14:31 <cpaelzer> #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status
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14:31 <didrocks999> hey
14:31 <cpaelzer> jamespage: didrocks999: ddstreet: sarnold: doko (is away) - ping to start
14:32 <cpaelzer> #topic Review of previous action items
14:32 <cpaelzer> Old ACTION - cpaelzer to ask Steve how to fastpath font packages without subscriptions
14:32 <cpaelzer> I have done that and he agrees with Doko that at least a subscriber must be present - but not the full process
14:32 <cpaelzer> I ammended our entry at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionProcess?action=show&redirect=MIRTeam#Font_Packages to reflect that
14:32 <cpaelzer> TL;DR - font packages with pure data need no MIR process, but a subscriber then an AA can promote
14:33 <didrocks> (as I was away: was there any argument against the last font package, it was just waiting on the subscription IIRC)?
14:33 <cpaelzer> no argument against it
14:33 <cpaelzer> just waited on the subscription
14:33 <cpaelzer> but we used the chance to formalize this aspect
14:33 <didrocks> ack
14:33 <cpaelzer> another action of last week(s) was around khronos-opencl-clhpp
14:33 <cpaelzer> seb_128 could you carry https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/khronos-opencl-clhpp/+bug/1636728 to the Desktop Team meeting then to sort out who should subsceribe now
14:33 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1636728 in khronos-opencl-clhpp (Ubuntu) "[MIR] khronos-opencl-clhpp" [Undecided,Fix released]
14:33 <cpaelzer> seb_128 agreed (we said and have seen the same last week) - but since the old owner was ubuntu-x it would be Dekstop to punt it over to kernel
14:33 <cpaelzer> seb was so kind to help last week, this week didrocks = seb128 :-)
14:33 <cpaelzer> And welcome back :-)
14:33 <cpaelzer> So didrocks, did this reach the team and will it be handled?
14:34 <didrocks> I did ping seb128 before going on holidays, he says he will track it because he was unsure the desktop team should be the subscriber
14:34 <cpaelzer> oh yeah
14:34 <cpaelzer> we agreed to that
14:34 <cpaelzer> we did that, we did again with seb and so on
14:35 <cpaelzer> but someone has to do the nudging of the kernel team to take it (as they own the package depending on it)
14:35 <didrocks> so, it’s all handled it seems, no? I don’t see it on mismatch
14:35 <cpaelzer> oh did it vanish
14:35 <cpaelzer> well let's do mismatches
14:35 <didrocks> looks like it :)
14:35 <cpaelzer> then we will see
14:35 <didrocks> yeah
14:36 <cpaelzer> until then the rest will have woken up - re-ping jamespage: ddstreet: sarnold:
14:36 <cpaelzer> #topic current component mismatches
14:36 <cpaelzer> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg
14:36 <cpaelzer> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg
14:36 <sarnold> good morning
14:36 <cpaelzer> didrocks: no it still is in mismatches-propsoed
14:37 <cpaelzer> there are still plenty of things we know to be on jamespage shoulders to clarify for the openstack context
14:37 <cpaelzer> and there is a golang explosion as well
14:37 <didrocks> I don’t see it :/
14:37 <cpaelzer> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg
14:37 <cpaelzer> to the right of cups and left of lintian
14:38 <didrocks> it’s khronos-opencl-clhpp here between cups and lintian
14:39 <cpaelzer> didrocks: which is the package I asked the desktop team to punt to the kernel
14:39 <didrocks> cpaelzer: ah, sorry I was still on the font package from 3 weeks ago
14:39 <cpaelzer> :-)
14:39 <cpaelzer> no that one is done
14:39 <didrocks> so, we were not talking about the same thing
14:39 <didrocks> sorry :)
14:39 <cpaelzer> np
14:39 <cpaelzer> the de-confusion is what the meegin is for
14:39 <didrocks> hehe, right
14:40 <cpaelzer> take a look at the MIR that is linked and help to resolve it beofre next week if that is ok for you
14:40 <didrocks> will do
14:40 <didrocks> do we know about the golang-google-api, what is pulling it?
14:40 <didrocks> (ack, the other one was the bug you subbed me but I didn’t manage to catch that back up still)
14:40 <cpaelzer> u-boot, lintian was for foundations,  paramiko/masakari  were on james page
14:41 <cpaelzer> what is left are the golang things for google*
14:41 <cpaelzer> didrocks: it seems the source is gce-compute-image-packages
14:42 <didrocks> that would make sense
14:43 <cpaelzer> this was also mentione din the +1 reports
14:43 <cpaelzer> for archive cleanup
14:43 <cpaelzer> I know that at least rbalint and mwhudson touched bits of it on +1 duty
14:43 <cpaelzer> at least one will be in our list of new bugs
14:43 <cpaelzer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/google-guest-agent/+bug/1891929
14:43 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1891929 in google-guest-agent (Ubuntu) "[MIR] google-guest-agent" [Undecided,New]
14:44 <cpaelzer> we will catch that in the next sub-topic
14:44 <didrocks> I’m happy to have a look at that one ^
14:44 <cpaelzer> that would be perfect
14:44 <cpaelzer> we have assigned a bunch last weeks and everyone was pretty busy getting those donw
14:45 <cpaelzer> didrocks: could you tkae an extra look if that is related (or not) to the golang-google-api that shows up
14:45 <didrocks> cpaelzer: sure
14:45 <cpaelzer> thanks
14:45 <didrocks> if we need it, then, we’ll have a tree of golang packages to look at :p
14:46 <cpaelzer> next week we are nearing feature freeze there we need to bring those up as bugs
14:46 <didrocks> yeah
14:46 <cpaelzer> we might need to open bugs and assign to teams to decide if they want to own or kill the dependency
14:46 <cpaelzer> so understanding the source of the deps would be awesome
14:46 <didrocks> I’ll have a look, I have some spare time for that this week
14:46 <cpaelzer> ok, at least no other issue in mismatches than those
14:46 <cpaelzer> #topic New MIRs
14:46 <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
14:47 <cpaelzer> well we just assigned https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/google-guest-agent/+bug/1891929
14:47 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1891929 in google-guest-agent (Ubuntu) "[MIR] google-guest-agent" [Undecided,New]
14:47 <cpaelzer> I'll do so on the bug
14:47 <cpaelzer> all the oem-* things are special cased
14:48 <didrocks> I thought no MIR were required?
14:48 <cpaelzer> next normal one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sane-airscan/+bug/1891682
14:48 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1891682 in sane-airscan (Ubuntu) "[MIR] sane-airscan" [High,New]
14:48 <cpaelzer> didrocks: the OEM things need a bug to document and the AAs to check a defined set of constraints
14:48 <cpaelzer> no MIR process on these
14:48 <didrocks> ack
14:48 <cpaelzer> do you think you could also tkae on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sane-airscan/+bug/1891682 didrocks?
14:49 <didrocks> will be a busy MIR week, but let’s do that before FF :)
14:49 <cpaelzer> thanks
14:49 <cpaelzer> #topic Incomplete bugs / questions
14:49 <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
14:50 <cpaelzer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tlp/+bug/1888656
14:50 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1888656 in OEM Priority Project "[MIR] tlp" [Critical,Triaged]
14:50 <cpaelzer> I handled this one
14:50 <cpaelzer> all it needs is a team subscriber
14:50 <cpaelzer> This is filed by xnox for the OEM team
14:50 <cpaelzer> so I'm unsure if I need to nudge foundations or Desktop
14:50 <cpaelzer> but other than the subscription the case is ready
14:51 <cpaelzer> didrocks: do you happen to know if that would be desktop?
14:51 <didrocks> IIRC seb128 was not really in favor of it being desktopish
14:51 <didrocks> as it’s a foundation request
14:51 <cpaelzer> I don't mind either way, but someone has to step up to own it before promotion
14:51 <didrocks> agreed
14:51 <cpaelzer> I made it clear enough on the bug
14:51 <cpaelzer> so no action here
14:51 <cpaelzer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ipp-usb/+bug/1891157
14:52 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1891157 in golang-github-openprinting-goipp (Ubuntu) "[MIR] ipp-usb" [High,Incomplete]
14:52 <didrocks> yeah, you already made it clear on the bug
14:52 <cpaelzer> I did that one as well (the ipp-usb portion)
14:52 <didrocks> so, on that one, Till was looking at well for a subcriber other than him (on the go binding) :)
14:52 <cpaelzer> I identified additional dpeendencies and wanted an ack that Desktop (this time the requester) really wants to own all three packages
14:52 <didrocks> I would say, same, let him sort it out
14:52 <cpaelzer> yeah we need the team
14:53 <cpaelzer> as I satetd on the bug
14:53 <cpaelzer> please get a full Team to subscribe to the package
14:53 <didrocks> yep
14:53 <cpaelzer> The printing team (https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-printing) is the perfect
14:53 <cpaelzer> team to actually handle things here and is subscribed already (thanks), but
14:53 <cpaelzer> you'd (in addition) need a full team to subscribe - ubuntu-desktop in this
14:53 <cpaelzer> case I guess as fallback for e.g. vacations or any other complex issue you
14:53 <cpaelzer> can't deal with alone.
14:53 <cpaelzer> until then  - incomplete
14:53 <didrocks> sounds perfect to me :)
14:53 <cpaelzer> and for the chance that it will be dropped I refuse to sit down for many hours reviewing the others and forcing the security Team to do the same
14:53 <cpaelzer> finally https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libonig/+bug/1889248 I handled two tasks in there
14:53 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1889248 in mdevctl (Ubuntu) "[MIR] mdevctl, jq, libonig" [Undecided,New]
14:54 <cpaelzer> one is left open and doko assigned, but he is off for a while
14:54 <cpaelzer> so it will wait
14:54 <cpaelzer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usbguard/+bug/1816548 also had some activity
14:54 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1816548 in usbguard (Ubuntu) "[MIR] usbguard" [Undecided,Incomplete]
14:54 <cpaelzer> It seems everyone would like to have it, but no one wants to own it
14:54 <cpaelzer> I guess I made that clear on the bug - no need to action here
14:54 <cpaelzer> that is it with the list
14:55 <didrocks> just read your comment, it’s clear to me
14:55 <cpaelzer> you see I was reviewing a lot this week :-)
14:55 <cpaelzer> #topic Any other business?
14:55 <didrocks> yeah, you were quite busy as I see :)
14:55 <cpaelzer> We are getting closer to FF and we can see the expected spike of MIRs
14:55 <cpaelzer> I might slightly complain that ddstreet and sarnold haven't said a word but most likely they are on PTO as well
14:56 <cpaelzer> I'm out of topics for today
14:56 <didrocks> those people still connected on IRC during holidays… :)
14:56 <sarnold> I've said "good morning" :)
14:56 <cpaelzer> hehe
14:56 <cpaelzer> and I'm guilty of reading over it without my brain enabled
14:56 <cpaelzer> hi sarnold o/
14:56 <cpaelzer> I'm looking forward to insihgt on the golang-* chaos in mismatches next week
14:56 <sarnold> hey cpaelzer :)
14:56 <didrocks> hey sarnold, I missed your good morning as well :)
14:57 <didrocks> yeah
14:57 <cpaelzer> sarnold: did you get to the review we assigned two weeks ago?
14:57 <sarnold> cpaelzer: no :( I'm sorry
14:57 <sarnold> hey didrocks :)
14:57 <cpaelzer> please feel stared on by whoever requested it to get to it :-)
14:57 <cpaelzer> but we are not yet on that much delay that we need to panic on it
14:58 <cpaelzer> sarnold: for the log - do you have a lik which one that was?
14:58 <cpaelzer> link
14:58 <didrocks> door ringing brb
14:58 <didrocks> otherwise, see you next week!
14:58 <sarnold> cpaelzer: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libinih/+bug/1883890
14:58 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1883890 in libinih (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libinih" [Undecided,New]
14:58 <cpaelzer> thanks sarnold
14:58 <xnox> cpaelzer:  re:tlp => yeah we were not sure, if it would fit into any existing subscriber teams. Or if we need a new one something like "oem" "desktop-oem" "commercial-engineering" or some such.
14:59 <xnox> and add it properly into the team reports etc.
14:59 <cpaelzer> xnox: ok, thanks for the info - so it seems the discussion is ongoing and once resolved someone will own it
14:59 <cpaelzer> once that happens it can be promoted to main then
14:59 <xnox> because for example if all of our certified laptops stop using tlp, we'd want to drop it from main, and I don't know if foundations has visibility on that per se.
14:59 <xnox> cpaelzer:  ack.
14:59 <cpaelzer> agreed xnox
15:00 <cpaelzer> so that closes our "misc" section
15:00 <cpaelzer> end of the meeting coming unless there is anything you want to bring up ...
15:00 * xnox missreads libinih as libnih, and i'm like "libnih should be dead by now"
15:00 <sarnold> xnox: heh, I did the same so many times already..
15:00 <cpaelzer> me as well
15:00 <cpaelzer> ok, thanks everyone !
15:00 <cpaelzer> until next week with many reviewed MIR bugs then
15:00 <xnox> MIR review please rename package due to PTSD
15:01 <cpaelzer> #endmeeting