== Meeting information == * #ubuntu-meeting: ubuntu-server-team, 29 Mar at 16:02 — 16:48 UTC * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-03-29-16.02.log.html]] == Meeting summary == === Review ACTION points from previous meeting === The discussion about "Review ACTION points from previous meeting" started at 16:03. === Xenial Development === The discussion about "Xenial Development" started at 16:06. * ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule * ''LINK:'' https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+queue?queue_state=1 * ''LINK:'' http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html * ''ACTION:'' jgrimm find owner for vsftpd test failures * ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2016-March/007195.html * ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/SystemDocumentation/UbuntuServerGuide * ''ACTION:'' jgrimm understand timeline/process around serverguide * '''Release Bugs''' (16:25) * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-w-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server === Server & Cloud Bugs (caribou) === The discussion about "Server & Cloud Bugs (caribou)" started at 16:28. === Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (matsubara) === The discussion about "Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (matsubara)" started at 16:30. === Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee, arges) === The discussion about "Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee, arges)" started at 16:31. === Upcoming Call For Papers === The discussion about "Upcoming Call For Papers" started at 16:31. === Ubuntu Server Team Events === The discussion about "Ubuntu Server Team Events" started at 16:34. === Open Discussion === The discussion about "Open Discussion" started at 16:34. * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/squid3/+bug/1473691/comments/18 === Announce next meeting date, time and chair === The discussion about "Announce next meeting date, time and chair" started at 16:47. == Vote results == == Action items, by person == * jgrimm * jgrimm find owner for vsftpd test failures * jgrimm understand timeline/process around serverguide == Done items == * (none) == People present (lines said) == * jgrimm (82) * rharper (21) * caribou (16) * teward (15) * cpaelzer (13) * meetingology (5) * matsubara (4) * nacc (2) * ubottu (2) * smb (1) * cyphermox (1) == Full Log == 16:02 #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team 16:02 Meeting started Tue Mar 29 16:02:42 2016 UTC. The chair is jgrimm. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 16:02 16:02 Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 16:03 hi all, crazy busy last week for beta2. thanks for all the hard work 16:03 #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting 16:03 jgrimm to update/clean up blueprint 16:04 Done. Updated it this morning 16:04 and updated by teward. thanks! 16:04 updated by me due to things I have to do heh :P 16:04 you're welcome. 16:04 caribou to investigate if kickin's clamav merge should land 16:05 caribou around? 16:05 jgrimm: yep 16:05 jgrimm: Debian have put out a new 0.99.1 16:05 I feel like we might just want to wait for the next merge window 16:06 caribou, yes. i agree 16:06 the only major thing is LLVM3.6 16:06 too late and we need to move to bugs 16:06 jgrimm: agree 16:06 thanks caribou 16:06 np 16:06 #topic Xenial Development 16:07 #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule 16:07 Final Beta is out. Bug hunting mode now for most part 16:08 don't need to hunt for them, they seem to come at me rather easily :) 16:08 a few things hanging stuck in proposed atm.. 16:08 squid3 -> rharper is looking at it 16:08 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+queue?queue_state=1 16:09 also hanging in case one looks for his uploadas 16:09 :) 16:09 and vsftpd been stuck there for >40 days and needs someone to look at it yet 16:09 #link http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html 16:10 #action jgrimm find owner for vsftpd test failures 16:10 * meetingology jgrimm find owner for vsftpd test failures 16:11 cpaelzer, how is dpdk testing going? 16:11 * jgrimm knows the answer, but giving cpaelzer a chance to share 16:12 cpaelzer? 16:12 jgrimm: I'll do a pass at vsftpd test failure & try to help 16:12 caribou, you rock! 16:13 thanks 16:13 jgrimm: tests good 16:13 jgrimm: finally a running openvswitch-dpdk 16:13 jgrimm: I'm convinced to get something reasly usable over this week into my test automation 16:14 jgrimm: already prepared for performance comparisons of ovs vs ovs-dpdk one day 16:14 cpaelzer, very nice. Have you given thought to documentation? ServerGuide? 16:14 jgrimm: thought yes, time not yet 16:15 :) no worries. just wanted to remind. 16:15 jgrimm: but I wanted to create a how-to-use-dpdk anyway for a blog post - can as well go to server doc 16:15 excellent. tx! 16:15 jgrimm: what was the deadline on the server guide contributions? 16:16 #link https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2016-March/007195.html 16:16 #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/SystemDocumentation/UbuntuServerGuide 16:17 yeah I saw the mail thread, I'll just give it a try - thanks 16:17 cpaelzer, yeah, i don't recall the timeline, i need to look that up too. 16:18 #action jgrimm understand timeline/process around serverguide 16:18 * meetingology jgrimm understand timeline/process around serverguide 16:18 does that apply ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationStringFreeze 16:18 that would be in the past (17th March) 16:18 cpaelzer, not sure 16:18 well you will calrify via your action item 16:18 heh. of course 16:19 more xenial topics? anything to share? 16:19 nginx 1.9.13 released today upstream, i'm going to hunt getting that into Xenial, but i won't be able to start on that until April 1 (hence why it's in that section of the work items on the blueprint); it'll need an FFe, but I'll work with the Release team on that. 16:19 jgrimm: you might want to ping pmatulis over this 16:19 this = server guide 16:19 caribou, ack 16:19 jgrimm: just giving the note on that item for nginx, it's on my list of things :) 16:19 hopefully it gets reviewed before FinalFreeze, though the 1.10.x item is going to be... more tricky... 16:20 teward, indeed, I was going to ask you what sort of reality would be around 1.10 16:20 is there a date in mind for that being released? 16:20 jgrimm: good question, i'm working with both Release and Security on multiple issues surrounding nginx in Xenial right now 16:20 jgrimm: when nginx tells me a firm date, I'll be able to give you a clear answer. 16:20 teward, ack. thanks for the update 16:21 Last time I checked right before Easter, there was no firm date set, but predicted time is a couple days before, or after, we release 16:21 ok, i won't hold out much hope for it then 16:21 hence looping Release and Security in together, given that post-release if it ends up SRU'd, it'd be important enough for Security to include an update possibly. I'll coordinate with sarnold and the rest of the Security team when that's closer. 16:21 teward, excellent. tx 16:21 jgrimm: we had touched base with the TB initially on this, before the SRU policy changes 16:22 k 16:22 and it had been considered post-release SRU of 1.10.x in, or right before we release include 1.10.x depending on nginx release date 16:22 k 16:22 either way, it'd be available 'somewhere' in Xenial. 16:22 :) 16:22 until i hear otherwise, that's what I assume is going to be the case 16:23 gotcha 16:23 HTTP/2 is sooner on my radar than 1.10.x though, and I'm coordinating with Security Team on that discussion (attn: sarnold) 16:23 that would be great 16:24 I'd love to turn that on before FinalFreeze, but like 1.10.x, it may get in post-release. rbasak I think was on the list of people in that discussion, but ultimately I'm going to keep coordinating with the SEcurity Team on that (they're the ones that have to remove the "Don't enable HTTP/2" restriction in place now) 16:24 k 16:24 anyone else? 16:25 i know nacc is continuing to plug away at removing php5. probably at least a week of work yet 16:25 moving on 16:25 #subtopic Release Bugs 16:26 #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-w-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server 16:27 anyone have anything to discuss or point out there? 16:27 jgrimm: ack, < 300 packages left at this point :) 16:28 nacc, \o/ 16:28 #topic Server & Cloud Bugs (caribou) 16:29 not much to talk about; trying to enable zfcpdump on s390x 16:29 & now looking at vsftpd DEP8 tests ;-) 16:29 :) much appreciated! 16:29 moving on 16:30 #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (matsubara) 16:30 jgrimm, cyphermox is working on the installer bug that was raised last week 16:30 jgrimm, bug 1559507 16:30 bug 1549529 in console-setup (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1559507 The keyboard is still installed as US-English even if another language is selected during the installation" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1549529 16:31 that's all I have to report 16:31 matsubara, thanks! 16:31 #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee, arges) 16:31 Nothing to report from kernel. 16:31 thanks smb 16:31 #topic Upcoming Call For Papers 16:32 matsubara: jgrimm: that was fixed last week 16:32 cyphermox, excellent. thanks! 16:33 i don't see any interesting CFP on LWN calendar 16:34 #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events 16:34 Anyone 16:34 thanks cyphermox 16:34 #topic Open Discussion 16:34 rharper, since you just popped on. can you update on recap and update on tgt & squid3 16:35 err. recap and update on tgt & squid3 16:37 sure 16:37 tx 16:37 I'm not ready to say that AIO is something we're ready to support 16:37 so, I'll drop the FFE, I have a new debdiff with the new source from debian (allowing us to drop a patch that's already upstream) 16:37 and not enable AIO (delta from debian) 16:38 I'll update the BZ today and then search for a sponser (it'll be a really small diff) 16:38 perfect. 16:38 on squid3, there was an issue during dist-upgrade of squid in xenial proposed where the postinst scripts would not complete without error 16:39 the cause is the script (From upstream) checks for /etc/squid3 and then assumes that the /etc/init.d/ is named the same (squid3); this is not the case in our package; 16:39 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/squid3/+bug/1473691/comments/18 16:39 Launchpad bug 1473691 in squid3 (Ubuntu) "[FFe] squid: Update to latest upstream release (3.5)" [Wishlist,Fix committed] 16:39 adding some logic to find the right service file name in that case, resolves the issue, the upgrade completes and I verified that both squid-deb-proxy and squid-guard, configured in 14.04, continue to work in Xenial 16:40 I'm not 100% certain about why the init script has the case it does; it seems like debian should have the same bug then; I've not verified that 16:40 rharper: last I checked, debian went from squid3 to squid, that might explain it 16:40 caribou: we did the same 16:41 oh right 16:41 I'm guessing that if we did the same dist-upgrade test in debian (from a squid3 to squid) it'll fail the same way; I can confirm 16:41 in which case, we can push a fix into debian; 16:41 cool. 16:42 I can regen the debdiff for squid if no one else is going to; would like some other ubuntu-dev eyes to check that it's a sane thing to do 16:42 one other topic on squid3 16:43 the maas team raised a concern about the new squid package service now being named squid (/etc/init.d/squid) vs (/etc/init.d/squid3) and wanted an alias to help transition 16:43 I did a minimal search and asked in #ubuntu-devel, but I've not found any existing/prior cases of including an alias for service names 16:43 does anyone here know of one, or a policy that would apply 16:44 rbasak replied to the bug indicating that it's understable to break in the transition to a new LTS; I tend to agree with that; maas team which depends upon squid was concerned given the lateness in the cycle; but without prior example, I worry more about long term support of including the alias 16:44 if anyone knows more, please comment in the bug 16:44 jgrimm: ok, I think that covers those two 16:45 rharper, cool. you might try the ml too (small turnout here) 16:45 thank you very much 16:46 gotcha 16:46 and for the quick sleuthing, really need new squid3 to get real world testing on it and this has hung out for a long time 16:46 ok, anything else? 16:46 rharper: by alias, do you mean a transitional package ? 16:47 caribou: an init-script alias (as the service has changed name from squid3 -> squid) 16:47 nacc: ak gotcha 16:47 thanks 16:47 i think we are done for today 16:47 #topic Announce next meeting date, time and chair 16:48 Tuesday 2016-04-05 at 1600 UTC - #ubuntu-meeting and gaughen will be the next chair 16:48 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)