== Meeting information == * #ubuntu-meeting: DMB meeting, 04 May at 15:06 — 16:03 UTC * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2020/ubuntu-meeting.2020-05-04-15.06.log.html]] == Meeting summary == === Review of previous action items === The discussion about "Review of previous action items" started at 15:08. * ''ACTION:'' tsimonq2 to better document what we expect applicants to know (carried over) * ''ACTION:'' teward follow up on packageset owning team for ubuntu-mate (carried over) * ''ACTION:'' ddstreet to write up a proposal for upload access expiry following some period of disuse (will be carried until mentioned) * ''ACTION:'' rafaeldtinoco to follow up with TB / packageset tooling on ubuntu-studio-uploaders being added to ubuntustudio packageset for upload rights (carried over) * ''ACTION:'' ddstreet to adjust existing member expiration dates from packageset owning teams (carried over) * ''ACTION:'' ddstreet to apply team expiration times for studio packageset owning team (carried over) * ''ACTION:'' teward to handle PPU rights of tux{math,paint,type},x11vnc for alkisg ahead of edubuntu packageset removal in the future * ''ACTION:'' rafaeldtinoco to handle request "Adding lubuntu-update-notifier to the Lubuntu package set" (carried over) * ''ACTION:'' rafaeldtinoco to complete documentation on existing packageset tooling, and discuss the current (large) delta in the packagesets that need adjusted (rolled over) * ''ACTION:'' teward to apply permissions changes for oSoMoN to mozilla packageset and send out announcement (rolled over) * ''ACTION:'' teward to handle Erich Eickmeyer permissions changes for access to Ubuntu Studio packageset and send out announcement (half-done, rolled over) === Ubuntu Core Developer Applications === The discussion about "Ubuntu Core Developer Applications" started at 15:24. * '''Lucas Kanashiro''' (15:24) * ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucasKanashiro/DeveloperApplication-CoreDev * ''Vote:'' Lucas Kanashiro CoreDev Application (Carried) * ''ACTION:'' sil2100 to add kanashiro coredev permissions and send announcement === Outstanding mailing list requests to assign === The discussion about "Outstanding mailing list requests to assign" started at 15:52. * '''Refresh the packagesets (Sebastien Bacher)''' (15:53) * ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2020-April/001486.html * ''ACTION:'' rafaeldtinoco to handle "Refresh the packagesets" mailing list item (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2020-April/001486.html) * '''Including yaru-theme in the in ubuntu-desktop set (Sebastien Bacher)''' (15:54) * ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2020-April/001487.html * ''ACTION:'' rafaeldtinoco to handle getting gnome-shell into ubuntu desktop exceptions list * ''ACTION:'' rafaeldtinoco to look into mailing list item "INcluding yaru-theme in the ubuntu-desktop set" (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2020-April/001487.html) * ''ACTION:'' rafaeldtinoco to look into mailing list item "Include fprint pacakges in the ubuntu-desktop set" (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2020-April/001488.html) === Chair and Time for Next Meeting === The discussion about "Chair and Time for Next Meeting" started at 15:58. === Any Other Business === The discussion about "Any Other Business" started at 16:00. == Vote results == * [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2020/ubuntu-meeting.2020-05-04-15.06.log.html#258 Lucas Kanashiro CoreDev Application]] * Motion carried (For/Against/Abstained 5/0/1) * Voters teward, rbasak, rafaeldtinoco, ddstreet, slashd, sil2100 == Action items, by person == * ddstreet * ddstreet to write up a proposal for upload access expiry following some period of disuse (will be carried until mentioned) * ddstreet to adjust existing member expiration dates from packageset owning teams (carried over) * ddstreet to apply team expiration times for studio packageset owning team (carried over) * kanashiro * sil2100 to add kanashiro coredev permissions and send announcement * oSoMoN * teward to apply permissions changes for oSoMoN to mozilla packageset and send out announcement (rolled over) * rafaeldtinoco * rafaeldtinoco to follow up with TB / packageset tooling on ubuntu-studio-uploaders being added to ubuntustudio packageset for upload rights (carried over) * rafaeldtinoco to handle request "Adding lubuntu-update-notifier to the Lubuntu package set" (carried over) * rafaeldtinoco to complete documentation on existing packageset tooling, and discuss the current (large) delta in the packagesets that need adjusted (rolled over) * rafaeldtinoco to handle "Refresh the packagesets" mailing list item (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2020-April/001486.html) * rafaeldtinoco to handle getting gnome-shell into ubuntu desktop exceptions list * rafaeldtinoco to look into mailing list item "INcluding yaru-theme in the ubuntu-desktop set" (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2020-April/001487.html) * rafaeldtinoco to look into mailing list item "Include fprint pacakges in the ubuntu-desktop set" (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2020-April/001488.html) * sil2100 * sil2100 to add kanashiro coredev permissions and send announcement * teward * teward follow up on packageset owning team for ubuntu-mate (carried over) * teward to handle PPU rights of tux{math,paint,type},x11vnc for alkisg ahead of edubuntu packageset removal in the future * teward to apply permissions changes for oSoMoN to mozilla packageset and send out announcement (rolled over) * teward to handle Erich Eickmeyer permissions changes for access to Ubuntu Studio packageset and send out announcement (half-done, rolled over) == Done items == * (none) == People present (lines said) == * rafaeldtinoco (147) * teward (145) * meetingology (35) * ddstreet (25) * sil2100 (21) * kanashiro (18) * rbasak (16) * slashd (13) * Odd_Bloke (3) * oSoMoN (1) * bryce (1) * ahasenack (1) * sergiodj (1) == Full Log == 15:06 #startmeeting DMB meeting 15:06 Meeting started Mon May 4 15:06:15 2020 UTC. The chair is rafaeldtinoco. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 15:06 15:06 Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 15:06 #chair rafaeldtinoco sil2100 teward 15:06 Current chairs: rafaeldtinoco sil2100 teward 15:06 #sneaky 15:06 :P 15:06 nice 15:07 (now me, sil, and you can execute the commands) 15:07 yep 15:07 so the topics now 15:07 Let's start with previous action items 15:07 yep 15:08 #topic Review of previous action items 15:08 tsimonq2 to better document what we expect applicants to know (carried over) 15:09 simon isn't here so lets roll that over 15:09 ok 15:09 #action tsimonq2 to better document what we expect applicants to know (carried over) 15:09 * meetingology tsimonq2 to better document what we expect applicants to know (carried over) 15:09 is that correct ? ^ 15:09 teward follow up on packageset owning team for ubuntu-mate (carried over) 15:09 carry that over 15:09 and it's duped on the agenda page - stupid copy paste - so you can go right to your request next :) 15:09 s/request/action item/ 15:10 ok 15:10 #action teward follow up on packageset owning team for ubuntu-mate (carried over) 15:10 * meetingology teward follow up on packageset owning team for ubuntu-mate (carried over) 15:10 btw. actually, do we even have quorum? 15:10 rafaeldtinoco to handle request "Adding lubuntu-update-notifier to the Lubuntu package set" (carried over) 15:10 that is done ^ 15:10 sil2100: me, you, ddstreet, rafaeldtinoco. 4/7 15:10 DMB MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE: reup your "I'm here" wave 15:10 o/ 15:10 o/ 15:10 Oh, right! Sorry, issed your hand ddstreet o/ 15:10 *missed 15:10 and we know rafaeldtinoco is here so that's quorum 15:11 continue :) 15:11 ok 15:11 no actions for me on this one, its done 15:11 ddstreet to write up a proposal for upload access expiry following some period of disuse (carried over) 15:11 let's drop this one 15:11 no action ? 15:11 no action and no rollover? 15:11 i still think it would be good to define some policy, but i dont think i will get to writing up a proposal anytime soon 15:11 yeah, no rollover, unless anyone else thinks it's something we should keep on the carryover list 15:12 we need an internal tracker board. 15:12 i dont see a problem 15:12 rolling it over 15:12 until you can or someone else tackle it 15:12 even if its too long 15:12 yeah, we'll just make a note to not bring it up every meeting. 15:12 that's fine with me, as long as it doesn't annoy anyone else :) 15:12 internally 15:12 won't annoy me 15:12 sounds good 15:12 ok.. let me put an action 15:12 and an obs 15:13 #action ddstreet to write up a proposal for upload access expiry following some period of disuse (will be carried until mentioned) 15:13 * meetingology ddstreet to write up a proposal for upload access expiry following some period of disuse (will be carried until mentioned) 15:13 teward to follow up with TB / packageset tooling on ubuntu-studio-uploaders being added to ubuntustudio packageset for upload rights 15:14 this is dependant of my action 15:14 teward: no ? 15:14 yep it's dependent on your action if you can add them to the packageset 15:14 but if you want to take it you can now, since you're working on the tooling and such. 15:14 ok, its mine 15:14 cool one less thing on my list xD 15:14 #action rafaeldtinoco to follow up with TB / packageset tooling on ubuntu-studio-uploaders being added to ubuntustudio packageset for upload rights (carried over) 15:14 * meetingology rafaeldtinoco to follow up with TB / packageset tooling on ubuntu-studio-uploaders being added to ubuntustudio packageset for upload rights (carried over) 15:14 ddstreet to adjust existing member expiration dates from packageset owning teams 15:15 plz carry over again 15:15 ok 15:15 i should be able to get to it this week 15:15 #action ddstreet to adjust existing member expiration dates from packageset owning teams (carried over) 15:15 * meetingology ddstreet to adjust existing member expiration dates from packageset owning teams (carried over) 15:15 i assume this one 15:15 ddstreet to apply team expiration times for studio packageset owning team 15:15 just as an aside to all: release weeks tend to take everyone's time so the DMB unfortunately doesn't get everything done we want to when a release week crops up 15:15 will be also carried over ? 15:15 in case anyone wonders why we carry stuff over :) 15:15 yep, please 15:16 #action ddstreet to apply team expiration times for studio packageset owning team (carried over) 15:16 * meetingology ddstreet to apply team expiration times for studio packageset owning team (carried over) 15:16 wow we had so many tasks 15:16 teward to handle PPU rights of tux{math,paint,type},x11vnc for alkisg ahead of edubuntu packageset removal in the future. 15:17 release week got me busy 15:17 plus security response at my FT job got hectic last week due to some major issues that came up 15:17 so i'll be doing that today 15:17 but keep it as rolled-over for next meeting 15:17 for followup 15:17 sure 15:17 no faults here, last weeks were busy =) 15:17 yep 15:17 let me roll over this 15:18 #action teward to handle PPU rights of tux{math,paint,type},x11vnc for alkisg ahead of edubuntu packageset removal in the future 15:18 * meetingology teward to handle PPU rights of tux{math,paint,type},x11vnc for alkisg ahead of edubuntu packageset removal in the future 15:18 btw, i need to rollover this 15:18 #action rafaeldtinoco to handle request "Adding lubuntu-update-notifier to the Lubuntu package set" (carried over) 15:18 * meetingology rafaeldtinoco to handle request "Adding lubuntu-update-notifier to the Lubuntu package set" (carried over) 15:18 Sure 15:18 its not done because of my next action 15:18 rafaeldtinoco to complete documentation on existing packageset tooling, and discuss the current (large) delta in the packagesets that need adjusted 15:18 i'm half way done here ^ 15:18 have read all scripts, understood all the logic 15:19 need to document and after that update all seeds based on the tools 15:19 and suggest the changes for 20.10 to discuss with you all 15:19 its will be ready by next dmb meeting 15:19 #action rafaeldtinoco to complete documentation on existing packageset tooling, and discuss the current (large) delta in the packagesets that need adjusted (rolled over) 15:19 * meetingology rafaeldtinoco to complete documentation on existing packageset tooling, and discuss the current (large) delta in the packagesets that need adjusted (rolled over) 15:19 teward to apply permissions changes for oSoMoN to mozilla packageset and send out announcement 15:20 (hey there!) 15:20 teward: ^ 15:21 E: delayed by phone call sorry 15:21 no worries 15:21 i have to check on that I may have derped and not done it oops 15:21 so roll over 15:21 (oSoMoN o/) 15:22 #action teward to apply permissions changes for oSoMoN to mozilla packageset and send out announcement (rolled over) 15:22 * meetingology teward to apply permissions changes for oSoMoN to mozilla packageset and send out announcement (rolled over) 15:22 (unrelated: seems today is a day for the Net Sec guy at work - me - to get bombarded with crap) 15:22 (stupid phone calls) 15:22 teward to handle Erich Eickmeyer permissions changes for access to Ubuntu Studio packageset and send out announcement 15:22 same, roll over 15:22 i think i gave them to the team but not the announce 15:22 ok 15:22 #action teward to handle Erich Eickmeyer permissions changes for access to Ubuntu Studio packageset and send out announcement (half-done, rolled over) 15:22 * meetingology teward to handle Erich Eickmeyer permissions changes for access to Ubuntu Studio packageset and send out announcement (half-done, rolled over) 15:23 rafaeldtinoco to reinstate Serge Hallyn's ubuntu-core-dev rights. 15:23 done ^ 15:23 alright, phew 15:23 we dont have any applicants for package sets or motu 15:23 we do have for core 15:23 kanashiro: ping 15:24 #topic Ubuntu Core Developer Applications 15:24 #subtopic Lucas Kanashiro 15:24 #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucasKanashiro/DeveloperApplication-CoreDev 15:24 (sorry i am impatient) 15:24 teward: no, please help me 15:24 (those commands are for the meeting logs' benefits) 15:24 nice, now its introduction time ? 15:24 kanashiro: are you around? 15:25 Since Lucas is a close colleague of mine at Canonical I do my usual abstaining unless the others are unanimous and my vote is required for quorum. 15:25 rbasak: o/ 15:25 +1 on what rbasak said 15:25 rbasak: awesome. (didn't realize you were alive heh) 15:25 I'm on the same team as well 15:25 Sorry I was in a meeting at the start (same as Rafael) 15:25 no problem 15:25 i was saving rbasak to talk until super needed 15:25 as he was talking in other meeting 15:25 rbasak: with you and rafaeldtinoco taking abstains though, that means we don't have quorum for LUcas' application 15:26 That's OK. I will vote +1 if everyone else does and it is required for quroum. 15:26 ack 15:26 i don't see them here though 15:26 That's been my personal policy for this kind of situation for years. 15:26 and im mimic'ing his behavior not to characterize conflict of interest 15:26 indeed. 15:27 slashd: ping ? 15:27 eric is on a sprint this week, just checking if he is up to a quick vote 15:28 I wonder if kanashiro is around though 15:28 Looks like he is 15:28 Let's give him a minute 15:28 He says he's sending messages but they aren't appearing in here 15:29 nickserv 15:29 Mode: +Ccnz 15:29 Did he identify himself with NickServ properly? 15:29 kanashiro: try leaving and re-joining the channel 15:29 we can +v them if we have to manually 15:29 i think i had to do that an eon ago for a DMB meeting to move smoothly (before I was DMB) 15:29 Well this is an interesting twist 15:30 o/ 15:30 (the second time I've had to op today - new record!) 15:30 sorry about the confusion kanashiro :) 15:30 (we can see you now) 15:30 great :) 15:30 sorry for that 15:30 nah its ok 15:31 rbasak: so how should we proceed ? 15:31 they're alive so 15:31 it appears that without you and me.. we have 3 possible votes 15:31 i called slashd 15:31 he is likely comming 15:31 lets see 15:31 rafaeldtinoco: rbasak already said they'd +1 if it's +3 for us 15:31 yeah we should just go ahead 15:31 but we can either wait for slashd or continue or roll over 15:31 o/ 15:31 i think we have enough to vote 15:31 i think we're safe to move forward 15:31 welcome slashd 15:31 now we definitely do 15:31 I'm here if you need to meet quorum 15:31 sorry sprinting this week 15:31 slashd: we will need it for this one 15:31 no problem 15:31 slashd: yey! 15:32 sure 15:32 I'm here 15:32 slashd: after this applicant you can go AWOL again :0 15:32 (i'mma keep op to reset perms post-meeting) 15:32 kanashiro: so, present yourself now 15:32 please 15:32 I am Lucas Kanashiro (a.k.a. kanashiro) and I am a member of the Canonical Server team. I've been working on server packages (fixing bugs, merges, syncs, reviews, bug triage) and personally taking care of the Ruby stack (interpreter, apps, libraries), and I've gone through most of the processes used by the community at least once (MIR, SRU, seed changes, merge, sync, transition, CVE fix, proposed migration work, package removal). I'd like to 15:32 be more independent to do my work and help to make Ubuntu even better. 15:33 great. let's give sometime for votes to check your wiki 15:34 ack 15:34 teward: should we do something when opening for questions ? 15:34 change topic ? 15:34 rafaeldtinoco: just for voting, question period doesn't require changing things 15:34 nope 15:34 leave it be rafaeldtinoco :) 15:34 kanashiro: totally unrelated random question not related to your application but as being on the server team: any reason you don't lurk #ubuntu-server ? 15:35 just curious :) 15:35 teward: I think I had some issue with my IRC bouncer and got disconnected 15:35 ah. 15:35 :) 15:35 I'll figure this out 15:35 no problem :) 15:35 no questions from me 15:36 kanashiro are you subscribed to all bugs from any packages? 15:36 (it's not required, i'm just curious) 15:36 ddstreet: I don't think so, I am still learning how to use launchpad properly 15:37 but I should, at least for the core packages 15:37 Only thing worth mentioning from me is that I have uploaded maybe 70% of his package changes for the ruby2.7 transition. He did all the work in debian and synced it to Ubuntu PLUS solving all excuses that appeared (quote a lot). I follow this work of him for ~2 months. 15:37 kanashiro: what are the things you need to consider before uploading in developement release when it is a few weeks away from being stable (most recent example is focal which became stable lately) ? and where would you look to see it what can be done or not ? 15:39 slashd: if there is a hard freeze I'd need an approval by the release team, so I need to check if no new feature is introduces (ABI changes). To make sure about the release schedule I'd check the release team wiki page and check the dates 15:40 not sure if this is what you were expecting as an answer 15:40 kanashiro: yes thanks 15:40 kanashiro: since you have worked on bigger things as transitions, can you tell me what additional information can you get from update_output.txt that you can't from update_excuses.html? 15:41 sil2100: I have faced some uninstability issues and output.txt has helped me to identifying them 15:41 ddstreet: FWIW, our team has our own process for making sure all bug traffic gets seen, so we generally don't have individual subscriptions (bus factor). 15:42 ^ this 15:42 i can confirm this with how frequently the Server Team at canonical are triaging nginx without anything of my doing xD 15:43 yep, i do know of ~ubuntu-server subscription to lots of packages, there are some members who subscribe individually to pkgs too though 15:44 kanashiro: you should do it ^ for the pkgs you want to maintain. 15:44 its a nice best practice 15:44 rafaeldtinoco: yes, I need to do that 15:45 just don't do what tsimonq2 does and subscribe to all the bugs via the bugs mailing list... 15:45 ... seriously just don't xD 15:45 :) 15:46 * rafaeldtinoco leaving it opened for questions, let me know if/when you're all ok 15:46 (seriously don't i won't explain the specifics here bug me in PM if you really want to know lol) 15:46 NO questions from me :) 15:46 nothing else from me 15:46 nothing else 15:46 kanashiro: thanks o/ 15:47 No questions here 15:47 #voters ddstreet rafaeldtinoco teward rbasak slashd sil2100 15:47 Current voters: ddstreet rafaeldtinoco rbasak sil2100 slashd teward 15:47 Nicely written up application, btw! 15:47 #votesrequired 4 15:47 votes now need 4 to be passed 15:47 sorry ignore i'm prepping for the vote :) 15:47 i assume no q from you rbasak :) 15:48 thanks rbasak 15:48 +1 15:48 #vote Lucas Kanashiro CoreDev Application 15:48 Please vote on: Lucas Kanashiro CoreDev Application 15:48 Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) 15:48 +1 15:48 +1 received from teward 15:48 it wasn't ready yet sil ;) 15:48 now it is 15:48 Oh, didn't register mine 15:48 +1 15:48 +1 received from sil2100 15:48 sil2100: because i hadn't started it yet 15:48 +1 15:48 +1 received from ddstreet 15:48 +1 15:48 +1 received from slashd 15:48 +1 then 15:48 +1 then received from rafaeldtinoco 15:48 well that's quorum right there, so we don't need rafaeldtinoco or rbasak but they can cast if they want 15:48 +0 as he's on my team and we are quorate. 15:48 +0 as he's on my team and we are quorate. received from rbasak 15:49 oh there we go :) 15:49 #endvote 15:49 Voting ended on: Lucas Kanashiro CoreDev Application 15:49 Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:1 15:49 Motion carried 15:49 kanashiro: congratulations on your successful coredev application :) 15:49 congrats kanashiro! 15:49 kanashiro: congratulations 15:49 kanashiro: congrats :) 15:49 congrats kanashiro :-D 15:49 thank you! 15:49 \o/ 15:49 teward: action item ? 15:49 congrats kanashiro 15:49 who wants that action item of sorting the perms and announcing it? (I have enough with my current assignemtns) 15:50 * slashd going back to the sprint ;) 15:50 rafaeldtinoco: gotta determine who wants to do it :) 15:50 kanashiro: \o/ 15:50 slashd: thx a lot 15:50 rafaeldtinoco: sure 15:50 thanks slashd :) 15:50 I' ll do the honors 15:50 kanashiro: congrats o/ 15:50 teward: add an action item for me pls 15:50 \o/ 15:50 rafaeldtinoco: are you sure? You have a lot on your plate 15:51 sil2100: you do it then 15:51 #action rafaeldtinoco to add kanashiro coredev permissions and send announcement 15:51 * meetingology rafaeldtinoco to add kanashiro coredev permissions and send announcement 15:51 #) 15:51 ok i do 15:51 lol 15:51 i can always fix that 15:51 rafaeldtinoco i can take it if you have too much 15:51 Yeah, I can take those 15:51 ill let you guys do it 15:51 IGNORE last action item 15:51 #undo is what you want 15:51 #undo 15:51 Removing item from minutes: ACTION 15:51 rbasak: thanks (E:UNDOCUMENTED) 15:51 who's taking the action, me or sil2100 ? 15:51 #action sil2100 to add kanashiro coredev permissions and send announcement 15:51 * meetingology sil2100 to add kanashiro coredev permissions and send announcement 15:52 ok :) 15:52 sil because i didn't see your claim sorry :) 15:52 np happy to let him have it :) 15:52 well that's the only application for today :) 15:52 so next... 15:52 looks like we're done 15:52 #topic Outstanding mailing list requests to assign 15:52 I did _just_ send a request for cloud-utils to be added to ubuntu-cloud. 15:52 (No rush on that, it can wait for next meeting.) 15:53 Odd_Bloke: That'll be caught between now and next meeting :) 15:53 #subtopic Refresh the packagesets (Sebastien Bacher) 15:53 #link https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2020-April/001486.html 15:53 that is on me 15:53 being carried over together with the packageset scripts 15:53 #action rafaeldtinoco to handle "Refresh the packagesets" mailing list item (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2020-April/001486.html) 15:53 * meetingology rafaeldtinoco to handle "Refresh the packagesets" mailing list item (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2020-April/001486.html) 15:54 #subtopic Including yaru-theme in the in ubuntu-desktop set (Sebastien Bacher) 15:54 #link https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2020-April/001487.html 15:54 looks like it wasnt picked automatic because of the same reasons ? 15:54 for this (and the next one), i'm super confused about what the desktop-extras packageset is for 15:55 ddstreet: we'll mark this as 'rolled over' pending an AOB item for this 15:55 i'll roll over both items for that reason 15:55 gnome-shell needs to be added 15:55 in the exceptions list from the packageset tooling 15:55 if im reading correctly, sometimes pkgs are put in "wrong" set 15:56 and we have to make them exceptions 15:56 rafaeldtinoco: do you want an action item to handle that part? Since you're the one handling the tooling currently 15:56 i guess? i'm not sure what 'desktop-core' is intended for though, since there are no uploaders in that pkgset 15:56 gnome-shell ubuntu-desktop <- currently 15:56 yep 15:56 thnx 15:56 all the "same nature" actions 15:56 #action rafaeldtinoco to handle getting gnome-shell into ubuntu desktop exceptions list 15:56 * meetingology rafaeldtinoco to handle getting gnome-shell into ubuntu desktop exceptions list 15:56 i'll handle for the next meeting 15:56 together with the scripting 15:57 @action rafaeldtinoco to look into mailing list item "INcluding yaru-theme in the ubuntu-desktop set" (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2020-April/001487.html) 15:57 oops 15:57 #action rafaeldtinoco to look into mailing list item "INcluding yaru-theme in the ubuntu-desktop set" (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2020-April/001487.html) 15:57 * meetingology rafaeldtinoco to look into mailing list item "INcluding yaru-theme in the ubuntu-desktop set" (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2020-April/001487.html) 15:57 does this also apply to fprint? 15:57 yep 15:57 #action rafaeldtinoco to look into mailing list item "Include fprint pacakges in the ubuntu-desktop set" (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2020-April/001488.html) 15:57 * meetingology rafaeldtinoco to look into mailing list item "Include fprint pacakges in the ubuntu-desktop set" (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2020-April/001488.html) 15:58 all those issues come from the same place: adjusting the packagesets automatically and having exceptions 15:58 nice 15:58 awesome 15:58 ill have this all addressed by next meeting 15:58 next quick little item: 15:58 #topic Chair and Time for Next Meeting 15:58 Next meeting is set for May 18, 2020 at 19:00 UTC. Chair is scheduled to be rbasak per the cycling list of chairs. 15:58 rbasak: will you be available for next meeting? 15:59 (if not i'm happy to chair heh) 15:59 (again) 15:59 i can chair it 15:59 now that i know the commands 15:59 thanks for stepping in to help me 16:00 specially because ill have many items being addressed 16:00 yep 16:00 so it will require me big time anyway 16:00 i'll leave it alone for now :) 16:00 ok 16:00 so rafaeldtinoco you will chair :) 16:00 and i'll still help out :) 16:00 great. thx 16:00 #topic Any Other Business 16:00 No AOB here 16:00 n/a 16:00 ops 16:01 WAIT 16:01 I have it 16:01 hm? 16:01 but we probably want to push those to later this year 16:01 i was going to suggest to move bzr repos (tooling) 16:01 rafaeldtinoco: ddstreet: did you want to discuss ubuntu-desktop/desktop-core during this AOB? 16:01 to git 16:01 rafaeldtinoco: they are in git already 16:01 last i checked a git repo was made for them already 16:01 at least for the packageset tooling 16:02 rafaeldtinoco: which tooling do you have in mind? 16:02 teward i'm ok waiting until next mtg for that, i think with rafaeldtinoco docs on the tooling it may be clearer 16:02 yes, they are, not the archive-tools though 16:02 ah ok 16:02 ddstreet: ack 16:02 yep 16:02 lets just wait on this 16:02 rafaeldtinoco: add that as an agenda item when you are ready to discuss it :) 16:02 we all have many stuff 16:02 teward: yep, all good for now 16:02 any other business from anyone? 16:02 (30s) 16:02 (20s) 16:02 (10s) 16:03 (5s) 16:03 that was fast 16:03 ubuntu-archive-tools isn't down to the DMB unfortunately 16:03 your clock should be monotonic 16:03 It needs ~ubuntu-archive to move it 16:03 just saying 16:03 heh 16:03 But yes, it should be moved :) 16:03 rbasak: yes, i saw that later also 16:03 makes sense rbasak :) we'll bring that up later as well 16:03 guess there's no other business then? 16:03 thanks all for attending! 16:03 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)