== Meeting information == * #ubuntu-meeting: ubuntu-server-team, 27 Jun at 16:00 — 16:40 UTC * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-06-27-16.00.log.html]] == Meeting summary == === Review ACTION points from previous meeting === The discussion about "Review ACTION points from previous meeting" started at 16:00. * ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2017-June/039831.html * ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2017-June/039831.html * ''ACTION:'' * nacc to write a release notes entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over) * ''ACTION:'' * nacc to write a server guide entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over) * ''ACTION:'' * rbasak to add maintainership info to mysql triage page (carried over) * ''ACTION:'' * rharper to write a server guide entry on v2 yaml support in cloud-init (carried over) * ''ACTION:'' * rharper to write a release notes entry on v2 yaml support in cloud-init (carried over) * ''ACTION:'' * dpb look into why this is stalled https://github.com/lxc/pylxd/issues/232 === Artful Development === The discussion about "Artful Development" started at 16:07. * ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/ReleaseSchedule * '''Current Work''' (16:08) * ''LINK:'' https://trello.com/b/U9HhWyT0/daily-ubuntu-server * '''Release Bugs''' (16:10) * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-aa-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server === Server & Cloud Bugs & SRU/Pending Uploads (slashd, ddstreet) === The discussion about "Server & Cloud Bugs & SRU/Pending Uploads (slashd, ddstreet)" started at 16:11. * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-z-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server * SRU pending for : percona-xtradb-cluster-5.5, rsyslog, autofs5, percona-xtradb-cluster-5.6 percona-xtradb-cluster-5.5, multipath-tools, open-iscsi, nfs-utils, ksh * pcp MIR: 1. the extra MIR I mentioned ( I reported that you need one for but that will be part of the scope as well); 2. : add dep8 tests to all of the various binraries of pcp * pcp has another dep: libpapi5 that would also need a MIR * pcp MIR: dep8, segfaults, and the other dep are non-negotiable * extra dep is libpapi5 FYI * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-x-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server === Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (powersj) === The discussion about "Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (powersj)" started at 16:27. * ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2017-June/007551.html * ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2017-June/007551.html === Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee) === The discussion about "Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee)" started at 16:29. === Update on new Triage Process (cpaelzer) === The discussion about "Update on new Triage Process (cpaelzer)" started at 16:29. * ''LINK:'' https://trello.com/c/txK0T1is * when working on a bug from the backlog, please check https://trello.com/c/txK0T1is * clearing backlog started, but progress is still too slow === Upcoming Call For Papers === The discussion about "Upcoming Call For Papers" started at 16:35. * ''LINK:'' https://lwn.net/Calendar/Monthly/cfp/ * ''LINK:'' http://www.open-zfs.org/wiki/OpenZFS_Developer_Summit === Ubuntu Server Team Events === The discussion about "Ubuntu Server Team Events" started at 16:37. === Open Discussion === The discussion about "Open Discussion" started at 16:38. === Announce next meeting date, time and chair === The discussion about "Announce next meeting date, time and chair" started at 16:39. * Next meeting Tuesday, 2017-07-04 at 1600 UTC, chair will be cpaelzer == Vote results == == Action items, by person == * nacc * * nacc to write a release notes entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over) * * nacc to write a server guide entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over) * rbasak * * rbasak to add maintainership info to mysql triage page (carried over) * rharper * * rharper to write a server guide entry on v2 yaml support in cloud-init (carried over) * * rharper to write a release notes entry on v2 yaml support in cloud-init (carried over) == Done items == * (none) == People present (lines said) == * ahasenack (100) * cpaelzer (52) * dpb1 (27) * slashd (19) * powersj (9) * meetingology (9) * nacc (8) * dgadomski (7) * rbasak (3) * ubottu (2) * smb (2) * rharper (1) == Full Log == 16:00 #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team 16:00 Meeting started Tue Jun 27 16:00:01 2017 UTC. The chair is ahasenack. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 16:00 16:00 Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 16:00 o/ 16:00 #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting 16:00 * cpaelzer reach out to ubuntu-devel@/AA and find out if an audit log of package exceptions exists anywhere 16:00 cpaelzer: I believe you did that, right? 16:00 he did 16:01 o/ 16:01 * nacc to write a release notes entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over) 16:01 * nacc to write a server guide entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over) 16:01 nacc: carry over? 16:01 o/ 16:02 o/ 16:02 o/ 16:02 I did and will pull out a link 16:02 sorry to be late as announced 16:03 np 16:03 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2017-June/039831.html 16:03 that is the thread 16:03 #link https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2017-June/039831.html 16:03 bot? 16:03 which is good as it covers where tihngs are today and slangasek 's plan to extend for -updates 16:03 hm 16:04 ahasenack: it doesn't echo on link received iirc 16:04 ahasenack: carry over, please 16:04 nacc: ok, thx 16:04 #action * nacc to write a release notes entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over) 16:04 * meetingology * nacc to write a release notes entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over) 16:04 ahasenack: *and* one person specifying #link is enough, not just the chair is recongnized 16:04 #action * nacc to write a server guide entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over) 16:04 * meetingology * nacc to write a server guide entry on ipv6 netboot (carried over) 16:04 * powersj schedule a bugsquashing day! 16:04 done! 16:04 powersj: I saw you scheduled one for tomorrow, is that correct? 16:04 nice 16:05 yes! 16:05 * rbasak to add maintainership info to mysql triage page (carried over) 16:05 rbasak: carry over? 16:05 Please 16:05 #action * rbasak to add maintainership info to mysql triage page (carried over) 16:05 * meetingology * rbasak to add maintainership info to mysql triage page (carried over) 16:05 * rharper to write a server guide entry on v2 yaml support in cloud-init (carried over) 16:05 * rharper to write a release notes entry on v2 yaml support in cloud-init (carried over) 16:05 carry 16:05 rharper: news about that? 16:05 ok 16:06 #action * rharper to write a server guide entry on v2 yaml support in cloud-init (carried over) 16:06 * meetingology * rharper to write a server guide entry on v2 yaml support in cloud-init (carried over) 16:06 #action * rharper to write a release notes entry on v2 yaml support in cloud-init (carried over) 16:06 * meetingology * rharper to write a release notes entry on v2 yaml support in cloud-init (carried over) 16:06 * dpb add on the #topic server ddstreet as a backup in case slashd is absent 16:06 done 16:06 thx 16:06 * dpb look into why this is stalled https://github.com/lxc/pylxd/issues/232 16:06 done 16:06 well 16:06 why is it stalled? 16:06 I looked into it 16:06 you can leave it on for next week 16:07 ok 16:07 #action * dpb look into why this is stalled https://github.com/lxc/pylxd/issues/232 16:07 * meetingology * dpb look into why this is stalled https://github.com/lxc/pylxd/issues/232 16:07 * dpb add agenda item for next week to check on triage progress. 16:07 done, I see it 16:07 * dpb1 nods 16:07 #topic Artful Development 16:07 #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/ReleaseSchedule 16:08 #subtopic Current Work 16:08 there is an alpha coming out today? 16:08 #link https://trello.com/b/U9HhWyT0/daily-ubuntu-server 16:08 looks like thursday 16:09 there are a ton of cards in the review column 16:09 anything else to add? 16:10 #subtopic Release Bugs 16:10 #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-aa-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server 16:10 django, ubuntu-advantage (esm), ipmi 16:11 I'm looking at ubuntu-advantage-tools, have a branch in progress 16:11 ok 16:11 moving on 16:11 #topic Server & Cloud Bugs & SRU/Pending Uploads (slashd, ddstreet) 16:11 Business as usual : http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24963994/ One of the hot topic in STS is the 'pcp' pkg MIR: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iNd6cPJSIIN_lzmJKUPWb0K9rnaeYo3APebH3bkXF8E/view .We already had some good inputs from cpaelzer and sil2100 but I have invited dgadomski to join the meeting to discuss further about the MIR with the keys persons if appropriate for this meeting. 16:12 hello everyone 16:12 hi 16:12 cpaelzer, I know you look at our template already 16:13 any concerned ? do you think we are on the good track 16:13 ? 16:13 well I have two open issues which are noted so far but not yet solved (needs more time) 16:13 dpb1, did you look Brooks' email for approval ? 16:13 Yes, I was letting it sit a few days waiting for others on the team to have their chance 16:13 dpb1, sound good 16:14 #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-z-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server 16:14 cpaelzer, what should be our focus ? fix the bug for now ? 16:14 #info SRU pending for : percona-xtradb-cluster-5.5, rsyslog, autofs5, percona-xtradb-cluster-5.6 percona-xtradb-cluster-5.5, multipath-tools, open-iscsi, nfs-utils, ksh 16:14 To get a formal ack I'd want to see somebody step up and drive dep8 tests, manual tests and fixes of anything you have found plus what I (and debian bug reports) reported 16:15 that is approx 1-2 weeks of work plus the push through to Debian and a resync 16:15 do I need to echo that info or was it accepted silently? 16:15 the acceptance in Debian would also prove some of the concern that it isn't that actively maintained there 16:15 ahasenack: for me it shows up in an extra channel to be accepted 16:15 ok 16:15 ahasenack: you have to provide a #link yes 16:16 dgadomski, any question for the server team about the MIR ? 16:16 slashd: dgadomski: also the follow on MIR is kind of untouched 16:16 anyting you want to add or address 16:16 I reported that you need one for but that will be part of the scope as well 16:16 yes, from what I read in the feedback those are the things that need to be fixed: 16:16 so the full drill once more - bugs, cve's, maintenance status, upstream status, tests in place ... ? 16:17 debian bug #805955, startup scripts (try to use the systemd services present in upstream) 16:17 Debian bug 805955 in src:pcp "pcp: FTBFS when built with dpkg-buildpackage -A (no binary artifacts)" [Serious,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/805955 16:17 is there anything else that we should focus on at this point? 16:18 yes 16:18 1. the extra MIR I mentioned 16:18 2. : add dep8 tests to all of the various binraries of pcp 16:18 honestly I just typed their names and one of them segfaulted 16:18 that is what I meant with "I'd want to see somebody step up and drive dep8 tests, manual tests and fixes of anything you have found plus what I (and debian bug reports) reported" 16:19 dgadomski: ^^ 16:19 ok, we will add this to our list, thank you 16:19 dgadomski: and one more thing 16:19 what is your target - artful? 16:19 or 18.04? 16:19 it wasn't listed int he doc I saw 16:20 I believe it's artful 16:20 well then hurry up :-) 16:20 #info pcp MIR: 1. the extra MIR I mentioned ( I reported that you need one for but that will be part of the scope as well); 2. : add dep8 tests to all of the various binraries of pcp 16:20 thanks ahasenack 16:20 silent bot 16:21 shhh 16:21 ok, so z bugs, long list, but many fix committed (cloud-init mostly) 16:21 cpaelzer, any crucial date ? deadline ? 16:21 dgadomski: reach out to me at any time if there are questions 16:21 cpaelzer: I appreciate it, thank you 16:21 slashd: deadline is to get all that was mentioned into Debian so that it is autosynced before the auto-sync is stopped 16:21 let me check 16:21 back to mir 16:22 All mentioned in Debian before 23th August, and a formal MIR bug on both packages with Ack of the security Team 16:22 and a Team that says yes to maintain it 16:22 cpaelzer, ack ok I think that cover the MIR topic for now 16:23 again you might need dpb1's ack for pcp if he wants us to do, but I'm not sure on the extra dep 16:23 dep8, segfaults, and the other dep are non-negotiable 16:23 cpaelzer, there is another thread between mgmt about this 16:23 dpb1, ack 16:23 sound good I think we now know the next step dgadomski anything else ? 16:23 extra dep is libpapi5 FYI 16:24 #info pcp has another dep: libpapi5 that would also need a MIR 16:24 #info pcp MIR: dep8, segfaults, and the other dep are non-negotiable 16:24 #info extra dep is libpapi5 FYI 16:24 geez, who is running this? :) 16:24 BOOM! 16:24 ;) 16:24 Sounds like dpb1 just volunteered to chair the next meeting :-P 16:25 he liked it so much last week 16:25 *all* future meetings 16:25 that's what I heard 16:25 linkedin skill 16:25 thanks guys I think that's it for the MIR 16:25 * dpb1 ignores peanut gallery 16:25 * ahasenack waits just to be sure 16:25 lol 16:26 #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-x-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server 16:26 x bugs 16:26 anything to highlight? 16:27 not for me thanks 16:27 #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (powersj) 16:27 Last week I released the new cloud-init CI system and spent a good deal of time getting through cloud-init SRU verification, and ended week submitting 3x jenkins-launchpad-plugin merge requests 16:27 This week already worked on cloud-init and curtin SRUs. Plan to do some KPI work, but squash day tomorrow, and get back to proposed testing later this week. 16:27 questions? 16:27 bug squash I hope 16:28 do you have a link to the announcement? 16:28 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2017-June/007551.html 16:28 #link https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2017-June/007551.html 16:28 thx 16:29 #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee) 16:29 Not much to report as I was mostly collar deep in sh..iny recovery work to have the problems caused by initial fixes for the kernel stackclash issue replaced by latest upstream versions. We are working hard to get this out as soon as possible but things take time. 16:29 Are there questions otherwise? 16:29 thx smb 16:29 #topic Update on new Triage Process (cpaelzer) 16:30 cpaelzer: anything to update? 16:30 ? 16:30 was that meant to cover the expiration bugs 16:30 think so, yes 16:30 I think so 16:30 I think just a general check point 16:30 so I myselv covered 3 of them 16:30 but I saw some working on others 16:30 to get a sane tracking please once you handled one please click the checkbox in 16:31 https://trello.com/c/txK0T1is 16:31 wow 16:31 other than that - please at least on your triage duty day do 1-3 of them 16:31 or we will carry them what feels like forever 16:31 #info when working on a bug from the backlog, please check https://trello.com/c/txK0T1is 16:31 I can only ask you and try to go by example 16:32 so for now - info "clearing backlog started, but progress is still too slow" 16:32 #info clearing backlog started, but progress is still too slow 16:32 also in case you ran out or are not in the mood for fixes on the bug squash - clearing those old things is bug squash as well 16:33 the script listed this bug to me today: 16:33 Bugs in backlog and not touched in 180 days 16:33 Found 1 bugs 16:33 LP: #1572132 - (New) [samba] - SMB driver (SMBv2) does not show all files when mounting a windows top level share 16:33 Launchpad bug 1572132 in samba (Ubuntu) "SMB driver (SMBv2) does not show all files when mounting a windows top level share" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1572132 16:33 would that be in that card? 16:33 a quick ctrl-f didn't find it 16:34 i think the card is only the "old" old backlog 16:34 as in our baseline of oldest bugs 16:34 >= 180? 16:34 not the ones that will occur (potentially) each day running the script after that first day we decided to 16:34 ah, not the freshly-new-old bugs. 16:34 cpaelzer: is that correct? 16:34 dpb1: right, that's my thinking 16:34 ok 16:35 #topic Upcoming Call For Papers 16:35 #link https://lwn.net/Calendar/Monthly/cfp/ 16:35 I added ZFS to the list: 16:35 #link http://www.open-zfs.org/wiki/OpenZFS_Developer_Summit 16:35 it's a two-day quickie 16:35 one day for presentations, the other day for a hackathon 16:36 nacc: correct 16:36 that is the very old backlog 16:36 sorry for the delay 16:36 ahasenack: don't run so fas 16:36 t 16:36 this ain't dpb 16:36 * cpaelzer misses the campfire 16:36 anything else for conferences? 16:37 #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events 16:37 I don't think there is any coming up, other than the bug squashing day tomorrow 16:38 #topic Open Discussion 16:38 anything someone wants to discuss? 16:38 lots of things 16:38 oh, you mean, with this crowd? 16:38 and work related 16:38 no. 16:39 #topic Announce next meeting date, time and chair 16:39 Can we skip next week or have cpaelzer run it due to a certain US holiday... 16:39 Next meeting Tuesday, 2017-07-04 at 1600 UTC, chair will be ... non-us? 16:39 yes -- cpaelzer would be next on list 16:40 #info Next meeting Tuesday, 2017-07-04 at 1600 UTC, chair will be cpaelzer 16:40 danke 16:40 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)