== Meeting information == * #ubuntu-meeting: ubuntu-server-team, 20 Sep at 16:00 — 16:37 UTC * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-09-20-16.00.log.html]] == Meeting summary == === Review ACTION points from previous meeting === The discussion about "Review ACTION points from previous meeting" started at 16:01. * ''ACTION:'' jgrimm Add a url for server release bugs to irc commands for meetings === Yakkety Development === The discussion about "Yakkety Development" started at 16:02. * ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/ReleaseSchedule * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-y-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server === Server & Cloud Bugs (caribou) === The discussion about "Server & Cloud Bugs (caribou)" started at 16:09. === Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (powersj) === The discussion about "Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (powersj)" started at 16:11. * ''LINK:'' https://jenkins.ubuntu.com/server/ * ''LINK:'' https://github.com/powersj/ubuntu-server-triage === Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee, arges) === The discussion about "Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee, arges)" started at 16:14. * ''ACTION:'' jamespage checking with old iscsitarget users on relevancy with new kernels === Upcoming Call For Papers === The discussion about "Upcoming Call For Papers" started at 16:18. === Ubuntu Server Team Events === The discussion about "Ubuntu Server Team Events" started at 16:18. * ''LINK:'' https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1mCRAkUO78_Jud9DhFR922AoxrZpGsLbzsPI_SmS0U1U === Open Discussion === The discussion about "Open Discussion" started at 16:21. * ''ACTION:'' powersj to put together iso testing signup sheet === Assign daily bug triage for week (powersj, rbasak, nacc, cpaelzer) === The discussion about "Assign daily bug triage for week (powersj, rbasak, nacc, cpaelzer)" started at 16:25. === Assigned merges/bugwork (rbasak) === The discussion about "Assigned merges/bugwork (rbasak)" started at 16:29. === Announce next meeting date, time and chair === The discussion about "Announce next meeting date, time and chair" started at 16:36. == Vote results == == Action items, by person == * jamespage * jamespage checking with old iscsitarget users on relevancy with new kernels * jgrimm * jgrimm Add a url for server release bugs to irc commands for meetings * powersj * powersj to put together iso testing signup sheet == Done items == * (none) == People present (lines said) == * jamespage (81) * powersj (29) * rbasak (28) * cpaelzer_ (23) * nacc (21) * jgrimm (15) * smb (9) * meetingology (6) * caribou (4) * xnox (2) == Full Log == 16:00 #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team 16:00 Meeting started Tue Sep 20 16:00:54 2016 UTC. The chair is jamespage. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 16:00 16:00 Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 16:00 welcome! 16:00 o/ 16:01 #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting 16:01 (jgrimm) Add a url for server release bugs to irc commands for meetings 16:01 not that I can see just yet? 16:01 jamespage, leave it there. i want to discuss later 16:01 #action jgrimm Add a url for server release bugs to irc commands for meetings 16:01 * meetingology jgrimm Add a url for server release bugs to irc commands for meetings 16:02 right 16:02 thanks 16:02 #topic Yakkety Development 16:02 #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/ReleaseSchedule 16:02 Final Beta on thursday 16:02 Final freeze on the 6th October 16:02 #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-y-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server 16:03 nothing interesting therein. 16:03 nope 16:03 anything else to raise? I know I have an expected ovs 2.6.0 release this week to handle 16:03 we've been running snapshots to-date 16:03 I wait for this snap to get tested with dpdk 16:04 jgrimm, anything from you? 16:04 but I think I covered the config dpdk on OVS 2.6 bug 16:04 jamespage, i'm good 16:04 cpaelzer_, you did - thankyou 16:04 one more thing from me 16:04 I uploaded a new qemu which changes machine types for migration (meintioned two weeks ago) 16:04 if anybody runs into new unexpected issues please let me know 16:04 testing can never be complete enough 16:04 jgrimm: one update on the openipim MR/FFe -- upstream openipmi has no news or changelog file that is current. Which means the FFe is going to be quite a bit of work to submit :/ 16:05 *openipmi 16:05 that's annoying 16:06 jgrimm: yeah... it's unclear to me how much effort it's worth spending at this point in the cycle? 16:06 ok, chat with me later. leaning that direction 16:06 nacc, what's the driver? 16:06 jamespage, nothing but currency 16:06 debian has a new version? 16:06 and embarassingly that i told jgrimm it was already done :) 16:06 lol 16:06 heh. i was leaving that out. :) 16:07 jamespage: newer than what is in yakkety, yeah 16:07 .18 -> .22 16:07 its only a patch update 16:07 how big is the debdiff? I'd debate whether this even needs a FFe 16:07 the merge itself is very complicated 16:08 well, relatively speaking 16:08 ah so that's where the risk lies 16:08 imo, yeah 16:08 also, openipmi versioning is garbage 16:08 lol 16:08 right so its not really a patch release 16:08 and 2.0.18 -> 2.0.22 is not necessarily compatible, might be major changes 16:08 I like those ones 16:08 yeah 16:08 okies 16:08 and without a changelog/news, i ahve to go look at the commits :) 16:08 jgrimm, nacc: I'd probably timebox effort - and then postpone to +1 if its not looking likely 16:09 anything else for yakkety? we have the normal slew of rc's going in for openstack - release is on the 6th 16:09 jamespage, seems reasonable. thanks 16:09 jamespage: ack 16:09 #topic Server & Cloud Bugs (caribou) 16:09 caribou, you're up! 16:10 not much to bring up 16:10 fixed some APT bug 16:10 oh, & working on a sosreport charm 16:10 that's it 16:10 caribou, that might make a nice action on any charm tbh 16:11 any questions for caribou? 16:11 ... 16:11 .. 16:11 nope 16:11 . 16:11 ok moving on 16:11 #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (powersj) 16:11 Four remaining automated ISO failures 2x yakkety lxc (still triaging) 2x trusty minimal-virtual (LP# 1625675). Also have the 6x disk-footprint tests to get working. 16:11 powersj, hello! 16:11 howdy! 16:11 Working on Ubuntu server ISO oversize issues. Filing bug against ghostscript for pulling in a 70+MB font package. 16:11 Added s390x testing to simplestreams. Triage of Curtin vmtest issues. Submitting request to add i386 slave to Jenkins today. Met with cpaelzer to get QEMU migration tests into Jenkins. 16:11 Bug triage here and there. Thanks to rbasak for merge request to Ubuntu Sever triage script. 16:12 #link https://jenkins.ubuntu.com/server/ 16:12 questions? 16:12 comments? suggestions? jokes? 16:12 powersj: can you provide a link to the tool here too? 16:12 *script 16:12 https://github.com/powersj/ubuntu-server-triage 16:12 thanks! 16:13 thanks powersj 16:13 np! 16:14 #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee, arges) 16:14 We might be that >..< close to move to kernel 4.8 for yakkety. Still it is hard to say when for real. Also there was something I thought of bringing up if I could remember... cpaelzer_ , maybe you do? I only find empty space in my brain today ... :/ And we talked about it just yesterday... 16:14 hands over an iscsi reminder to smb 16:14 ah right 16:14 smb, wow that's a late switch! 16:14 question is the iscsitarget dkms package 16:15 * jamespage shivers a little 16:15 not sure anybody really uses that one still because there is an iscsi target in the kernel 16:15 tgt and lio right? 16:15 maybe iscsitarget as well? 16:15 tgt is the userspace part 16:16 ah yes 16:16 iscsitarget no longer compiles with 4.6 + kernels and upstream has not done any change for a year or more 16:16 So we kind of would want to drop it in yakkety 16:17 and see whether anybody starts screaming 16:17 smb, I remember some users at rackspace cloud 16:17 we might want to check whether they are still users 16:17 leave that with me 16:17 jamespage, ack, thanks 16:17 #action jamespage checking with old iscsitarget users on relevancy with new kernels 16:17 * meetingology jamespage checking with old iscsitarget users on relevancy with new kernels 16:18 #topic Upcoming Call For Papers 16:18 any calls for papers? 16:18 ... 16:18 .. 16:18 . 16:18 no ok 16:18 #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events 16:18 openstack summit is in a month in barcelona - there will be a few ubuntu-server team members there 16:19 anything else? 16:19 ... 16:19 here 16:19 typing 16:19 cpaelzer_, ok 16:19 * jamespage waits for cpaelzer_ to type 16:19 for former CFP topic 16:19 almost forgot 16:20 if anybody likes to pick typos and other things to complain about feel free to take a look at 16:20 https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1mCRAkUO78_Jud9DhFR922AoxrZpGsLbzsPI_SmS0U1U 16:20 done 16:20 thanks jamespage for waiting on my slow typing 16:20 np cpaelzer_ 16:21 good luck :-) 16:21 #topic Open Discussion 16:21 any open things? 16:21 rbasak, iso testing? 16:22 Yeah 16:22 how should we plan for that? 16:22 So we've been caught short with ISO testing needs during release week in the past. 16:22 I thought we could try and nominate testers in advance for that. 16:22 So people can schedule in some time. 16:22 is this just a final set of eyes on what the automated testing does right? 16:23 Some of the automated testing is broken, isn't it? 16:23 We had to do some testing manually last time. 16:23 correct - however I was more concerned with the manual testing 16:23 re: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ 16:23 I believe some of that was supposed to be automated so we didn't need to do it manually. That's what I believe broke at some point. 16:24 yeah - the iso test cases had automated counterparts at one point in time 16:24 * jamespage wrote v1 of that system about 6 years ago 16:24 well in that case, the yakkety ISO tests are all passing, except the lxc ones 16:24 I just thought that if anything manual is required, we could assign it ahead of time. Perhaps to me, nacc, cpaelzer_ with powersj taking point. 16:24 yeah 16:24 That's all I think needs doing. 16:24 ok 16:24 well, share the pain - thats ok 16:25 ok I'll put a sheet together and we cna sign up 16:25 Thanks! 16:25 IIRC in the past xnox did the s390 testing 16:25 so it might not be on us only 16:25 #action powersj to put together iso testing signup sheet 16:25 * meetingology powersj to put together iso testing signup sheet 16:25 #topic Assign daily bug triage for week (powersj, rbasak, nacc, cpaelzer) 16:25 Thank you for bringing that up powersj 16:25 np 16:25 I think this topic is running itself now, along with the bug assignments. 16:26 yeah 16:26 good oh 16:26 Does anyone feel we still need these on the agenda? 16:26 FYI I am sprinting next week, so up to 3 of you 16:26 powersj: is the triage rota adjusted appropriately? 16:26 imo, we can pull it off given it seems to be working, when rbasak does his triage ;) 16:26 Oh 16:26 yes 16:26 I believe I'm out next week too 16:26 no objections to my assignments for like the next 10 days 16:26 jamespage, LPAR cannot be end to end automate. z/VM kind of can be - I have some preseeds that are running semi-automated via ssh and c3270 access, KVM can be automated against these, but currently is not. 16:26 I caught up on my triaging backlog today :) 16:27 jamespage, overall it's not automated, and there is no iso.qa.ubuntu.com gated release 16:27 woohoo 16:27 rbasak: you are on 30th septmber next week 16:28 cpaelzer_: that's for me to do on Monday, so I guess that's fine? 16:28 yeah 16:28 cpaelzer_, and nacc do daily triage all next week 16:28 rbasak and I take the following week 16:29 ok 16:29 all good then? 16:29 I think so 16:29 great 16:29 #topic Assigned merges/bugwork (rbasak) 16:29 powersj: ack 16:29 Any comments on bugwork progress? 16:29 this one can also be dropped then, from future agendas? 16:29 or do we want to keep it for a while? 16:29 I'm fine to drop it. 16:30 We could move any required bugwork discussion into the "Yakkety Development" topic 16:30 +1 16:30 in theory, it should be business as usual, unless blocked on something, and bring it up there? 16:30 rbasak, i think i need to do a sweep through it with you.. i think some reassignments may be in order 16:30 OK 16:30 or some nudging by me. :) 16:31 rbasak, fwiw I could use 2 more small ones if you have 'em 16:31 powersj: OK, I'll look for some for you. 16:31 powersj: feel free to cherry-pick from the backlog yourself if you like. 16:31 ok 16:31 I'll do that 16:31 I was trying to pick ones that may lead to easy uploads to get you some experience of that. 16:31 rbasak, i'll probably grab a new one too 16:32 The "bitesize" tagged ones can be useful for ths. 16:32 I already grabbed a few and added them to the list 16:32 so no new new ones to be taken atm unfortunately 16:32 Yeah I've done the same. 16:36 jamespage: I guess we're done with this topic? 16:36 #topic Announce next meeting date, time and chair 16:36 ok so looks like its arosales 16:36 same time next week folks 16:37 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)