16:01 <vorlon> #startmeeting
16:01 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Jan 31 16:01:49 2019 UTC.  The chair is vorlon. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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16:02 <vorlon> [TOPIC] Lightning round
16:02 <vorlon> echo $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity cyphermox mwhudson juliank waveform)
16:02 <vorlon> well that's no good
16:02 <vorlon> vorlon xnox cyphermox doko waveform sil2100 rbalint tdaitx bdmurray mwhudson juliank infinity
16:02 <xnox> ha
16:02 <xnox> i'm ready for once to be at the start =)
16:03 <juliank> but slow please
16:03 <juliank> :)
16:03 <xnox> hahahhahha
16:03 <vorlon> * long time, no see!
16:03 <vorlon> * two weeks ago: roadmap sprint in Cape Town
16:03 <vorlon> * last week: traveling back Monday; off Tue-Fri
16:03 <vorlon> * which means I was spending time on the readline transition and nodejs
16:03 <vorlon> * this week:
16:03 <vorlon> * Ubuntu Core 20 stratemagizing
16:03 <vorlon> * Secure Boot discussions w/ partner
16:03 <vorlon> * proposed-migration transitions
16:03 <vorlon> * 18.04.2 is next week, a little bit of kibbitzing to go with it
16:03 <vorlon> (done)
16:03 <vorlon> xnox:
16:03 <xnox> * systemd v240 in disco-proposed
16:03 <xnox> - more adt tests fixes/hunting
16:03 <xnox> - filed lxd/apparmor issue (thanks for rbasak report)
16:03 <xnox> - which lxd team has fixed, will be releasing
16:03 <xnox> * ubuiquity sru for .2 release
16:03 <xnox> - uploaded, verified, and released
16:03 <xnox> * proposed migration
16:03 <bdmurray> juliank: the key is to ask questions
16:03 <xnox> - working on unblocking systemd
16:03 <xnox> - also fixed up git migration blockers
16:03 <xnox> * powerpc
16:03 <xnox> - valgrind bugfix
16:03 <xnox> * s390x
16:03 <xnox> - s390-tools SRUs for xenial & cosmic in unapproved
16:03 <xnox> * prepering slides for the systemd-resolved talk for fosdem
16:03 <xnox> * off to FOSDEM tomorrow, through sunday
16:04 <xnox> (done)
16:04 <cyphermox> - started attending UEFI Spec Working Group weekly call
16:04 <cyphermox> - e2fsprogs: SRU for corruption when resizing (bug LP: #1798562)
16:04 <cyphermox> - debugging/questions in #netplan
16:04 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1798562 in e2fsprogs (Ubuntu Cosmic) "After a side by side installation, resized filesystem is corrupted" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1798562
16:04 <cyphermox> - various SRU verifications for grub (trusty, bionic, cosmic)
16:04 <cyphermox> - Secure Boot: DKMS/shim SRUs for trusty/xenial, preparing GRUB SRU for SB enforcing on bionic
16:04 <cyphermox> - partman-efi: improve catching of missing ESP early in installer (bionic)
16:04 <cyphermox> - ubiquity: merge bind-mount for efivars (waiting to rebuild with partman-efi as well)
16:04 <cyphermox> (done)
16:04 <bdmurray> doko:
16:05 <doko> - handling -proposed ...
16:05 <doko> - isolated and forwarded three more GCC issues upstream
16:05 <doko> - GCC 7 & GCC 8 updates
16:05 <doko> - having fun with the new laptop, crashing when the screen blanks :-/
16:05 <doko> (done)
16:05 <bdmurray> waveform:
16:05 <waveform> * Back-porting arm64 fix to gpiozero (now applied upstream)
16:05 <doko> ohh, and getting binutils ready for disco ...
16:05 <waveform> * WiringPi packaging ongoing (got something that builds and works locally, but not in a PPA ...)
16:05 <waveform> * Investigating regressions caused by python3-numpy (something's changed in matmul?)
16:05 <waveform> * Got Pi3 builds working locally (yay!) but not booting (boo!) - missing kernel+initrd in boot partition
16:05 <waveform> * U-boot has received a stay of execution on Pi
16:05 <waveform> * Testing images (including armhf) on various Pis (2B, 3B, 3B+, CM3)
16:05 <waveform> * RPi.GPIO packaging done - poke sil2100 for sponsorship :)
16:06 <waveform> (done)
16:06 <xnox> doko, eewww what laptop is it?
16:06 <juliank> ok we can go faster now
16:06 <sil2100> waveform: I confirmed that the daily-built images boot so I guess it was something busted in the local live-build run, let's debug it later ;p
16:06 <bdmurray> also poke sil2100 since its his turn
16:06 <sil2100> - SRU reviews and releases
16:06 <sil2100> - raspi3 'upstreaming':
16:06 <sil2100> * Removing unneeded files from linux-firmware-raspi2 and re-releasing
16:06 <sil2100> * Validating current state of arm64 raspi3 images, sending images to CE
16:06 <waveform> sil2100, yup - sorry! :)
16:06 <sil2100> * Creating future-work cards for missing pi3 work
16:06 <sil2100> * Fixed build-ability of the classic gadget tree with snapcraft
16:06 <sil2100> * Added full-cross-compilation support to the gadget tree with snapcraft
16:06 <sil2100> * Discussed the road forward with pi3 support
16:06 <sil2100> - core18 code reviews
16:06 <sil2100> - Verifying pl langpacks
16:06 <sil2100> - Release of 18.04.2 verified langpacks
16:06 <sil2100> - Fixed libdbusmenu and libidn FTBFS in bionic
16:06 <sil2100> - Tested core18 pi3 arm64 gadget snap locally, sent for CE testing
16:06 <sil2100> - Prepared json blob for signing, waiting for naming consensus
16:06 <sil2100> - Investigated Bileto autopkgtest test-result reporting not working due to cache invalidation
16:07 <sil2100> (done)
16:07 <tdaitx> rbalint is out right?
16:07 <bdmurray> tdaitx: yes
16:07 <tdaitx> Short week: working half-days
16:07 <tdaitx> * openjdk-11 transition
16:07 <tdaitx> - documenting the approach & timeline
16:07 <tdaitx> - transition will include backports into bionic-security so rechecking for additional backports
16:07 <tdaitx> - triaging failed rebuilds and testing fixes
16:07 <tdaitx> * ongoing openjdk-8 update to 8u201
16:07 <tdaitx> - merge conflicts after m4 autoconf files were updated upstream
16:07 <tdaitx> - massaging autopkgtest scripts to fail only on _regressions_
16:07 <tdaitx> Other:
16:07 <tdaitx> - flying tomorrow afternoon to Brussels
16:07 <tdaitx> - at FOSDEM during the weekend
16:07 <tdaitx> - at OpenJDK workshop on Monday
16:07 <tdaitx> - taking a train to Stuttgart Tuesday afternoon (hopefully it will have a working internet connection)
16:07 <tdaitx> (done)
16:08 <bdmurray> modifications to ET mojo spec to use autocert (still in progress)
16:08 <doko> German trains and working internet, hahahahha ...
16:08 <bdmurray> wrote a blog post about PPAs and upgrading releases of Ubuntu
16:08 <bdmurray> replaced kernel bug triage contact person in bugbot scripts
16:08 <bdmurray> uploaded a fix for apport-symptoms gnome-session bug LP: #1813428
16:08 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1813428 in apport-symptoms (Ubuntu) ""sorry, you are not running GNOME or KDE" while running GNOME" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1813428
16:08 <bdmurray> review of bugs tagged rls-bb-incoming
16:08 <bdmurray> submitted ubiquity MP re not logging "Ecryptfs is deprecated" in every bug
16:08 <bdmurray> special SRU reviews for sil2100
16:08 <juliank> doko: worked for me
16:08 <bdmurray> ✔ done
16:08 <bdmurray> juliank:
16:08 <juliank> oh, is it already my time?
16:09 <sil2100> bdmurray: thanks again for those!
16:09 <juliank> * apt SRUs
16:09 <juliank> * gnupg2 autopkgtest replacement
16:09 <bdmurray> you'd said to go fast now
16:09 <juliank> * networkd-dispatcher bug 1787495
16:09 <ubottu> bug 1787495 in networkd-dispatcher (Ubuntu Cosmic) "no explanation for the events in the networkd-dispatcher manpage" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1787495
16:09 <juliank> * apt hardening
16:09 <juliank> * apt merge request reviewing and merging (thanks mvo for json hook EPIPE fix)
16:09 <juliank> * hddemux 0.4-7ubuntu0.1 SRU for bug 1814062
16:09 <ubottu> bug 1814062 in hddemux (Ubuntu Cosmic) "Failing autopkgtest on cosmic" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1814062
16:09 <juliank> (done)
16:09 * juliank almost pastged in #ubuntu-installer
16:09 <juliank> doko: ok, the on-board wifi is crap, but luckily I had lte :)
16:10 <bdmurray> infinity doesn't seem to be in here
16:12 <bdmurray> vorlon: what's next on the agenda? there was some discussion at the last minute about what the agenda should really be
16:13 <bdmurray> s/minute/meeting/
16:14 <vorlon> ok, what was the outcome of that discussion?
16:14 <vorlon> [TOPIC] Bugs
16:14 <bdmurray> well doko wanted to add a whole bunch of stuff
16:15 <doko> bdmurray: don't you see the rls-bb-incoming bugs?
16:15 <bdmurray> doko: ?
16:15 <doko> LINK: https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
16:15 <vorlon> doko: can you email the foundations list with any proposed additions to the agendas so that there's a paper trail?
16:16 <doko> didn't we agree on that already two weeks ago?
16:16 <vorlon> agree on what?
16:16 <vorlon> I wasn't here 2 weeks ago so I don't know what was agreed
16:16 <doko> to walk over https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
16:16 <doko> every week
16:17 <vorlon> ok; the current topic is bugs. bdmurray ?
16:17 <bdmurray> bug 1772222
16:17 <ubottu> bug 1772222 in rsyslog (Ubuntu Bionic) "dangling symlink in /etc/rsyslog.d breaks rsyslogd" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1772222
16:17 <xnox> that bug number is ugly
16:17 <bdmurray> I found that when I was reviewing the rls-bb-incoming bugs
16:17 <bdmurray> xnox: 4 of a kind!
16:18 <vorlon> bdmurray: throw it to the backlog?
16:18 <vorlon> rather, I will
16:18 <bdmurray> Is that conjure-up's fault though?
16:19 <bdmurray> vorlon: ack, thanks
16:19 <vorlon> I think it's rsyslog's fault that it breaks under these conditions
16:19 <xnox> bdmurray, both.
16:19 <xnox> bdmurray, conjure-up should have cleaned up its mess; and rsyslog should be more resiliant
16:19 <vorlon> card created
16:19 <vorlon> bdmurray: next?
16:20 <bdmurray> okay, moving on bug 1766102 - adam targetted it to bionic and I wonder if it really should be
16:20 <ubottu> bug 1766102 in debhelper (Ubuntu Bionic) "dh_installchangelogs fails if version is 0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1766102
16:20 <bdmurray> or rather should we tag it notfixing
16:21 <vorlon> bdmurray: agreed, notfixing
16:22 <vorlon> if infinity has another reason to think it should be SRUed, he can follow up
16:22 <bdmurray> juliank: you seemed to have some idea about bug 1801629. Should it be fixed in ubiquity?
16:22 <ubottu> bug 1801629 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Disco) "xubuntu-core needs to depend on cryptsetup and lvm2 or 'apt autoremove' will make a LUKS+LVM encrypted root partition non-bootable" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1801629
16:23 <juliank> bdmurray: yes, it should
16:23 <juliank> bdmurray: it's just a matter of running the command from the comment in the installed system after having done all package changes
16:23 <cyphermox> so they dropped relevant deps from their seed?
16:23 <vorlon> no, we changed the behavior of autoremoval
16:23 <juliank> cyphermox: the problem is that my "manually installed" minimization script runs on the "live" image
16:24 <cyphermox> ah, right
16:24 <juliank> it marks the packages as auto that are reachable from a metapackage
16:24 <vorlon> juliank: are you on track to fix that for 18.04.2, given the bug targeting?
16:24 <vorlon> (upload deadline: yesterday or so)
16:24 <juliank> and cryptsetup and friend are recommended for that
16:25 <juliank> vorlon: I have no idea of ubiquity code, so maybe someone else wants to take that over
16:25 <juliank> vorlon: ah, but this only affects 18.10, not 18.04
16:25 <bdmurray> oh, well then that makes things easier
16:25 <juliank> except for the OEM image which seems to do its own thing
16:27 <vorlon> oh, ok
16:27 <vorlon> moving on then?
16:28 <juliank> guess so
16:28 <bdmurray> what actions should we take on that? card it for disco, won't fix for cosmic and something else for oem?
16:28 <juliank> there is a card for it in committed, it might want to go the the backlog
16:29 <juliank> I pulled it into in progress for analysing
16:29 <juliank> I might keep it open for cosmic in case we do a respin for apt
16:31 <vorlon> so it sounds to me like everything that needs doing is done
16:32 <bdmurray> okay, then bug 1811695 - juliank do you have an opinion on what update-manager / aptdaemon should be doing here?
16:32 <ubottu> bug 1811695 in update-manager (Ubuntu Disco) "/usr/bin/update-manager:RuntimeError(org.freedesktop.DBus.Python.RuntimeError):_on_clicked:_deferable:_convert_dbus_exception:_convert_dbus_exception:cancel:__call__:call_blocking:wait_for_lock:acquire:acquire:_inline_callbacks:get_uid_from_dbus_name:return_value:_inline_callbacks:_cancel:_inline_callbacks" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1811695
16:33 <juliank> that's a long title
16:33 <juliank> am
16:33 <juliank> um
16:33 <juliank> wait and retry
16:34 <juliank> kind of similar to what mvo had in mind for apt: https://salsa.debian.org/apt-team/apt/merge_requests/6
16:34 <juliank> "apt: retry acquire the cache if it is already locked for 120s"
16:34 <juliank> in any case, that should not be a new bug
16:35 <gaughen> vorlon, cyphermox has a wiki page, I think, for running this meeting - could we move to using that consistently?  then if we all agree to add a topic, we can just update that
16:35 <bdmurray> juliank: you mean not new for disco?
16:35 <juliank> yeah, that sounds like a generic thing
16:35 <vorlon> gaughen: ok, no one has told me where this wiki page is :)
16:35 <bdmurray> juliank: okay, I'll look for previous ones
16:35 <bdmurray> vorlon: that's because he's making it right now
16:36 <cyphermox> not wiki
16:36 <cyphermox> http://people.ubuntu.com/~cyphermox/meetings/foundations.html
16:36 <bdmurray> since gaughen called him out ;-)
16:36 <gaughen> close enough.. I almost said a wiki-like-thng
16:36 <gaughen> thing
16:36 <juliank> bdmurray: could also pop up a diaalog saying "Busy, try again later" or something I guess
16:36 <vorlon> not editable
16:36 <vorlon> cyphermox: can you move it to the wiki? :)
16:36 <cyphermox> nope.
16:36 <vorlon> ok
16:36 <vorlon> my browser can't read people.u.c
16:36 <cyphermox> because there's javascript in there, to shuffle
16:36 <vorlon> I guess we'll never know what it says
16:36 <vorlon> heh
16:36 <cyphermox> :)
16:37 <cyphermox> your browser can't p.u.c?
16:37 <bdmurray> juliank: oky, thanks
16:37 <vorlon> cyphermox: yes, it's difficult that way
16:37 <cyphermox> "what a p.o.s" ;)
16:37 <vorlon> it protects me from viewing sites that people won't let me edit
16:37 <cyphermox> hahaha
16:38 <xnox> win
16:38 <vorlon> bdmurray: any more on bugs?
16:38 <cyphermox> point is, it could sure be elsewhere than specifically there
16:38 <bdmurray> If I can't fix it, I don't want to see it.
16:38 <cyphermox> I'm sure we could have a ~foundations or something so everyone could modify.
16:38 <bdmurray> vorlon: nope, not today
16:38 <vorlon> ok
16:39 <bdmurray> everyone could modify but vorlon couldn't see?
16:39 <juliank> I can't even ssh into those servers as me I think
16:39 <vorlon> [TOPIC] Team proposed-migration report
16:40 <vorlon> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
16:40 <vorlon> doko: is this your topic to drive?
16:41 <juliank> (it should be...)
16:41 <doko> I can, ...
16:41 <xnox> systemd is in a better shape now, but still not migratable yet
16:41 <juliank> doko is our excuses wizard, right?
16:41 <doko> things to look at: spice
16:41 <xnox> and juliank was doing gnupg stuff, no?
16:41 <doko> enigmail
16:41 <doko> heat-dashboard
16:41 <juliank> xnox: yeah, I replaced the autopkgtest
16:41 <vorlon> I'm confused by spice, because lz4 didn't previously list it as a blocker
16:41 <doko> lintian ftbfs
16:42 <doko> buls
16:42 <vorlon> ah spice has a new version in -proposed that passed for the first time
16:42 <doko> vuls even
16:42 <doko> xnox: gnupg2 is fixed?
16:42 <vorlon> so we can badtest && rerun the test with all-proposed (doing)
16:42 <juliank> vorlon: that is annoying
16:42 <vorlon> that leaves systemd as the lz4 blocker
16:42 <juliank> doko: yes, gnupg2 is fixed
16:42 <juliank> need to retrigger
16:42 <xnox> hmmmm heat-dashboard & horizon is like jamespage and/or his friends?
16:43 <xnox> maybe coreycb
16:43 <vorlon> xnox: if we rerun systemd autopkgtests for lz4 with all-proposed are they going to pass now?
16:43 <xnox> vorlon, yes v239 is broken for lz4, v240 is fixed for lz4
16:43 <xnox> vorlon, but there are other systemd regressions in v240
16:43 <xnox> vorlon, it is safe to release lz4 without systemd
16:43 <doko> juliank: can you do that?
16:43 <juliank> yes
16:43 <vorlon> xnox: ok, will override
16:43 <xnox> vorlon, the systemd test suite was "lets test a bug in lz4, yeah, still there" but now 'lz4 is fixed and not buggy'
16:43 <coreycb> xnox: yes heat-dashboard & horizon are ours
16:44 <xnox> coreycb, please fix them =) or pester people. they look hot on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
16:44 <xnox> coreycb, well ubuntu-openstack portion of the report
16:44 <vorlon> xnox: this will of course make systemd autopkgtests fail consistently in devel, but that's more or less status quo
16:44 <xnox> vorlon, yes!
16:44 <coreycb> xnox: will do
16:44 <vorlon> ok, hinted
16:45 <doko> juliank: gnupg2 triggers some failing tests itself
16:45 <sil2100> I could try looking at heat-dashboard I guess?
16:45 <sil2100> Ah, coreycb is on it
16:46 <sil2100> Goooood
16:46 <sil2100> ;)
16:46 <juliank> doko: meh, there are no changes in gnupg outside debian/tests
16:47 <xnox> vorlon, ah, looks there is upstream progress https://github.com/kapouer/marked-man/issues/19
16:47 <juliank> xnox: The user named '~xnox' has no PPA named 'ubuntu/nonvirt'
16:47 <vorlon> xnox: huzzah
16:47 <juliank> xnox: failing software-properties test case
16:47 <xnox> juliank, that one is dangerous!
16:47 <xnox> no no that's different!
16:48 <juliank> xnox: https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-disco/disco/armhf/s/software-properties/20190130_180736_23562@/log.gz
16:48 <juliank> xnox: but only one failure, that's odd
16:49 <vorlon> xnox: are you taking an action to follow up w/ coreycb and jamespage on heat-dashboard, horizon?
16:49 <vorlon> oh, coreycb already replied, sorry ;)
16:49 <juliank> xnox: it's working on the test after
16:50 <xnox> add-apt-repository ppa:xnox/nonvirt --yes --no-update
16:50 <vorlon> doko: you seem to have skipped over pillow in your list; perhaps you know the status but I don't
16:50 <xnox> i'll work on software-properties adt
16:51 <doko> vorlon: mir pending security review
16:51 <vorlon> ok
16:51 <xnox> $ lxc launch ubuntu-daily:disco
16:51 <xnox> cannot read mount namespace identifier of pid 1: Permission denied
16:52 <vorlon> doko: and do you know anything about lintian's ftbfs? "file-references-package-build-path" unexpected output, seems like a toolchain behavior difference vs Debian
16:52 <doko> no, didn't look yet
16:52 <vorlon> ok
16:53 <vorlon> sounds like we've identified next steps on a reasonable chunk of these, and the queue is definitely coming don
16:53 <vorlon> down
16:53 <vorlon> so I'm happy with that
16:53 <vorlon> doko: anything further to discuss?
16:54 * xnox is afk
16:55 <coreycb> xnox: fyi  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-django-debreach/+bug/1805690  will unblock horizon. it has a security team ack now.
16:55 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1805690 in python-django-debreach (Ubuntu) "[MIR] python-django-debreach" [Undecided,Confirmed]
16:55 <doko> no, the other stuff is still grayed out ...
16:55 <vorlon> ok
16:55 <juliank> vorlon, doko is that https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=920536?
16:55 <vorlon> [TOPIC] AOB
16:55 <ubottu> Debian bug 920536 in src:lintian "lintian: fails to build because of test failure" [Serious,Open]
16:55 <juliank> Fix FTBFS by avoiding "self" false-positives when checking for file-references-package-build-path in the Lintian test suite. (Closes: #920536)
16:55 <vorlon> juliank: yes; so how about if I just remove the package from -proposed and wait for Debian to fix it (thanks)
16:56 <vorlon> anything else?
16:56 <cyphermox> yep
16:56 <cyphermox> I'll put the meeting stuff on the wiki under FoundationsTeam/
16:56 <cyphermox> vorlon: that way we can edit
16:56 <bdmurray> There's a FoundationsTam wiki?
16:56 <cyphermox> there is
16:56 <cyphermox> it's old
16:56 <bdmurray> older than us?
16:56 <cyphermox> yeah
16:57 <sil2100> Older than the world
16:57 <cyphermox> I mean. *SO* old
16:57 * xnox back
16:57 <vorlon> cyphermox: ta
16:57 <xnox> coreycb, tah
16:57 <vorlon> cyphermox: share the exact link once it exists?
16:57 <cyphermox> I guess take the opportunity to update the wiki page Members section if you want, too
16:57 <vorlon> (or declare it now, before it exists :)
16:57 <cyphermox> vorlon: yup
16:58 <cyphermox> MeetingScript
16:58 <cyphermox> whatever.
16:58 <vorlon> ok
16:58 <vorlon> #endmeeting