one 23:33 We have a head start on next meeting then! \o/ 23:33 Okay, we'll see everyone back here on February 3rd, then. 23:33 maybe we should just start working into a regular rotation 23:33 Probably. 23:33 But that sounds like a problem for future us. 23:33 Lots of stuff going on at work, otherwise I would. :( 23:33 Eickmeyer: it happens, that's fine. 23:34 ok scratch that then 23:34 we'll get there, eventually. 23:34 anyways 23:34 anythig else? 23:34 Okay, well we have the next two meetings set up, and then we'll figure it out. 23:34 Last call for business! 23:34 nope let's call it 23:34 I've got nothing. 23:35 Okay, everyone enjoy the last of their January! 23:35 #endmeeting 23:36 be well ya'll and thanks 23:37 nhaines: thanks for chairing 23:37 toddy: You're welcome. Thanks for chairing next time. 23:37 :) 16:04 i am in a bit of a lost state 16:04 do we meeting or do we not meeting?! 16:17 No meeting on calendar :D 16:20 horay! lunch! 09:34 o/ 18:59 o/ 19:09 looks like no quorum for the dmb mtg today, but there's no applications or other business in the agenda, so that is hopefully ok. I'm considering this week's meeting skipped. 19:14 ddstreet: no objection. any issues we needed to bring up can be brought to ML or email privately. 19:17 ok for me as well 15:28 o/ 15:28 Happy Tuesday cpaelzer! 15:29 to all of you as well :-) 15:29 didrocks: doko: ddstreet: jamespage_: sarnold: pre-ping for MIR meeting 15:30 o/ 15:30 cpaelzer: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress 15:30 good morning 15:30 hmm it tells me another meeting wasn't finished 15:30 * cpaelzer checks logs ... 15:30 #endmeeting 15:30 rats 15:31 nhaines: any chance you're around and can #endmeeting? 15:31 only works for the owers I guess 15:32 o/ 15:32 #chair sarnold 15:32 yeah all that would have to be in the control channel 15:32 by former owner 15:33 we have "[00:35] #endmeeting" but it seems it has not stopped 15:33 o/ 15:33 didrocks: doko: ddstreet: jamespage_: sarnold: does one of you mind if we go on (and fill their logs instead of ours) ? 15:33 +1 15:33 go 15:33 might as well keep going 15:33 +1 15:34 yep 15:34 #topic current component mismatches 15:34 #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg 15:34 not too mcuh new in this one 15:34 doko has set https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rpi-eeprom/+bug/1895137 back to New 15:34 Launchpad bug 1895137 in rpi-eeprom (Ubuntu) "[MIR] rpi-eeprom; raspberrypi-userland" [Undecided,In progress] 15:34 doko: on whom is this waiting now? 15:35 you requested a bunch of things in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rpi-eeprom/+bug/1895137/comments/13 15:35 us. fixes were uploaded without updating the report 15:35 I'll look at this 15:35 ok, so you'll do a re-review 15:35 I'll assign it then to reflect that state 15:36 of the rest I wanted to mention octavia 15:36 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/octavia/+bug/1888309 15:36 Launchpad bug 1888309 in octavia (Ubuntu) "[MIR] octavia" [High,New] 15:36 jamespage: this is on security atm - is this strictly needed this cycle to have things complete and working? 15:36 #endmeeting 15:37 ah teward had the power, thanks 15:37 cpaelzer: anyone with a member cloak can +o here 15:37 cpaelzer: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress 15:37 and endmeeting 15:37 cpaelzer: well it would be nice 15:37 um... 15:37 it's broke o.O 15:37 #endmeeting 15:37 #endmeeting 15:37 o.O 15:37 teward: nice try, but doesn't work :-) 15:37 teward: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress 15:37 i'll report to -irc and get meetingology punted 15:37 sarnold: well then - how about any ETA forecast ? 15:37 so that jamespage can plan accordingly 15:38 sarnold: you can reply to that later 15:38 while we wait on you asking the crystal ball 15:38 let us go to the more busy 15:38 #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg 15:38 abseil is now ready to be reviewed and this is my next task 15:38 thanks didrocks 15:39 backuppc the server & security teams have agreed that this sadly won't be completed in time for hirsute 15:39 so it will stay on 3.x and then complete in hopefulyl early 21.10 15:39 thereby it will stay in this view for a while 15:40 other than that the one new (for me) thing is mtd-utils -> iniparser 15:40 does that package mean anything to anyone here? 15:41 cpaelzer: doko said he was going to take it in the last meeting 15:42 yes, it's addressed in foundations 15:42 it has no bug yet 15:42 doko: would you later create a stub and assign it to whoever in foundations is on it? 15:43 I'll consider silence to be "yes" :-) 15:43 going on ... 15:43 there's also a https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/u-boot-menu/+bug/1907284 15:43 Launchpad bug 1907284 in u-boot-menu (Ubuntu) "[MIR] u-boot-menu" [Undecided,New] 15:43 but it may be missing something, the white circle suggests there's no bug yet 15:43 indeed sarnold 15:43 that isn't new, it lacks the team subscriber 15:44 without that it means "the reporter didn't shove it to us for review" 15:44 but I guess that xnox didn't want to hold it back - as it otherwise looks ready 15:44 I'll add the subscription for it to show up 15:44 done 15:44 I think :) ~ubuntu-mir ? 15:44 thanks 15:45 yes that works 15:45 any volunteers for a review ? 15:45 well it will come in the next section 15:45 let us check if we have more there 15:45 #topic New MIRs 15:45 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir 15:46 the first (rpi-eeprom) was copy&pasta - fixed 15:46 then we have left two 15:46 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/u-boot-menu/+bug/1907284 15:46 Launchpad bug 1907284 in u-boot-menu (Ubuntu) "[MIR] u-boot-menu" [Undecided,New] 15:46 as we just discussed 15:46 and 15:46 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ledmon/+bug/1794219 15:46 Launchpad bug 1794219 in OEM Priority Project "[MIR] ledmon" [Medium,New] 15:47 I have doen LEDmon in the past, might even be my first one 15:47 my updates look so bad ... 15:47 I'll re-review that one 15:47 hehe :) 15:47 anyone volunteering for u-boot-menu ? 15:48 * cpaelzer fetches a dice ... 15:48 really no one wants to, don't tell me everyone is busy - I know 15:48 i can take it 15:48 awesome 15:48 didrocks: also got one above 15:48 so we get a fair spread it seems 15:48 thanks ddstreet 15:49 ok, the list is empty now 15:49 next topic 15:49 #topic Incomplete bugs / questions 15:49 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir 15:49 we talked about needrestart last time 15:50 new in this list is flashrom 15:50 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashrom/+bug/1912371 15:50 Launchpad bug 1912371 in flashrom (Ubuntu) "[MIR] flashrom" [Undecided,Incomplete] 15:50 On that I have already pinged mclemenceau 15:50 If they want to own it they will update the bug accordingly 15:50 if not someone has to make dependencies to disappear 15:50 no action for the MIR team yet 15:50 #topic Any other business? 15:51 10 minutes left, so what is up ? 15:51 nothing for me 15:51 anything MIR'ish or not worth to share/discuss right now? 15:51 * cpaelzer is out of topics and hot to re-enter some debugging 15:51 we might experiment with Wayland by default on the desktop. The latter is already in main, but we might have utilities entring main due to that 15:52 but let’s see 15:52 entering* 15:53 nothing for me 15:53 didrocks: for 21.04 or 21.10 ? 15:54 for 21.04 15:55 uh, wow 15:55 good to be aware of 15:55 thankd didrocks 15:55 nothing else it seems 15:55 thank you everyone 15:55 wow :) 15:55 and see you next weeks with all the reviews we assigned being done 15:55 thanks cpaelzer, all :) 15:55 thanks cpaelzer, everyone :) 15:55 fake #endmeeting 15:56 the channel still waits to be freed by the current owner 15:56 nhaines: sorry, it appears the bot is unhappy, probably it doesn't matter.. 15:56 sarnold: nhaines: bot is unhappy, i've poked -ops-team and -irc about it 15:56 someone has to punt the bot 17:24 #endmeeting 17:24 jose: we did that 17:24 i did like 3 times won't let us start anew 17:24 jose: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress 17:24 see? 17:24 hence: punt it