== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-meeting Meeting, 17 Mar at 15:03 — 15:46 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-03-17-15.03.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

=== Lightning round ===
The discussion about "Lightning round" started at 15:03.


=== Schprint ===
The discussion about "Schprint" started at 15:29.


=== AOB ===
The discussion about "AOB" started at 15:32.

  * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openipmi/+bug/1546735/comments/4 



== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * slangasek (51)
 * infinity (30)
 * cyphermox (28)
 * xnox (26)
 * pitti (24)
 * bdmurray (23)
 * tdaitx (14)
 * ubottu (11)
 * robru (5)
 * slashd (5)
 * barry (4)
 * meetingology (3)
 * ogra_ (1)



== Full Log ==


 15:03 <slangasek> #startmeeting

 15:03 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Mar 17 15:03:12 2016 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 15:03 <meetingology> 

 15:03 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 15:03 <slangasek> pitti: you know you missed me

 15:03 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Lightning round

 15:04 <xnox> bah

 15:04 <slangasek> xnox: ... humbug?

 15:04 <slangasek> $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko bdmurray slangasek caribou infinity sil2100 robru cyphermox pitti tdaitx xnox chiluk)

 15:04 <slangasek> sil2100 pitti infinity caribou cyphermox chiluk doko slangasek robru barry tdaitx xnox bdmurray

 15:05 <slangasek> no sil2100 on IRC at the moment

 15:05 <slangasek> pitti:

 15:05 <pitti> autopkgtest:

 15:05 <pitti> - Fix fallback handling of build profiles on trusty

 15:05 <pitti> - Fix selftest regressions

 15:05 <pitti> - britney: Fix crash when processing broken results

 15:05 <pitti> distro:

 15:05 <pitti> - docker: Fix service file for self-managed cgroup hierarchies (#1546214)

 15:06 <pitti> - ecryptfs: Try to reproduce swap regression, WFM (#1447282)

 15:06 <pitti> - linux: Investigate overlayfs permission regression (#1555997)

 15:06 <pitti> - lxd: Fix autopkgtest regression

 15:06 <pitti> - merges: puppet, util-linux (to fix upgrade failure #1556539)

 15:06 <pitti> - lots of archive admin to get rid of some cruft, run process-removeals

 15:06 <pitti> - wxbanker: Update to new upstream version to work with wx 3.0 (#1544170)

 15:06 <pitti> - Debug shutdown hang, due to bind9 library regression (#1556175)

 15:06 <pitti> - Discuss cloud-init network configuration with smoser

 15:06 <pitti> error-tracker vsprint since Tuesday:

 15:06 <pitti> - got the beast set up at last, documented steps and workarounds on the etherpad for now

 15:06 <pitti> - landed to small improvements, a tricky encoding fix causing crashes, and improvement of Python crash detection so far

 15:06 <pitti> (done)

 15:06 <infinity> - Random SRU, AA, and release things

 15:06 <infinity> - glibc 2.23 -- currently hunting test failures in PPA

 15:06 <infinity> - linux-lts-xenial reviewed (and reviewed and reviewed) and landed

 15:06 <infinity> - Training Andy to do AA and SRU tasks

 15:06 <infinity> - tzdata updates

 15:06 <infinity> - git updates

 15:06 <infinity> - Found and fixed kernel bug blocking powerpc scalingstack

 15:06 <infinity> (done)

 15:07 <slangasek> infinity: test failures is build-time test failures?

 15:07 <infinity> slangasek: Yes.

 15:08 <bdmurray> caribou: ?

 15:09 <tdaitx> cyphermox: lead the way, caribou is away now

 15:09 <cyphermox> - NetworkManager dnsmasq patch porting

 15:09 <cyphermox> - debootstrap InRelease file support (bug LP: #1485511)

 15:09 <cyphermox> - debugging netcfg ipv4 missing (bug LP: #1556177)

 15:09 <cyphermox> - debugging oem install network setup

 15:09 <cyphermox> - fighting Secure Boot Mok variables/mokutil

 15:09 <cyphermox> - uploaded dkms 2.2.0.3-2ubuntu10 and grub2 2.02~beta2-36ubuntu1

 15:09 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1485511 in debootstrap (Ubuntu) "ISST-KVM:CTE:R3-0:raing12: Base system install fails with "Debootstrap Error :Invalid Release signature (key id 40976EAF437D05B5) " using Ubuntu 15.10 latest daily build (20150805)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1485511

 15:09 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1556177 in netcfg (Ubuntu) "After Ubuntu16.04 VM installation on brazos LPAR, Network does not come up" [Critical,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1556177

 15:10 <cyphermox> - get mokutil building on other architectures

 15:10 <cyphermox> - hw-detect multipath fixes from mauricfo

 15:10 <cyphermox> - investigate minimum ESP size

 15:10 <cyphermox> - investigating missing daily images

 15:10 <cyphermox> - more libcxl review

 15:10 <slangasek> chiluk asked to skip him

 15:10 <cyphermox> - review & upload ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu

 15:10 <cyphermox> - reviewed EFI timer patches for dannf

 15:10 <cyphermox> - sponsoring os-prober fix from smb (bug LP: #1374759)

 15:10 <slangasek> oh, still more text, sorry :)

 15:10 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1374759 in os-prober (Ubuntu) ">>>WARNING<<< Wrong ufstype may corrupt your filesystem, default is ufstype=old" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1374759

 15:10 <cyphermox> - updating NetworkManager to 1.2

 15:10 <cyphermox> - upgrades, upgrades, upgrades

 15:10 <cyphermox> (done)

 15:10 <cyphermox> yeah, sorry, I paste a few lines at once only, to not get killed for flooding

 15:11 <cyphermox> (and also because Cisco FWSM taught me pasting is evil)

 15:11 <cyphermox> doko?

 15:12 <pitti> cyphermox: do you have a rough eta for landing NM?

 15:12 <pitti> we should give that a few weeks testing in devel at least

 15:13 <cyphermox> not really. I'm fighting gdbus, and I think other things have priority than updating software, like fixing big bad ugly bugs.

 15:13 <pitti> bdmurray?

 15:13 <cyphermox> NM is my off-hours work late at night

 15:13 <slangasek> doko said he would miss this meeting

 15:13 <slangasek> (said he would send status by email, though I don't see it yet)

 15:14 <infinity> Is he still waffling on if he's VAC or not?

 15:14 <bdmurray> pitti: ? I'm last I think

 15:14 <cyphermox> slangasek: you're next :)

 15:14 <slangasek> cyphermox: is there an FFe for updating NM?

 15:14 <pitti> bdmurray: oh sorry, read the wrong line

 15:14 <slangasek> or, what's driving the update to 1.2?

 15:14 <cyphermox> yes, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-openconnect/+bug/1552424

 15:14 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1552424 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "[FFE] NetworkManager 1.2-beta" [Undecided,Confirmed]

 15:15 <cyphermox> ^ for all the NMs

 15:15 <cyphermox> incomplete, because stuff needed porting and thus couldn't be built yet

 15:15 <slangasek> infinity: he is not on vacation but he has some evening time-of-day constraints currently

 15:15 <infinity> slangasek: *nod*

 15:15 <infinity> Square dancing is important.

 15:16 <slangasek> * short week, due to paternity leave

 15:16 <slangasek> * feedings

 15:16 <slangasek> * changings

 15:16 <slangasek> * php7.0 transition sponsorship

 15:16 <slangasek> * lots of email catch-up

 15:16 <slangasek> * reviewing https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/germinate/+git/germinate/+merge/285180 to try to move the archive reorg story forward for 16.04

 15:16 <slangasek> * working through performance reviews for the team, to be completed this week to keep everything on schedule

 15:16 <slangasek> (done)

 15:16 <robru> * work on ephemeral ppas / jenkins replacement continues (mostly test-writing this week)

 15:16 <robru> * error tracker sprint: got a successfull error tracker deployment in canonistack

 15:16 <robru> * missed a day due to illness

 15:16 <robru> (done)

 15:17 <barry> pycurl 7.43.0-1, 7.43.0-1ubuntu1, zope.event 4.2.0-1, libpeas discussions in debian (debian bug #806824 w/follow up bug & blocks), pyflakes 1.1.0-1, pep8 1.7.0-2 (w/ git-dpm-ifying & bug triaging), flake8 2.5.4-2, LP: #1555723, nose2 0.6.4-1, pip 8.1.1-1

 15:17 <ubottu> Debian bug 806824 in src:libpeas "libpeas: Split Python 2 and 3 support" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/806824

 15:17 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1555723 in python-cryptography (Ubuntu) "pip is breaking in ppc64el" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1555723

 15:17 <barry> error tracking sprint (well, trying and succeeding to repair my vpn settings, trying to and failing miserably to find my mojo).  LP: #1543350

 15:17 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1543350 in Errors "Examples Table has a misleading name" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1543350

 15:17 <barry> LP: #1558190

 15:17 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1558190 in Ubuntu system image "config.d directory and .ini files have zero mtime" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1558190

 15:17 <barry> --done--

 15:17 <tdaitx> pitti: whats the etherpad for the current vsprint? was the hangouts from tuesday recorded?

 15:17 <tdaitx> * TCK 8:

 15:17 <tdaitx> - Improved Runtime test results from last week: only 431 failures, no errors (from 3539 failures and 883 errors)

 15:17 <tdaitx> - Fixed classpath for the JCK agent

 15:17 <tdaitx> - Got JCK to run on remote agent (instead of running locally, might be needed for arm64/ppc64el)

 15:17 <tdaitx> - Now iterating to fix the pending failures (sound, rmi, kerberos, etc)

 15:17 <tdaitx> * TCK 7:

 15:17 <tdaitx> - Rerunning with a few TCK 8 fixes

 15:17 <tdaitx> * Checked packages that (build) depend on OpenJDK 7 on Xenial: 4 waiting migration, 1 required merge, 1 unknown

 15:17 <tdaitx> * Pending:

 15:17 <tdaitx> - Complete interactive JCK tests

 15:17 <tdaitx> - Test JCK on i386 after runtime is OK for AMD64

 15:17 <tdaitx> (done)

 15:17 <pitti> tdaitx: http://pad.ubuntu.com/errorttracker-sprint

 15:18 <bdmurray> tdaitx: not recorded

 15:18 <xnox> me?

 15:18 <xnox> Fix fuse failing to upgrade in lxd

 15:18 <xnox> Fixes to s390-tools, libseccomp

 15:18 <xnox> Deployed openstack in juju2/lxd, filed loads of bugs

 15:18 <xnox> Apperantly I used a little of electricity whilst doing above

 15:18 <xnox> Ported spl/zfs to z

 15:18 <xnox> Worked with apw on failing to load in-kernel 509 certs

 15:18 <xnox> Preparing for Beta

 15:18 <xnox> Off next week - skiing on Avoriaz / Portes du Soleil and there is bank holiday, so back on 29th

 15:18 <xnox> done.

 15:19 <xnox> s/on/in/

 15:19 <bdmurray> submitted RT regarding rescuing arm64 core files

 15:19 <bdmurray> submitted RT regarding updating PS4.5 retracers to daisy r693

 15:19 <bdmurray> submitted RT re PS4.5 OOPSes not showing up at oops.canonical.com

 15:19 <bdmurray> submitted LP: #1556248 re DistUpgradeQuirk for fglrx and 16.04

 15:19 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1556248 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Xenial) "dist upgrade quirk needed for fglrx and 16.04" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1556248

 15:19 <bdmurray> testing error tracker setup for the sprint

 15:19 <bdmurray> fixed extract-changelogs project in Launchpad

 15:19 <bdmurray> pushed changelog extractor code to an LP core-dev branch

 15:19 <bdmurray> properly set bzr branch for changelog extractor on bignay

 15:19 <bdmurray> final prep for Error Tracker sprint

 15:19 <bdmurray> Error Tracker sprint!

 15:19 <bdmurray> ✔ done

 15:21 <bdmurray> xnox: your search and replace could apply to done

 15:22 <xnox> bdmurray, =)

 15:22 <slangasek> xnox: "a little electricity"? did IS send you a bill for the DC?

 15:26 <bdmurray> where'd that meeting leader go?

 15:27 <slangasek> ok, any other questions?

 15:27 <slangasek> bdmurray: single threaded blocked waiting to hear about electric bills

 15:27 <xnox> slangasek, i was told i was using 80% of electric for a week or so.

 15:27 <slangasek> blink

 15:28 <xnox> slangasek, openstack crashed, and kept crashing =)

 15:28 <slangasek> well then

 15:28 <xnox> lxd is good to provide load =)

 15:28 <xnox> i surprised it all kept going to be honest.

 15:29 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Schprint

 15:29 <slangasek> we have a core sprint scheduled in June :)

 15:29 <xnox> τρέχω ?

 15:29 <slangasek> you should have all received email telling you to book travel

 15:30 <slangasek> xnox: nice

 15:30 <robru> yay!

 15:30 <cyphermox> xnox: wha? tpexw?

 15:30 <slangasek> so, please book your travel :)

 15:31 <infinity> cyphermox: That's Greek for ":)))))"

 15:31 <infinity> Or =)))))

 15:31 <infinity> Yes, that one.

 15:31 <cyphermox> yeah, that one

 15:31 <pitti> done

 15:31 <xnox> =)))))

 15:31 * infinity is waiting for xnox to go on an IRC diet and drop some of those chins.

 15:31 <slangasek> πηγούνια

 15:32 <slangasek> not to be confused with begonia

 15:32 <slangasek> [TOPIC] AOB

 15:32 <slangasek> anything else today?

 15:33 <slangasek> xnox: at least we didn't decide that holding it in Greece means it needs to be a marathon instead of a sprint

 15:33 <xnox> infinity, actually i have lost 5kg since new years.

 15:33 <bdmurray> slangasek: slashd emailed the SRU team about an openipmi SRU that nobody has comment on. Maybe some SRU team member here could?

 15:33 <xnox> slangasek, awwww

 15:34 <slangasek> bdmurray: it's currently in my backlog, fwiw; I noticed he mentioned it was a private bug, so not a proper SRU bug...

 15:34 <infinity> xnox: Your emoticon hasn't.

 15:34 <bdmurray> slangasek: there is a corresponding public one

 15:34 <slangasek> ah ok

 15:34 <bdmurray> bug 1546735

 15:34 <ubottu> bug 1546735 in openipmi (Ubuntu) "openipmi package compile without SSL" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1546735

 15:35 <slangasek> bdmurray: pretty sure the short answer is going to be "no", anyway

 15:36 <bdmurray> slangasek: okay

 15:36 <infinity> The answer was already no.

 15:37 <infinity> 16 days ago.

 15:37 <slangasek> infinity: oh, did someone already nack this once? ok

 15:37 <infinity> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openipmi/+bug/1546735/comments/4

 15:37 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1546735 in openipmi (Ubuntu) "openipmi package compile without SSL" [Undecided,Fix released]

 15:37 <bdmurray> "is probably unsuitable" doesn't sound like no to me

 15:37 <infinity> well, it also came with him denying the SRU tasks.

 15:37 <slashd> infinity, slangasek, bmurray, after this comment, RAOF suggest to filed the private bug with compelling argument

 15:38 <infinity> Is the compelling argument "someone's paying us"?

 15:38 <slangasek> slashd: well, the arguments need to be made in public

 15:38 <infinity> ie: why is this private?

 15:38 <slangasek> any argument that can't be made in public is not compelling for an SRU, as infinity's question suggests

 15:38 <slashd> it is private, because I wanted to hide the UA customer from the public bug

 15:39 <slashd> UA customer identity

 15:39 <infinity> So, that becomes more interesting, certainly.

 15:39 <slangasek> the SRU team probably doesn't need to know that at all, but the justification for the SRU does need to be public

 15:39 <infinity> But "I pay for a support contract" doesn't get you carte blanche to dictate the distro either.

 15:39 <infinity> If it did, we'd never get anything done.

 15:40 <infinity> So, yeah.  We need reasonable technical arguments and test plans to prove nothing regresses, yada yada.

 15:40 <ogra_> but we would be immensely rich !

 15:40 <slangasek> anyway, seems like something we can follow up on via the bug

 15:40 <slangasek> bug(s)

 15:40 <slangasek> anything else?

 15:40 <xnox> ogra_, i don't think so. mark would be rich, maybe, or like break even.

 15:41 <slashd> infinity, slangasek, bmurray thanks for your feedbacks on this bug

 15:41 <slashd> much appreciated

 15:41 <xnox> huh.

 15:41 <xnox> slangasek, infinity - why would we not backport something from xenial to trusty?

 15:41 <xnox> slashd, there is commercial product listed in the original bug report as it is.

 15:42 <infinity> xnox: Because it's a stable release?

 15:42 <xnox> slashd, upgrade to xenial is the answer? =)

 15:42 <bdmurray> xnox: the debian bug report has a good test case w/o a commercial product iirc

 15:43 <bdmurray> "solterm is basically useless" seemed like something worth fixing to me

 15:44 <infinity> Not disagreeing, but the SRU bug is more than lacking the usual justification and test bits.

 15:46 <slangasek> ok - further discussion to the bug, then?

 15:46 * infinity nods.

 15:46 <slangasek> #endmeeting



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