17:31 #startmeeting 17:31 Meeting started Thu Apr 2 17:31:57 2015 UTC. The chair is czajkowski. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 17:31 17:31 Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 17:32 o/ 17:32 hey hey 17:32 Aloha and thank you taking the time to join this meeting 17:32 o/ 17:32 #chair mhall119 elfy 17:32 Current chairs: czajkowski elfy mhall119 17:32 #topic lubuntu catch up 17:32 so who is here from the Lubuntu team ? 17:33 o/ 17:33 o/ 17:33 so how is Lubunu 15.04 coming along? 17:33 hi people 17:33 Hello everyone o/ 17:34 it is coming along 17:34 current development is focused on moving to qt 17:34 and that's slated for 15.10, maybe 16.04 17:34 so 15.04 isn't going to have any super cutting edge features 17:34 that's right, LXDE is moving to qt, is it Qt4 or Qt5? 17:35 Qt5 17:35 Qt4 isn't suppored in the qt version 17:35 yeah upstream, lxde is pretty much dead in the water 17:35 so we are already coordinating Qt released into the archives between the Unity8/SDK developers and the Kubuntu developers, it would probably be good for you guys to be in that loop too as new releases are going to start affecting you too 17:36 is there some particular forum/list we should be on for that particular purpose? 17:36 wxl: I don't personally know, you might email ubuntu-devel and ask 17:37 that does make sense 17:37 ok i'll look into that 17:38 btw i'm just following your lead here, guys. if you want me to ramble about everything in the lubuntu world, i can. XD 17:38 wxl: anything that you think the CC should know, or questions you have for us, or assistance you need from us 17:38 PPC - how's that likely to carry on into the foreseeable future - I know it causes you pain come milestones ... 17:39 wxl: but you don't have to give us a progress report or anything like that :) 17:39 mhall119: i'll get to generalities after we've exhausted other questions 17:39 elfy: well, we're lts only on ppc, so it's been mostly ok 17:39 elfy: plus i think we've got a more dedicated team of ppc folks, so that helps too 17:39 wxl: so the current vivid image trackers not a worry then 17:40 elfy: totally 17:40 elfy: in fact, it's great that the testers we have are checking a release that they know won't be released for them :) 17:40 so not a worry till 2016 :) 17:40 yeppers 17:40 any other specifics? 17:40 not from me 17:41 ok so then a wee update 17:41 I kind of know where you are vivid wise :) 17:41 1s phone just rang :/ 17:42 :) 17:45 ok 17:45 back 17:45 so 17:45 here's the big update 17:45 wxl: how is the Lubuntu developer community, is it growing, shrinking, or holding steady? 17:45 gsilva recently became our new head of wiki/docs and he's got a real mind to make some major improvements. super excited about that. 17:46 I have seen more people upstream growing in lxqt like every few weeks a new person joins upstream 17:46 that's good 17:46 wxl: ^^ 17:47 mhall119: i would say growing. i've even been trying to dip my toes in the water personally, but with all the different repos/bug trackers upstream it's kind of unclear what the process is like. i hope to get some clarity on that soon and make some documentation for people coming from ubuntu. 17:47 I have some ideas but I don't have enough time nor people enough to deliver them 17:47 how is the relationship between Lubuntu and upstream lxqt? Is there regular communication and cooperation? 17:47 mhall119: absolutely. our main developer, gilir, is the real bridge there. 17:47 I also have reported a few bugs in upstream and got them fixed for lxqt 17:47 ditto 17:48 ianorlin's been a huge help as of late, helping with triage, development, testing (as always), and even covering for me as release manager for the last beta when i was on vacation 17:48 supposedly he's going to get his ubuntu membership sometime soon *AHEM* ;) 17:48 yep I noticed that :) 17:49 oh - and I noticed the membership wiki update with that on too - good luck :) 17:49 silverlion, our comms guy, had to step away from his responsibilities, and we have a new guy (who used to be team leader) 17:50 all change then ;) 17:50 yeah a lot of change 17:50 the good news is that now that silverlion isn't committed to doing press releases and stuff, he's getting things set up to do more screencasts 17:51 so it won't be something that we expect on some sort of scheduled basis, but it will be icing on the cake 17:51 as for my realm (qa/bugs), i'm still working on finally getting a little contest set up to encourage more contribution 17:51 i have the rewards, but need to make the write up 17:52 wxl: good luck with that :) 17:52 yeah, i've been pondering how to fairly gamify it 17:52 …in such a way that encourages new participation 17:52 i'm thinking about giving more weight to new or less frequent contributors 17:52 something I ponder too 17:52 unfortunately the more i think about it, the more complex it gets :) 17:53 yep 17:53 and then i start thinking about how much time i need to spend collecting and analyzing all the data, but oh well 17:53 maybe if i come up with something really good and spend the time making software to support it, then it's something that the rest of the community can use 17:54 ianorlin: since i was on vacation and still haven't totally caught up, can you give us some sense of what the next milestone will look like? do we have some annoying bugs to squash still? 17:55 while he ponders that, i have one more issue, i guess 17:55 yeah the lubuntu-software center not installing package out of the box unless you add the gnome-polickykit agent to startup and groups as gui stuff that needs superuser is proabably most important lxde fix 17:55 and the one of the volume control settings not opening a mixer is pretty annoying as well 17:56 so - is there anything that the CC can help with? 17:56 and there might be one xorg problem effecting i686 that is important as well and the eject media and restart needs fixing for some other flavors as well as us 17:56 i'm not sure the cc can do much about this 17:56 hold on a second and i'll dig up the archives of the discussion 17:57 but tl;dr i'm trying to figure out what to do about our alternate installer 17:57 ianorlin: pretty sure that eject issue is global, I spoke to cyphermox earlier about that 17:58 i guess the lsc issue is the biggest 17:58 will have to investigate that more 17:58 here's the blueprint about how to compress our releases https://blueprints.launchpad.net/lubuntu-brainstorming/+spec/one-iso-to-rule-them-all 17:58 i'd like to get rid of alternate, but a lightweight installer is sort of a necessary thing for a lightweight distribution 17:59 the problem is we sometimes run into these d-i bugs that no one else has 17:59 so it's hard to get adequate support from them 17:59 i'd like to have some more standardization 17:59 even reporting them can be a challenge 17:59 i emailed the server team about potentially making a text-only front end to ubiquity but heard nothing 17:59 indeed 18:00 so this does not require discussion now, but i just want to bring this up if the cc can think of any possible solutions or coordinate with other members of the community to come up with good solutions 18:00 and that's all igot 18:00 * ianorlin doesn't have anything anymore either 18:00 ianorlin: elfy: yes, the eject issue (plymouth not getting input) is global, it affects all flavors. 18:01 cyphermox: ianorlin: elfy: those are the kind of bugs we like XD 18:01 :) 18:01 mhall119: so perhaps we could help get them in touch with the right people at least? 18:01 that being said, czajkowski elfy mhall119, if you don't need anything else, i've got a busy day ahead of me 18:01 it looks to me like it's due to the display-manager not stopping early enough before plymouth starts, so plymouth gets confused 18:02 wxl: you go ahead if you need to, I know where to find you :) 18:02 indeed i am around :) 18:03 ok since i'm not hearing anything else, i'm going to disappear for a bit then :) 18:03 okey doke 18:03 thank you all for all you do! 18:03 ianorlin: anything else from you? 18:04 cyphermox: ty for that by the way :) 18:05 ok - I'll call that cooked then - thanks all :) 18:05 #endmeeting