== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-meeting Meeting, 27 Aug at 15:01 — 15:29 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-08-27-15.01.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

=== Lightning round ===
The discussion about "Lightning round" started at 15:01.


=== AOB ===
The discussion about "AOB" started at 15:19.




== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * pitti (30)
 * bdmurray (24)
 * slangasek (21)
 * robru (18)
 * cyphermox (17)
 * tdaitx (17)
 * sil2100 (15)
 * ubottu (14)
 * caribou (9)
 * doko (6)
 * barry (5)
 * meetingology (3)



== Full Log ==


 15:01 <slangasek> #startmeeting

 15:01 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Aug 27 15:01:41 2015 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 15:01 <meetingology> 

 15:01 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 15:01 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Lightning round

 15:01 <caribou> ~o~

 15:02 <slangasek> $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko bdmurray slangasek caribou infinity sil2100 robru cyphermox pitti tdaitx)

 15:02 <slangasek> cyphermox doko barry sil2100 slangasek caribou robru tdaitx bdmurray pitti infinity

 15:02 <cyphermox> woo!

 15:02 <cyphermox> - last week: DebConf

 15:02 <cyphermox> - Monday: DebFlu was the worst; getting better

 15:02 <cyphermox> - debugging NetworkManager autopkgtests / building (unit tests) on arm64

 15:02 <cyphermox> - prepare and upload skiboot/opal-prd 5.1.1

 15:02 <cyphermox> - some sponsoring for MATE packages

 15:02 <cyphermox> - helping identify an issue in dpkg-genchanges' date parsing

 15:02 <cyphermox> - looking into ubi-timezone bug 1462688.

 15:02 <cyphermox> - more multipath-related SRU work

 15:02 <ubottu> bug 1462688 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubi-timezone failed exit code 1 error when installing UbuntuStudio Wily-15.10 32bit version" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1462688

 15:02 <cyphermox> (done)

 15:03 <doko> - DebConf last week

 15:03 <doko> - python-support removal uploads

 15:03 <doko> - some GCC work

 15:03 <doko> - starting to merge things

 15:03 <doko> - get tdaitx access for openjdk / TCK

 15:03 <doko> (done)

 15:03 <barry> py35 transition: aptdaemon, software-properties, ubuntu-drivers-common (i could not fix, so bug reported), LP: #1488175, enum34 (python3-enum34 removed and deps fixing), flufl.bounce, mako, pyflakes

 15:03 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1488175 in Autopilot "FTBFS on WIly" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1488175

 15:03 <barry> continue to look at weird python3-funcsigs build-dep from mako (via mock), only on ubuntu.  signs point to outdated dh-python, testing unstable merge now

 15:03 <barry> restarting django 1.8 transition this week

 15:04 <barry> --done--

 15:04 <sil2100> Argh, me already

 15:04 <sil2100> Ok, this will be a quick one:

 15:04 <sil2100> - Landing team work, silo coordination, preparing landing e-mails

 15:04 <sil2100> - OTA-6:

 15:04 <sil2100> * Preparing language packs through langpack-o-matic

 15:04 <sil2100> * Release notes, image copies, phasing, late re-spins of images, package copies

 15:04 <sil2100> * Release release release

 15:04 <sil2100> - Modify phasing script to work with multiple channels

 15:04 <sil2100> - Review and sync mate-tweak and caja-extensions per ubuntu-mate dev request

 15:04 <sil2100> - appmenu-qt5:

 15:04 <sil2100> * Investigating possible solutions to the shortcuts bug for OTA-7

 15:04 <sil2100> - RTM Status meetings

 15:04 <sil2100> - Various seed changes

 15:04 <sil2100> - Ubuntu-PD related work

 15:04 <sil2100> (done)

 15:05 <slangasek> * short week: DebConf, then Plumbers, then DebFlu

 15:05 <slangasek> * discussions at Plumbers around UEFI support, and changes that would allow us to enforce kernel signing by default

 15:05 <slangasek> * discussions around the new Ubuntu zSeries support that was announced at LinuxCon

 15:05 <slangasek> (done)

 15:05 <caribou> Bugfix :  - makedumpfile kernel support on trusty - calibre broken bulk edit SRU (LP: #1282898) - lsb upstart blocked SRU (LP: #1273462)

 15:05 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1282898 in calibre (Ubuntu Trusty) "Broken Edit Metadata in Bulk commits 1.25.0" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1282898

 15:05 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1273462 in lsb (Ubuntu Trusty) "Users can mistakenly run init.d scripts and cause problems if an equivalent upstart job already exists" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1273462

 15:05 <caribou> merges :

 15:06 <caribou> - FFE for rsyslog merge since did not get sponsored

 15:06 <caribou> * Thanks to pitti for help.

 15:06 <caribou> Sosreport upstream

 15:06 <caribou> - Packaging

 15:06 <pitti> caribou: (will sponsor ASAP after your fixes from a hour ago)

 15:06 <caribou> ☑

 15:06 <caribou> done

 15:06 <robru> lp:cupstream2distro

 15:06 <robru> - achieved 100% test coverage

 15:06 <robru> - dramatically simplified prepare-silo form

 15:06 <robru> - new staleness report job for identifying silos for freeing during crunches

 15:06 <robru> - module reorg splitting up massive build.py into smaller submodules

 15:06 <robru> - regenerate diffs at start of publication, fixes bug with certain manual packages not having diffs generated

 15:06 <robru> - drop a pile of python bilingualisms, cementing python3 as the only supported language

 15:06 <robru> - ensure train will never generate changelogs with empty bullet points ever again

 15:06 <robru> lp:bileto

 15:06 <robru> - overhaul URL handling, making for nicer-looking URLs

 15:06 <robru> - redirect back to correct URL after SSO signin

 15:06 <robru> - expand requests page with links to jenkins build/publish/clean jobs, deprecating dashboard page

 15:06 <robru> - added a number of new API endpoints for searching through different types of requests that require action

 15:06 <robru> +1 maintenance:

 15:06 <robru> - submitted a few patches for packages failing with BOOST_JOIN, even got a couple accepted in debian

 15:06 <robru> - a few other small patches here and there, still lots to learn

 15:06 <robru> ✓ finito

 15:07 <tdaitx> - Learn the hard way how to backport stuff from OpenJDK 8 to 7 and 6, specially when ancestors have been selectively and partially backported

 15:07 <tdaitx> - Tried to use mercurial as a git user, not working; read on, got it somewhat right; felt like losing superpowers

 15:07 <tdaitx> - Tried to backport TLS 1.2 from JDK7 into 6, failed; a dev said he don't see a point; on hold for now

 15:07 <tdaitx> - Enabled TLS 1.2 by default for OpenJDK 7 and TLS 1.1 for OpenJDK 6; previously both used TLS 1.0 as default; LP: #1482924

 15:07 <tdaitx> - Learned more on the innards of OpenJDK packaging; also read security docs on it

 15:07 <tdaitx> - Built new packages for OpenJDK 7 and 6 with the TLS backports

 15:07 <tdaitx> Next steps

 15:07 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1482924 in openjdk-7 (Ubuntu) "Regressions due to USN-2696-1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1482924

 15:07 <tdaitx> - Get started with TCK (thanks doko for access!)

 15:07 <tdaitx> - Triage/fix OpenJDK bugs

 15:07 <tdaitx> - Fix FTBFS for fun and learning

 15:07 <tdaitx> - Update OpenJDK 7 to 2.6.1 for fun and learning

 15:07 <tdaitx> Waiting/On hold

 15:07 <tdaitx> - Figure out whether we have Oracle Contribution Agreement (OCA) or not; Dalibor from Oracle says we don't, doko says we should; need to get it if we don't have it

 15:07 <tdaitx> - Submit TLS backports upstream for review as soon as OCA is cleared

 15:07 <tdaitx> Updates

 15:07 <tdaitx> - ISP is in a sorry state, trying its hardest to keep me offline (and mad) since yesterday; maintenance is scheduled for the afternoon

 15:07 <tdaitx> (done)

 15:07 <bdmurray> created a set of core files for which the ExecutablePath could not be found to delete from swift

 15:07 <bdmurray> submitted RT regarding removing core files (old ones too) from swift

 15:07 <bdmurray> submitted RT to have new dse node added to cassandra_hosts for the error tracker

 15:07 <bdmurray> setup a device blacklist in daisy so we stop accepting crash files from some systems

 15:07 <bdmurray> test and fix an issue with how daisy handles apport not being able to 'find package which ships ExecutablePath'

 15:08 <bdmurray> SRU verification (T, V) of apport bug LP: #1470572

 15:08 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1470572 in apport (Ubuntu Vivid) "native-origins.d information causes apport to strip origin information from Package" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1470572

 15:08 <bdmurray> reported apport bug LP: #1485773 re new_only

 15:08 <bdmurray> reported apport bug LP: #1487174 regarding sandbox building

 15:08 <bdmurray> replied to comments in apt lists bug LP: #1471903

 15:08 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1485773 in apport (Ubuntu) "new_only option when writing reports stops some data from being written" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1485773

 15:08 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1487174 in apport (Ubuntu) "apport-retrace's build sandbox routine carries on if it can't find the package for an ExecutablePath" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1487174

 15:08 <bdmurray> uploaded W and T, V SRU for apport bug LP: #1485787

 15:08 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1471903 in live-build (Ubuntu) "-updates, -security missing from apt lists" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1471903

 15:08 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1485787 in apport (Ubuntu Vivid) "package_hook does not include package version" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1485787

 15:08 <bdmurray> review/cleanup of bad bug modifier work

 15:08 <bdmurray> resolved pep8 / test failures errors with ubuntu-release-upgrader

 15:08 <bdmurray> ubuntu-release-uprader bug triage

 15:08 <bdmurray> tested upgrading from Trusty to Utopic (doesn't prompt if lts is set and does warn about EoL release)

 15:08 <bdmurray> updated EoL release announcement on changelogs.ubuntu.com (typos)

 15:08 <bdmurray> sponsored T patch for LP: #1358154

 15:08 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1358154 in bash-completion (Debian) "Bash autocompletion not working for apt command" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1358154

 15:08 <bdmurray> ✔ done

 15:08 <pitti> autopkgtest:

 15:08 <pitti> - find out why ppc64el test nodes keep getting killed, fix that, and enable the arch for autopkgtesting

 15:08 <pitti> - enable armhf for autopkgtesting too

 15:08 <pitti> - enable autopkgtesting for precise: done for i386/amd64, in progress for arm/ppc

 15:08 <pitti> britney:

 15:08 <pitti> - britney: add linux→ DKMS triggering, to replace the old custom Jenkins jobs; also needs some dkms backporting for autopkgtest helper script (#1489045)

 15:08 <pitti> - britney: add machine readable autopkgtest results to YAML output for kernel team consuption

 15:08 <pitti> - britney: merge with Debian, port to Python 3

 15:08 <pitti> - debci: Fix missing results due to swift list batching

 15:08 <pitti> systemd: some bug fixes, merge with debian

 15:08 <pitti> misc:

 15:08 <pitti> - debconf last week

 15:09 <pitti> - some remaining pieces of g++-5 transitions

 15:09 <pitti> - apport: fix broken StacktraceSource attachments (#1462491)

 15:09 <pitti> - langpack-o-matic: Re-fix daily PPA uploads

 15:09 <pitti> EOT

 15:09 <barry> robru: \o/

 15:09 <pitti> I suppose/hope infinity is asleep

 15:10 <robru> barry: :-D

 15:10 <slangasek> bdmurray: device blacklist?  there are rogue devices submitting broken crashes?

 15:11 <slangasek> pitti: what's our baseline for precise autopkgtests?  I don't remember this ever having been something we discussed doing, and I would assume the rate of false-positives would be unreasonably high

 15:11 <pitti> slangasek: almost no precise packages actually have a test

 15:12 <bdmurray> slangasek: yes, we occassionally see systems trying to report crashes that cause an OOPS when writing to the database and whoopsie tries to resubmit them every 2 hours

 15:12 <pitti> slangasek: this is mostly for kernel triggering DKMS, and some backported ones

 15:12 <slangasek> pitti: ah, ok

 15:12 <bdmurray> I haven't found the root cause and its just a couple of systems in the list so far

 15:12 <slangasek> bdmurray: wow, alright

 15:12 <pitti> slangasek: but indeed I expect a fair bit of "always failed" there; but we are looking for "regression", which will still be very useful

 15:14 <slangasek> right, I guess the situation would be /better/ than trusty since we don't have the situation of a pre-release baseline + 6 months of SRUs causing bitrot

 15:14 <pitti> slangasek: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/precise/update_excuses.html FTR

 15:14 <slangasek> any other questions on status? (and yes I assume infinity is off resting)

 15:14 <pitti> (still fairly new, thus lots of queued items still)

 15:14 <pitti> and DKMS package testing itself is fairly heuristic; we can/should iterate on that to refine it

 15:14 <slangasek> "lots of queued items" + "almost no packages have tests" == "hrm" :)

 15:16 <pitti> slangasek: we do have a fair bit of DKMS packages, and apparently firefox/thunderbird backports which declare Testsuite:

 15:16 <slangasek> ok

 15:16 <pitti> let's see how it works out

 15:17 <pitti> but CI and kernel teams want to move to this unified "let britney handle it" workflow instead of the custom jobs

 15:18 * slangasek nods

 15:19 <slangasek> [TOPIC] AOB

 15:19 <slangasek> Anything else today?

 15:19 <cyphermox> ah, yes

 15:19 <cyphermox> yesterday it was brought up that upgrading from vivid failed, with some modemmanager errors

 15:20 <bdmurray> pitti: Could you have a look at bug 1489410? I'm okay with working on it but don't know where to head.

 15:20 <ubottu> bug 1489410 in Canonical System Image "do not require apt lists to be pre-installed" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1489410

 15:20 <cyphermox> looks like it's more than just MM, it affects bluetooth too, etc. --> looks like an issue with dbus and/or systemd when upgrading

 15:20 <cyphermox> I was looking for a bug for it, will open one

 15:21 <bdmurray> cyphermox: bug 1481798?

 15:21 <ubottu> bug 1481798 in modemmanager (Ubuntu) "package:modemmanager:1.4.10-1:subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 100" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1481798

 15:21 <pitti> bdmurray: will do; that's for testing the origin: only, right? as file -> package mapping should only require the dpkg db, nto apt

 15:21 <cyphermox> bdmurray: yup

 15:21 <bdmurray> pitti: right, ubuntu-bug wasn't working on the phone for packages from -updates because the lists for -updates weren't there.

 15:22 <cyphermox> bdmurray: I meant "if there was a bug with more info", but this works.

 15:23 <pitti> bdmurray: hmm, this is a rather poor bug report -- there is no description of an actual bug

 15:23 * pitti asks there

 15:23 <bdmurray> pitti: bug 1471903 has some more details

 15:23 <ubottu> bug 1471903 in live-build (Ubuntu) "-updates, -security missing from apt lists" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1471903

 15:24 <bdmurray> cyphermox: the duplicates should have more information

 15:25 <cyphermox> bdmurray: yes, they do

 15:27 <slangasek> alrighty, anything else?

 15:29 <slangasek> #endmeeting



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