== Meeting information == * #ubuntu-meeting Meeting, 07 Feb at 16:01 — 16:40 UTC * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2019/ubuntu-meeting.2019-02-07-16.01.log.html]] == Meeting summary == === Lightning round === The discussion about "Lightning round" started at 16:01. * ''LINK:'' https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/grub/+git/ubuntu/+merge/362869 === Bugs === The discussion about "Bugs" started at 16:15. === proposed-migration === The discussion about "proposed-migration" started at 16:25. * ''LINK:'' http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/disco/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs * ''ACTION:'' vorlon to follow up w/ apw * ''ACTION:'' vorlon to follow up w/ apw about kernel autopkgtests blocking the world === AOBB === The discussion about "AOBB" started at 16:35. === AOB === The discussion about "AOB" started at 16:35. == Vote results == == Action items, by person == * vorlon * vorlon to follow up w/ apw * vorlon to follow up w/ apw about kernel autopkgtests blocking the world == Done items == * (none) == People present (lines said) == * vorlon (51) * xnox (36) * bdmurray (28) * sil2100 (26) * cyphermox (21) * ubottu (17) * tdaitx (15) * doko (13) * rbalint (8) * cjwatson (8) * waveform (7) * gaughen (7) * meetingology (5) * juliank (3) == Full Log == 16:01 #startmeeting 16:01 Meeting started Thu Feb 7 16:01:10 2019 UTC. The chair is vorlon. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 16:01 16:01 Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 16:01 [TOPIC] Lightning round 16:01 $ echo $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity cyphermox mwhudson juliank waveform) 16:01 juliank xnox rbalint vorlon infinity mwhudson waveform cyphermox doko bdmurray sil2100 tdaitx 16:01 * apt work 16:01 I think that's it 16:01 skip 16:01 heh :) 16:02 rbalint: 16:02 * released livecd-rootfs merging multiple fixes including fixing mount with latest util-linux 16:02 * many unattended-upgrades 16.04 SRU verifications finding a few incomplete fixes 16:02 * partner meeting 16:02 * trying to reproduce resurfacing LP: #1766217, with no luck yet 16:02 Launchpad bug 1766217 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "software updater presents an empty panel for updating" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1766217 16:02 * gardening unattended-upgrades bugs and playing with pinning support 16:02 (done) 16:02 rbalint: does it work? :D 16:03 juliank, it seems so but i'm preparing a mr for apt to use -32767 for never 16:03 vorlon: 16:03 * MP raised for LP: #564853, to fix spurious ucf prompts in grub 16:03 * proposed-migration 16:03 * discussions around MySQL 8.0 OpenSSL linkage 16:03 * discussions around OpenJDK 11 in bionic 16:04 Launchpad bug 564853 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "Spurious conffile prompts for /etc/default/grub" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/564853 16:04 (done) 16:04 waveform: 16:04 no Adam? 16:04 vorlon, \o/ for the grub fix 16:04 bdmurray: evidently not 16:04 * validating upgrades to current bionic from beta on various Pi models; identified a few issues that need dealing with 16:04 * patched u-boot to deal with one aforementioned upgrade issue 16:04 * tested core16 and core18 images on CM3; awaiting delivery of CM3+ for further testing 16:04 * wiringpi nearly complete (now builds on PPA and result works, but one final warning to squash) 16:04 * RPi.GPIO package accepted so GPIO via Python should now be possible on arm64 16:04 * investigated systemd "degraded" state of arm64 Pi image on boot; network-wait and kernel-modules to blame 16:04 (done) 16:05 cyphermox: 16:05 SHIM review: CentOS, SuSE. 16:05 MIR reviews: gnome-remote-desktop, pipewire 16:05 e2fsprogs: SRU verification for bug 1798562 16:05 bug 1798562 in e2fsprogs (Ubuntu) "After a side by side installation, resized filesystem is corrupted" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1798562 16:05 grub2 SRUs: 16:05 - bug 1814575: fix "db is empty" on Lenovos when checking signatures for kernels (cosmic, bionic) 16:05 - bug 1814403: land vorlon's fix for quick-boot-lvm detecting efi status (cosmic, bionic) 16:05 bug 1814575 in grub2-signed (Ubuntu) "Updates failing because "db is empty"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1814575 16:05 - bionic: bug LP: #1401532: disabling fallback to unsigned. in unapproved until post-pointrelease 16:05 partman-efi/ubiquity: early detection for missing ESP (SRU verification for bug LP: #1803031) 16:05 bug 1814403 in grub2 (Ubuntu Bionic) "Latest update causes 30 sec. menu delay timeout" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1814403 16:05 dkms+shim-signed: currently verifying SRUs for xenial, trusty 16:05 Launchpad bug 1401532 in grub2-signed (Ubuntu Bionic) "GRUB's Secure Boot implementation loads unsigned kernel without warning" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1401532 16:05 scratching my head about other shim reviews. 16:05 Launchpad bug 1803031 in grub-installer (Ubuntu) "error: cannot find EFI directory." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1803031 16:05 (done) 16:05 - FOSDEM and OpenJDK committers workshop 16:05 - OpenJDK 12 build 31 16:05 - GCC 9 packages in -proposed, updating GCC 8 not to build the common packages 16:05 - binutils 2.32 16:05 - IBMz performance call 16:05 - OpenJDK-11 update calls 16:05 - finished the ftbfs regression spreadsheet for OpenSSL/OpenJDK/GCC/Python 16:05 - preparing SRU's for the planned bionic GCC 7.4 update 16:05 oh yes, I guess I did other grub stuff this week too, didn't I ;) 16:05 (done) 16:05 i can go too, i think 16:05 xnox: I'll wait for you 16:06 * FOSDEM 16:06 - sent report 16:06 - did resolved talk 16:06 - "fixed" snapd/systemd/no /usr/local in PATH in bionic 16:06 - turns out we ship and use /usr/local a lot in production 16:06 * systemd v240 migrated \o/ 16:06 * working on OpenSSL SRU fixing up leaf packages 16:06 (end) 16:06 had MP merged regarding migration of the ET mojo spec to use autocert 16:06 worked w/ webops regarding getting ET mojo spec to pass in jenkins w/ autocert 16:06 submitted RT regarding setting up dev ops env for geonames mojo spec 16:06 wrote blog post regarding whoopsie OOPS ID and .uploaded file 16:06 fixed apport bug 1658188 harder (missed something 2 years ago) 16:06 uploaded 18.04 SRU for apport bug LP: #1766337 16:06 reported debian bug 921581 regarding distro-info 16:06 bug 1658188 in apport (Ubuntu Xenial) "/usr/share/apport/apport-gtk:TypeError:/usr/share/apport/apport-gtk@597:run_argv:run_crashes" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1658188 16:06 reported distro-info-data bug LP: #1814976 re eol-server dates 16:06 Launchpad bug 1766337 in apport (Ubuntu Bionic) "uncaught python exception : UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte; invalid continuation byte" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1766337 16:06 Debian bug 921581 in distro-info "Typo in error message regarding csv format" [Minor,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/921581 16:06 Launchpad bug 1814976 in distro-info-data (Ubuntu) "eol-server dates are empty for current releases" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1814976 16:06 submitted (merged) PR re KPI for proposed migration by team 16:06 created graph for the KPI for proposed migration by team 16:06 uploaded python-apt w/ updated mirrors lists for Ubuntu 18.04.2 16:06 tested various installers of Ubuntu on an Intel NUC 16:06 ✔ done 16:07 - SRU reviews and releases 16:07 - Kernel releases 16:07 - Weekend snapd regression, reviewing and releasing the SRU 16:07 - Updating the crisis document 16:07 - 18.04.2: 16:07 * Clean up of old unverified langpacks 16:07 * Preparing the .2 changelog on wiki 16:07 * Creating, verifying and sending the pi3 arm64 core18 model assertion to the store 16:07 * Adding changes to livecd-rootfs for building core18 arm64 images 16:07 * Adding pi3-arm64 to cdimage 16:07 * Coordinating stable snap releases for .2 16:07 - Testing ubuntu-image 1.6 snap for stable promotion 16:07 - raspi3 classic: 16:07 * Sponsoring various bugfix uploads for Dave 16:07 * Investigating ways to deal with raspi3-firmware and config.txt upgrades 16:07 - Changed core18 snap-rebuild script to only rebuild core18 if ubuntu-base package contents change 16:07 - Started work on old-releases-archival helper tool for cdimage 16:07 - Drafted some work on core18 promotion script 16:07 (done) 16:07 Short week: half-days last week, openjdk workshop on Monday 16:07 * openjdk-11 transition 16:07 - new ppas with -security only deps 16:07 - cherry-picking package versions to backport 16:07 - testing gradle/groovy toolchains with openjdk-lts and -security only 16:07 - re-checking rebuilds; number packages: 16:07 * 65 disco, 172 bionic, 262 from test-bionic 16:07 * limited to packages listed in openjdk-11 SRU exception/FFe request 16:07 - openjdk 11 transition meetings 16:07 Other: 16:08 * off next week in Malta, will drop in for some transition work 16:08 * fighting off the fosdem flu 16:08 (done) 16:08 tdaitx: where is this list about the rebuilds? 16:08 vorlon: Where is this grub2/ucf MP? 16:09 * cjwatson fails to find it on https://code.launchpad.net/~vorlon/+activereviews 16:09 https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/grub/+git/ubuntu/+merge/362869 16:09 doko: grepping through the newer csv files, filtering through failures, and matching according the the packages we asked for exception 16:09 nack :P 16:09 (thanks) 16:10 cjwatson: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/grub/+git/ubuntu/+merge/362869 16:10 ah 16:10 nak again, I guess 16:10 I'm thinking this was a TCP exchange rather than a review 16:10 Yes, I already fixed this in Debian with much thought, you should just cherry-pick 16:10 i squinted at it 16:10 ah 16:10 doko: I just counted how many packages, still going through the list for each rebuild, don't necessarily mean they are openjdk related 16:11 tdaitx: please update the spreadsheet 16:11 I'm fairly certain that MP will make matters even more confusing :) 16:12 anything else re: status? 16:12 I was kind of inching towards not merging these things at all if it could be avoided 16:12 ie. we write the config once, and if you're unhappy about timeout, well, change it 16:12 cyphermox: nack :P 16:13 (at least as far as timeout is involved, other things might need merging) 16:13 well, timeout perhaps 16:13 but it's not timeout that prompted the server team's attention 16:13 timeout is currently THE thing that comes from debconf :) 16:13 no, I know 16:13 I'm pretty sure that https://salsa.debian.org/grub-team/grub/commit/e4e7c3fae0fe7682f4c1215daeb6830716eb1b58 is correct; I spent a couple of days going over every case I could think of and verifying behaviour. 16:13 but my point is like that, you essentially write /etc/default/grub once, and not touch it again 16:13 yeah, nack 16:13 Please can you just resync with Debian because the divergence is getting out of hand? 16:14 cjwatson: yes 16:15 [TOPIC] Bugs 16:15 bdmurray: 16:15 should we target bug 1814109? 16:15 bug 1814109 in libarchive (Ubuntu) "Nautilus corrupts 7z archive files when extracting via 'Extract here' context menu" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1814109 16:17 bdmurray: seems like an upstream issue that we're unlikely to fix ourselves, but might as well target it 16:17 okay, doing so 16:18 I ran across bug 1797335 again, does anybody know the status of it? 16:18 bug 1797335 in glibc (Ubuntu) "strstr() on ubuntu18.04 8 times slower than on ubuntu16" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1797335 16:19 well, I think we are waiting on the glibc SRU ... 16:20 that's in proposed now, no? 16:20 I think that one's in -proposed already 16:20 infinity might know 16:20 STS/SEG uploaded, no? 16:20 It is 16:20 Along with binutils 16:20 there is a glibc SRU in flight AIUI 16:20 So the bug didn't get referenced then? 16:20 It's full of ADT regressions though, hope someone tracks those 16:20 Okay, I'll dig into it. 16:20 but that bug lacks an SRU template, so 16:20 hmmm 16:20 it has https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc/+bug/1663280 referenced 16:20 Launchpad bug 1663280 in glibc (Ubuntu Xenial) "Serious performance degradation of math functions" [High,Fix committed] 16:21 so maybe that's something else, no?! 16:21 Oh 16:21 or under referenced? 16:21 or a duplicated, no? 16:21 it's different 16:21 but similar 16:22 Okay, thanks 16:22 similifferent 16:22 Indeed, ugh 16:22 That's it for rls- stuff. I tested bug 1805027 again w/ the systemd SRU and it seems fine to me. 16:22 bug 1805027 in systemd (Ubuntu) "systemd-resolved can't resolve Comcast mail server addresses" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1805027 16:22 * sil2100 needs to actually open the bugs before commenting on them 16:22 Should I just mark it as a duplicate of bug 1811471? 16:22 bug 1811471 in systemd "local resolver stub fails to handle multiple TCP dns queries" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1811471 16:23 if that's fixed now, yes 16:23 it should be, i think 16:23 do we need to hurry through publication of a systemd SRU then before it gets stomped on by security? 16:23 and SRUs are done across the board 16:23 Well none of the original reporters have said anything... 16:23 vorlon, all systemd srus are published 16:23 xnox: ok. any more pending? :) 16:25 that's it for me 16:25 [TOPIC] proposed-migration 16:25 [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/disco/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs 16:25 doko: ? 16:26 so like 16:26 vorlon, bdmurray - not sure why SEG/STS did not upload https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/systemd/+bug/1755863 16:26 Launchpad bug 1755863 in systemd (Ubuntu Cosmic) "netbooting the bionic live CD over NFS goes straight to maintenance mode :" [Medium,In progress] 16:26 or should we, for the point release 16:26 as that fixes the ubiquity NFS installer 16:26 ddstreet, ^ 16:26 the ubiquity nfs installer that we don't support? 16:27 no more bugs for point release 16:27 bug fixes, that is 16:27 bugs or fixes? 16:29 no bug fixes which may lead to bugs 16:29 and no bugs too 16:29 doko: do you think we need to discuss the packages currently in? the list of blocked packages is fairly short, and I understand the causes of each 16:30 I don't know what we're doing about the failing kernel package autopkgtests 16:30 vorlon, I think the only one is pillow/libimagequant0 16:30 i did raise that question with the kernel team 16:30 gaughen: that's an MIR waiting for security review 16:30 i believe we overtrigger tests 16:30 xnox: disagree; we deliberately care to know if the toolchain regresses the kernel 16:30 because their test-suite runtime dependencies, are not in indication that runtime packages are regressing the new kernel 16:30 kewl 16:31 but the autopkgtests do not give good signal and I don't know who's owning this 16:31 vorlon, sure, but we don't care about running their java testsuite and seeing regression of those, upon non-toolchain uploads. 16:31 overtriggering should not be a problem if the tests are good tests 16:31 the tests are good, but always run from -proposed 16:31 so we never have good SRU migration signals either. 16:31 right, so to me that's not good 16:32 so do we need to get the kernel team to fix the tests to skip based on the triggers listed in the environment? 16:34 [ACTION] vorlon to follow up w/ apw 16:34 * meetingology vorlon to follow up w/ apw 16:34 [ACTION] vorlon to follow up w/ apw about kernel autopkgtests blocking the world 16:34 * meetingology vorlon to follow up w/ apw about kernel autopkgtests blocking the world 16:34 vorlon, let me forward you on the email thread i had with kernel-team 16:35 vorlon: no, nothing important now 16:35 ok 16:35 [TOPIC] AOBB 16:35 [TOPIC] AOB 16:35 anything else? 16:35 vorlon, doko reached out to apw, let me rope you in 16:40 doesn't sound like there's anything else 16:40 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)