16:01:04 #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team 16:01:04 Meeting started Tue Feb 26 16:01:04 2013 UTC. The chair is hallyn. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 16:01:04 16:01:04 Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 16:01:06 ~รด~ 16:01:07 o/ 16:01:14 #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting 16:01:22 Daviey send call for alpha-2-ish testing 16:01:46 didn't see this? 16:02:06 Ugh. I thought we dropped that. 16:02:15 Daviey: last week it was re-added. should we drop it? 16:02:28 wait for a beta to do CFT? 16:02:34 hallyn: Yes please.. but i will gladly send a reminder to ask people to test 16:02:50 matsurba has kidnly offered to help with dep-8 tests BTW. 16:02:58 kindly* 16:02:59 cool 16:03:08 (i have 2 i'm still supposed tow rite) 16:03:08 \o/ 16:03:10 moving on, 16:03:11 jamespage to milesone documentation updates [carryover] 16:03:47 hallyn, I need to refresh my memory as to what that means 16:04:07 but please carryover for the time being 16:04:08 jamespage: i think it meant going through blueprints looking for doc updates, and adding milestones to them? 16:04:12 ok 16:04:15 hallyn, yeah - I think so 16:04:19 * hallyn jamespage to milesone documentation updates [carryover] 16:04:28 jamespage: though it was in the context of server guide, so not sure 16:04:34 jamespage discuss QA representation at Server TeamMeeting 16:04:55 yes - hggdh is here today and plars will be attending from now onwards... 16:04:58 hallyn: I'll be taking that over 16:05:17 plars, welcome! 16:05:28 cool, so i'll update that in the server meeting knowledgebase page 16:05:35 and I am disconnecting from representing QA :-) 16:05:38 #action serge update server meeting docs to reflect palrs representing qa 16:05:38 * meetingology serge update server meeting docs to reflect palrs representing qa 16:05:55 hggdh: :( 16:06:00 s/palrs/plars 16:06:00 plars: welcome :) 16:06:13 thanks! 16:06:14 plars: sorry, fingers cold, hard typing 16:06:17 yes hggdh :-( 16:06:21 but welcome plars :-) 16:06:21 ok moving on, 16:06:23 #topic Raring Development 16:06:41 Release Tracking Bug Tasks - http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-r-tracking-bug-tasks.html#server 16:06:54 jamespage: Daviey: one of you want to take th is, or should i go over them? 16:07:11 well i'll start, 16:07:12 bug 1092715 16:07:14 bug 1092715 in qemu-kvm (Ubuntu Raring) "udevadm trigger --action=change not working in quantal and raring" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1092715 16:07:24 the kvm bug *should* be worked around now, 16:07:30 jamespage: can you confirm that? 16:07:35 hallyn, I'll check 16:07:38 or... is that only in 1.4.0 (which is still pending my pushing) 16:07:42 jamespage: thanks 16:07:54 bug 1044503 16:07:56 bug 1044503 in maas (Ubuntu Raring) "kernel command line is not easily customizable" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1044503 16:08:06 hmm, i thought that was fixed now 16:08:10 smoser: ? 16:08:24 fixed in the project but not the package, looks like 16:08:51 smoser: does bug 901600 not solve bug 1044503 ? 16:08:53 bug 901600 in grub2 (Ubuntu Quantal) "Allow /etc/default/grub overriding via /etc/default/grub.d/" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/901600 16:09:10 i think hally's assesment is correct wrt 1044503. 16:09:16 Oh, duh.. the bug title confused me 16:09:30 so that'll end up in the pkg before long? 16:10:04 will assume so. bug 1064527 - roaksoax ? 16:10:05 i'd hope we'll get something in raring... but most focus on maas has been on backport. 16:10:06 bug 1064527 in maas (Ubuntu Raring) "detect_ipmi needs improvement. detects non-existant device in nested kvm" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1064527 16:10:12 smoser: thx 16:10:47 roaksoax: around? 16:10:54 hallyn: here 16:11:32 any progress on that bug? seems to be stalled since october? 16:11:51 hallyn: well we haven't really found a way to do it.. so there's no progress 16:12:10 ok, thanks... 16:12:19 bug 1073463 16:12:20 bug 1073463 in maas (Ubuntu Raring) "User-configurable files are not installed in /etc" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1073463 16:12:25 not owned by anyone, 16:12:50 anyone want to volunteer to look at it? 16:12:56 i;ll take it 16:13:00 cool, thanks 16:13:17 but I think that bug doesn't belong there 16:13:31 that belongs upstream 16:13:43 ok - you can re-target? 16:13:57 hallyn: yes, I'll catch up with bigjools about it first 16:14:10 great 16:14:11 bug 1122206 16:14:13 bug 1122206 in quantum (Ubuntu Raring) "l3_agent destroys all namespaces on init, even if router_id is set" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1122206 16:14:38 fix released in quantum project, not pkg... 16:14:48 i assume we're jsut waiting - moving on unless someone shouts 16:15:05 bug 1132302 16:15:07 bug 1132302 in drbd8 (Ubuntu Raring) "drbd8-utils are not compatible with kernel 3.8" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1132302 16:15:33 looks like rbasak has that handled :) thanks rbasak 16:15:48 np. Just waiting on the reporter to test, and if it's OK then we can upload 16:15:52 two medium bugs, tempted to skip them, 16:16:08 well there is bug 1100920 whic his fix committed, 16:16:10 bug 1100920 in cloud-init (Ubuntu Raring) "In Ubuntu 12.10, the legacy 'user' cloud-config option is not handled properly" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1100920 16:16:33 and then bug 1113821 - zul or i just needs to fix that in libvirt (same fix as in lxc) 16:16:35 bug 1113821 in libvirt (Ubuntu Raring) "libvirt-bin deletes /etc/dnsmasq.d/libvirt-bin on upgrade" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1113821 16:16:40 oh i own it :) 16:16:49 tsk tsk 16:17:02 ok, moving on, 16:17:07 Blueprints - http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-raring/group/topic-raring-servercloud-overview.html 16:17:22 arosales: Daviey: did you want to say somethin gon blueprints? 16:17:39 Only the usual :) 16:17:52 Make sure they are accurate, we look a little behind where i think we actually *are* 16:18:07 So everybody should check that bluepritns assigned to them are in accurate state 16:18:27 (and talk with elither myself, or jamespage or smoser about defering thing) 16:18:48 Daviey: meaning at this point we should talk to you before deferring anything, 16:18:53 or ping you if we have questions? 16:19:42 yeah.. ideally not just defer things.. disucss with me, or scott or james.. first 16:19:52 ok 16:19:54 moving on, 16:19:56 #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events 16:20:20 anything to mention here? 16:20:24 none come to mind. 16:20:33 #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) 16:20:48 three cheers for hggdh ? 16:21:41 plars: 16:21:47 Hi 16:21:50 hey :) 16:21:57 Just a couple of things 16:22:05 1. LXC failures 16:22:11 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-test-cases/+bug/1130029 16:22:13 Ubuntu bug 1130029 in Ubuntu Test Cases "testcase: test_lxc_api returns error in raring lxc server smoke tests" [High,Confirmed] 16:22:24 hallyn: you seem to have a mp for this at https://code.launchpad.net/~serge-hallyn/ubuntu-test-cases/server-lxc2/+merge/150491 16:22:27 merge proposal is pending to fix that 16:22:31 yup 16:22:43 (though i'm still getting the hang of utah, still testing locally, might have more changes coming) 16:23:14 If someone can get that reviewed and in soon, we'd like to test it out. I was talking to psivaa this morning about it and he thinks there may be other issues lurking once we get past this one 16:23:41 plars: who has the rights to review that? 16:23:48 I'm not as well aware of what's going on with this bug, so if he or you want to discuss what further steps might be needed, that would be useful 16:24:01 hallyn: it seems to be pointed at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server-dev right now 16:24:10 ? 16:24:22 ok will fix that, thanks :) 16:24:34 but as far as merging it, anyone in the https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-test-case-dev group could do it 16:24:46 no here it says lp:ubuntu-test-cases/server 16:25:02 oh you mean reviewer 16:25:04 hallyn: I'm talking about the reviewer 16:25:05 right 16:25:07 i just used the default 16:25:23 ubuntu-server-dev is the default reviewer? 16:25:24 odd 16:25:25 is that something that should be changed in the ubuntu-test-case lp settings? 16:25:32 perhaps 16:25:58 I'll talk to others about it, but since it's a test for lxc, I figured it was something that you wanted reviewed by ubuntu-server-dev 16:25:59 ok thanks we'll straighten the mp out - moving on? 16:26:02 it made sense to me at least 16:26:03 ok 16:26:06 oh i see, ok 16:26:15 only other thing I wanted to raise (and it's minor) is conffile failures 16:26:15 no perhaps ubuntu-lxc 16:26:18 ex. https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Raring/view/Smoke%20Testing/job/raring-upgrade-quantal-server/ARCH=amd64,LTS=non-lts,PROFILE=server-tasks,label=upgrade-test/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/results/obsolete_conffiles.log 16:26:20 not ubuntu-server-dev 16:26:31 These are no longer reported as individual bugs 16:26:44 but we get a good log of them in the test runs that can be referred to 16:27:40 We realize that they are low priority as bugs go, and in some cases they stack up to dozens that would need to be tracked against every daily test run indefinitely. So if you have some cycles and want to clean them up, it would be useful 16:27:53 these are confiles no longer used by cups in raring? 16:28:02 apparently not 16:28:10 or if they are, their location changed 16:28:47 and so they should be handled by the packaging somehow. k. does someone go look at those log pages regularly? 16:29:00 do they get emailed somewhere? 16:29:25 hallyn: not currently, but they always end up in the same place, so they are pretty easy to find 16:29:53 hallyn: the url I pointed to will take you to the lastSuccessfulBuild in jenkins and show you the current obsolete_conffiles log 16:30:09 perhaps that url s hould be added to the server team knowledgebase weekly bug triaging section 16:30:37 the url may be consistent, but if noone is in the habit of looking at it, bugs won't get raised... course you're right about low prio, 16:30:42 hallyn: that sounds reasonable - we were looking for a better way of dealing with these and nobody wanted spam about it, but I don't think it makes sense to ignore them entirely. So just making you aware 16:30:55 ok, thanks 16:31:13 #action serge consider putting the obsolete_conffiles.log url in weekly triaging knowledgebase section 16:31:13 * meetingology serge consider putting the obsolete_conffiles.log url in weekly triaging knowledgebase section 16:31:17 hallyn: the problem with bugs is it got to be quite a lot of overhead - in this case with one or 2 it's not so bad, but in others you're talking 30-40 bugs that have to be updated across each daily test run 16:31:30 ...for something that just gets ignored 16:31:37 sanity kicked in at some point 16:31:44 plars: yup :) 16:31:48 that's all from me 16:31:53 plars: thanks 16:31:56 moving on, 16:31:58 #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) 16:32:06 Hello, I would like to take this opportunity to re-advertise for http://people.canonical.com/~smb/lucid-ec2-ng/ ... I know not very subtly but I am a developer and not a sales guy. :-P Otherwise raring kernel ddebs will be actually usable after next upload (in case anybody actually was wondering why the heck they were so small). 16:32:14 Oh, one other thing: have not run into this myself but it seems 16:32:14 that recent raring kvm/qemu packages are a bit insulted if 16:32:14 post-install does not get /dev/kvm. This might not be the "normal" 16:32:14 case but it is possible to have the kvm package installed and dual 16:32:15 boot between xen and non-xen mode and its also possibleto do a 16:32:17 dist-upgrade in xen dom0 which won't allow for /dev/kvm... 16:32:25 Beside that, any questions? :) 16:32:57 smb, i'm confused about /dev/kvm 16:33:01 smb: the /dev/kvm bit *should* be fixed, please shout at me if you see it again 16:33:08 right. 16:33:17 hallyn, Ah ok, it was a few days ago 16:33:23 hallyn, that is bug 1103022 ? 16:33:24 bug 1103022 in udev (Ubuntu) "70-udev-acl.rules needs to put g+rw on /dev/kvm" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1103022 16:33:34 smoser: no 16:33:43 smoser: it was a bug from my bad fixing of that one 16:33:52 smoser: if /dev/kvm did not exist, getfacl failed, causing postinst to fail 16:33:58 ah. k. 16:34:18 Ah ok, as said it wasn't me and it was probably last week 16:35:02 smb: feb 20 the fix went up 16:35:15 so yeah shout at me if you see it again. thx 16:35:32 hallyn, sure. will do :) 16:35:32 lucid-ec2-ng - i assume the right folks know what that means :) 16:35:45 hallyn, I suppose yes. 16:35:56 thanks, smb. moving on, 16:35:58 #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak) 16:36:08 Nothing new to report. Any questions for me? 16:36:49 sounds like no, moving on, 16:36:54 #topic Open Discussion 16:37:33 anything to discuss? 16:37:35 if not, 16:38:00 hggdh: o/ see you around! 16:38:02 #topic Announce next meeting date and time 16:38:21 Next meeting will be same time, 16:00 UTC on March 5. 16:38:24 thanks all, 16:38:30 #endmeeting