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15:07:29 <JontheEchidna> oops
15:07:34 <JontheEchidna> Darkwing: thanks
15:07:35 <smartboyhw> Got it now:)
15:07:47 <xnox> smartboyhw: have you been involved in UbuntuKylin? The new chinese ubuntu flavour?
15:07:52 <Darkwing> #meetingtopic membership of smartboyhw
15:08:09 <smartboyhw> xnox, sort of:)
15:08:14 <Darkwing> #meetingtopic kubuntu membership of smartboyhw
15:09:07 <jussi> smartboyhw: give us an introduction to who you are, and your activity in Ubuntu/Kubuntu
15:09:16 <smartboyhw> jussi, OK
15:09:26 <jussi> Darkwing: #topic
15:09:30 <smartboyhw> I'm Howard Chan, 14-year-old active contributor to Ubuntu/Kubuntu
15:09:41 <Darkwing> #topic kubuntu membership of smartboyhw
15:09:43 <smartboyhw> I joined Kubuntu to start work on some development
15:09:51 <Darkwing> #meetingtopic kubuntu meeting
15:09:56 <smartboyhw> And so I am now starting to help packaging:)
15:10:13 <smartboyhw> Some applications I have packaged include
15:10:57 <smartboyhw> Calligra, Rekonq, libktorrent (+ request KTorrent sync) Homerun, kde-gtk-config and request for skrooge sync
15:11:09 <smartboyhw> I've also helped testing for Kubuntu in Alpha 1 + 12.04.2
15:11:29 <smartboyhw> And as for the general Ubuntu contributions....
15:11:39 <smartboyhw> I'm an active member of the Ubuntu Community QA Team
15:11:44 <valorie> they are impressive!
15:11:50 <smartboyhw> I help to write testcases, and test ISO images
15:12:04 * smartboyhw ranked third in testing 12.04.2 images BTW (really weird)
15:12:19 <smartboyhw> And also I am an contributor to Ubuntu Studio
15:12:30 <smartboyhw> QA also, and release matters
15:12:33 <smartboyhw> ..
15:13:03 * smartboyhw is a Kubuntu Ninja BTQ
15:13:09 <smartboyhw> s/BTQ/BTW/ :P
15:13:10 <valorie> you are already an Ubuntu Member; why are you now applying for Kubuntu membership as well?
15:13:21 <Darkwing> dang it valorie that was my question :P:P
15:13:22 <smartboyhw> valorie, this is the most important question
15:13:31 <valorie> hehe
15:13:54 <smartboyhw> apachelogger once said that joining in ~kubuntu-packagers and have commit access to these branches should either be ~ubuntu-core-dev or ~kubuntu-members
15:14:07 <jussi> smartboyhw: how long have you been contributing to Kubuntu?
15:14:39 <smartboyhw> I do feel that I have the trust from community + enough learning of packaging to have commit access
15:14:49 <smartboyhw> jussi, 1 month or so (maybe more)
15:14:50 <smartboyhw> IDK
15:14:53 * smartboyhw has forgotten
15:15:12 <valorie> do you intend to get involved with the upstream KDE community?
15:15:26 <smartboyhw> valorie, yes. Possibly with Calligra or Rekonq
15:15:56 <smartboyhw> I don't want to just help them with packaging
15:16:04 <smartboyhw> But also actual bug-fixing
15:16:14 <JontheEchidna> That's great
15:16:16 <smartboyhw> (upstream)
15:16:23 <valorie> a month or so seems very short to me, however you have a good record with Ubuntu already
15:16:31 <smartboyhw> Riddell already gave me a +1
15:16:34 <smartboyhw> :P
15:16:35 <Darkwing> Where do you see yourself within Kubuntu in a year?
15:16:48 <valorie> both those teams could use your enthusiasm for sure
15:16:49 <smartboyhw> Darkwing, if I can I would want to be ~kubuntu-dev
15:17:12 <valorie> are you planning to attend Akademy?
15:17:25 <valorie> registration has just opened
15:17:34 <smartboyhw> valorie, no (I've got school don't forget, and when it's Akademy time I'll be London for study tour)
15:17:38 <smartboyhw> Really sorry
15:17:55 <smartboyhw> Possibly I will want to meet Riddell or phillw in person:P (LOL)
15:18:02 <valorie> bummer
15:18:03 <Darkwing> smartboyhw: do you run Kubuntu at the moment?
15:18:14 <valorie> cool on the trip, bummer on missing us
15:18:31 <smartboyhw> Darkwing, no actually (since strangely my login screen breaks my graphics)
15:18:37 <smartboyhw> And I still got Ubuntu Studio to support:P
15:18:45 <smartboyhw> I want to get that fixed too
15:18:59 <smartboyhw> (but that will require some in-depth look into kernel modules + AMD drivers)
15:19:20 <Darkwing> smartboyhw: Yeah, it does on mine as well, that's why I'm running the LTS.
15:19:29 <smartboyhw> Darkwing, I don't run LTSes
15:19:41 <smartboyhw> I need to be in the development release at all times
15:19:53 <smartboyhw> for QA + packaging trial-installs-plus-runs
15:20:17 <Darkwing> So, beyond kubuntu-dev, what is the reason you are looking for kubuntu-membership?
15:20:34 <smartboyhw> Darkwing, I am really hoping to contribute to Kubuntu long-time
15:20:51 <Darkwing> Do you feel that you need to be a kubuntu member for that?
15:20:58 <smartboyhw> As you can see from my Planet Ubuntu posts, I am starting to get disappointed in Canonical's policies
15:21:34 <smartboyhw> Darkwing, not exactly. However I want to wear my ~kubuntu-members *badge or whatever* with pride
15:21:46 <smartboyhw> That I am indeed contributing to KDE and Kubuntu
15:21:51 <valorie> you might want to add your blog to the KDE planet as well
15:21:52 <smartboyhw> Nicely:)
15:21:55 <smartboyhw> valorie, which I did
15:21:57 <smartboyhw> LOL
15:21:58 <valorie> cool
15:22:17 <Darkwing> JontheEchidna, jussi, any other questions?
15:22:24 <jussi> hrm
15:22:32 <smartboyhw> Do ask:)
15:22:39 * smartboyhw is not worried about questions at all
15:22:45 <jussi> Im good
15:22:56 <JontheEchidna> Same, you two asked all of mine :P
15:22:59 <smartboyhw> LOL
15:23:03 * valorie shakes the pom poms
15:23:49 <JontheEchidna> smartboyhw: so you were hoping for shadeslayer and yofel to give you testimonials, correct?
15:23:59 <JontheEchidna> *give testimonials for you
15:24:12 <smartboyhw> JontheEchidna, yep since they are supposed to be here (according to doodle poll)
15:24:27 <smartboyhw> They did give them in my main Ubuntu membership application
15:24:34 <JontheEchidna> ah, good
15:24:44 <smartboyhw> Do you want links for that?
15:24:51 <Darkwing> please
15:25:43 <smartboyhw> Darkwing, JontheEchidna jussi http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/02/20/%23ubuntu-meeting.html (for main membership application)
15:26:16 <smartboyhw> and for Riddell's +1 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/03/10/%23kubuntu-devel.html#t09:56
15:26:34 <yofel> he has indeed been a great help on the testing and packaging side and has been very active on the kubuntu side lately. So I'm all for this membership.
15:26:36 <smartboyhw> Actually that's apachelogger:P
15:26:43 <smartboyhw> Thanks yofel !
15:27:31 <valorie> if I had a vote, you would have it
15:27:37 <smartboyhw> valorie, thanks:)
15:27:40 <Darkwing> Okay, if there are no more questions... there will be a vote.
15:27:45 <Darkwing> #vote
15:27:45 <meetingology> Please vote on:
15:27:45 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
15:27:50 <JontheEchidna> +1
15:28:15 <Darkwing> #voters JontheEchidna Darkwing jussi
15:28:15 <meetingology> Current voters: Darkwing JontheEchidna jussi
15:28:19 <Darkwing> sorry lol
15:28:26 <JontheEchidna> +1
15:28:39 <Darkwing> +1
15:28:41 <jussi> smartboyhw: I have concerns about the length of time you have contributed to kubuntu directly - I admire the enthusiasm, but I want to see "sustained" contributions to *kubuntu*, so for me this time, it is a +0
15:28:45 <jussi> +0
15:28:49 <JontheEchidna> Darkwing: don't be sorry, I couldn't even start the stupid bot :P
15:28:55 * smartboyhw wonders if ubottu is still working
15:28:58 <Darkwing> #endvote
15:28:58 <meetingology> No vote in progress
15:28:59 <jussi> Darkwing: #endvote please
15:29:03 <jussi> haha
15:29:11 <smartboyhw> Stupid bot
15:29:16 <Darkwing> #vote smartboyhw for Kubuntu membership
15:29:16 <meetingology> Please vote on: smartboyhw for Kubuntu membership
15:29:16 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
15:29:20 <Darkwing> +1
15:29:20 <meetingology> +1 received from Darkwing
15:29:21 <jussi> +0
15:29:21 <meetingology> +0 received from jussi
15:29:23 <JontheEchidna> +1
15:29:23 <meetingology> +1 received from JontheEchidna
15:29:30 <smartboyhw> endvote?
15:29:31 <Darkwing> #endvote
15:29:31 <meetingology> Voting ended on: smartboyhw for Kubuntu membership
15:29:31 <meetingology> Votes for:2 Votes against:0 Abstentions:1
15:29:31 <meetingology> Motion carried
15:29:35 <smartboyhw> XD
15:29:37 <smartboyhw> YEAH!
15:29:47 <Darkwing> Welcome to Kubuntu membership smartboyhw
15:29:51 <jussi> you need to wait for riddell or apachelogger
15:29:51 <smartboyhw> Darkwing, thx
15:30:00 <smartboyhw> jussi, for what?
15:30:02 <jussi> as I understand it you need a majority
15:30:10 <JontheEchidna> Riddell gave his +1 earlier in #kubuntu-devel
15:30:13 <jussi> which in our council is 3
15:30:16 <jussi> oh
15:30:17 <jussi> ok
15:30:25 <jussi> congratulations then :=)
15:30:40 <valorie> congratulations, smartboyhw
15:30:43 <smartboyhw> jussi, Darkwing JontheEchidna yofel valorie THX
15:30:43 <Darkwing> Sorry, I didn't mention that. :)
15:30:54 <jussi> yeah, i was unaware
15:30:56 <valorie> I love my Kubuntu Membership
15:30:59 <Darkwing> #topic other business
15:31:01 <valorie> :-)
15:31:19 <Darkwing> Is there any other business that needs to be discussed?
15:31:57 <valorie> is the mumble meeting still happening?
15:31:59 <JontheEchidna> well, we do need a meeting to discuss the recent ... happenings in canonical land, but I think we'd want a more full attendence roster
15:32:16 <smartboyhw> Yep
15:32:17 * yofel has to run, bye
15:32:26 <Darkwing> JontheEchidna: I agree, we need to setup soemthing that all the council will be able to attend for that.
15:32:29 <JontheEchidna> did the mumble meeting get a set date/time?
15:32:39 <Darkwing> thanks to yofel we do have a mumble server running.
15:32:41 <valorie> happenings are still happening, so there isn't a whole lot to discuss yet, I think
15:32:55 <smartboyhw> I don't even know how to play with mumble:P
15:32:58 <Darkwing> and no, I have not seen that email.
15:33:18 <smartboyhw> Can someone give me yofel's server ip?
15:33:25 <Darkwing> Actually, I have to set it up.
15:33:27 <valorie> mumble is installed on my machine, but I haven't had time to test it yet
15:33:30 <yofel> yofel-vz.dyndns.org
15:33:38 <smartboyhw> yofel, thx
15:33:40 <valorie> thanks, yofel
15:33:50 <Darkwing> port: 64738
15:34:13 <Darkwing> I'll be sending out polls for a mumble meeting.
15:34:27 <JontheEchidna> great
15:34:38 <Darkwing> Is there anything else?
15:34:45 <Darkwing> Going once?
15:34:57 <Darkwing> Going Twice?
15:35:07 <JontheEchidna> none here
15:35:12 <Darkwing> Thank you all for coming out.
15:35:17 <Darkwing> #endmeeting