== Meeting information == * #ubuntu-meeting: LoCoCouncil 2017-12-11, 11 Dec at 20:07 — 21:09 UTC * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-12-11-20.07.log.html]] == Meeting summary == === AZLOCOTeam === The discussion about "AZLOCOTeam" started at 20:11. * ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArizonaTeam/Re-validationApplication2017 * ''Vote:'' AZLOCOTeam re-verification (Carried) === MyanmarTeam === The discussion about "MyanmarTeam" started at 20:18. * ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MyanmarTeam/VerificationApplication2017 * ''Vote:'' MyanmarTeam Two month extension (Carried) === VenezuelaTeam === The discussion about "VenezuelaTeam" started at 20:25. * ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VenezuelaTeam/Re-validationApplication2017 * ''Vote:'' VenezuelaTeam (Carried) === Ubuntu Tunisia === The discussion about "Ubuntu Tunisia" started at 20:34. * ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TunisianTeam/ReVerificationApplication2017 * ''Vote:'' Ubuntu Tunisia Two month extension (Carried) === Ubuntu Portugal === The discussion about "Ubuntu Portugal" started at 20:48. * ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PortugalTeam/Re-validationApplication2017 * ''Vote:'' Ubuntu Portugal (Carried) === SwissTeam === The discussion about "SwissTeam" started at 20:56. * ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwissTeam/ReVerificationApplication2017 === SwissTeam Two month extension === The discussion about "SwissTeam Two month extension" started at 21:01. * ''Vote:'' SwissTeam Two month extension (Carried) === any other business? === The discussion about "any other business?" started at 21:03. == Vote results == * [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-12-11-20.07.log.html#286 Ubuntu Portugal]] * Motion carried (For/Against/Abstained 5/0/1) * Voters svij, kyrofa, Letozaf_, kenvandine, gsilvapt, nhaines * [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-12-11-20.07.log.html#38 AZLOCOTeam re-verification]] * Motion carried (For/Against/Abstained 6/0/0) * Voters svij, kyrofa, Letozaf_, kenvandine, gsilvapt, nhaines * [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-12-11-20.07.log.html#141 VenezuelaTeam]] * Motion carried (For/Against/Abstained 6/0/0) * Voters svij, kyrofa, Letozaf_, nhaines, gsilvapt, kenvandine * [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-12-11-20.07.log.html#348 SwissTeam Two month extension]] * Motion carried (For/Against/Abstained 6/0/0) * Voters svij, kyrofa, Letozaf_, kenvandine, gsilvapt, nhaines * [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-12-11-20.07.log.html#222 Ubuntu Tunisia Two month extension]] * Motion carried (For/Against/Abstained 6/0/0) * Voters svij, kyrofa, Letozaf_, kenvandine, gsilvapt, nhaines * [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-12-11-20.07.log.html#93 MyanmarTeam Two month extension]] * Motion carried (For/Against/Abstained 6/0/0) * Voters svij, kyrofa, Letozaf_, kenvandine, gsilvapt, nhaines == Done items == * (none) == People present (lines said) == * kenvandine (112) * meetingology (73) * kyrofa (44) * nhaines (42) * gsilvapt (39) * svij (32) * tcarrondo (18) * Letozaf_ (16) * tiagopolicarpopt (7) * DiogoC (6) * MajB (4) * x3mboy (4) * Naudy (3) * pavlos (2) * elmudometal (2) == Full Log == 20:07 #startmeeting LoCoCouncil 2017-12-11 20:07 Meeting started Mon Dec 11 20:07:51 2017 UTC. The chair is kenvandine. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 20:07 20:07 Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 20:08 council members please wave to record attendance 20:08 * kenvandine waves 20:08 * svij waves 20:08 * gsilvapt waves 20:08 * Letozaf_ waves 20:08 * kyrofa waves 20:09 just missing nhaines 20:09 FYI, I'm creating the minute page for this meeting. I'll take a previous sample and modify as we need and require. 20:09 gsilvapt, thx 20:10 anyone know what we need for a quorum? 20:10 i'd imagine we have enough 20:10 I guess so 20:10 more than 50% :) 20:11 * nhaines waves 20:11 yay! 20:11 100% attendance! 20:11 ok... shall we move on to the re-verifications? 20:11 Yes 20:11 #topic AZLOCOTeam 20:11 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArizonaTeam/Re-validationApplication2017 20:12 anyone here to represent AZLOCOTeam? 20:12 I'm here 20:12 I am here from the AZLOCO Team 20:13 the re-verification wiki page looks very thorough and kudos for being so active! 20:13 Thank you 20:13 It looks like you've continued your great work this year. 20:14 does anyone have questions for AZLOCO? 20:15 no questions from me, looks good :) 20:15 Indeed, no question here either 20:15 I think things are pretty straightforward. No questions from me. 20:15 ok for me too 20:16 i guess we should vote 20:16 Yeap. I like their page and although the roadmap is ambitious, they have some members in their group so they are up for it 20:16 #vote AZLOCOTeam re-verification 20:16 Please vote on: AZLOCOTeam re-verification 20:16 Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) 20:16 +1 20:16 +1 received from svij 20:16 +1 20:16 +1 received from gsilvapt 20:16 +1 20:16 +1 received from kenvandine 20:16 +1 20:16 +1 received from kyrofa 20:16 +1 20:16 +1 received from Letozaf_ 20:16 +1 Good job, AZ team :) 20:16 +1 Good job, AZ team :) received from nhaines 20:17 #endvote 20:17 Voting ended on: AZLOCOTeam re-verification 20:17 Votes for:6 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 20:17 Motion carried 20:17 congrats :) 20:17 thank you all 20:17 thanks for the great work! 20:17 Thank you LoCo Council 20:18 pavlos, MajB thank you for all your good work, and for attending today 20:18 Thank you for your service to the Ubuntu community. :) 20:18 #topic MyanmarTeam 20:18 anyone here to represent MyanmarTeam? 20:19 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MyanmarTeam/VerificationApplication2017 20:20 I'm afraid this loco looks relatively inactive to me 20:21 It does seem like outward events have dropped off sharply since the last two years. 20:21 Most recent event listed in the verification app is 2016, and most recent post on the website seems to be for 16.10 20:21 yeah, that concerned me as well 20:21 I was reading their page a few hours ago and it feels they are inactive since 2016. At least according to the provided information. I'd suggest they work up their page and/or show some activity and apply again in some time 20:21 Flickr shows a 17.10 release party, though 20:21 I agre with gsilvapt 20:21 Looks like they have a community, but it needs more leadership 20:22 s/provided information/information provided 20:22 I'm sure there is leadership, but I'd like to see more information about their recent activities and their roadmap for thefuture. I suspect that the application is simply incomplete. 20:22 so do we vote? or ask them to get added to the agenda when someone can be here? 20:23 I'd like to extend their verification provisionally and request more information from them for the next meeting. 20:23 +1 with nhaines 20:23 +1 20:23 +1 from me as well 20:23 should we do a vote to extend 2 months? 20:23 +1 20:23 lets vote on that, kenvandine 20:23 +1 20:23 Don't we meet once a month? 20:24 yeah, but thought with the holidy 20:24 Yes, but I think the idea is to give a few months so they have time to prepare their stuff 20:24 might be good to give them a little more time 20:24 Yeah, but it's all kinds of crazy holidays right now. 20:24 and there's that too 20:24 we are behind 20:24 Fair enough 20:24 #vote MyanmarTeam Two month extension 20:24 Please vote on: MyanmarTeam Two month extension 20:24 Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) 20:24 +1 20:24 +1 received from kyrofa 20:24 +1 20:24 +1 received from kenvandine 20:24 +1 20:24 +1 received from Letozaf_ 20:24 +1 20:24 +1 received from gsilvapt 20:24 +1 20:24 +1 received from svij 20:25 +1 Please improve the application and get back to us. :) 20:25 +1 Please improve the application and get back to us. :) received from nhaines 20:25 #endvote 20:25 Voting ended on: MyanmarTeam Two month extension 20:25 Votes for:6 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 20:25 Motion carried 20:25 #topic VenezuelaTeam 20:25 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VenezuelaTeam/Re-validationApplication2017 20:26 anyone here to represent VenezuelaTeam? 20:26 i am VenezuelaTeam 20:26 I'm here 20:27 I'm here too 20:27 hello! 20:28 hi guys :-) I had a look to your application and I honestly think it is a similar case to Arizona. Well structure, nothing to point out. Very ambitious Roadmap, seems ok with your member's numbers 20:28 s/structure/structured 20:28 I agree :) 20:28 It looks like you have a lot of momentum built up. 20:29 Yeah, easy review indeed 20:29 Hi again 20:29 indeed 20:29 I noticed that there were less events for 2017 than 2016. But it's still extremely impressive. Is there anything that lead to this that you're concerned about? 20:29 The only question I have is: Why didn't you guys renew your membership? 20:30 nhaines, there were like 100 in 2016. They probably got burnt out :D 20:30 hehe 20:31 he he 20:31 lets hope not :) 20:31 or... hope they feel refreshed 20:32 hi! still on time? 20:32 Problems with internet in Venezuela which have been many failures 20:32 kyrofa: They have nothing to be ashamed about for a strong 2017. I just want to get a feeling for how things are going. 20:32 Naudy: that would be a good reason! 20:32 agreed 20:33 sorry had a prolbem 20:33 shall we vote? 20:33 yup 20:33 #vote VenezuelaTeam 20:33 Please vote on: VenezuelaTeam 20:33 Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) 20:33 #voters kenvandine svij gsilvapt kyrofa Letozaf_ nhaines 20:33 Current voters: Letozaf_ gsilvapt kenvandine kyrofa nhaines svij 20:33 +1 20:33 +1 received from kyrofa 20:33 +1 20:33 +1 received from nhaines 20:33 +1 20:33 +1 received from gsilvapt 20:33 +1 20:33 +1 received from svij 20:33 +1 20:33 +1 received from kenvandine 20:33 +1 20:33 +1 received from Letozaf_ 20:33 I'm part of the loco team 20:33 #endvote 20:33 Voting ended on: VenezuelaTeam 20:33 Votes for:6 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 20:33 Motion carried 20:33 tiagopolicarpopt: venezuela not portugal ;) 20:33 congrats! 20:34 we're looking forward to what 2018 has in store! 20:34 Good job, Venezuela Team. Keep up the excellent work! 20:34 :D 20:34 Thz :D 20:34 #topic Ubuntu Tunisia 20:35 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TunisianTeam/ReVerificationApplication2017 20:35 Anyone here to represent Ubuntu Tunisia 20:35 congrats Venezuela! 20:35 Thanks 20:35 thanks to all 20:35 Keep it up, Venezuela! :) 20:35 Sorry i am on mobile web, i lost some messenger, svij 20:36 tiagopolicarpopt: no worries ;) 20:36 congrats Venezuela! 20:36 So, nobody from Tunisian LoCo? 20:37 their team reports page ends at 2015 20:37 This loco does not seem tremendously active, although their application indicates a fairly constant number of events per year, none of their other pages have been updated for years, and I see no website 20:37 My opinion is they are opting for an educating strategy to gain more members which seems plausible and I understand this problem some LoCos often experience. That said, they present an interesting roadmap and with focus on educating new people to Ubuntu and open source software. 20:38 I agree to gsilvapt 20:38 I also agree with gsilvapt. 20:38 there has been recent activity on their mailing list 20:38 their mailing lists looks aktive too 20:38 kenvandine was faster than me :) 20:39 Well, we do not have a representative here but they could use other means of communication 20:39 The loco verification page (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/TeamVerificationGuidelines) lists a website as an example of an established resource. Does the lack of one here seem concerning? 20:39 Still, they use the mailing list for topics related to the LoCo so I don't know whether the ML is their main form of communication or not 20:40 we don't know much about the irc channel though 20:40 but I see some of the ubuntu-tn people around in other channels 20:40 The entire sentence says more than that, kyrofa: This requires some evidence that the team has established various resources (website, mailing list, listing of activities on the LoCo Directory etc) 20:41 the wiki pages are quite out dated 20:41 Their Facebook pages seem at least semi-active (I don't use Facebook so I can't tell for sure). 20:41 They have done some presentations in 2017: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TunisianTeam/Presentations 20:41 gsilvapt, yes, I said "an example" :) 20:42 kyrofa, sorry. Wanted to clarify that part a bit as it did not concern me too much. However, it concerns me the fact they do not have their LoCo directory updated or with much activity 20:42 From my perspective, I see an application that is up-to-date but nothing else 20:42 kyrofa: but they have two webpages listed in the application. :) 20:42 yeah 20:42 although the mailing list is active 20:42 that's something 20:42 And they have clear plans for the future as well. 20:43 yeah, I guess we should advise them to update their pages 20:43 I'd vote positively as they are betting on educating new people. On the other hand, we could advise some general updates to their pages and keep an eye on their activity logs 20:43 Documenting their work will help their team and others as well. 20:43 True 20:43 Shall we vote? 20:44 i wonder if they have meetings? 20:44 kenvandine, according to their LoCo directory, not since 2013 but I hardly doubt this is an updated information 20:44 latest pictures is also 2013 20:44 but they did renew in 2015 20:45 shall we suggest they update the directory and some pages? 20:45 Ok, to be consistent that makes sense 20:45 or... just vote to re-verify or not? 20:45 Yes, I think that's important. And they seem to know it, according to their mailing list. 20:46 Yeah, I think they need to update stuff 20:46 they also use facebook, didn't check how active that is 20:46 not terribly 20:46 some current stuff 20:46 #vote Ubuntu Tunisia Two month extension 20:46 Please vote on: Ubuntu Tunisia Two month extension 20:46 Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) 20:46 #voters kenvandine svij gsilvapt kyrofa Letozaf_ nhaines 20:46 Current voters: Letozaf_ gsilvapt kenvandine kyrofa nhaines svij 20:46 +1 20:46 +1 received from gsilvapt 20:46 +1 20:46 +1 received from Letozaf_ 20:46 +1 20:46 +1 received from kenvandine 20:46 +1 20:46 +1 received from kyrofa 20:47 +1 20:47 +1 received from svij 20:47 +1 20:47 +1 received from nhaines 20:47 #endvote 20:47 Voting ended on: Ubuntu Tunisia Two month extension 20:47 Votes for:6 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 20:47 Motion carried 20:48 The next LoCo is my own LoCo. Should I abstain from voting? 20:48 #topic Ubuntu Portugal 20:48 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PortugalTeam/Re-validationApplication2017 20:48 Anyone here to represent Ubuntu Portugal 20:48 here! From Ericeira, Portugal :) 20:48 gsilvapt, not sure :) 20:49 hi, all 20:49 hey tcarrondo 20:49 me to, but tcarrondo is the representative 20:49 Thanks for being here. :) 20:49 too 20:49 familiar faces to the nicknames for me :) 20:49 hi, svij 20:50 Me too from portugal 20:50 and nhaines 20:50 all 20:50 :) 20:50 great representation! 20:50 says allot :) 20:50 I don' know how to mention here... 20:50 my bad 20:50 I have a question on the application: what is the difference between events "Organized by the LoCo" and "events where we participated" ? 20:51 I'll answer 20:51 some events we are "just" invited to participate 20:52 and give talks 20:52 This sounds very humble. Those still count as events! :) 20:52 but those events are not organized by the LoCo, 20:52 Ah ha-- so these lists need to be added together? 20:52 And it's a great way to get more exposure and give newer members experience without being overwhelming. 20:52 so we shouldn't get the organization credits for them 20:53 Yeah this is great 20:53 excellent application 20:53 thanks! 20:53 any more questions before we vote? 20:53 Do you have any specific plans or wishes for the team in 2018? 20:54 I hope for an UbuCon Europe 2019 ;) 20:54 Indeed. My only suggestion is to double check your wiki page, it looks a tad old. Make sure it's still relevant 20:54 No more questions from me 20:54 Ubucon 2019? don't ruin the surpise... 20:54 hahaha 20:54 Haha! 20:54 :D 20:55 wiki page? It should be done! thanks 20:55 #vote Ubuntu Portugal 20:55 Please vote on: Ubuntu Portugal 20:55 Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) 20:55 #voters kenvandine svij gsilvapt kyrofa Letozaf_ nhaines 20:55 Current voters: Letozaf_ gsilvapt kenvandine kyrofa nhaines svij 20:55 gsilvapt, I suggest you obstain, although I suspect it won't matter ;) 20:55 +1 20:55 +1 received from kenvandine 20:55 +1 20:55 +1 received from nhaines 20:55 +1 20:55 +1 received from svij 20:55 +1 20:55 +1 received from kyrofa 20:55 +1 20:55 +1 received from Letozaf_ 20:55 0 as it is my LoCo and this feel more adequate 20:55 0 as it is my LoCo and this feel more adequate received from gsilvapt 20:55 #endvote 20:55 Voting ended on: Ubuntu Portugal 20:55 Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:1 20:55 Motion carried 20:55 congrats! 20:55 congrats, keep up your good work :) 20:55 :) 20:55 and thanks for all the great work 20:55 Congratulations, and keep up the great work! :D 20:55 :) 20:55 Looking great guys, keep it up 20:55 thanks 20:55 Thank you guys ::) 20:55 Congrats 20:55 :) 20:56 thanks!! 20:56 #topic SwissTeam 20:56 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwissTeam/ReVerificationApplication2017 20:56 Anyone here to represent SwissTeam 20:56 Thanks 20:58 i guess we don't have a SwissTeam representative 20:58 Their information is not very clear. They seem active, but don't have a LoCo Directory nor is that up-to-date 20:58 events seem quite lacking 20:59 Or is this a first-time request and thus they don't have a LoCo Directory? 20:59 It appears to me that they were concerned that they needed to be on the agenda to at least gain more time to finish the application. 20:59 Yeah, judging from the Linux Day site they have things going on, but the application seems incomplete 20:59 the application also says DRAFT at the top 20:59 Heh 21:00 huge gap in mailing list traffic 21:00 oct 16 to dec 17 21:00 Ouch 21:00 and dec 17 was about re-verification 21:00 sounds like they might be trying to get the loco going again 21:00 but swiss is a bit different to other countries, since Germany has a strong community and many people are helping online over there 21:00 Yeah, I say give them a two-month extension 21:01 Yeah, I think things look positive but we need concrete information. They should have more time to get it to us. :) 21:01 ok 21:01 lets vote on that 21:01 shall we vote on that? 21:01 yup 21:01 #topic SwissTeam Two month extension 21:01 whoops 21:02 vote not topic :P 21:02 Haha 21:02 #vote SwissTeam Two month extension 21:02 Please vote on: SwissTeam Two month extension 21:02 Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) 21:02 +1 21:02 +1 received from svij 21:02 +1 21:02 +1 received from kyrofa 21:02 #voters kenvandine svij gsilvapt kyrofa Letozaf_ nhaines 21:02 Current voters: Letozaf_ gsilvapt kenvandine kyrofa nhaines svij 21:02 +1 21:02 +1 received from Letozaf_ 21:02 +1 21:02 +1 received from kenvandine 21:02 +1 21:02 +1 received from gsilvapt 21:02 +1 Please continue working on your application and get back to us. :) 21:02 +1 Please continue working on your application and get back to us. :) received from nhaines 21:02 #endvote 21:02 Voting ended on: SwissTeam Two month extension 21:02 Votes for:6 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 21:02 Motion carried 21:03 #topic any other business? 21:03 who wants to go update all the expirations? 21:03 * kyrofa waves, because I have no clue how 21:04 #vote Who wants to update all the expirations? 21:04 great time to learn :) 21:04 Exactly! 21:04 * Letozaf_ me too does not have idea 21:04 It's actually pretty easy. 21:04 Letozaf_ we can split them unless someone else also doesn't know? 21:04 * nhaines hides /o\ 21:04 nhaines, we have a voluteer :) 21:04 just change the date and enter a comment for why 21:04 i can show you on the first one 21:05 I've done it before. :) 21:05 * Letozaf_ ok looks easy 21:05 nhaines, for kyrofa :) 21:05 shall we confirm a date for our next meeting? 21:05 Sure. 21:06 kenvandine, you do AZ, I'll do Myanmar, Venezuala, and Tunisia, Letozaf_ you can do Portugal and Switzerland. Sound okay? 21:06 ok 21:06 Any questions, just ask in the IRC channel or Telegram group. :) 21:06 ok 21:06 Good deal 21:06 Next meeting, Jan 8th, 2000 UTC? 21:07 Works for me! 21:07 yeah 21:07 works for me 21:07 Anyone not gonna be here? 21:07 ok 21:07 yup 21:07 Cool 21:08 o/ 21:08 anything else? 21:08 Thanks. Good meeting. 21:08 Happy holidays to everyone, of course. :) Happy new year in particular! 21:09 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)