17:02 <dholbach> #startmeeting
17:02 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Mar  5 17:02:11 2015 UTC.  The chair is dholbach. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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17:02 <dholbach> #chair czajkowski elfy
17:02 <meetingology> Current chairs: czajkowski dholbach elfy
17:02 <dholbach> how are we all doing?
17:02 <dholbach> looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda it looks like we're meeting up with the IRC Council today
17:02 <mhall119> hello everyone
17:02 <dholbach> #chair mhall119
17:02 <meetingology> Current chairs: czajkowski dholbach elfy mhall119
17:02 <dholbach> do we have anyone from the IRC Council here?
17:03 * mhall119 doesn't see IRC council on that wiki page
17:04 <dholbach> mhall119, 5th March
17:04 <mhall119> ah, nvm me, there it is
17:04 <dholbach> :)
17:04 <mhall119> just not in the table
17:04 <dholbach> yeah, it wasn't updated
17:04 <elfy> no-one reminded them - I pinged irc-ops this morning and mailed them later
17:05 <dholbach> Pici, Tm_T, elky, hggdh: anyone of you there?
17:05 <dholbach> flanell doesn't seem to be in #u-meeting
17:06 <dholbach> if not, we might have to reschedule
17:06 <elfy> Tm_T wasn't sure if he could make it with travelling
17:06 <mhall119> did we have anyone else on the schedule for today?
17:06 <elfy> mhall119: nope that's it
17:07 <dholbach> ok.. I can take an action to mail the IRC Council to reschedule
17:07 <dholbach> and we can open the floor to other business?
17:08 <elfy> yep - works for me
17:08 <dholbach> cool
17:08 <dholbach> #topic Any other business
17:09 <dholbach> there's the membership nomination period going on right now - do we need to start another call for nominees or something?
17:10 <elfy> got done 2 weeks ago - might be useful to catch membership board to see if they've had any response
17:11 <dholbach> ok
17:12 <czajkowski> cool
17:12 <dholbach> DMB got done
17:12 <dholbach> are there other boards/councils restaffing now or soon?
17:12 <elfy> loco is in hand
17:13 <elfy> then all clear till the wibbly wobbly whinocewos cycle
17:13 <dholbach> ok, in terms of the loco council, do we need to do anything?
17:14 * dholbach just mailed the Membership boards as well
17:15 <elfy> dholbach: don't think so
17:15 <dholbach> ok cool
17:15 <dholbach> I know I still have to participate in the CC interviews :)
17:15 * mhall119 casts his vote for wibbly wobbly whinocewos
17:16 <elfy> bad bad dholbach :p
17:16 <dholbach> are there any other work items we need to look at now?
17:16 <Pici> I'm sort of here, but doing work stuff as well... I'd prefer that we reschedule so that some others can attend to.
17:16 <Pici> too
17:16 <mhall119> UOS is coming up, we should think about what we want to do in terms of sessions and getting others in the community to participate and propose sessions
17:17 * cprofitt waves
17:17 <elfy> Pici: ok :)
17:17 <mhall119> hi Pici
17:17 <Pici> hi!
17:17 <elfy> hi cprofitt :)
17:17 <cprofitt> hello elfy
17:17 <dholbach> mhall119, nice one!
17:17 <dholbach> Pici, makes sense
17:17 <dholbach> and hi!
17:18 <dholbach> mhall119, how do we best organise this? just do a call for sessions, maybe on the community list?
17:19 <mhall119> dholbach: that, but maybe we should also contact each of the different councils directly and encourage them to have their own plans for recruiting and running sessions
17:19 <cprofitt> dholbach: community list, fridge and planet?
17:19 <cprofitt> +1 mhall119
17:20 <dholbach> yes, makes sense
17:20 <mhall119> dholbach: please do me a favor and include an appeal for track lead volunteers in whatever is sent out
17:20 <mhall119> people interested in being a track lead can contact me directly
17:21 <elfy> perhaps we should think about those teams that have told us "getting people involved is an issue"
17:21 <elfy> then see if we can get someone from those to run a session
17:21 <elfy> or rather point them in the right direction
17:21 <cprofitt> I like that idea a lot elfy
17:21 <mhall119> yeah, we might need to be pro-active and help them make that happen
17:22 <cprofitt> perhaps having them hold a session about their team would help
17:22 <dholbach> mhall119, I didn't agree to send something out yet :-P
17:22 <mhall119> ok, so we need a doc where we can start putting this list together
17:22 <cprofitt> we can offer some advice and assistance in making the session happen as well
17:22 <mhall119> dholbach: I'm pretty sure you did :-P
17:22 <dholbach> your jedi mind tricks don't work today :-P
17:22 <elfy> mhall119: a pad would do
17:23 <dholbach> I like the idea of the pad
17:23 <cprofitt> dholbach says, this is not the community team member you are looking for. mhall119 looks the other way.
17:24 <mhall119> elfy: and all: http://pad.ubuntu.com/PkXURXDKrM
17:24 <mhall119> cprofitt: his german mind-tricks have to affect on me
17:29 <dholbach> anything else we need to do in terms of UOS planning?
17:29 <mhall119> "we" being the community council, I don't think so
17:29 <dholbach> ok
17:29 <mhall119> "we" being you and I on the community team, yeah, lots
17:30 <dholbach> haha, yes :)
17:30 <cprofitt> I think the CC should really encourage teams to get involved from a team level
17:30 <mhall119> +1
17:31 <cprofitt> I am also curious if we should allow sessions to be run at any time vs. setting times for them
17:31 <elfy> well ... it never really worked for one team I'm involved with and the other it's just unlikely to ever happen
17:31 <mhall119> Summit doesn't really support ad-hoc scheduling
17:31 <cprofitt> with it being online it might make sense to open that up so people who can not attend due to time restrictions (work, sleep, etc) can attend.
17:31 <elfy> mhall119: and that's mostly the problem imo
17:32 * mhall119 welcomes somebody to come in and replace Summit with something better
17:32 * elfy always wonders how many are missing because it IS 2am where they are
17:33 <cprofitt> mhall119: I wasn't talking about ad-hoc, but the ability to schedule things in a larger window than the typical 8 hour summit bloc. That window made sense when were gathered in a physical location, but less now that it is virutal.
17:33 <dholbach> maybe we'll manage this time to get a lot of the scheduling doine before UOS itself
17:33 <elfy> cprofitt: that
17:33 <cprofitt> I would hope we can schedule ahead of time; that would be my preference
17:33 <mhall119> cprofitt: we could expand the range of time it's open, sure
17:33 <cprofitt> that is what I was talking about mhall119
17:33 <elfy> seems that the majority running it are either US or EU time(s)
17:34 <mhall119> but getting track leads around to cover extra time is going to be dififcult
17:34 <elfy> mhall119: ack that
17:34 <cprofitt> elfy: exactly, but there is a great deal of difference between Berlin time and San Fran time.
17:34 <cprofitt> mhall119: is there a way to have a EU and a US track lead -- assuming we find the volunteers
17:34 <mhall119> we can always say "These are the core hours, track leads are around to help then, or you can use these other hours, but you're on your own to make it happen"
17:35 <elfy> mhall119: possibly useful
17:35 <mhall119> cprofitt: I think we had a decent mix the last few times, it's asia we didn't cover
17:35 <cprofitt> mhall119: I agree
17:35 <cprofitt> Do we think opening the hours and having TZ leads would help get people from Asia?
17:36 <mhall119> czajkowski: pleia2: are you around to comment on this
17:36 <mhall119> ?
17:36 <mhall119> cprofitt: maybe?
17:37 <czajkowski> sorry reading back
17:37 <czajkowski> had t jump elsewhere
17:37 <cprofitt> mhall119: yeah, that is what I was guessing... it is hard to know which came first... chicken or the egg
17:37 <dholbach> maybe we could ask folks in Asia/Oceania to come up a proposal of their own? like: propose sessions/session leaders and times and then we take it from there?
17:38 <czajkowski> I stil say schedule a longer day or take some time off in the middle of the day and add a weekend date
17:38 <cprofitt> dholbach: that should work.
17:38 <dholbach> it'll be hard to change the format and it'll be quite some work
17:38 <cprofitt> I like that idea too czajkowski
17:38 <czajkowski> its hard to volunteer mid week and work to sit at a screen. One day at weekend would help
17:38 <dholbach> and if we don't know that it's actually desired or necessary, then it might be better to focus on other stuff
17:38 <elfy> czajkowski: I'm certainly more likely to be available weekend
17:38 <cprofitt> with this being virtual there is less need to schdule it the way a physical UDS was.
17:38 <mhall119> IIRC, we had an hour block in the middle of last UDS for a break
17:38 <cprofitt> weekends would be excellent as well.
17:39 <elfy> mhall119: yea that seemed odd to me
17:39 <cprofitt> more people would not have work conflicts.
17:39 <dholbach> maybe we could have a hangout to start the UOS planning and gather some more feedback? :)
17:39 <mhall119> we can use next week's planned hangout
17:39 <mhall119> if everybody can make it
17:40 <elfy> I should actually be able to next week
17:40 * czajkowski proposes a 2 hours gap in the day at least
17:40 <dholbach> cool
17:40 <czajkowski> and adding  a day at the weekend
17:41 <mhall119> czajkowski: can you add your ideas to http://pad.ubuntu.com/PkXURXDKrM ?
17:41 * dholbach marks it as the uos hangout :)
17:41 <czajkowski> ack
17:41 <dholbach> thanks a lot :)
17:42 <dholbach> anything else?
17:42 * mhall119 has nothing else
17:42 * elfy neither
17:42 * mhall119 is thrilled that we're starting UOS talks and planning more than just a couple of weeks before it starts
17:43 <cprofitt> nothing else from me either.
17:43 <cprofitt> +1 mhall119
17:43 <dholbach> yes :)
17:43 <dholbach> ok... that's a wrap then!
17:43 <dholbach> thanks a lot everyone!
17:43 <dholbach> #stopmeeting
17:43 <cprofitt> we need to inovlve team leads as soon as possible as well.
17:43 <dholbach> yep
17:43 <elfy> dholbach: try
17:43 <pleia2> endmeeting ;)
17:43 <elfy> #endmeeting