== Meeting information == * #ubuntu-meeting Meeting, 14 Jan at 16:01 — 16:42 UTC * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-01-14-16.01.log.html]] == Meeting summary == === Lightning round === The discussion about "Lightning round" started at 16:01. * ''LINK:'' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YlE_pLwU_0 === AOB === The discussion about "AOB" started at 16:15. * ''LINK:'' http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20151218.1-xenial-baseline-xenial.html * ''LINK:'' http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20151218.1-xenial-baseline-xenial.html * ''LINK:'' http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20151218.1-pie-z-now-xenial.html == Vote results == == Done items == * (none) == People present (lines said) == * slangasek (61) * caribou (34) * xnox (30) * cyphermox (23) * bdmurray (22) * sil2100 (20) * pitti (18) * ubottu (15) * doko (13) * barry (11) * robru (10) * tdaitx (8) * chiluk (4) * meetingology (4) * jgrimm (1) * Trevinho (1) == Full Log == 16:01 #startmeeting 16:01 Meeting started Thu Jan 14 16:01:42 2016 UTC. The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 16:01 16:01 Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 16:01 [TOPIC] Lightning round 16:01 \o\ \o/ /o/ 16:01 $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko bdmurray slangasek caribou infinity sil2100 robru cyphermox pitti tdaitx xnox chiluk) 16:01 chiluk tdaitx pitti robru infinity bdmurray slangasek barry doko cyphermox sil2100 caribou xnox 16:02 Phew 16:02 * xnox winning 16:02 guess I'm first.. 16:02 * tdaitx 2nd place! 16:02 I still have some time to prepare the report... 16:02 Fixed https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1484696 waiting on upload approval and SRU. 16:02 Fixed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1527062 Verification TBD. 16:02 --done-- 16:02 Launchpad bug 1484696 in apache2 (Ubuntu) "Unable to connect to: ws://:/MAAS/ws" [High,In progress] 16:02 Launchpad bug 1527062 in linux (Ubuntu) "XFS Deadlock on 4.2+" [High,In progress] 16:02 * Sort out freeipmi merge confusion (LP: #1527685) 16:02 * Checking OpenJDK 7 candidate patches to upstream 16:02 * Backport 8u71 security patches to OpenJDK 7 16:02 Next: 16:02 * Backport 8u71 security patches to OpenJDK 6 16:02 * Provide OpenJDK 7 & 6 with 8u71 security patches to the security team 16:02 Launchpad bug 1527685 in freeipmi (Ubuntu) "Please merge freeipmi 1.4.11-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1527685 16:02 (done) 16:02 autopkgtest: 16:02 - lots of manual maintenance mostly due to some LXC problems on armhf, and on a juju bug in prodstack; investigated with #juju and IS; nothing worked, re-deployed entire environment 16:02 - improve heuristics of which souce package version to download; not perfect yet (particularly for the kernel), but better for most cases (LP: #1517426) 16:02 Launchpad bug 1517426 in autopkgtest (Ubuntu) "apt-get source the pinned versions, not the latest available ones" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1517426 16:02 - Adjust deployment script to work with juju-local, as preparation for the upcoming virtual sprint and for easier development 16:02 - Attempt to move armhf testing into Scalingstack; first attempt failed due to LP: #1531768, alternative attempt with direct kernel+initrd boot is blocked on some Scalingstack fixes (wgrant was looking into that) 16:03 Launchpad bug 1531768 in linux (Ubuntu) "arm64 kernel and multiple CPUs is unusably slow" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1531768 16:03 misc: 16:03 - unstick some packages in -proposed, do some library transitions 16:03 - ongoing: PostgreSQL 9.4 → 9.5 transition 16:03 - apport: fix tests with gcc 6 and some flaky test 16:03 - Help didrocks with running ubuntu-make upstream tests on autopkgtest CI; we found various issues both in the u-make tests and in the infra 16:03 - Fix wrong keyboard layout on console (#1531442) 16:03 (END) 16:03 lp:canonical-mojo-specs 16:03 * FINALLY got first successful train deployment in mojo CI in over 2 months 16:03 lp:bileto 16:03 * phase 2 of britney support: gating qa queue on britney approval 16:03 * fixed a huge bug in britney configuration that prevented it from identifying regressions (britney was rubberstamping nearly everything as ALWAYSFAIL until today) 16:03 * split qa signoff field into lander signoff and qa signoff, hopefully fixing much confusion. 16:03 * many minor bug fixes and optimizations. 16:03 (done) 16:04 infinity's not in channel; bdmurray ? 16:04 worked on mojo specification on wendigo / devops environment 16:04 fixed permissions issue with creating daisy and errors tarballs 16:04 investgation into mojo spec failure to install cassandra and tried to work around it 16:04 investigation into derived.archive.c.c access failures from the production retracers 16:04 updated daisy to remove ddebs entry for ubuntu-rtms 16:04 submitted RT to have daisy updated on the retracers 16:04 worked with webops regarding upgrading the Error Tracker and charm errors 16:04 reverted changes to error tracker charms for precise, created trusty branches 16:04 updated ifupdown bug with Stacktrace for seb128 / pitti 16:04 investigation into apport not creating a SAS for an ifupdown crash 16:04 reported apport bug LP: #1533349 and submitted MP 16:04 Launchpad bug 1533349 in Apport "StacktraceAddressSignature is generated using suboptimal function" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1533349 16:04 investigation into release upgrade bug LP: #1497688 16:04 Launchpad bug 1497688 in apt (Ubuntu Trusty) "dmsetup and libdevmapper1.02.1 fail to install, depend on each other" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1497688 16:04 upload trusty fix for apt bug LP: #1497688 / LP: #1347721 16:04 Launchpad bug 1347721 in apt (Ubuntu Trusty) "Saucy -> Trusty upgrade failed: procps fails to configure" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1347721 16:04 uploaded xenial fix for bug LP: #1517625 16:04 Launchpad bug 1517625 in biosdevname (Ubuntu Wily) "Typo in hooks/biosdevname" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1517625 16:04 worked on app-install-data-partner bug LP: #1531194 16:04 Launchpad bug 1531194 in app-install-data-partner (Ubuntu Xenial) "13.04 "raring-partner" channel included in 14.04/15.04/15.10/16.04" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1531194 16:04 fixing ubuntu-release-upgrader test failures 16:04 reuploaded bzr to Trusty SRU queue to get LaunchpadBugsFixed 16:04 reuploaded bzr to the Trusty SRU queue for vincent (ftbfs) 16:04 ✔ done 16:05 * xnox what is mojo? 16:05 xnox: you don't want to know 16:06 bdmurray: FWIW, I briefly looked at that, but I can't make sense of that yet 16:06 pitti: I'd be happy to talk about it. 16:06 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YlE_pLwU_0 16:06 xnox: in-house bespoke wrapper around juju, it's used to deploy all Canonical cloud services 16:06 * merges 16:06 * helped unblock a few packages from -proposed 16:06 * triaging of IBM Power bug escalations 16:06 * finishing up golang merge sponsorship this week (LP: #1524165) 16:07 Launchpad bug 1524165 in golang (Ubuntu) "merge with debian" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1524165 16:07 (done) 16:07 python issue 22995 (regression in pickability tests affecting cython-based packages); testing other issues with python 3.5 16:07 LP: #1526613; LP: #1440504 16:07 Launchpad bug 1526613 in python3.5 (Ubuntu) "ftbfs asyncio test failure with 3.5.1-2, used to pass with 3.5.0-2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1526613 16:07 Launchpad bug 1440504 in libpeas (Ubuntu) "libpeas-1.0-0 depends on both libpython2.7 and libpython3.4" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1440504 16:07 click-toolbelt review and sponsorship for pindonga (ultimately he chose not to upload it) 16:07 pycurl 7.21.5-1 and 7.21.5-1ubuntu1 16:07 python3 blueprint ping :) 16:07 new dput code reviews 16:07 python-virtualenv 13.1.2-1 16:07 returning to dirtbike/rewheeling work 16:07 --done-- 16:08 - gcc6 test rebuild finished, evaluated, and filed issues for all ICEs 16:08 - gcc-5 test build from the ibm branch 16:08 - python update for 22925 16:08 - around 20 merges in main 16:08 (done) 16:08 - back from vacation, catching up 16:08 - added MokSBStateRT variable in upstream shim 16:08 - dkms update for Secure Boot support. 16:08 - completed some outstanding multipath SRUs (herding testers) 16:08 - powerpc-ibm-utils SRU 16:08 - isc-dhcp merge for 4.3.3, with fix for bug LP: #1186662 16:08 Launchpad bug 1186662 in isc-dhcp (Ubuntu) "isc-dhcp-server fails to renew lease file" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1186662 16:08 (fyi, isc-dhcp is in NEW) 16:08 - got pulled into a meeting about networking / wifi on phone 16:08 - lsvpd, ppc64-diag package updates 16:08 - more multipath-tools SRUs/bug fixes to be done this week 16:09 (done) 16:09 - Landing team work, silo coordination, preparing landing e-mails 16:09 - RTM Status meetings 16:09 - system-image: 16:09 * Work on the testability branch 16:09 - Image manipulation and copies for ubuntu-core 16:09 - Landing Team tools: 16:09 * Add the map-image script to the tools, displaying rootfs->number mappings for images 16:09 * Modify commitlog generation scripts to create symlinks for other touch channels 16:09 - +1-maintenance: 16:09 * Merged ppp, network-manager-pptp and fso-gsmd 16:09 * Briefly looked into the reason why ppp is blocked (ppp-modules for s390x) 16:09 - Manual imports of custom tarballs for the tarball teams 16:09 - Writing up a script for analysing the delta between vivid-overlay and xenial 16:09 * Started interpreting the results 16:09 - Sync up on current touch device situation and get info for the future 16:09 - Packaging reviews for dual-landing merges 16:10 (done) 16:11 caribou: you're next (if you're around) 16:11 sil2100: I'm hre 16:11 here 16:11 Bugfix : 16:11 - rsyslog fails to start under upstart : More investigation 16:11 - DMB preparation 16:11 - LP1532146 - initramfs-tools nvme support 16:11 - LP1528101 - vm.min_free_kbytes crash issues 16:11 - LP1534106 - rsyslog segfault with juju 16:11 - Nut merge : waiting for sponsor 16:11 Project: 16:11 - Research on clvm/dlm supportability 16:12 * xnox grins 16:12 ☑ Done 16:12 xnox: I thought you would ;) 16:12 fixed qemu 16:12 fixed cloud-images, tested them on two operating systems 16:12 fixed strace 16:12 fixed procps 16:12 requested fixes for kernel, some are done 16:12 fixed kdevplatform, libmpd, packagekit-qt (bootstrap) 16:12 lsb is now in-sync (debian pro-actively took our remaining delta) 16:12 doing test-rebuilds with golang-go 1.6 beta2 16:12 discussed sever/d-i image automated qa, didn't do actions from that yet 16:12 end of life for David Bowie & Alan Rickman 16:13 .. 16:13 mmm nut merge 16:13 it's like faux nutmeg 16:13 :) 16:14 oh, chicken milk, yes :) 16:14 xnox: you worked on their EOL? 16:14 would be nice to touch base about clvm/dlm 16:14 @AOB 16:14 caribou: Error: "AOB" is not a valid command. 16:14 slangasek, i cannot confirm or deny 16:14 any questions RE: status? 16:15 have a look at the ftbfs for the test rebuild ... 16:15 [TOPIC] AOB 16:16 caribou: clvm/dlm? 16:16 well, yes : while clvm is in main, the dlm/libdlm packages are in Universe 16:16 and clvm relies on them 16:16 (aside from the dlm package being broken) 16:17 do we have an official statement or plan of action on supporting a clustering architecture ? 16:17 caribou: are you asking about for 14.04 or 16.04? 16:17 I think this is ancient, from fabionnes' time 16:17 slangasek: I would say both 16:17 caribou, i see dlm in debian new, i wonder if that's better than our version of dlm. 16:17 14.04, from what I can see, is an oversight; nobody reviewed the seeds to make sure that the things in there were things we wanted to support 16:17 14.04 is broken and if we plan to support it, we should fix it in 16.04 16:17 regarding bug 1531194 - Its seems like an obvious fix do I need a test case for it? 16:17 bug 1531194 in app-install-data-partner (Ubuntu Xenial) "13.04 "raring-partner" channel included in 14.04/15.04/15.10/16.04" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1531194 16:17 I thought our clusters are being called "clouds" 16:18 caribou: for 16.04, I think this needs to get out of the seeds 16:18 however, it's a server team call 16:18 at the time i touched it i remember cluster-agents got deprecated, and like i promoted clvm cause it seemed like the right thing to do. 16:18 it's in the server seed 16:18 I will talk to the server team about it 16:18 but do we want to have a supported clustering architecture ? 16:19 clustering as in shared storage access in that case 16:19 that's also a server team decision 16:19 slangasek: ok, will talk to them 16:19 if the server team tells us the answer is "yes" and that they need our support for it, we will help 16:19 but we went two years before anyone even noticed clvm was in main and didn't work 16:19 slangasek: true 16:20 slangasek, i wonder if that coincides with working 12.04 and people starting 16.04 migration prep. 16:20 (ie. skip every other LTS, because it over laps) 16:21 I have another "support" question : do we do any kind of test of Unity on the ppc64el architecture ? 16:21 xnox: the question was raised because of a customer trying to deploy it on 14.04; so no 16:21 caribou: absolutely not 16:21 caribou, no desktops are support on ppc64el and ubuntu-desktop isn't/shouldn't be part of ppc64el. 16:21 we support ppc64el for servers only 16:21 slangasek, i think i should drop ubuntu-desktop on unsupported arches. 16:21 ok, that's what I needed to know 16:21 as far as i know it's only really supported on amd64 16:21 caribou: for packages that are built on ppc64el, they get autopkgtests 16:22 slangasek: thanks! 16:22 xnox: propose to desktop team? :) 16:22 slangasek, sure. 16:22 unity doesn't have any autopkgtests, just unity8 (and that's alwaysfailed across the board) 16:23 Laney, is it ok to make ubuntu-desktop like Architecutre: i386 amd64 ? or maybe armhf too, as i'm sure unity7 is not supported on anything but x86 16:23 we've seen people try to start Unity on ppc64el with vesa but it fails badly 16:23 doko: you wanted to talk about test build failures? 16:23 unity7 used to work in armhf... Not tried for long time, though 16:24 slangasek, no talk, just mention the regressions 16:24 Laney, cause we got a unity7/ppc64el support request, and we're like "no, no no no no" https://youtu.be/31g0YE61PLQ 16:24 re: unity7: might some people want powerpc? 16:25 caribou: IBM has certainly asked about running a desktop; but that's out of scope for our engagement on ppc64el 16:25 xnox: I wouldn't say "support request" but rather "support questino" 16:25 doko: maybe repaste the link here? 16:25 Trevinho, i'm pretty sure this one time X got updated, and we didn't get new armhf blobs for egl (somewhere) thus unity7 stopped working. 16:25 toshiba AC100 ?! 16:25 ogra_, would remember 16:25 http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20151218.1-xenial-baseline-xenial.html 16:25 [LINK] http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20151218.1-xenial-baseline-xenial.html 16:25 doko: thanks :) 16:26 only 35 build failures in main? clearly we aren't breaking the release hard enough 16:27 a lot of familiar names on that list (shim, yaboot). shim will get updated this cycle (cyphermox) so that'll take care of thato ne 16:27 [LINK] http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20151218.1-pie-z-now-xenial.html 16:27 yup 16:27 pie will do that for u s... 16:28 doko: right, do you have the PIE build test link? 16:28 I already had to rebuild shim here to test stuff, and hit the bug, and fixed it with the fix we already have committed 16:28 slangasek, well, things did get fixed since the rebuild =) 16:28 xnox: which the rebuild status pages track, if so 16:29 and 980 packages ftbfs with GCC 6 16:30 7 extra build failures in main w/ PIE 16:30 manageable! 16:30 btw 16:30 I had an email conversation with the server team about trying to get caught up on merges before the LTS 16:30 they're pushing hard to get there 16:31 but they're short on uploaders 16:31 so upload sponsorship is going to be key for helping them get through this backlog 16:31 I thought I already offered stgraber my services 16:31 if you have cycles to spare, please send them there 16:31 (so he could tell them) 16:32 cyphermox: not sure if the message got passed, maybe you want to flag rbasak or jgrimm :) but let's see if we figure out a more systematic way to organize upload sponsorships 16:32 yup 16:32 sponsoring overview? ;) 16:33 doko: fewer build failures in universe when turning -pie on? hmmm 16:33 is the PIE rebuild complete? 16:33 thanks slangasek! indeed help with sponsorships and mentoring in general would be greatly appreciated. 16:34 slangasek: jgrimm: isn't that was +1 maintenance was suppose to achieve ? 16:35 maybe 16:35 caribou: sponsoring things in a timely manner is always an issue though, not limited to +1 16:35 caribou: +1 maintenance is really the structure of rotating individuals in to work on archive tasks... merges are a minor part of that 16:35 people send patches all the time 16:36 slangasek: ah, ok, I understood otherwise 16:36 ok 16:36 +1 maint is probably also sending people down the deep end if they're just starting to upload 16:37 other business, Monday is a bank holiday here in the US 16:37 so some of us are off 16:37 * barry will probably swapday it 16:37 (either Monday, or a nearby swap day) 16:37 slangasek, I hope so ... 16:38 slangasek, it's only three archs 16:38 doko: ahh true 16:38 looking at the per-arch failures, amd64 increases from 760 to 964 - so indeed, there are more failures there 16:38 I'll be out tomorrow instead fwiw 16:39 ok, anything else today? 16:40 slangasek: vsprint? 16:40 pitti: will follow up by email on that with details 16:40 (today) 16:40 slangasek: ah, ok 16:42 sounds like that's it, then 16:42 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)