15:02 #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team 15:02 Meeting started Thu Jun 20 15:02:11 2019 UTC. The chair is cyphermox. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 15:02 15:02 Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 15:02 #topic Lightning rounds 15:02 echo $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity cyphermox mwhudson juliank waveform) 15:02 * vorlon waves 15:02 vorlon doko sil2100 mwhudson bdmurray infinity xnox cyphermox tdaitx juliank rbalint waveform 15:02 oh noes 15:03 vorlon noes 15:03 doko nopes? 15:03 cyphermox: come back to me 15:03 yup 15:03 doko: 15:04 o/ 15:04 guess he might have noped 15:04 sil2100 is on a holiday 15:04 who'se there? 15:04 I'm here 15:04 bdmurray: your turn then 15:04 oh yess! 15:04 cyphermox: I can go whenever 15:05 worked with webops to resolve issues w/ cassandra and units connecting 15:05 reviewed sil2100's MP regarding additional sru removal suggestions 15:05 reviewed, merged, uploaded deb2snap DistUpgradeQuirk improvement (LP: #1831933) 15:05 Launchpad bug 1831933 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Disco) "do-release-upgrade tries to install snaps even if it knows it can't reach the snapstore" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1831933 15:05 reviewed, merged, uploaded release version translation fix (LP: #1727472) 15:05 Launchpad bug 1727472 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Eoan) "[RFE] Automatically update the Ubuntu version string in ubuntu-release-upgrader" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1727472 15:05 discussed with mvo c-n-f-extractor mlocate / locate change 15:05 tested dropping of u-r-u's obsolete kernel removal code (LP: #1828100) 15:05 investigation into having u-r-u understand architectures in meta-release 15:05 uploaded eoan fixes for LP: #1829968, LP: #1824005 15:05 Launchpad bug 1828100 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Eoan) "KernelRemoval section of DistUpgrade.cfg shouldn't require manual updating" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1828100 15:05 Launchpad bug 1829968 in base-files (Ubuntu Bionic) "motd [on at least some instances] does not auto-update daily" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1829968 15:05 Launchpad bug 1824005 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Eoan) "installing / refreshing snap impossible to translate" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1824005 15:05 ✔ done 15:05 vorlon: how about now? 15:05 * announced the dropping of i386; fielding feedback 15:05 * meeting to confirm plans around OVS support in netplan 15:05 * discussions around difficult fwupd SRU to bionic 15:05 * netplan schema introspection: spec review/agreement 15:05 * planning for UC20 sprint next week 15:05 * upcoming: 15:05 * off tomorrow 15:06 * in London next week 15:06 (done) 15:06 xnox: 15:06 * secureboot signed s390-tools migrated 15:06 * fix s390-tools ftbfs (submitted upstream too) 15:06 * working on staruprd for uc20 15:06 * working on core20 snap being able to build in lp/eoan 15:06 * working on multipath -part* vs s390x and encrypted systems 15:06 * more subiquity/casper fun for s390x 15:06 * UC20 sprint next week 15:06 (done) 15:06 cyphermox: 15:07 MIR review: finishing probert review 15:07 investigating edk2/ovmf black screen with secboot.fd firmware 15:07 StartUpRD 15:07 netplan specs 15:07 finishing grub2 merge 15:07 (done) 15:07 tdaitx: 15:08 rbalint: 15:08 (short week) 15:08 * updated kerneloops with new upstream snapshot and few fixes in Debian 15:08 * filed and provided patch for https://bugs.debian.org/930654 15:08 Debian bug 930654 in base-files "base-files: mesg: ttyname failed: No such device" [Normal,Open] 15:08 * partner work 15:08 * meetings and discussions 15:08 (done) 15:08 waveform: 15:09 * off on Monday 15:09 * working on PR for pi3-gadget to use flash-kernel's new RPi bootscript; may require SRU of flash-kernel (it's currently using bionic as a package source) 15:09 * dissected core's u-boot environment (several versions) to determine what is specific to it, and whether it's feasible to have a single bootscript for core+classic (it is, but we need some extra bits to support their kernel params and splash screen) 15:09 * checked Core on CM3+; it doesn't work - firmware out of date, commit in the works 15:09 * replicated bluetooth issues on 3B+, haven't found time to dig into why yet 15:09 * responded to comments on pi image building instructions 15:09 (done) 15:10 thanks! 15:10 #topic Release incoming bugs (eoan) 15:10 #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs 15:11 So I see a bunch of ftbfs bugs in there but I thought we'd said they go straight to cards 15:12 vorlon: ^^ 15:12 ack, I'll card 'em now 15:12 Well it'd be nice if that step got done with the bug filing 15:12 bug 1832651 15:12 bug 1832651 in systemd (Ubuntu) "jackdbus fails to start: cannot allocate memory" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1832651 15:13 bdmurray, i think we just card the ftbfs and pick them, but not at the meeting 15:14 rbalint: my point was when the ftbfs bug is filed a card should also be created 15:14 xnox: that's a systemd bug and I think there's an upstream fix 15:15 ok 15:16 bdmurray: target 15:17 so all the undecided ones are ftbfs 15:17 grub2 is irrelevant, it's not going to be ftbfs when I'm done with it. 15:17 indeed 15:18 actually, it is right now for me (I had exactly those issues), but that's what I'm fixing atm 15:18 (claiming) 15:19 I'll fix up the rest 15:19 cyphermox: I forget what did we say about bug 1706859? 15:19 bug 1706859 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Bionic) "Auto-selected keyboard layout no longer matches chosen region on "Where are you" page" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1706859 15:20 I think I said I was going to test it, figure out if it's indeed what I think, picking language in ubiquity screens vs. in gfxboot 15:20 (so, preseeding) 15:20 that sounds familiar 15:20 so we leave that pending testing 15:21 bug 1783597 has a question about revising minimum installation space for preinstalled snaps 15:21 bug 1783597 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "The disk-space-needed estimate doesn't account for the snaps" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1783597 15:21 yeah 15:21 that one was because there's an open question whether we should also revisit minimum space hints in installers 15:21 vorlon: Do you think we should just bump the space needed or maybe check to see if we should? 15:21 e.g. do a minimum install and see what happens 15:22 probably the latter 15:22 okay, I'll test that 15:23 I think that's good for rls-ee bugs 15:23 #topic Release incoming bugs (bionic) 15:23 #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs 15:23 one bug in that list 15:23 how can we tell the needed space for snaps in advance when there are debs pulling in snaps in postinst? 15:24 that's not how our images should be configured; snaps should be getting directly seeded 15:25 should we add an extra fields to debs? 15:25 juliank, that could work 15:26 like extra space needed for the package 15:26 XB-Extra-Install-Size: 15:26 this could also be useful for other dynamic data 15:26 It might also be a useful estimate for packages that might create huge files 15:26 or flash installer or stuff 15:26 :-D 15:27 juliank, seems we agree :-) 15:28 ack 15:28 * juliank speaks with his crazy APT maintainer hat 15:34 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1509717 15:34 Launchpad bug 1509717 in lvm2 (Ubuntu) "Wily LVM-RAID1 – md: personality for level 1 is not loaded" [High,In progress] 15:34 So old 15:34 ^ bb incoming bug 15:36 I see it's assigned to apw 15:37 is this something foundations should look to address? do we agree that now we have comment #7 should we do it? 15:37 so; tracking or not? 15:37 so xnox it's an sru of lvm2? 15:37 xnox: are you volunteering for it? 15:38 cyphermox: no, enotime 15:38 i can do it in august 15:38 ack 15:38 but it's a small change 15:38 it's just a little wafer 15:38 so let's track and card that then 15:38 ok I'll do 15:39 and unassign Andy 15:39 ok; moving on then 15:39 #topic Team proposed-migration report 15:39 vorlon: btw, should i sru openssl postinst fix for people who purged debconf database? 15:39 #link http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs 15:40 vorlon: or just push openssl to security, and let everyone explode?! 15:40 xnox: you mean fix the .templates? 15:40 there is no postinst change required 15:40 xnox, vorlon let's chat more about this one when we get to AOB 15:40 and yes it should be fixed 15:40 apt is blocked on apt 15:41 juliank is on it 15:41 upstream apt maintainer me will be doing a new release soon 15:42 also python-apt update is needed, see https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/html/apt.html 15:42 also could someone remove debian-xcontrol, aptsh, and goplay from eoan? thanks! 15:43 (I filed bugs they are listed in #u-release somewhere) 15:44 ok; that's it then? 15:44 #topic Chair selection for next meeting 15:44 who's the victim? 15:44 Is AOB after chair? 15:44 yes 15:45 cyphermox, shuf? :-) 15:45 I nominate sil2100 because he's not here to defend himself? 15:45 (that's what I did, shuf) 15:45 +1 15:45 +1 15:45 seconded 15:45 +seconded 15:45 shuf is going to be fair but not fun though; if you happen to be unlucky 15:46 ok, sil2100 is next chair, or we'll figure out something 15:46 #topic AOB 15:46 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ 15:46 that's a good song! 15:47 cyphermox: You are out on Monday right? 15:48 yes, I'm out for the next two Mondays 15:48 JFTR: I'm not here - I'm out today and tomorrow 15:48 All I did today was wash my bicycle 15:48 bdmurray: but, hey, Mondays are the worst 15:48 and now I want lasagna 15:49 any other other business? 15:49 end of aob 15:49 nothing else here 15:50 winnitude! 15:50 #endmeeting