15:04 #startmeeting 15:04 Meeting started Thu Apr 10 15:04:09 2014 UTC. The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 15:04 15:04 Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 15:04 o/ 15:04 hi, sorry for being late 15:04 'sok, we're only just getting started 15:04 [TOPIC] Lightning round 15:04 $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh bdmurray slangasek cjwatson xnox caribou infinity mvo) 15:04 xnox stgraber bdmurray doko jodh cjwatson mvo slangasek barry caribou infinity 15:05 hm?! 15:05 ok. 15:05 I assume barry is walking around in the conference center 15:05 * upstart: 15:05 - worked on cgroups - good progress, still a few state transitions 15:05 left, moving post-release 15:05 - still to upload staged minor fixes in upstart packaging branch 15:05 with reload fix 15:05 * ubiquity/installer: 15:05 - dropped u1 + fixed AP tests fall-out 15:05 - resolved missing/wrong backgrounds on xubuntu/studio 15:05 - resolved missing overlay scrollbars in ubiquity live session (to upload) 15:05 - resolved "ubiquity is too wide" a little more (to upload) 15:05 - with cking/apw found missing block device kernel modules in udebs (uploaded) 15:05 * revert ubuntu-sso-client to unbreak software-center 15:05 * reviewed pre-release website, sent of a list of bugs/typos. 15:05 * migrating remaining clicks to python3, will send status email later 15:05 today to ubuntu-phone m.l. 15:05 todo: 15:05 * bug #1303815 15:05 * bug #1301720 15:05 bug 1303815 in plymouth (Ubuntu Trusty) "cloud image boot produces unnecessary output" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1303815 15:05 bug 1301720 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Trusty) "[Text Entry] Missing English input in Simplified and Traditional Chinese default enviroment" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1301720 15:05 next week working in the office 15:06 doko: is he doing laps? 15:06 .. 15:06 enoclue 15:06 - cgmanager 15:06 - Updated our website to be vaguely more useful: 15:06 https://cgmanager.linuxcontainers.org 15:06 - Debugging a few bugs that showed up after we turned cgmanager support in 15:06 logind. 15:06 - Fixed a bunch of upstart jobs issues discovered by Touch during stress 15:06 test, fixed that and got my Nexus4 to boot succesfuly around 400 times in 15:06 a row. 15:06 - Still debugging one of those now (logind using 100% of CPU...) 15:06 - LXC 15:06 - Several updates to our apparmor profiles to support the new apparmor 15:07 version and workaround new parser bugs. 15:07 - Fixes to some of our tests. 15:07 - Integrated our PPA and Coverity uploads into the Jenkins jobs, now our 15:07 whole build and test infrastructure has been moved to 15:07 https://jenkins.linuxcontainers.org 15:07 - Usual code review 15:07 - Sent the formal micro-conference proposal for Plumbers 2014 15:07 - Followed up on the LXC sprint at LinuxCon NA 2014 15:07 - Tagged, released and uploaded LXC 1.0.3 15:07 - Network 15:07 - Upgrade fixes for ifupdown and isc-dhcp. 15:07 - Other 15:07 - Tracked down and fixed a couple of sssd issues. 15:07 - Queue reviews and last minute FFes. 15:07 15:07 Will be sligthly harder to reach this afternoon as I'll be working from the 15:07 Montreal office to catch up with doko and barry. 15:07 (DONE) 15:07 xnox: oh yay, so all the clicks are python3-ready now? 15:08 errors: research into cassandra database space saving mechanisms 15:08 errors: worked on not writing ProcMaps for python tracebacks and removing it for crashes with a dupe sig 15:08 errors: submitted RT #69068 regarding cassandra database stats missing 15:08 foundations bug triage 15:08 recreated and research into fixing whoopsie bug 1261096 15:08 tested laney's fix for bug 1261096 15:08 tested and discovered why bug 1300465 is invalid 15:08 bug 1261096 in activity-log-manager (Ubuntu) "whoopsie-preferences respawns whoopsie in an infinite loop" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1261096 15:08 bug 1300465 in python-apt (Ubuntu) "description dialog is empty" [High,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1300465 15:08 research into bug 1277706 and cleanup of its duplicates 15:08 investigation into update-manager bug 1164558 15:08 worked on a fix for bug 1302380 15:08 ubuntu-release-upgrader code reviews for mvo 15:08 bug 1277706 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Precise) "ubiquity in precise-updates, doesn't have tight enough dependency on python-apt leading to crashers" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1277706 15:08 bug 1164558 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Not able to use updater: "You are not allowed to perform this action"" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1164558 15:08 bug 1302380 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "package installation failure during partial upgrade reports crash against ubuntu-release-upgrader" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1302380 15:08 proposed a merge for unattended-upgrades that adds an apport package hook 15:08 SRU verification of bug 1286161 15:08 bug 1286161 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Trusty) "13.10 -> 14.04 upgrade failed: initramfs failed to ugprade, udev is not configured yet" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1286161 15:08 sru review of a couple of packages for OEM priority bug reports 15:08 posted Ubuntu DMB meeting results 15:08 ✔ done 15:09 holiday(s): 2 15:09 - ruby1.8 removal 15:09 - GCC updates, bringen armhf and arm64 regression fixes, and updated towards the 4.8.2 and 4.9.0 releases 15:09 - openjdk-7 arm64 fixes 15:09 - some random ftbfs fixes 15:09 - ppc64el fixes 15:09 - job interviews 15:09 - PyCon 15:09 (done) 15:09 * foundations-1305-upstart-work-items: 15:09 - cgroup support: 15:09 - Virtual upstart cgroups sprint with xnox on Friday. Productive but 15:09 highlighted a limitation of the current branch. 15:09 - Feature won't now land in trusty (postponed). 15:09 * upstart: 15:09 - Reviewed and merged lp:~xnox/upstart/lp1303891. 15:09 - Reviewed and merged lp:~xnox/upstart/no-python.in. 15:09 - Updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/TechnicalOverviewUpstart. 15:09 - Investigating Upstart SEGV issue. Maybe be related to fix for bug 15:09 1222705. 15:09 - Updated upstart-events(7). 15:09 * other: 15:09 - Short week as out Monday and Tuesday. 15:09 ꓩ 15:09 Updated germinate and tasksel for trusty. 15:09 Finished porting GHC to arm64. 15:09 user-setup tweaks (bug 1304008, bug 1069684). 15:09 Fixed putty assertion failure (bug 1289176). 15:09 Educated installer on copying xattrs (bug 1302192). 15:09 Applied grub-installer patch to fall back to grub-pc if ESP is missing (bug 1302418). 15:09 bug 1304008 in user-setup (Ubuntu) "user not added to libvirtd group with iso trusty 'virtual machine host' installation method" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1304008 15:09 Cleaned out a good deal of cruft from ubiquity. 15:09 bug 1069684 in user-setup (Ubuntu) "installer let us choose a system user as our primary user account, without warning" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1069684 15:10 Error: Launchpad bug 1289176 could not be found 15:10 Started working through various removals, component-mismatches cleanup, etc. in an effort to get this all clear by release. 15:10 bug 1302192 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Trusty) "capabilities not preserved on installation" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1302192 15:10 bug 1302418 in grub-installer (Ubuntu Trusty) "grub-installer should fall back to grub-pc instead of grub-efi when there is no EFI system partition" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1302418 15:10 Updated translations in a few places. 15:10 Lots of queue reviews. 15:10 Still trying to figure out what's up with GRUB and LVM snapshots. 15:10 .. 15:10 mvo: you're up\ 15:10 release bugfixing 15:10 apt: cherry pick fixes, Bug#743413, add src package cachedb 15:10 debug/fix JDK removal with latest apt #1302736, add test for apt-ftparchive --db sources, debug/fix missing ^rc pkgs in apt list (mvo/bugfix/apt-list-rc-pkgs), 15:10 gdebi: review/merge/upload https://code.launchpad.net/~barry/gdebi/lp1301422/+merge/214257, debug/fix #1304657 and add regression test mvo/bugfix/lp1304657-perms, apt: debug #1304403 (libkrb-srv-mit8 upgrade issue), debug/fix spurious test failure caused by a race condition in the tests, upload 1.0.1ubuntu1 15:11 update-manager: look at #1301776 15:11 unattended-upgrades: debug cache broken error, debug/fix #743594 15:11 release-upgrader: debug #1294124, fix demotion display, upload new version, pgrade test #1298281, fix release upgrade prompting from "normal" to "lts", lp:~mvo/ubuntu-release-upgrader/text-install-progress, debug/fix #1304365 (wayland upgrade bug), improve apt.log, fix crash in DistUpgradeViewText, remove gnome-session special handling, debug/fix #1304403 15:11 update-manager: upload fix for #1164558 15:11 libc6: debug regression in desktop upgrade mode (#1298281) 15:11 (done) 15:11 the report is not well organized sorry for that 15:11 next 15:11 * mvo will do better next time 15:11 next is slangasek I think :) 15:12 mvo: clearly you are spending too much time fixing bugs and not enough time writing reports about it 15:12 * end-of-cycle package uploads for ppc64el enablement 15:12 * generate a netboot directory for ppc64el from d-i, so it's sane to netboot without having to set everything up yourself 15:12 * interviewing for Java role 15:12 (done) 15:12 * Tech Board discussions about Ubuntu Kylin archive 15:12 * various freeze reviews 15:13 no barry 15:13 caribou: 15:13 * openstack debugging 15:13 * sosreport development for trusty 15:13 done 15:14 * continued to enjoy being a tourist in meetings 15:14 (done) 15:15 :) 15:16 any questions above? 15:17 [TOPIC] Trusty release freeze 15:17 final freeze is in, um, some small number of hours 15:18 is there anything pending that we should talk about before we get there? 15:18 6 15:18 hours, not uploads. 15:18 (that maybe you're desperately working on right now to get in before the deadline, and it might be helpful to give your friends in the release team a heads-up that it's on its way) 15:19 I'm going to lob a glibc at the archive soon. Was just waiting on final word from Adhemerval that he has no last-minute ppc fixes for me. 15:19 I have the GRUB LVM snapshot fix, think I have something plausible now 15:19 we'll probably have a cgmanager fix 15:19 ubiquity... upstart... 15:19 it might be nice to get one software-center upload to get 2 common errors.ubuntu.com issues off the table but I'm not sure who is doing this these days 15:19 (Now that I've worked out that it isn't actually a problem in the core C code at all, but a grub-mkconfig scripting bug) 15:19 ok, so nothing major anywhere then ;) 15:19 just grub ubiquity upstart cgmanager and glibc 15:19 Nah, business as usual. 15:19 there's a somewhat rare condition where logind will get stuck and use 100% of your CPU, hallyn is looking into that now and managed to reproduce it a couple minutes ago 15:19 No one needs those packages. 15:20 slangasek: what did you expect from this team, fluffy desktop stuff? :) 15:20 mvo: software-center -> we've been just uploading it with $ debsign & dput so far. 15:20 stgraber: sounds like a clear bugfix that would qualify during final freeze, provided that we figure it out 15:21 xnox: thanks 15:21 have two fixes pending: fixing the python3.4 ftbfs on aarch64, and landing the python3.4 ensurepip fix (which I'll look at with barry today) 15:21 mvo: you can poke Rodney Dawes about it (e.g. reviews / uploads) or just upload. 15:21 cjwatson: no, the fluffy is for the cloud server 15:21 preferring to fix the ftbfs on aarch64 with the just uploaded binutils 15:22 slangasek: yeah, all we know for know is that in some cases we get stuck in a loop of EAGAIN inside the nih auto-generated code, hopefully it's just caused by an actual bug in cgmanager's dbus service and not by a bug in the code generator :) 15:22 did the release team discuss icedtea-web? 15:23 and I assume it's a bit late for the valgrind update ... 15:23 I think everyone's scared off by the diff, but nobody has rejected it yet 15:24 valgrind is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/valgrind/+bug/1300070 15:24 Launchpad bug 1300070 in valgrind (Ubuntu Trusty) "valgrind 3.10/trunk update to support AArch64" [Undecided,New] 15:24 doko: I didn't see any discussion, I think it's been suffering from queue starvation for a lot of other stuff coming through hot. Did you get the valgrind testing from the phone folks? 15:25 (if you're waiting for the release team to drive that, it probably won't get done in time) 15:25 have to check with tvoss ... 15:25 ok 15:25 hmm, maybe a bad time to discuss with him ... 15:26 doko: nah, he's /back/ to work now 15:26 AIUI 15:26 That was a quick parental leave. 15:26 well, ICBW 15:26 and other acronyms 15:27 so yeah, maybe you do want someone other than tvoss. kgunn? 15:27 InterContinental Ballistic Weasels? 15:27 infinity: wessels 15:29 [TOPIC] AOB 15:29 anything else, besides uploading half the base system 5h before freeze? 15:30 We could do the other half too. 15:30 5h is way too optimistic, I expect most of those to be uploaded within an hour of the freeze ;) 15:31 * slangasek gets an ulcer 15:31 Slightly more seriously, if people have good ideas (markety or buggy) for the release notes, it's a wiki, go add crap. I can always delete if we have too much, but no one likes panicing to write it all on Thursday morning. 15:31 no more planned openjdk and gcc uploads today 15:31 doko: I like the "today" qualifier on that. 15:31 doko: oh, just the unplanned ones 15:31 infinity: did you just stage wiki page dead-lock?! =) 15:32 xnox: No, because no one will do it. 15:32 * slangasek turns and points at everyone else in the channel 15:33 do we have a list of release-notey bugs to work from, this cycle? 15:33 Don't know if people have been adding tasks. 15:33 * xnox was doing random searches of high/critical and things targeted at trusty milestones. it's not much 15:33 damn, you did catch both "unplanned" and "today" ... 15:33 There's always the ISO tracker bugs, but I'd like to think we'll fix the worst ones and pretend the rest don't exist because we're awesome. 15:33 I don't think we've been particularly good at targeting + tagging bugs this cycle 15:34 the "rls-management" report is not very useful either. 15:34 xnox: there's an ubuntu-release-notes project 15:34 if things should be release noted, and you don't have time to write the blurb, please target a task there 15:34 and if you do have time to write the blurb, look there for things that might need writing :) 15:35 they look old... 15:36 xnox: old ones ought to be wontfixed 15:36 xnox: which rls-management report? 15:36 we're not realistically going to update the saucy release notes now 15:36 bdmurray: rls-tracking/notracking/wontfixing 15:36 bdmurray: http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-t-tracking-bug-tasks.html 15:36 To be fair, we've tended in the past to be a bit too liberal in our release noteyness. If it doesn't cause people installation/upgrade headaches or other such nastiness, it's just a bug, not a bug worth telling every single person about. 15:37 infinity: I disagree; major bugs that are going to be FAQs if we don't document them are worth including 15:37 not just bugs specifically related to installation and upgrade 15:37 slangasek: That falls under "other nastiness", I suspect. It's a judgement call. 15:38 (and it's not really telling "everyone", just the .3% of users who read the release notes ;) 15:38 slangasek: But there were people in the past that felt that anything with a release-notes task or a tracker link was release note worthy just cause. ;) 15:38 right, Judgement must be Exercised 15:39 Oh joy. A glibc regression on (only) power8 that I now need to sort out if I just introduced or if it's always been there but I've never run the testsuit on P8 before. 15:39 infinity: enjoy 15:39 (Betting the latter) 15:39 slangasek: i wonder if both firefox and thunderbird need uploading. Firefox - because of nbs dependency & Thunderbird to drop U1 from sendit plugin. 15:40 unless both things are in the works. 15:40 xnox: I'm on firefox already. 15:40 xnox: AIUI dropping the thunderbird plugin was not strictly required 15:40 infinity: why is that not for the desktop team to take care of? 15:40 xnox: I've had the fix committed for weeks, but now that we're past the point of no return for Chris uploading new versions (ie: I won't let him), I'll take care of it. :P 15:41 slangasek: Well, like I said, I committed the fix to bzr weeks ago. 15:41 slangasek: Under the assumption that it would magically land in Chris's next upload. And there wasn't one. :) 15:41 infinity: which branches are used for thunderbird/firefox? (i lost track of the thunderbird patch) 15:41 slangasek: ack. 15:42 ok 15:42 so, enough talk, back to action :) 15:42 #endmeeting