16:04 <jgrimm> #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team
16:04 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Feb  7 16:04:27 2017 UTC.  The chair is jgrimm. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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16:04 <jgrimm> hi folks!  will be a light turnout as handful of server folks are sprinting on cloud-init/curtin atm
16:05 <jgrimm> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting
16:05 <rbasak> For reference, http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-01-31-16.00.html is the last meeting.
16:05 <rbasak> No action points there.
16:05 <rbasak> I'll talk about minuting later :)
16:05 <jgrimm> rbasak, ok i was about to ask you
16:05 <jgrimm> thanks!
16:06 <jgrimm> moving on then!
16:06 <jgrimm> #topic Zesty Development
16:06 <jgrimm> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseSchedule
16:06 <jgrimm> FeatureFreeze one week away!
16:07 <jgrimm> anyone want to talk about anything explicitly?
16:07 <rbasak> I've stuck squid3 and monitoring-plugins merges for review in the queue, if anyone has time.
16:07 <rbasak> monitoring-plugins is relatively trivial.
16:07 <rbasak> squid3 is complex but I'm reasonably confident about it now.
16:07 <cpaelzer> I got as far as "opening the browser tab" :-/
16:07 <rbasak> I've got some others to do. Remember to use "grep-merges" to see what you touched last.
16:07 <rbasak> I intend to post the MPs for everything, but upload if nobody gets round to reviewing.
16:08 <rbasak> Do we have any complex merges remaining?
16:08 <jgrimm> nacc reviewed moin, openvpn, and python-boto for me.. i need ot rework moin, openvpn for some mostly trivial to address comments
16:08 <cpaelzer> rbasak: for review you mean?
16:08 <rbasak> cpaelzer: by remaining I mean no MP yet.
16:09 <cpaelzer> ok, no not from me then
16:09 <rbasak> I see quite a bit INPROGRESS in the blueprint.
16:09 <jgrimm> rbasak, yes.. i'd like to understand status from everyone on INPROGRESS
16:09 <jgrimm> its not a terribly long list
16:10 <jgrimm> but just to make sure on target
16:10 <rbasak> jgrimm: that's a good idea. Do you want to run through them one by one?
16:10 <rbasak> Or just a report by-owner?
16:10 <jgrimm> maybe by owner is more efficient
16:10 <rbasak> There are also some unassigned TODOs that are FF-sensitive.
16:11 <cpaelzer> I need to recheck on liblockfile
16:11 <jgrimm> rbasak, some of those are 'nice to haves', where i think that is true i'll probably move out of the list
16:11 <jgrimm> cpaelzer, would you like to go first
16:11 <cpaelzer> for DPDK you all have seen my current stalling on ubuntu-devel
16:11 <cpaelzer> qemu is stuck on a nova test, but coreycb and zul look into that
16:11 <rbasak> So for me: squid3: done, MP pending. monitoring-plugins not listed but also done, MP pending. I have capacity now. I was going to hit up as much as I could remaining.
16:11 <cpaelzer> all else done
16:11 <rbasak> I noticed a minor dovecot bump in Debian that could do with re-merging (upstream microrelease).
16:12 <jgrimm> #https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-z-server-core
16:12 <jgrimm> rbasak, i asked cpaelzer to take dovecot remerge
16:12 <rbasak> OK.
16:12 <coreycb> zul, you still working on that ^^?
16:13 <zul> coreycb: sort of...still cant reproduce it out of autopkgtest
16:13 <rbasak> Also, I want to gather all the upload tags and get them into the importer repo. I have an item on my todo to sort that. So if everyone could just keep their outstanding ones lying around somewhere ready for my collection, that'd be great :)
16:13 <nacc> rbasak: it's relatively important to do that promptly now
16:13 <coreycb> cpaelzer, we'll get to it, we're way backed up on openstack release stuff
16:13 <nacc> rbasak: as the importer will not integrate them at import-time if they're not there, and it's running automatically
16:14 <rbasak> nacc: I'm not too worried if they don't get integrated, as long as they're there.
16:14 <cpaelzer> I found my liblockfile status - in fact I tihnk it can become a sync
16:14 <rbasak> If we do really want them integrated now, then we should sort where they're being collected from ASAP.
16:14 <nacc> rbasak: ok, just makes re-merging non-trivial :)
16:14 <cpaelzer> but the remaining Delta is all about special cross compilation, and the new versions are iterating fast
16:15 <jgrimm> cpaelzer, i'll trust you are on it.
16:15 <cpaelzer> that said I sent to infinity and doko but didn't hear yet
16:15 <cpaelzer> currently I'd think we better keep it stable as it was for 5 years and sync early next cycle
16:15 <cpaelzer> I get in touch with both again to get an ack on that
16:15 <jgrimm> cpaelzer, ack
16:16 <jgrimm> rbasak, did you have anything else.
16:16 <rbasak> No that's all from me.
16:16 <rbasak> Oh
16:16 <jgrimm> rbasak, will you pick up some of the untaken packages then?
16:16 <rbasak> What about the unassigned work items that are FF sensitive?
16:16 <rbasak> Right.
16:16 <rbasak> Sure. Shall I take one at a time, so as not to lock out others who might have capacity?
16:16 * nacc is working on ldb/samba today
16:16 <rbasak> Since I haven't looked at how big they are yet.
16:17 <nacc> as we have a critical bug on samba
16:18 <jgrimm> rbasak, nss, libpam-mount, and sorting the sssd related MIR seem to be the last bits unowned
16:18 <rbasak> OK
16:18 <jgrimm> the numad for qemu is essentially DONE
16:18 <jgrimm> i just need to fix the blueprint to reflect, and as nacc said he is already working on ldb
16:19 <jgrimm> so.. we have owners for most items.. that being said, i probably need to rescan what has come in since I last refreshed the list
16:19 <nacc> jgrimm: yeah, sorry, have been heads-down on iscsi, will focus on getting caught up on merges the rest of the week and then bugs next week
16:19 <jgrimm> nacc, thanks.. right we want to hit the merges hard this week for FF deadline
16:20 <jgrimm> caribou, around?
16:20 <caribou> yes
16:20 <jgrimm> nut merge?
16:20 <caribou> didn't have time to look at it, sorry
16:21 <jgrimm> caribou, no worries. just wanted to see if its still on your radar.. able to get in before FF?
16:21 <caribou> jgrimm: hoping so but UA workload is rather heavy these days
16:22 <jgrimm> caribou, do you recall whether its big/little effort?
16:22 <caribou> jgrimm: yes, not that big
16:22 <jgrimm> i know it has been a long time since you've looked at it, but gauging whether its worth someone else picking up
16:22 <jgrimm> caribou, ok.. i can snag it if you'd like?
16:23 <jgrimm> you can be a reviewer! :)
16:23 <caribou> jgrimm: I think that rbasak had already had a look at the merge and there was a tag missing or something
16:23 <caribou> lemme check
16:23 <jgrimm> caribou, ok, yes if its close that would be nice to knock out
16:23 * rbasak doesn't recall
16:23 <jgrimm> rbasak, was early in cycle iirc
16:24 <jgrimm> rbasak, oh there is the MIR bug you opened against parallax to look at too
16:25 <jgrimm> rbasak, MIR or otherwise resolve parallax (LP: #1653959): TODO
16:25 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1653959 in parallax (Ubuntu) "[MIR] parallax, dependency of crmsh" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1653959
16:25 <rbasak> Yeah that does need sorting.
16:25 <jgrimm> caribou, we can come back to you at the end wrt what to do with 'nut'
16:25 <caribou> jgrimm: btw, the MIR for tomsfastmath should turn the clamav merge into a straight sync
16:26 <jgrimm> caribou, oh.. i thought that was done already
16:26 <jgrimm> still universe. :(
16:27 <cpaelzer> well it only gets to main once something pulls it in
16:27 <cpaelzer> what is the status of the mir itself?
16:27 <jgrimm> caribou, Fix Committed!
16:27 <jgrimm> so my memory isn't failing me as bad as i thought
16:27 <cpaelzer> so that should me one could trigger the sync now right?
16:28 <jgrimm> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tomsfastmath/+bug/1619239
16:28 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1619239 in tomsfastmath (Ubuntu) "[MIR] tomsfastmath (runtime dependency of clamav)" [High,Fix committed]
16:28 <jgrimm> cpaelzer, sounds good
16:28 <caribou> jgrimm: yes, but what is triggering the move from Universe to Main ?
16:28 <rbasak> Is that MIR actually ready to go?
16:28 <rbasak> It's not clear to me from the bug comments.
16:28 <rbasak> I'll ask in #ubuntu-devel.
16:29 <rbasak> But if it is, then we just sync, right?
16:29 <jgrimm> i believe that is what caribou is saying
16:30 <cpaelzer> caribou: in case it is read the upload of something in main that depends on it will cause a component mismatch, but the AA will find the MIR and move it (experts please trump my knowledge here)
16:30 <cpaelzer> s/read/ready/
16:30 <rbasak> Right.
16:31 <jgrimm> ok.. anything else for FF milestone?
16:31 <jgrimm> caribou, you'll let me know about 'nut' offline?
16:31 <jgrimm> whether you can push it along, or prefer someone else to carry forward
16:31 <caribou> jgrimm: yep, I'm on it
16:31 <powersj> here's my update: htop MIR is in security review; iotop, nicstat MIR are done, need to add to seed; curtin SRU exception is in review by folks on the team; ISO sizes still seem to be below limits; etckeeper merge to be done hopefully this week :)
16:32 <jgrimm> powersj, hold on hoss
16:32 <nacc> heh
16:32 <jgrimm> ok, now powersj!
16:32 <jgrimm> :)
16:33 <jgrimm> anyone else i missed
16:33 <jgrimm> smb, how is xen?
16:33 <smb> jgrimm, probably still waiting on a bunch of things
16:33 <smb> there is a 4.8 in proposed for zesty
16:33 <jgrimm> smb, ack.. thanks
16:34 <jgrimm> ok, anyone else with blueprint/FF related items or discussion?
16:34 <jgrimm> ...3...2...1...
16:34 <caribou> jgrimm: I can update on 'nut'
16:34 <caribou> :)
16:34 <jgrimm> ha!
16:34 <jgrimm> go
16:34 <caribou> https://code.launchpad.net/~louis-bouchard/ubuntu/+source/nut/+git/nut/+merge/311471
16:35 <caribou> there was some tag mismatch that I fixed in a new branch, but for some reason another one seems to be missing
16:36 <jgrimm> rbasak, nacc ^^ any recommendations
16:36 <caribou> jgrimm: well, rbasak ask to push a new MP, I'll try to do it by EOW
16:36 <jgrimm> caribou, great! thank you
16:36 <jgrimm> #subtopic Release Bugs
16:37 <jgrimm> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-z-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server
16:37 <nacc> jgrimm: afaict, simple typo and then use of `usd tag` and then a push of tags should fix rbasak's linter
16:37 <jgrimm> nacc, gotcha
16:38 <jgrimm> anything on zesty bug list for discussion
16:38 <jgrimm> nacc, i need to follow-up on python-django as we seem to be at an impasse
16:38 <nacc> caribou: i would also suggest deleting those incorrect tags in the process (`git push lpusip :tags/{deconstruct,logical}/2.7.4-4ubuntu1`
16:39 <nacc> jgrimm: ack, i don't think i've seen any movement on that bug
16:39 <cpaelzer> sorry interrupt here, I need to drop
16:39 <jgrimm> nacc, maybe take git-workflow tooling discussion out to #ubuntu-devel
16:39 <jgrimm> cpaelzer, ok, will take interrupt from you.. i'm assuming for SRU status
16:39 <caribou> nacc: there is a _v2 branch with what should be the correct tags, but one seems to be missing
16:40 <cpaelzer> progress on libvirt, libvirt (next SRU), and strongswan
16:40 <nacc> caribou: oh ok, sorry, didn't realize that
16:40 <cpaelzer> qemu waiting for merge to complete
16:40 <cpaelzer> cu
16:40 <jgrimm> caribou, please take that thread out to #ubuntu-devel
16:40 <caribou> jgrimm: k
16:40 <jgrimm> cpaelzer, is that it?
16:41 <jgrimm> by your cu, i'm assuming you left the building. :)
16:41 <jgrimm> ok, getting back on track to the agenda
16:41 <jgrimm> #topic Server & Cloud Bugs & SRU/Pending Uploads (caribou)
16:41 <caribou> #info SRU are pending for : os-prober, ifupdown, systemd, multipath-tools, qemu, sosreport
16:41 <jgrimm> caribou, anything new in that list?
16:42 <caribou> jgrimm: I think that the systemd is
16:42 <caribou> jgrimm: no, that one was there last week
16:42 <caribou> jgrimm: so no, don't think so
16:42 <jgrimm> caribou,  ok great!
16:42 <jgrimm> anything for discussion here from anyone?
16:43 <jgrimm> cool, thanks Louis!
16:43 <caribou> np
16:43 <jgrimm> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (powersj)
16:43 <powersj> Last week, finished getting ppc64el ISO testing operational. Have 3 failures working through: raid1, lvm, multi-lvm. These are test issues, not actual failures yet. arm64 node is now running tests on jenkins. Few test merge requests for curtin and cloud-init.
16:43 <powersj> This week, sprinting with cloud-init/curtin folks. Getting those merge reqeusts in and getting the SRU exception for curtin reviewed. Expanding curtin's vmtests to run on ppc64el and s390x. Finally, trying my first merge with jgrimm.
16:43 <jgrimm> \o/
16:43 <jgrimm> questions for powersj?
16:44 <jgrimm> #link https://jenkins.ubuntu.com/server/
16:44 <jgrimm> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee)
16:44 <smb> Nothing new yet for zesty. Xenial point release delayed a bit / currently working on clearing up dkms list to build with 4.8 kernels in xenial. Are there questions?
16:44 <jgrimm> anyone?
16:44 <jgrimm> thanks smb!
16:45 <jgrimm> #topic Upcoming Call For Papers
16:45 <jgrimm> #link https://lwn.net/Calendar/Monthly/cfp/
16:46 <jgrimm> netdev CFP deadline on Feb 20
16:46 <jgrimm> anything else?
16:46 <jgrimm> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
16:47 <jgrimm> as mentioned previously, handful of folks sequestered away for a cloud-init/curtin sprint in austin. :)
16:47 <xnox> powersj, but we did have vmtests running on s390x already =) or has that regressed?
16:48 <jgrimm> #topic Open Discussion
16:48 <rbasak> o/
16:48 <powersj> xnox: we have not been running them, and learned yesterday that zipl is not getting installed in images.
16:48 <rbasak> I'd like to cut some red tape on doing minutes. As you know, I have quite a backlog.
16:48 <rbasak> I propose to change https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/Server into a manual list.
16:48 <rbasak> Containing just URLs to the MeetBot automatic minutes.
16:49 <rbasak> So all we need to do to prepare minutes in future is add that link.
16:49 <jgrimm> rbasak, downsides?
16:49 <rbasak> And rely on MeetBot to generate them sensibly, and for the chair to use the #info and related commands much more to fill it out.
16:49 <rbasak> I don't really see any downsides. The full log is generated by MeetBot and still available.
16:49 <xnox> powersj, fun
16:49 <rbasak> I suppose we'd have a dependency on ubottu.com.
16:50 <rbasak> We will no longer have an opportunity to edit the minutes later.
16:50 <rbasak> But I don't think we care enough about it anyway. The full logs will always be present for anyone confused.
16:51 <jgrimm> rbasak, i'm not opposed..
16:51 <rbasak> I'll JFDI then.
16:51 <rbasak> It'll save chair effort later.
16:52 <jgrimm> rbasak, let's try it..
16:52 <jgrimm> and if we don't like it, we can go back
16:52 <rbasak> Sounds good, thanks.
16:52 <jgrimm> i'm all for eliminating busy work
16:52 <jgrimm> any one else?   wrt rbasak proposal, or other business?
16:53 <nacc> seems reasonable to me
16:53 <jgrimm> #topic Announce next meeting date, time and chair
16:53 <jgrimm> Same bat-time, same bat-channel.  Feb 14
16:54 <jgrimm> and chair is..rharper
16:54 <jgrimm> :)
16:54 <jgrimm> thanks everyone
16:54 <jgrimm> #endmeeting