16:00 #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team 16:00 Meeting started Tue Aug 20 16:00:33 2013 UTC. The chair is smoser. 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16:03 smoser: seems that jamespage took care of it 16:03 zul to follow up on mariadb/percona making it into Saucy 16:03 roaksoax, yeah - I was on a roll for dkms updates... 16:03 hallyn_ to coordinate with zul and smb on testing xen 4.3 on nova 16:03 that's less stable than i realized. haven't progressed much 16:04 smoser: done 16:04 I think distracted would be a better word :) 16:04 arosales to update Juju blueprints 16:04 (haven't gotten xen 4.3 to work for me at all) 16:04 smoser, in progress for vUDS coming up 16:04 smoser: dlm reviewed and accepted 16:04 ok. i'll push the xen item to next weke also 16:04 * smoser hallyn_ to coordinate with zul and smb on testing xen 4.3 on nova 16:04 #action hallyn_ to coordinate with zul and smb on testing xen 4.3 on nova 16:04 * meetingology hallyn_ to coordinate with zul and smb on testing xen 4.3 on nova 16:04 smoser, you missed "jamespage to clean-up openvswitch packaging for 12.04.3 " 16:05 status ? 16:05 jamespage: I started reviewing that for SRU, but not yet complete 16:05 well as you ask :-) 16:05 decided to take a different approach 16:05 its actually only the dkms package thats not compatible 16:06 and the user-space tools we have in 12.04 should be compatibile with a dkms module from raring 16:06 cool 16:06 so we are going to backport lts-raring variants of the openvswitch-datapath-* modules to 12.04 16:06 Daviey is reviewing 16:06 #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseSchedule 16:07 feature freeze is 29th. 16:07 i personally would like to see a cloud images beta1. 16:07 utlemming, can we just plan on that ? 16:08 smosser: sure, I think that is a great idea 16:08 as always, please get / have blueprints in order. 16:08 smoser: I'll plan on that happening 16:08 k. 16:08 anyone have anything else here ? or do we move to release bugs now ? 16:09 #subtopic Release Bugs 16:09 hm.. 16:09 #topic Release Bugs 16:10 #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-s-tracking-bug-tasks.html#server 16:11 bug 1175028 seems in fix-committed. 16:11 bug 1175028 in mongodb (Ubuntu Saucy) "Mongodb links GPL code with SSL" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1175028 16:11 bug 1208455. 16:11 bug 1208455 in linux (Ubuntu Saucy) "general protection fault running apt-get inside double nested kvm VM" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1208455 16:11 smb: ^ 16:12 it looks like smb has some movement on that as recently as 18 hours ago 16:12 hallyn_, Working on it 16:12 moving on. 16:12 +1 16:12 bug 1213915 16:12 bug 1213915 in ceph (Ubuntu Saucy) "Please demote ceph-mds and ceph-fs-common to universe" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1213915 16:12 i'm geussing mr jamespage has that under control. 16:12 bug 16:12 1156932 16:12 meh - waiting for a archive-admin 16:12 bug 1156932 16:12 bug 1156932 in python-novaclient (Ubuntu Saucy) "User can't modify security-group-rule via nova-api if there are duplicated security group name" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1156932 16:13 oh -thats a nice one 16:14 not sure its a 'High' tho 16:15 i guess we should push that a bit upstream. 16:15 there aren't work arounds other than "don't do that" 16:15 zul, any chance upstream will do something about that - its possible to have a broken nova api call right now 16:15 ill look 16:16 ah. you can, Aaron Rosen's comment is quite good. 16:16 i agree, not High. 16:16 bug 1206872 16:16 bug 1206872 in samba (Ubuntu Saucy) "samba fails to unpack (behavior change in patch) and ftbfs on aarch64" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1206872 16:17 i'll assume matthias has that. 16:17 I started looking at the merge for that 16:17 ok. good. 16:17 but got uncomfortable as slangasek's upstart/init goodness appeared to get dropped 16:17 so I pinged him then forgot - my bad 16:18 you're syaing its reported fixed in debian ? 16:18 oh. yeah, i see that. 16:18 k. never mind. 16:18 nmoving on. 16:18 jamespage, please do ping slangasek again. 16:18 bug 1199791 16:18 smoser, will do 16:18 bug 1199791 in nova (Ubuntu Saucy) "nova-compute-xcp misses nova-compute.conf" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1199791 16:19 zul you have athat in hand ? 16:19 bug 1203828 16:19 bug 1203828 in mysql-5.5 (Ubuntu Saucy) "mysql 5.5.32, 5.1.70 security update tracking bug" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1203828 16:21 mdeslaur, ^? is that under control 16:21 bug 1203828 16:21 bug 1203828 in mysql-5.5 (Ubuntu Saucy) "mysql 5.5.32, 5.1.70 security update tracking bug" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1203828 16:21 bah 16:21 bug 1170393 16:21 bug 1170393 in neutron (Ubuntu Saucy) "Quantum services should be respawned by upstart if necessary" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1170393 16:22 bug 1188069 16:22 bug 1188069 in apache2 (Ubuntu Saucy) "apache2 mod_rewrite CVE 2013-1862" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1188069 16:22 that one is fix-committed, so moving on. 16:22 leave that to security team. 16:22 bug 1180397 16:22 bug 1180397 in xen (Ubuntu Saucy) "Xen stable update to 4.2.2" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1180397 16:23 I need to check with infinity to get those moving one by one 16:23 k. thank you smb. 16:23 Oh well actually rather would aboid that for S 16:23 And go 4.3 16:23 yeah. 16:23 you can update the bug subject. you're the opener, smb 16:23 bug 1031680 16:23 bug 1031680 in nagios-plugins (Ubuntu Raring) "check_apt always report 0 critical updates" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031680 16:24 that one doesn't hae anyone assigned. 16:24 hm.. 16:25 rbasak, could youjust take a look at that offline 16:25 make sure its not just getting missed 16:25 #topic Blueprints 16:25 link http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-s/group/topic-s-servercloud-overview.html 16:26 smoser: I'm not currently working on the mysql package...if someone from the server team can take a look, I'd appreciate it, else it will have to wait until I get back from vacation 16:26 hm.. there is a lot of rred there, and we are near feature freeze. 16:26 mdeslaur, thanks for the follow up. 16:27 i think i'm generally just going to ask everyon e(and myself to take a look at your blueprints andensure that they're in a reasonable state) 16:27 yup, with ff a week away... 16:27 #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (plars) 16:28 -> psivaa 16:28 plars, anything ? 16:28 no updates from the qa side 16:28 k. 16:28 #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) 16:28 Currently working on bug 1208455 which jodh reported. But also would really want xen 4.3 to get into Saucy but the window closes. I do not think it would have a real impact on anything but xen-api, xen-api-libs and blktap. All tree look to be parts of the xen cloud platform (open source xen-server) from Citrix. And all three are FTBS even without the xen update. They only exist in the archive as they got pocket-copied over from previous re 16:28 leases. 16:28 bug 1208455 in linux (Ubuntu Saucy) "general protection fault running apt-get inside double nested kvm VM" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1208455 16:28 double nested ? 16:29 s/double // 16:29 smoser, yeah, in the end he uses 3 levels 16:29 But the problem actually can be seen in the 2nd level already 16:30 wow. 16:30 slangasek, So yeah, probably should remove the double there 16:30 well, the three levels we care about are host, outer VM, inner VM 16:30 smoser, Better do not ask _what_ he does, cause I don't know :) 16:30 to be clear 16:30 smoser: ftr, all I'm trying to do is create a kvm instance that is controllable from the autopkgtest env. Just so happens that when I create my instance, there are already 2 instances behind me ;) 16:31 smb: jenkins dispatches vms; integration tests for upstart requires booting under a test harness; thus, nested vms are required 16:31 or else jenkins needs to dispatch to bare metal instead 16:31 tbh, I think bug 1031680 will get missed. It's more in depth as it seems, and needs to be dealt with with care. 16:31 bug 1031680 in nagios-plugins (Ubuntu Raring) "check_apt always report 0 critical updates" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031680 16:31 note that this bug seems to hold up an important fix for touch images 16:31 ogra_: that's a separate discussion that I need to have with rsalveti today 16:31 (the kvm one) 16:32 ah, k 16:32 Fundamentally it's an upstream bug, which tries to understand apt in a broken way, and fixing it is considerable upstream work. 16:32 slangasek, presumably a workaround would be to disable kvm 16:32 A workaround is available. 16:32 Not breaking compatibility is the difficult part. 16:32 smoser: running qemu without paravirt? hmmmm 16:32 other than being painfully slow, that would workaround the bug. 16:32 hadn't considered that 16:32 well, "painfully slow" is the status quo 16:32 speed is overrated :) 16:33 we need to be able to do fast upstart integration tests 16:33 orders of magnitude performance affected i suspect. 16:33 yeah. its not a fix. 16:33 if it's too slow, we can bypass it by running them locally instead 16:33 its a workaround 16:33 anyway. 16:33 it's around, but it doesn't work for us ;) 16:33 So far it seems that at least with Q and R as host and not running 64bit qemu on 32 bit guest things are more stable for me 16:34 smoser, and that is with kvm enabled 16:34 oh wow. running 64 bit qemu in 32 bit guest ? 16:34 ermm I hope that's not the way we're doing it 16:34 it just gets better and better :) 16:35 jodh: ^^ are you really running 64-bit inner guest on a 32-bit outer guest? If so, don't 16:35 wow, that means we could also have arm64 under armhf :) 16:35 slangasek, That was what jodh was doing 16:35 smb: do we have a handle yet as to what is causing the kernel crashes? Does this need to be raised on lkml? 16:35 slangasek: no, I am not :) 16:35 ok 16:35 i'm gonna move on here, and assume that slangasek, smb, and jodh can figure it out. 16:35 slangasek: well, not knowingly. But the distinction between 'qemu', 'kvm' and all the sym link horror of the multiple binaries might be doing stuff... 16:35 jodh, You were using qemu-system-x86_64 in the guest that was i386 16:36 smb: I was using what was provided by 'kvm'. 16:36 should we maybe take this elsewhere and not derail the meeting in progress? :) 16:36 which is what autopkgtest does 16:36 yeah, please take up in #ubuntu-server. 16:36 slangasek, agree to take it away 16:36 * smoser is interested, but this is a bit long here. 16:36 #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak) 16:37 rbasak, do we have a kernel that we could put in the cloud iamges ? i tihnk we hvae no maas images for ephemerla for saucy at the moment due to lack of sufficent kernel... 16:37 i suppose i should have a bug on that, but i do not. 16:37 smoser: the saucy ephemeral arm images are back to normal now...it was a qemu bug 16:37 smoser: we have a generic kernel now 16:38 That would do. 16:38 utlemming, oh? ok. that is good. well i will raise bug if there is an issue. 16:38 I'll need to check exact status, but the general plan is to have lpae and non-lpae variants 16:38 what is the 'generic' kernel ? 16:38 just actually 'generic' like on other arch ? 16:38 I think there is going to be some issues since we are using the OMAP kernel with the OMAP loaders. 16:38 Yes, but there are a limited number of platforms that support it. Hopefully that number will grow 16:38 rbasak: we should sync tomorrow morning on this 16:39 ack 16:39 cool. thanks rbasak utlemming . 16:39 +1 for growing number of platforms 16:39 #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events 16:39 anyone have anything here? 16:39 vuds is next week 16:39 oh yeah. 16:39 that 16:39 :) 16:39 and feature freeze too 16:39 and i move at the same time 16:41 so .. if anyone is looking 16:41 http://paste.ubuntu.com/6007053/ 16:41 is a list of openstack proposals that ubuntu members have submitted. 16:42 i fyou think those are interested and have openstack voting rights (ie, you are an openstack community member), then vote 16:42 you can generically vote for speakers at http://www.openstack.org/rate/Presentation/how-to-monetise-your-openstack-cloud-service 16:42 gah 16:43 click VOTE HERE at http://www.openstack.org/summit/openstack-summit-hong-kong-2013/ 16:43 http://www.openstack.org/summit/openstack-summit-hong-kong-2013/ 16:43 * smoser cut and paste fail 16:43 #topic Open Discussion 16:43 anyone have anything her e? 16:44 k 16:44 #topic Announce next meeting date and time 16:44 tune in next week at Tuesday 2013-08-27 at 1600 UTC for the continuing saga of ubuntu server development. 16:44 smoser, thanks for chairing 16:44 #endmeeting