== Meeting information == * #ubuntu-meeting Meeting, 18 Sep at 17:00 — 17:46 UTC * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2014/ubuntu-meeting.2014-09-18-17.00.log.html]] == Meeting summary == === Catching up with the IRC Council === The discussion about "Catching up with the IRC Council" started at 17:01. === Tardiness === The discussion about "Tardiness" started at 17:13. === IRC Council catchup === The discussion about "IRC Council catchup" started at 17:13. === Any other business === The discussion about "Any other business" started at 17:44. == Vote results == == Done items == * (none) == People present (lines said) == * dholbach (48) * hggdh (45) * elfy (39) * YokoZar (13) * pleia2 (9) * mhall119 (8) * meetingology (6) * DalekSec (1) == Full Log == 17:00 #startmeeting 17:00 Meeting started Thu Sep 18 17:00:43 2014 UTC. The chair is dholbach. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 17:00 17:00 Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 17:01 @chairs pleia2 elfy YokoZar 17:01 dholbach: Error: "chairs" is not a valid command. 17:01 #chairs pleia2 elfy YokoZar 17:01 hum 17:01 mmmmmmm 17:01 #chair pleia2 elfy YokoZar 17:01 Current chairs: YokoZar dholbach elfy pleia2 17:01 how long for dholbach ? 17:01 aha! 17:01 #topic Catching up with the IRC Council 17:01 do we have anyone here from the IRC Council? :) 17:02 o/ 17:02 Hello then 17:04 Tm_T, Pici, hggdh, AlanBell - any of you around? 17:05 pleia2, you were quicker - I was just looking at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-irc-council/+members :) 17:05 :) 17:05 anyone else here from the IRC team with any thoughts, comments, concerns about the IRC team? 17:07 hmmm 17:07 I just pinged folks in #ubuntu-irc 17:07 maybe in the meantime I can bring up something different real quick 17:07 I started the review of https://code.launchpad.net/~knome/config/planet-ubuntu/+merge/232014 17:08 it'd be great if anyone else could help with this as well 17:08 just so we don't accidentally drop folks form the planet configuration 17:08 I saw that 17:09 managed a quick look - I'll be able to spend a bit of time on it tomorrow 17:09 thanks a lot 17:09 I'll make sure I review the rest of it as well 17:09 it took me a while to understand that a lot of the entries were just being rearranged and not dropped entirely :) 17:10 that was where I'd come unstuck - so you saying that will help :) 17:10 I'll take a look today too 17:11 brilliant, thanks 17:11 ok... looks like nobody from the IRC team is around right now 17:12 shall we reschedule? 17:12 I think so 17:12 sounds good to me 17:13 #topic Tardiness 17:13 pleia2: here 17:13 that - or drop them a line and see what's up 17:13 ah, hello hggdh! 17:13 hi hggdh :) 17:13 dholbach: hi, long time :-) 17:13 #topic IRC Council catchup 17:13 how are you doing? 17:13 how's life? 17:13 elfy: cheers 17:14 life is good, but rather busy :-). Been to Germany, but just the Bavaria 17:14 ah nice - I'm going to be in Bavaria quite soon myself :) 17:14 how are things in IRC land? 17:15 seems stable. We -- the IRCC -- have been quite busy in our lives-outside-IRC. I have not seen any issues lately 17:16 except for SamwiseGamgee fallouts 17:16 yep 17:16 I've kind of seen that in -irc logs 17:16 do you need a summary of this case, or was my email was enough? 17:16 and he's tried the same game in the forum channel 17:16 but all in all you feel like you coped quite well with the day to day business of ubuntu irc? 17:16 hggdh: that mail was fine for me 17:17 #chair mhall119 17:17 Current chairs: YokoZar dholbach elfy mhall119 pleia2 17:17 Was fine too :) 17:17 I think we still need a bit more of attention to IRC. Although things seem to have been getting better, we can still go some more 17:18 as usual, there is always tension... 17:18 in which areas would you recommend to pay more attention to? 17:18 but, all in all, IRC -- to my perhaps biased view -- is better now than it was a few ago 17:19 I certainly haven't noticed any issues in the channels I'm in 17:19 my personal view, not necessarily reflecting the IRCC as a whole, is that we need more rotation, more new blood coming in 17:19 this does not mean the current ops would retire, though; it is more, not less or the same 17:19 hggdh: that's a *buntu wide thing - everyone has said more or less the same :) 17:19 new blood in the ops team? or the council? or the wider irc community? 17:21 new blood in ops; filling in the vacant seat in IRCC might also be good. The wider IRC community depends, heh, on the community ;-) 17:22 Ahh, reasonable 17:22 I have no idea how to recruit said blood 17:22 I am happy with the ops we have, I just feel like giving others a chance to work for the community is warranted 17:23 I do not know either, at least not right now; creating an effective and catalystic, ops is not simple 17:23 but this is it, as far as I can see, for IRC 17:24 maybe we should have an Ubuntu "job fair" :) 17:24 hggdh: so has the IRCC thought about calling for someone to fill the vacant spot? 17:24 doesnot sound a bad idea at all 17:24 dholbach: ha ha ha 17:24 dholbach: that really is a good idea 17:24 elfy: I personally have been thinking about it 17:24 or at least an event where teams can explain what kind of folks they are looking for 17:25 have not yet checked with the rest of the council 17:25 hggdh: ok - thanks - saved me asking :) 17:25 mhall119, maybe we should bring it up on the ubuntu-community-team@ list :) 17:25 dholbach: yes, and then we can expand it there 17:25 rock and roll 17:25 hggdh: do you want to broach the subject with them - then see what happens then, if needed we could do so - but probably best if you all did 17:26 I'll send the mail out in a bit 17:26 dholbach: good plan :) 17:26 elfy: ack, will do 17:26 hggdh: okey doke - let us know if you need anything then 17:27 will do. Thank you for this opportunity, and sorry for being late (got my grandson here today, and he is all hands on deck...) 17:27 don't worry :) 17:27 indeed not :) 17:27 it's good to hear that things are ticking along nicely 17:27 hggdh: on deck or on kbd? 17:27 heh 17:27 I hope I can keep him from being a kbd strip... 17:28 not got that far here- I might be old enough, but no elflets yet :) 17:28 :) 17:28 hggdh: lol 17:28 hggdh, did you approve any "irc members" recently? 17:28 dholbach: no, I have not, at least do not remember. I think Pici did 17:28 oh 17:28 hggdh: quick question 17:29 you mean Ubuntu members via IRC -- no, none 17:29 yep 17:29 ok 17:29 there are some proposed people sitting on https://launchpad.net/~irc-ubuntu-ops 17:29 will look at them 17:29 what's going on with those? 17:30 elfy: cannot say (which is a shorthand for "it seems I messed up somewhere") 17:30 :) 17:30 Ahhh 17:30 will look at them; we just missed the IRC monthly (it would have been yesterday, I was for it, and got diverted by a work crisis) 17:31 hggdh: thanks 17:31 so, we will figure something out 17:32 is there anything else you feel the CC could help with? or things you feel should be looked at? 17:33 only the empty seat, right now; we had considered, initially, that we would be able to cope but life got in the way; pretty much all are busy, so we (er, *I*) need to have this seat filled 17:33 .. 17:33 hggdh: will the current IRCC members nominate somebody to fill the seat? 17:34 hggdh: so we'll leave that with you for the moment? 17:34 or should we have an open call for nominations? 17:34 ok... how do we move on from here? do we just call for nominees (who sends out the call?) and follow http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncil/Restaffing? 17:34 mhall119: I feel we should not 17:35 I would rather go on a request for candidates; I do not want any impression of we gaming the system 17:37 hggdh: ok - so you want to do the call and then forward them to us? 17:37 elfy: I can. Which MLs should I target? 17:38 mmm 17:38 hggdh: Did you want to discuss with other IRC council members first? 17:38 there doesn't seem to be an irc-members ML 17:38 DalekSec: I would rather and, in fact, *will*. But I still can take on the attribution to send out the announcement 17:39 there is an ubuntu-irc @lists.ubuntu.com is that used? 17:39 mhall119: ubuntu=irc@ubuntu.com 17:39 brilliant 17:39 lists.ubuntu.com, even 17:39 hggdh: you could mail the fridge too 17:40 I'll make sure it gets posted to fridge 17:40 ack. ubuntu-irc and fridge (with copies to CC and IRCC) 17:40 * elfy thought pleia2 would say that :p 17:40 ubuntu-news-team is fridge :) 17:41 pleia2: heh. I was not really going to pin in on my fridge ;-) 17:41 oh 17:41 hehe 17:41 is that *not* how you do it :( 17:41 hggdh's pet for IRCC 17:41 :-D 17:43 any more questions for hggdh and the IRC Council? 17:43 so. I will start with an internal poll; I will either update the CC with the results of the poll (meaning the IRCC does not agree with me), or send out a RFC to ubuntu-irc, ubuntu-news-team, copies to CC and IRCC 17:43 none from me 17:43 thanks hggdh 17:44 you are all welcome. I am sorry for the lateness 17:44 hggdh: you're welcome and excused :) 17:44 thanks for your time 17:44 thank you all for yours :-) 17:44 Thank you everyone 17:44 thanks a lot! 17:44 #topic Any other business 17:45 nothing from me 17:45 same here, planet config was the only bit I had 17:45 anyone else? 17:45 nope 17:45 not from me 17:46 all right... in that case... 17:46 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)