== Meeting information == * #ubuntu-meeting: ubuntu-server-team, 17 Jan at 16:00 — 16:32 UTC * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-01-17-16.00.log.html]] == Meeting summary == === Server & Cloud Bugs & SRU/Pending Uploads (caribou) === The discussion about "Server & Cloud Bugs & SRU/Pending Uploads (caribou)" started at 16:00. * ''ACTION:'' caribou to verify with Huang if the Trusty Target is still required for bug 1640676 * cpaelzer will upload multipath in about 1.5 weeks from now === Review ACTION points from previous meeting === The discussion about "Review ACTION points from previous meeting" started at 16:11. * There were no action points from the previous meeting. === Development Release === The discussion about "Development Release" started at 16:11. * ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseSchedule * About a month to feature freeze now. I know we still have a bunch of outstanding work items for feature freeze, including merges. * ''LINK:'' https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-z-server-core === Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (powersj) === The discussion about "Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (powersj)" started at 16:14. * ppc64el smoketest gating is blocked on infrastructure * cpaelzer has been working on the ppc qmeu migration tests === Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee) === The discussion about "Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee)" started at 16:16. * Target for zesty is 4.10 === Upcoming Call For Papers === The discussion about "Upcoming Call For Papers" started at 16:21. * ''LINK:'' https://lwn.net/Calendar/Monthly/cfp/ === Ubuntu Server Team Events === The discussion about "Ubuntu Server Team Events" started at 16:21. === Open Discussion === The discussion about "Open Discussion" started at 16:23. * ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2017-January/039643.html * RFC: proposal to remove net-tools from ubuntu-minimal * ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2017-January/039643.html === Announce next meeting date, time and chair === The discussion about "Announce next meeting date, time and chair" started at 16:31. * Next meeting: Tue Jan 24 16:00:00 UTC 2017 * Next chair: jamespage == Vote results == == Action items, by person == * caribou * caribou to verify with Huang if the Trusty Target is still required for bug 1640676 == Done items == * (none) == People present (lines said) == * rbasak (57) * caribou (33) * cpaelzer (33) * jgrimm (21) * ubottu (19) * smoser (11) * powersj (7) * smb (5) * meetingology (4) == Full Log == 16:00 #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team 16:00 Meeting started Tue Jan 17 16:00:24 2017 UTC. The chair is rbasak. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 16:00 16:00 Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 16:00 o/ 16:00 o/ 16:00 o/ 16:00 o/ 16:00 caribou isn't around for long, so let's start with his item. 16:00 #topic Server & Cloud Bugs & SRU/Pending Uploads (caribou) 16:00 caribou: over to you! 16:01 wow that was quick 16:01 heh 16:01 let me break the list so I don't flood the channel : 16:01 that sounds like a lot going on 16:01 LP: #1298061 - (nova) nova should allow evacuate for an instance in the Error state 16:01 LP: #1356211 - (sosreport) cannot collect rotated syslog.1 16:01 LP: #1366103 - (sosreport) sosreport doesn't collect all data from /etc/apparmor.d/ 16:01 LP: #1447695 - (sosreport) sosreport 3.2 does not collect systemd information 16:01 LP: #1447715 - (ifupdown) dhclient -6: Can't bind to dhcp address: Cannot assign requested address 16:01 Launchpad bug 1298061 in nova (Ubuntu Trusty) "nova should allow evacuate for an instance in the Error state" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1298061 16:02 LP: #1579609 - (os-prober) os-prober bug resulting in possible FS corruption 16:02 LP: #1605243 - (sosreport) iscsi initiator related configs and logs are not recorded 16:02 LP: #1614052 - (sosreport) SOSREPORT need to collect OPAL msglog 16:02 LP: #1621340 - (multipath-tools) [SRU]'multipath -r' causes /dev/mapper/ being removed 16:02 Launchpad bug 1356211 in sosreport (Ubuntu Trusty) "cannot collect rotated syslog.1" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1356211 16:02 LP: #1640382 - (qemu) Segfault event notifier because of race condition 16:02 LP: #1640676 - (libvirt) [SRU] libvirt 1.2.12 live-migration corrupts some instances 16:02 LP: #1642903 - (systemd) introduce disk/by-id (model_serial) symlinks for NVMe drives 16:02 LP: #1647485 - (systemd) NVMe symlinks broken by devices with spaces in model or serial strings 16:02 LP: #1648901 - (krb5) SPNEGO crash on mechanism failure 16:02 Launchpad bug 1366103 in sosreport (Ubuntu Trusty) "sosreport doesn't collect all data from /etc/apparmor.d/" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1366103 16:02 Launchpad bug 1447695 in sosreport (Ubuntu Trusty) "sosreport 3.2 does not collect systemd information" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447695 16:02 Launchpad bug 1447715 in ifupdown (Ubuntu Xenial) "dhclient -6: Can't bind to dhcp address: Cannot assign requested address" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447715 16:02 The first nova SRU does't really belong here though 16:02 Launchpad bug 1579609 in os-prober (Ubuntu Xenial) "os-prober bug resulting in possible FS corruption" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1579609 16:02 Launchpad bug 1605243 in sosreport (Ubuntu Yakkety) "iscsi initiator related configs and logs are not recorded" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1605243 16:02 Launchpad bug 1614052 in sosreport (Ubuntu Yakkety) "SOSREPORT need to collect OPAL msglog" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1614052 16:02 Launchpad bug 1621340 in multipath-tools (Ubuntu Xenial) "[SRU]'multipath -r' causes /dev/mapper/ being removed" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1621340 16:02 Launchpad bug 1640382 in qemu (Ubuntu Trusty) "Segfault event notifier because of race condition" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1640382 16:02 Launchpad bug 1640676 in libvirt (Ubuntu Trusty) "[SRU] libvirt 1.2.12 live-migration corrupts some instances" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1640676 16:02 Launchpad bug 1642903 in systemd (Ubuntu Trusty) "introduce disk/by-id (model_serial) symlinks for NVMe drives" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1642903 16:02 Launchpad bug 1647485 in systemd (Ubuntu Trusty) "NVMe symlinks broken by devices with spaces in model or serial strings" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1647485 16:02 Launchpad bug 1648901 in krb5 (Ubuntu Xenial) "SPNEGO crash on mechanism failure" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1648901 16:02 been doing some work on sosreport today to catch up with old issues 16:03 that's about it 16:03 I heard that coreycb looks into sponsoring the nova one 16:04 Thanks caribou! 16:04 Does anyone have any questions? 16:04 nope 16:04 checking on bugs 16:04 I think I heard of all I'm affected already 16:04 here 16:04 bug 1640676 16:04 bug 1640676 in libvirt (Ubuntu Trusty) "[SRU] libvirt 1.2.12 live-migration corrupts some instances" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1640676 16:04 caribou: what is left to do there 16:05 it is rather unclear on this one 16:05 cpaelzer: I will have to check on this one 16:05 It was targetted for kilo UCA 16:05 TBC is if that should go to trusty 16:06 if so let Hua calrify and prep a debdiff I can review test and sponsor 16:06 otherwise et him set the incomplete trusty to won't fix if that is ok 16:06 cpaelzer: the Trusty target might be there only to allow for UCA SRU; I'll check with him 16:07 great 16:07 rbasak: can you please add an action for me on this ? 16:07 rbasak: caribou: bug 1640382 was sponsored and verified, wait migration 16:07 bug 1640382 in qemu (Ubuntu Trusty) "Segfault event notifier because of race condition" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1640382 16:07 rbasak: ok, I'll clear the tag 16:07 anything caribou or xtrusia can do to track or speed up migration? 16:07 caribou: sure. What should it say exactly? I'm not sure I follow. 16:08 rbasak: [ACTION] caribou to verify with Huang if the Trusty Target is still required for bug 1640676 16:08 bug 1640676 in libvirt (Ubuntu Trusty) "[SRU] libvirt 1.2.12 live-migration corrupts some instances" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1640676 16:08 #action caribou to verify with Huang if the Trusty Target is still required for bug 1640676 16:08 * meetingology caribou to verify with Huang if the Trusty Target is still required for bug 1640676 16:09 caribou: and finally for bug 1621340 I'll upload multipath in about 1.5 weeks from now as-is - or with some tweaks - depends if rbasak or cyphermox can find time for a deeper review 16:09 bug 1621340 in multipath-tools (Ubuntu Xenial) "[SRU]'multipath -r' causes /dev/mapper/ being removed" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1621340 16:09 cpaelzer: good to know, thanks! 16:10 * cpaelzer stops stalling this now 16:10 but I wanted to help syncing on that 16:10 :) 16:10 tbh, this is what this list is for 16:11 #info cpaelzer will upload multipath in about 1.5 weeks from now 16:11 #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting 16:11 #info There were no action points from the previous meeting. 16:11 #topic Development Release 16:11 #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseSchedule 16:12 #info About a month to feature freeze now. I know we still have a bunch of outstanding work items for feature freeze, including merges. 16:12 cpaelzer is working on qemu 16:12 #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-z-server-core 16:12 Any comments? 16:12 actively 16:12 I'm nearly done with squid. 16:12 \o/ 16:13 I've been working with Lars upstream and we've merged mysql-5.7 and mysql-defaults now. They're not migrated yet - big dep8 backlog. 16:13 we've gotten a bunch of the more complicated ones done, or in progress. that's a very nice place to be one month out 16:14 #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (powersj) 16:14 powersj: o/ 16:14 just marked dovecot (done) and removed the duplicate on tgt 8done as well) 16:14 Last week lots of cloud-init work in the form of getting ready to add the KVM backend to the integration tests (thanks again for the input on that), reviewing Wes' merge request, and working on unit tests. 16:14 This week is a short one for me so the plan is to review Wesley's latest merge request, review some jenkins failures, and spend more time on unit tests and trying to wrap up bug triage of 2016. 16:14 questions? comments? 16:15 powersj, ppc64el smoketest gating? 16:15 powersj: just FYI to everybody I was hacking a bit on the ppc qmeu migration tests 16:15 jgrimm: no still waiting on RT to gain access to jenkins 16:15 not yet fully functioning, will work with powersj on it but at low/medium prio for now 16:15 cpaelzer: yeah saw, but haven't read, your email yet :P 16:15 powersj, ok, you may want to ping that RT 16:15 jgrimm: will do (did once last week) I think I need to get thepriority raised again 16:15 thanks 16:16 #info ppc64el smoketest gating is blocked on infrastructure 16:16 #info cpaelzer has been working on the ppc qmeu migration tests 16:16 Thanks powersj! 16:16 #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee) 16:16 Nothing to report (guess kernel version 4.9 in zesty is old news, target for zesty is 4.10). Are there any questions? 16:16 #info Target for zesty is 4.10 16:17 smb: would be good to find someone to look after the crash pkg 16:17 caribou, Oh right 16:17 smb: current version fails to open 4.8 & newer kernels 16:17 smb: I got a debdiff ready for this, but it still needs some loving care 16:18 caribou, Point me to the debdiff and I look who could handle it 16:18 LP: #1655625 16:18 Launchpad bug 1655625 in makedumpfile (Ubuntu Xenial) "ISST-LTE:pVM:roselp4:ubuntu 16.04.2: vmcore cannot be analysed by crash" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1655625 16:19 smb: I'll wave at you once I get everything ready 16:19 caribou, ok, thanks 16:19 smb: newer crash will still need merging in zesty otherwise it'll bite us 16:20 yeah, I can believe that 16:21 OK, thanks all! 16:21 #topic Upcoming Call For Papers 16:21 #link https://lwn.net/Calendar/Monthly/cfp/ 16:21 Anything to mention? 16:21 #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events 16:21 Anything to mention? 16:22 I know FOSDEM is coming up. Anyone going? 16:22 lxd team 16:23 Great. Thanks jgrimm! 16:23 #topic Open Discussion 16:23 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2017-January/039643.html 16:24 anyone give this any thought yet? ^^ 16:24 #info RFC: proposal to remove net-tools from ubuntu-minimal 16:24 #link https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2017-January/039643.html 16:24 I don't see any issue with it. 16:25 I'm sure we'll have users complaining ifconfig doesn't work come the next LTS, but they will still be able to install it manually. 16:25 may have to double check our packages for correct dependencies 16:26 what would you think of a ifconfig semi-compat wrapper 16:26 as an alternative when net-tools are not installed 16:26 That's basically what ifconfig already is, no? 16:26 hehe 16:26 heh 16:26 I thought a <1k script that makes "please use this instead" or so 16:26 maybe not worth the effort 16:27 command-not-found should still work. 16:27 $ sudo ifconfig ... 16:27 just came to my mind reading (and I agree) "we'll have users complaining ifconfig doesn't work come the next LTS" 16:27 right 16:27 "Please install net-tools" 16:27 that is the problem 16:27 I'd like to see 16:27 $ sudo ifconfig 16:27 "Please install net-tools or better ise the ip suite see XYZ" 16:27 cpaelzer, command-not-found not sufficient? 16:28 for deprecated things it lacks a way to "announce" the successor 16:28 I wonder if cnf can handle custom messages. 16:28 If not, perhaps that's a feature request for it? 16:28 ah 16:28 A similar thing for /usr/bin/python might be appropriate too. 16:29 i think a deprecated message might be better placed in the thing itself 16:29 rather than in some thing unrelated 16:29 ie 16:29 $ sudo ifconfiug 16:29 $ sudo ifconfig 16:29 16:29 Let's take this to the ubuntu-devel ML. 16:29 $ sudo apt-get install net-tools 16:30 +1 16:30 rbasak, ^^ 16:30 $ ifconfig 16:30 : this is deprecated 16:30 ... 16:30 i'm fine to take to ml, just finishing my thought,. 16:30 yep! all good 16:31 smoser: I agree with your proposed UX; I just think that the implementation could be inside cnf. 16:31 Anyway. 16:31 * rbasak loses the agenda 16:31 Ah 16:31 #topic Announce next meeting date, time and chair 16:32 #info Next meeting: Tue Jan 24 16:00:00 UTC 2017 16:32 #info Next chair: jamespage 16:32 (says the rota) 16:32 Thanks all! 16:32 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)