== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-meeting Meeting, 10 Nov at 16:02 — 16:53 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-11-10-16.02.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

=== Lightning round ===
The discussion about "Lightning round" started at 16:02.


=== Sprint travel ===
The discussion about "Sprint travel" started at 16:17.


=== UOS ===
The discussion about "UOS" started at 16:20.

  * ''LINK:'' http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1611/meeting/22714/architecture-discussions/ 
  * ''LINK:'' http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1611/meeting/22710/git-based-merge-workflow/ 

=== AOB ===
The discussion about "AOB" started at 16:32.

  * ''LINK:'' https://errors.ubuntu.com/oops/17e726c4-a6af-11e6-a2de-fa163e192766 



== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * slangasek (62)
 * pitti (41)
 * bdmurray (31)
 * infinity (25)
 * xnox (23)
 * barry (20)
 * robru (18)
 * ubottu (17)
 * caribou (16)
 * sil2100 (14)
 * doko (12)
 * tdaitx (12)
 * cyphermox (11)
 * meetingology (3)



== Full Log ==


 16:02 <slangasek> #startmeeting

 16:02 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Nov 10 16:02:31 2016 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 16:02 <meetingology> 

 16:02 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 16:02 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Lightning round

 16:03 <slangasek> $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko bdmurray slangasek caribou infinity sil2100 robru cyphermox pitti tdaitx xnox chiluk mwhudson)

 16:03 <slangasek> bdmurray mwhudson sil2100 pitti xnox infinity chiluk barry caribou cyphermox doko robru slangasek tdaitx

 16:03 <bdmurray> setup daisy to only accept vivid armhf crashes

 16:03 <bdmurray> updated errors code to display 17.04 / zesty

 16:03 <bdmurray> confirmed retracers are not still OOM'ing on _search_contents

 16:03 <bdmurray> discovered we are receiving a lot more core files so asked for more retracers

 16:03 <bdmurray> submitted apport merge proposal regarding zgrep fallback

 16:03 <bdmurray> research into apport memory utilization

 16:03 <bdmurray> investigated and uploaded fixes for X,Y,Z for unattended-upgrades bug 1590321

 16:03 <ubottu> bug 1590321 in unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu Yakkety) "/usr/bin/unattended-upgrade:FileNotFoundError:/usr/bin/unattended-upgrade@1468:main:get_dpkg_log_content" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1590321

 16:03 <bdmurray> submitted PR for unattended-upgrades bug 1590321, 1624641

 16:03 <ubottu> bug 1624641 in unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu Yakkety) "security updates with a new dependency don't get installed" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1624641

 16:03 <bdmurray> discovered, researched and fixed unattended-upgrades bug 1639977

 16:03 <bdmurray> investigation into u-r-u bug LP: #1633545

 16:03 <bdmurray> investigation into LP: #1604160

 16:03 <ubottu> bug 1639977 in unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu Yakkety) "/usr/bin/unattended-upgrade:FileNotFoundError:/usr/bin/unattended-upgrade@1468:main:write_stamp_file" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1639977

 16:03 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1633545 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "PermissionError on upgrading from 16.04 to 16.10" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1633545

 16:04 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1614576 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Xenial) "duplicate for #1604160 Upgrade from xenial to yakkety fails due to a UnicodeDecodeError" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1614576

 16:04 <bdmurray> created a test case for T -> X version of LP: #1614576

 16:04 <bdmurray> investigation into update-notifier bug LP: 1640318

 16:04 <bdmurray> out tomorrow for a US Holiday

 16:04 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1614576 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Xenial) "Upgrade from xenial to yakkety fails due to a UnicodeDecodeError" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1614576

 16:04 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1640318 in update-notifier (Ubuntu) "/usr/lib/update-notifier/package-data-downloader:OSError:process_download_requests:/usr/lib/update-notifier/package-data-downloader@305:process_download_requests:print_exc:print_exception" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1640318

 16:04 <bdmurray> ✔ done

 16:04 <slangasek> no sil2100?

 16:05 <slangasek> pitti:

 16:05 <pitti> autopkgtest:

 16:05 <pitti> - Fix github retry script to work for automatic build-git detection (for snapcraft)

 16:05 <pitti> - Figure out and document how to mass-retry tests more efficiently

 16:05 <pitti> - Fix ENOSPC on armhf slaves, file lxd bug (#1640128)

 16:05 <pitti> - Make request.cgi session cookie permanent, to avoid having to re-login to SSO after every browser restart

 16:05 <pitti> netplan:

 16:06 <pitti> - Make networkd and NM route metrics compatible (#1639754)

 16:06 <pitti> - Fix race condition in integration tests

 16:06 <pitti> - New release and SRU to xenial

 16:06 <pitti> - Some documentation fixes

 16:06 <pitti> systemd:

 16:06 <pitti> - Backport graphical session units for snappy (#1640293)

 16:06 <pitti> - Fix nspawn regression of exit code (Debian #843509)

 16:06 <pitti> - Fix tests to work on merged /usr testbed

 16:06 <pitti> - Write generic autopkgtest for CLI binaries (--help, --version, invalid option)

 16:06 <ubottu> Debian bug 843509 in systemd "systemd 232 breaks docker with "no subsystem for mount" error" [Important,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/843509

 16:06 <pitti> - Investigate/fix systemd logind test regression

 16:06 <pitti> misc:

 16:06 <pitti> - Prepare trusty SRUs for init-system-helpers and systemd for introducing "systemd deputy init" for snapd (#1616422)

 16:06 <pitti> - Backport "indefinite number of loop devices" support to trusty for snappy (ongoing) (#1640823)

 16:06 <pitti> - umockdev: Fix test regression, do new upstream release 0.8.12, package for D/U

 16:06 <pitti> - Help mvo with setting up snapd GitHub PR autopkgtests

 16:06 <pitti> - Prepare UOS netplan talk (ongoing)

 16:06 <pitti> - Review https://code.launchpad.net/~brian-murray/apport/zgrep-fallback/+merge/310218

 16:06 <pitti> - Review https://code.launchpad.net/~smoser/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/310386

 16:06 <pitti> EOF

 16:06 <xnox> Removing /boot partition from LVM installs, in progress.

 16:06 <xnox> Removing swap partitions / lowering swap usage, in progress.

 16:06 <xnox> boost1.62 transition - almost done (just individual packages remaining)

 16:06 <xnox> ssl unmigration - sticking to 1.0 for now

 16:06 <xnox> migration away from 1k keys, in progress.

 16:06 <xnox> zua testing

 16:06 <xnox> EOF

 16:07 <infinity> Short week due to illness:

 16:07 <infinity> - Working on ubuntu-image/cdimage integration

 16:07 <infinity> - Updating tzdata

 16:07 <infinity> - Generic SRU/AA stuff

 16:07 <infinity> - Signed up to help build a wall to keep out American refugees

 16:07 <infinity> Off tomorrow for Remembrance Day

 16:07 <infinity> NO CARRIER

 16:07 <slangasek> chiluk: hi, anything for this week?

 16:09 <slangasek> barry:

 16:09 <barry> ubuntu-image: various triaging, cleanups, discussions, reviews, etc.; LP: #1621445; LP: #1617421; ongoing fixes to autopkgtest/gh-ci setups; releases: 0.11 & SRUs

 16:09 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1621445 in Ubuntu Image "Suppress the traceback unless --debug is given" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1621445

 16:09 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1617421 in Ubuntu Image "human-readable error messages on parser failures, not python stacktraces" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1617421

 16:09 <barry> debuntu: claws-mail 3.14.1-1 syncpackage dropping ubuntu delta, testing (need to debug python plugin failures)

 16:09 <barry> other: upgrade laptop to zesty - filed several regression bugs ;)

 16:09 <barry> swapping tomorrow for 25-nov

 16:09 <barry> --done--

 16:09 <caribou> Bugfix:

 16:09 <caribou> Slow SSH login

 16:09 <caribou> - Still under investigation with LP: #1591411

 16:09 <caribou> - No more problem with failing server. Will test sil2100's fix if it restarts

 16:09 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1591411 in dbus (Ubuntu Yakkety) "systemd-logind must be restarted every ~1000 SSH logins to prevent a ~25 second delay" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1591411

 16:09 <caribou> Samba libnss-winbind / libpam-winbind static build (LP: #1584485)

 16:09 <caribou> - Uploaded to Z, SRUed to T, X & Y. Now in -proposed

 16:09 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1584485 in samba (Debian) "Upgrading samba to latest security fixes together with winbind in nsswitch.conf can harm entire OS" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1584485

 16:09 <caribou> tftp-hpa does not start on reboot (LP: #1342580)

 16:09 <caribou> - Waiting for Debian decision to backport their fix

 16:09 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1342580 in tftp-hpa (Ubuntu) "tftpd-hpa doesn't start on boot" [High,Expired] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1342580

 16:09 <caribou> Development:

 16:10 <caribou> makedumpfile not working on kernel 4.8 (LP: #1626269)

 16:10 <caribou> - Fixed in Debian. Synced to Zesty

 16:10 <caribou> - Preparing SRU for T, X & Y

 16:10 <ubottu> Error: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1626269 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1626269). The error has been logged

 16:10 <caribou> Misc SRU sponsoring : multipath-tools, python-pip, python-os-brick

 16:10 <caribou> Off tomorrow and sprinting next week in Malta

 16:10 <caribou> ☑ Done

 16:10 <cyphermox> - was at Plumbers last week,

 16:10 <cyphermox> - SRUs for shim to P, T, X, Y.

 16:10 <cyphermox> - testing shim updates via PPA.

 16:10 <cyphermox> - discussed SMT on ppc64el w/ infinity, smoser.

 16:10 <cyphermox> - more coordination for the IPv6 remote-root stuff, open-iscsi is now in proposed, still left with isc-dhcp and initramfs-tools.

 16:10 <cyphermox> - investigated JFS install failure on ppc64el some more, looks like a kernel issue.

 16:11 <cyphermox> - preparing wpa merge after a week testing at Plumbers.

 16:11 <cyphermox> (done)

 16:11 <slangasek> doko:

 16:12 <robru> no doko?

 16:12 <slangasek> sil2100: hi, would you like to go next?

 16:13 <sil2100> Uh oh! Please wait for me

 16:13 <slangasek> ok

 16:13 <sil2100> I just entered my apartment, need to prep a quick list

 16:13 <slangasek> robru:

 16:13 <robru> lp:bileto

 16:13 <robru> * db schema / json api cleanup

 16:13 <robru> * first snap iteration

 16:13 <robru> * UI redesign, better mobile support

 16:13 <robru> * FINALLY got creds in place for Ubuntu System Tests

 16:13 <robru> * Split qa_signoff into bileto-controlled qa and user-controlled qa_signoff fields.

 16:13 <robru> * Update to qakit r202.

 16:13 <robru> * Email ppa upload failures to bileto user.

 16:13 <robru> * Fix search by hitting enter.

 16:13 <robru> * Fix race condition when creating db tables.

 16:13 <robru> * Fix nagios check for new v2 api.

 16:13 <robru> * Handle Ctrl+Enter saving ticket fields

 16:13 <robru> lp:britney

 16:13 <robru> * a few more iterations towards source ppa grouping.

 16:13 <robru> lp:qakit, lp:queuebot, lp:phablet-tools, lp:ubuntu-silo-installer

 16:13 <robru> * Update for latest bileto json api changes

 16:13 <robru> (done)

 16:13 <tdaitx> sil2100, I'm last, you can go after me ;-)

 16:14 <slangasek> * Cloud sprint last week

 16:14 <slangasek> * SRU reviews

 16:14 <slangasek> * discussion around how to accurately map USNs to packages for Landscape

 16:14 <slangasek> * swap day yesterday for travel

 16:14 <slangasek> * US holiday tomorrow

 16:14 <slangasek> tdaitx:

 16:14 <slangasek> (done)

 16:14 <tdaitx> = OpenJDK Updates

 16:14 <tdaitx> * Fixed one security backport

 16:14 <tdaitx> * Provided OpenJDK 7 packages for the security team

 16:14 <tdaitx> * Split changes to OpenJDK 8 into a few git branches, in particular:

 16:14 <tdaitx> - aarch32 support, jtreg improvements, new buildwatch, use autoconf-2.68 on Precise, jvm cfg generation, -O3 strip fix

 16:14 <tdaitx> - official repo is in bazaar, but each change requires a separated bzr repo (and a single one already takes ages to upload)

 16:14 <tdaitx> * Investigated multiple gcc's "-O3" and "-O0" optimization flags on OpenJDK 8 for  PPC64LE during jdk's fdlibm builds; turns out debian/rules is only stripping -O2 but PPC64LE has "-O3" by default

 16:14 <tdaitx> * Investigated Debian #843784 as a possible regression due to the OpenJDK 7 update; for now it seems like an icedtea-web update is required (ongoing)

 16:14 <ubottu> Debian bug 843784 in openjdk-7-jre "openjdk-7-jre: After last security update, icedtea-plugin fails all applets" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/843784

 16:14 <tdaitx> * Investigating possible regression on the new OpenJDK 8 package; new test failures are due to the jtreg run mode; trying to force failed tests to run on othervm mode (ongoing)

 16:14 <tdaitx> * Review and clean-up of OpenJDK 7 patches while doing some MUT tests on the weekend, submitted a few upstream

 16:14 <tdaitx> (done)

 16:15 <slangasek> sil2100: ok, your turn :)

 16:15 <sil2100> Ok, a quick one

 16:15 <sil2100> - Work on ubuntu-image bugs (thanks barry for the reviews!)

 16:15 <sil2100> - Work on preparing OTA-14 images

 16:15 <sil2100> - Discussions on image building and the release process

 16:15 <sil2100> - Help with landings and the usual trainguard stuff

 16:15 <slangasek> sil2100: (done)?

 16:15 <sil2100> Ah! (done)

 16:15 <slangasek> ok :)

 16:15 <slangasek> any questions on status?

 16:15 <sil2100> Oh, and tomorrow is a national holiday

 16:15 <barry> sil2100: \o/

 16:16 <slangasek> sil2100: what holiday is it there? :)

 16:16 <sil2100> (possibly why the traffic was so terrible on my way back from my parents place)

 16:16 <slangasek> so far we have Armistice Day, Veterans Day, Remembrance Day

 16:16 <sil2100> Liberation Day

 16:16 <sil2100> Or Independence Day

 16:16 <sil2100> Something like that

 16:16 <sil2100> ;)

 16:17 <slangasek> nice

 16:17 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Sprint travel

 16:18 <slangasek> by this point everyone should already have booked their travel and gotten their travel details on the spreadsheet

 16:18 <slangasek> if you haven't, you're late :P

 16:18 <slangasek> and I will pester you all day until you get it in

 16:18 <slangasek> I haven't looked yet to see who is or isn't on the spreadsheet, so you have roughly an hour to get your request in before the nagging begins

 16:18 <slangasek> any questions? :)

 16:19 <bdmurray> If I'm going to be pestered I don't need to bother double checking right?

 16:19 <pitti> well played wrt. "optimizing your organization workflow"!

 16:19 <slangasek> heh

 16:20 <slangasek> [TOPIC] UOS

 16:20 <slangasek> UOS is next week

 16:20 <slangasek> pitti mentioned he's preparing a session to talk about netplan

 16:20 <pitti> I am yes

 16:20 <barry> there is a git workflow session in community on tuesday

 16:21 <slangasek> what else should we be talking about there?

 16:21 <pitti> some intro, and then some "what are the next steps/cloud-init integration" discussion

 16:21 <slangasek> infinity: do you think there should be a session for powerpc outreach?

 16:21 <xnox> slangasek, there is architecture session for both powerpc & i386 schedule already

 16:21 <xnox> please attend =)

 16:21 <slangasek> oh is there?

 16:22 <slangasek> that's new since when I looked at the schedule last

 16:22 <xnox> Removing /boot partition from LVM installs, in progress.

 16:22 <xnox> Removing swap partitions / lowering swap usage, in progress.

 16:22 <xnox> boost1.62 transition - almost done (just individual packages remaining)

 16:22 <xnox> ssl unmigration - sticking to 1.0 for now

 16:22 <xnox> migration away from 1k keys, in progress.

 16:22 <xnox> zua testing

 16:22 <xnox> EOF

 16:22 <xnox> bah

 16:22 <xnox> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1611/meeting/22714/architecture-discussions/

 16:22 <infinity> Wrong buffer. :P

 16:22 <xnox> infinity, i hate middle mouse stuff

 16:22 <xnox> "There have been discussions about flavors dropping either building CDs of: powerpc i386"

 16:22 <xnox> Let's get an update or let some more discussions happen live.

 16:23 <infinity> slangasek: I'm still sorting the private outreach.  I'm not sure that a UOS session would help.

 16:23 <slangasek> xnox: is it on the schedule, or yet-to-be-scheduled?

 16:23 <pitti> yes, Tuesday last sesion

 16:23 <xnox> it's on the shedule.... i think

 16:23 <pitti> 1900 UTC

 16:23 <infinity> But yes, the ISO disucssion is worth having.

 16:23 <slangasek> infinity: well, it seems there's a session on the calendar for it, so it doesn't hurt to include outreach in it if it's going to happen.  If nothing else, if you can get a mailing list set up before then you have somewhere to point people

 16:24 <infinity> I'd love to see us drop all 32-bit ISOs ASAP, personally, regardless of what long-term plans we have for the archive.

 16:25 <slangasek> sounds like Tuesday should be a good discussion, then :)

 16:25 <slangasek> what else for UOS?

 16:26 <barry> xnox: i'd like to try to figure out if the boost transition is what's breaking claws' python plugin.

 16:26 <slangasek> there's also a session about git-based package merge workflow, should be good

 16:26 <barry> yes

 16:26 <barry> 1600utc tuesday

 16:27 <caribou> slangasek: been using that workflow for the last two cycles

 16:27 <xnox> barry, i believe it is.

 16:28 <slangasek> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1611/meeting/22710/git-based-merge-workflow/

 16:28 <slangasek> that's the git

 16:28 <barry> xnox: clearly a rebuild alone doesn't fix it

 16:28 <slangasek> any other ideas for UOS sessions?

 16:28 <barry> caribou: i've used it for merges and it's miles better than the old way

 16:28 <cyphermox> do we have anything EFI-related to discuss?

 16:29 <slangasek> I'm not sure there's anything that needs broader discussion re EFI

 16:29 <cyphermox> just checking, I don't think so.

 16:29 <cyphermox> people tend to know to find us.

 16:31 <slangasek> ok, so if no other UOS proposals...

 16:32 <slangasek> [TOPIC] AOB

 16:32 <slangasek> anything else for the meeting?

 16:32 <bdmurray> Anybody have an idea about bug 1640318?

 16:32 <ubottu> bug 1640318 in update-notifier (Ubuntu) "/usr/lib/update-notifier/package-data-downloader:OSError:process_download_requests:/usr/lib/update-notifier/package-data-downloader@305:process_download_requests:print_exc:print_exception" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1640318

 16:33 <bdmurray> print is failing w/o an Input/output error

 16:33 <bdmurray> Should I just put it in a try / except and not worry about an SRU test case?

 16:34 <pitti> oh, running in an env where the parent process closed fd 1?

 16:34 <bdmurray> There are hundreds to look at in the Error Tracker

 16:34 <barry> yeah, why would fd1 get closed?

 16:35 <barry> but stderr isn't?

 16:35 <pitti> package-data-downloader sounds like something that would get spawned in the background, not on the CLI

 16:35 <pitti> barry: how do you know that stderr isn't?

 16:35 <barry> pitti: oh, i guess that traceback is getting printed to a file

 16:36 <bdmurray> pitti: right, its run via cron

 16:36 <pitti> barry: no, via apport handler I figure

 16:36 <bdmurray> cron.daily/update-notifier-common

 16:37 <pitti> bdmurray: hm, cron should have stdout and err (to a pipe)

 16:37 <barry> bdmurray: it would probably make more sense not to print status information if there's no stdout

 16:37 <infinity> print not flipping out if there's no stdout might also make sense. :P

 16:37 <pitti> bdmurray: but ignoring IOError on print seems fine to me, there's not really anything you can do about it

 16:37 <barry> which i guess a try/except (or contextlib.suppress) is a brute force way of doing that

 16:37 <infinity> A user of a high-level scripting language probably shouldn't have to care.

 16:38 <infinity> But I'd also kinda like to know the exact context in which that script doesn't have stdout.

 16:38 <infinity> Seems fishy.

 16:38 <barry> it kind of doesn't make sense for print to not flip out of there's no stdout.  although, you *could* give it an explicit file= arg and use stdout if available or os.devnull if not

 16:38 <infinity> cron should, apt should.

 16:39 <pitti> if cron dies, I'd expect a SIGPIPE, but that could just represent itself as an IOError

 16:39 <pitti> maybe your /dev/null is full

 16:39 <slangasek> A cron job certainly should have stdout, so it's a strange failure

 16:39 <barry> hmm

 16:40 <bdmurray> Oh, that reminds me of bug 1618900

 16:40 <ubottu> bug 1618900 in unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu) "[Xenial/0.90] Systemd dependencies issues when used in "Shutdown mode"" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1618900

 16:40 <infinity> Do we know for sure this is happening under cron, or is that wild guessing?

 16:40 <infinity> package-data-downloader is triggered from other places too.

 16:41 <bdmurray> infinity: I don't think we know its being called from cron, is there anything in the crash report that might give it away?

 16:41 <bdmurray> https://errors.ubuntu.com/oops/17e726c4-a6af-11e6-a2de-fa163e192766

 16:41 <infinity> Pid: 5464

 16:41 <infinity> PPid: 1

 16:41 <infinity> Its parent is init.

 16:41 <infinity> That's not what I'd expect a cron job to look like.

 16:42 <bdmurray> There's another with Pid: 9666

 16:42 <bdmurray> PPid: 9665

 16:42 <bdmurray> though

 16:43 <pitti> TERM=xterm-256color

 16:43 <pitti> that's also not something which I'd expect from a system job/cron job

 16:44 <bdmurray> Okay, so the decision maybe we shouldn't put the print in a try except and dig a bit deeper?

 16:44 <pitti> infinity: double-fork/detach?

 16:45 <infinity> pitti: Yeah, but why and where? :P

 16:45 <slangasek> infinity: what else besides cron and apt is triggering package-data-downloader?

 16:46 <infinity> slangasek: I would think only those two.  Well, I would hope.

 16:46 <infinity> Also, I need to run to the little developers' room.

 16:47 <slangasek> bdmurray: I think it's reasonable to put it in try/except because we should be resilient in the face of fd issues, but I think we also want to dig deeper

 16:47 * doko reads backlog, sorry for being late

 16:48 <barry> bdmurray: yeah, i think dig a little deeper, but worse comes to worse, the try/except or contextlib.suppress is a terrible, but useful hammer

 16:48 <slangasek> doko: hi, want to give a quick status?

 16:48 <bdmurray> wrt digging deeper is there anything to query the crashdb for?

 16:49 <doko> - prepare and test gcc-5 update for xenial (ppc64el only)

 16:49 <doko> - tracking down ld.gold arm64 ICE, ftbfs in gitit

 16:49 <doko> - track down and fix gcc-6 Linaro regression

 16:49 <doko> - merge GCC 6

 16:49 <doko> - prepare and upload binutils trunk builds

 16:49 <doko> - merged tdaitx's openjdk-8 changes

 16:49 <doko> - python3.6 beta3 release

 16:49 <doko> - openjdk-9 update

 16:49 <doko> - first GCC 7 packages

 16:49 <doko> - merges, syncs ...

 16:49 <doko> (done)

 16:49 <slangasek> bdmurray: I guess you could look for similar IOErrors

 16:49 <slangasek> doko: thanks

 16:50 <slangasek> bdmurray: if there's not an obvious way forward then it's not worth spinning wheels on, in any case

 16:51 <slangasek> just something to keep in the back pocket, as "hey we noticed this weird thing where a script that was supposed to be running from a cronjob had no stdout, that's never supposed to happen"

 16:51 <bdmurray> roger

 16:52 <slangasek> ok, anything else?

 16:53 <slangasek> #endmeeting



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