#title #ubuntu-meeting Meeting Meeting started by slangasek at 16:01:09 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-01-23-16.01.log.html . == Meeting summary == *lightning round ''LINK:'' http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=698329 - working on getting sosreport packaged and included into Debian (stokachu, 16:03:50) ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CrossBuilding (doko, 16:19:01) ''LINK:'' https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-r-crash-database (ev, 16:23:59) ''LINK:'' https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-r-updates-from-crash-reports (ev, 16:24:08) ''LINK:'' https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-r-fix-ddebs (ev, 16:24:09) ''LINK:'' https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-r-metrics (ev, 16:24:15) ''LINK:'' https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-r-bucketing-improvements (ev, 16:24:15) ''LINK:'' https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-r-phased-updates (ev, 16:24:16) *Bugs *AOB ''LINK:'' https://code.launchpad.net/~brian-murray/software-center/bug-1095823/+merge/143971 (bdmurray, 16:59:39) Meeting ended at 17:05:21 UTC. == Votes == == Action items == * (none) == People present (lines said) == * slangasek (54) * ev (49) * cjwatson (44) * xnox (38) * ubottu (36) * stgraber (32) * bdmurray (32) * ogra_ (29) * jodh (24) * doko (14) * stokachu (11) * barry (11) * meetingology (3) == Full Log == 16:01:09 #startmeeting 16:01:09 Meeting started Wed Jan 23 16:01:09 2013 UTC. The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 16:01:09 16:01:09 Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 16:01:43 * stgraber waves 16:02:01 [TOPIC] lightning round 16:02:28 $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh ev bdmurray slangasek ogra cjwatson xnox stokachu) 16:02:31 jodh stokachu stgraber bdmurray ogra doko xnox barry slangasek ev cjwatson 16:02:39 * blueprints: 16:02:39 - foundations-r-upstart-stateful-re-exec: DONE 16:02:40 - foundations-r-upstart-roadmap: NOPROGRESS 16:02:40 - foundations-r-arm-ubiquity: NOPROGRESS (btw - who assigned 'implement reboot in the oem-config' to me?) 16:02:43 - foundations-r-upstart-user-session-enhancements: 16:02:46 - Updated spec updates for shutdown and event prefixing. 16:02:49 - Reworked workitems plan. 16:02:52 - Reviewed and merged lp:~stgraber/upstart/upstart-session-socket. 16:02:55 - Reviewed and merged lp:~xnox/upstart/user-log-dir. 16:02:58 - Reviewed lp:~stgraber/upstart/upstart-make-event-bridge-usable. 16:03:02 - Worked on removal of existing sessions code. 16:03:05 - Worked on adding list-sessions. 16:03:08 - Worked on setenv+getenv branch. 16:03:11 * upstart 16:03:15 - Tweaked lp:~jamesodhunt/upstart/bug-881885 after comments from cjwatson. 16:03:18 - Uploaded fix for bug 1096531. 16:03:19 bug 1096531 in upstart "After touch /forcefsck and reboot: Assertion failed in log_clear_unflushed" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1096531 16:03:21 - discussions with kernel team re kernel image 'boot hang' (which 16:03:24 looks to be a conflation of bug 1096531 and a kernel issue 16:03:27 resulting in no console output). 16:03:28 * misc: 16:03:31 - FOSDEM admin. 16:03:34 🁭 16:03:36 hum, "reboot in oem-config" doesn't sound familiar to me 16:03:37 16:03:49 bug 1023069 - Havent had a chance to dig into this one but wanted to know UE has come across this in testing 16:03:50 bug 1078103 - Some of the partners listed are in this meeting, wanted to get some feedback on what we were doing for providing acroread across arch's and distro's. 16:03:50 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=698329 - working on getting sosreport packaged and included into Debian 16:03:50 bug 1023069 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "Packages was corrupt" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1023069 16:03:52 bug 1078103 in acroread (Ubuntu) "Still no acroread for 64 bit precise" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1078103 16:03:52 currently working on this merge: https://merges.ubuntu.com/a/aptitude/REPORT 16:03:53 881885> I approved that modulo conflicts 16:03:54 Debian bug 698329 in wnpp "ITP: sos -- This set of tools is designed to provide information to support organizations" [Wishlist,Open] 16:03:55 (done) 16:04:16 Feature work: 16:04:16 - Upstart (BLUEPRINT: foundations-r-upstart-user-session-enhancements) 16:04:16 - Some more work on the session socket code, now merged upstream. 16:04:16 - Worked a bit on the event bridge to make it work with the session socket and handle pid files properly. 16:04:16 * xnox vaguelly recollects info about it. jodh: it may be related to hostname changes (e.g. reboot to update hostname everywhere) 16:04:19 - Planning the next steps (jobs, packaging, landing). 16:04:22 - Container (BLUEPRINT: servercloud-r-lxc) 16:04:24 - Code reviews. 16:04:27 - Planning 0.9~alpha3. 16:04:29 - Networking (BLUEPRINT: foundations-r-networking) 16:04:32 - Merged isc-dhcp-server and fixed a few bugs in the process (bug 1071928, bug 1088682 and bug 930962) 16:04:35 - Merged resolvconf and fixed a few bugs in the process (bug 1085756 and bug 1085862) 16:04:36 bug 1071928 in isc-dhcp (Ubuntu Quantal) "isc-dhcp-server-ldap (4.2.4-1ubuntu10.1) is not capable of ldap" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1071928 16:04:38 - Prepared experimental version of isc-dhcp-server with Infiniband support, waiting for test results before pushing to the archive. 16:04:41 bug 1088682 in isc-dhcp (Ubuntu Quantal) "dhclient does not register hostname to dynamic DNS (AD)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1088682 16:04:41 Other work: 16:04:42 bug 930962 in isc-dhcp (Ubuntu) "dhcp3-server reports many bad udp checksums to syslog using virtio NIC" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/930962 16:04:43 bug 1085756 in resolvconf (Ubuntu) "/etc/ppp/ip-up.d/000resolvconf doesn't check if envvar USEPEERDNS is set" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1085756 16:04:43 - Installer 16:04:44 bug 1085862 in resolvconf (Ubuntu) "#DEBHELPER# token is in the wrong place, and other resolvconf postinst nits" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1085862 16:04:46 - SRUed fix for casper bug 984276 16:04:47 bug 984276 in casper (Ubuntu Precise) "installing casper on a non live system causes update-initramfs to fail" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/984276 16:04:48 - Other 16:04:51 - Helped debug some qemu/libvirt interactions (bug 1102487) 16:04:52 bug 1102487 in libvirt (Ubuntu) "VM won't boot after recent qemu upgrade" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1102487 16:04:53 - Patch pilot on Monday 16:04:56 TODO: 16:04:58 - Follow-up on state of the lxc and libseccomp MIRs. 16:05:01 - Try to finish any LXC feature work for this cycle (2 items left). 16:05:03 - Prepare some upstart user session debs with all our patches and the initial Xsession scripts and upstart jobs. 16:05:06 - Start the work on (BLUEPRINT: foundations-r-improving-dist-upgrades). 16:05:09 (DONE) 16:05:21 stokachu: 1023069> I think that should have been a new bug rather than dogpiling on an existing one, but regardless: please get the affected user to upload a full installer syslog (they can extract it by going back to the main menu and selecting "save debug logs", or by running 'anna-install openssh-client-udeb' from a shell and using scp) 16:05:35 * blueprints 16:06:02 foundations-r-phased-update: I'm working on parts of this 16:06:03 cjwatson: ok would you prefer a new bug ? ill re-expire this one and create a new one with that info 16:06:05 xnox: yes I recall discussions where we decided it would be safest to reboot, but don't remember getting assigned the workitem :) 16:06:07 stokachu: the business about Packages.gz being 20 bytes (i.e. gzip of an empty file) is likely a red herring since that's probably as intended on a CD 16:06:13 stokachu: nah, might as well continue with this now 16:06:17 stokachu: just for the next time :) 16:06:22 foundations-r-improving-dist-upgrades: no progress 16:06:35 cjwatson: sure thing ill make sure support knows as well not to piggy back off stuff like that 16:06:41 foundations-r-crash-database: I'm working on a team view for errors.ubuntu.com 16:06:53 foundations-r-sru-queue-velocity: no progress 16:07:01 other: 16:07:09 submitted and merged a merge proposal for the subscriber packages view on errors 16:07:12 reported bug 1103156 regarding most_common_problems.js and user parameter 16:07:14 bug 1103156 in Errors "not possible to use user parameter on front page of errors" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1103156 16:07:15 stokachu: Yeah, sometimes it makes sense but more often than not it doesn't 16:07:15 posted on blog regarding source package searching on errors.ubuntu.com 16:07:18 discovered that the Launchpad API does not serve ETags with collections thereby making it harder to cache them 16:07:21 stokachu: bug #1023069> xnox's reply seems definitive, this should only happen if there's a network problem? 16:07:21 research into update-manager phased updates support in Q 16:07:22 bug 1023069 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "Packages was corrupt" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1023069 16:07:23 investigation into lsb-release crash - bug 1094218 16:07:24 bug 1094218 in lsb (Ubuntu) "lsb_release crashed with IOError in getstatusoutput(): [Errno 10] No child processes" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1094218 16:07:26 investigation into bug 1096022 and upgrade test failing 16:07:27 bug 1096022 in update-manager (Ubuntu) ""E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks" during lucid->precise universe upgrade of amd64" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1096022 16:07:28 investigation into wubi bug 1093819 16:07:29 bug 1093819 in Wubi "Wubi installed 12.10 amd64 without configuring i386" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1093819 16:07:30 verified P SRU of autofs5 - bug 488696 16:07:30 had a holiday 16:07:31 bug 488696 in autofs5 (Ubuntu Precise) "syntax error in nsswitch config near [ syntax error ]" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/488696 16:07:32 uploaded apport fix for bug 1100198 16:07:33 bug 1100198 in apport (Ubuntu) "source_linux.py logic fails to detect 3.8.0-0-generic as an Ubuntu kernel" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1100198 16:07:40 ⁂ done 16:07:47 slangasek: *should* - worth a double-check though if it's affecting a customer 16:07:52 done: 16:07:53 * added preseed.cfg support to nexus7 images 16:07:53 * added shell script that makes auto-rotation of the nexus7 work 16:07:53 * fixed various gsettings issues 16:07:53 * updated onboard settings on the nexus7 for new features (proper docking support) 16:07:53 * various discussions about nexus7 work 16:07:55 * started the weekly nexus7 status meeting on fridays again 16:07:57 * hunting down IS to somehow get an arm livefs builder again 16:07:59 todo: 16:08:01 * port nx7 images to xz compression (blocked on missing livefs builder) 16:08:03 * discuss livefs builder situation with infinity (carried over from last week, blocked on builder) 16:08:05 * fix plymouth vs console-setup racing somehow (likely needs cjwatson advice) to allow initrd-less booting 16:08:08 * port update-notifier to pkexec to fix onboard vs gksu issues 16:08:10 * add lux script for making the ambient light sensor work on the nexus7 16:08:12 .. 16:08:28 * blueprint cross building: should be done (there wasn't much in the blueprint i 16:08:28 tself) 16:08:28 * fixed the armhf and armel cross compilers (still need the armel one, because d 16:08:28 pkg-cross can't handle arm biarch, and getting rid of dpkg-cross would require m 16:08:28 ore work) 16:08:29 likely needs cjwatson staring at a wall for an hour trying to remember ... 16:08:29 * looking at python3 and twisted 16:08:31 * started backporting python3 cross build patches to 2.7. 16:08:33 * updated GCC to the Linaro 2013-01 release. 16:08:35 * updated my notebook to raring, now having the fan constantly running :-( 16:08:37 (done) 16:09:19 cjwatson, you mean the console-setup stuff ? 16:09:41 heh 16:09:45 foundations-r-upstart-user-session-enhancements: 16:09:45 * implement review comments in the lp:~xnox/upstart/user-log-dir 16:09:46 Approved and merged now. 16:09:46 foundations-r-arm-usb-creator-fastboot-support: 16:09:46 * Started UI and backend implementation. Usb-creator can auto-launch 16:09:48 upon plugging in a nexus7 device (with a hack), nexus7 devices 16:09:49 stokachu: wrt bug #1078103, I thought Adobe was no longer giving us distribution rights in any event 16:09:50 appear. It doesn't yet successfully flash nexus7. Hoping to have a PPA 16:09:51 bug 1078103 in acroread (Ubuntu) "Still no acroread for 64 bit precise" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1078103 16:09:52 spec, setup secure-boot VM (with OVMF) to verify/fix Secure Boot 16:09:56 support in usb-creator. 16:09:58 ubiquity: 16:10:00 * Working on a couple preseeding bugs for QA (nfs & oem-config preseeds) 16:10:02 TODO: 16:10:04 * lvm2 merge to continue shipping clvm 16:10:06 * mdadm merge from experimental to bring in improved isms support. 16:10:08 .. 16:10:31 ogra_: yeah 16:10:45 short week due to usa holiday. bug 1100408. bug 1077087. bug 1077092. bug 1102715. bug 1102621. reviewed lp:~mitya57/ubuntu/raring/python3-defaults/resync will approve/upload unless doko objects. uploaded python3-whoosh to ppa for testing as xapian replacement. 16:10:50 bug 1100408 in software-center (Ubuntu) "Update Depends for new oneconf packaging" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1100408 16:10:51 foundations-r-python3-oauth: 2 bugs fix committed; all other bugs in progress with branches having mps awaiting review (with a couple waiting for imminent new upstream release). 16:10:52 bug 1077087 in Ubuntu Single Sign On Client "Switch from python-oauth to python-oauthlib" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1077087 16:10:53 bug 1077092 in Ubuntu One storage protocol "Switch from python-oauth to python-oauthlib" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1077092 16:10:55 bug 1102715 in OneConf "oneconf-query crashed with ImportError in /usr/bin/oneconf-query: No module named oneconf.version" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1102715 16:10:56 bug 1102621 in Twisted Buildbot Configuration "xvfb failed to start" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1102621 16:10:58 foundations-r-python-versions: updated blueprint work items. 16:11:04 foundations-r-python33: see above merge proposal for last remaining TODO. 16:11:06 done 16:11:29 slangasek: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acroread/9.5.1-1precise1/+build/3404003 seems to part of the problem. 16:12:08 stokachu: it failed to build for amd64 in precise, which may be something we should fix or not. 16:13:07 xnox: do we have a general consensus on if we are going to continue building acroread? 16:13:32 presumably we need to find out if we have continued permission to redistribute before a consensus from this team means anything 16:13:47 do i ask legal about that? 16:15:42 ogra_: "Somehow get an arm livefs builder again" - do we not currently have one? 16:15:53 I've lost track of who's responsible for partner agreements; presumably somebody with OEM in their title 16:16:14 slangasek, not since four days, nope 16:16:21 ogra_: is there an RT for this? 16:16:26 ogra_: (please cc: me to it) 16:16:31 slangasek, seems there is some kind of machine moving going on in the DC 16:16:46 or actually maybe ISV 16:16:51 no, RT, i am constantly in #is though, in conversation with ChrisS 16:17:21 he said there would be hope that everything is connected up again later today 16:18:24 doko: wrt cross-compilation, the main deliverable that we need here is high-level documentation in wiki.ubuntu.com telling people how to use everything; does that exist already? 16:18:51 slangasek: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CrossBuilding shouldn't be too bad now 16:19:01 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CrossBuilding 16:19:33 xnox: mdadm> did you see my bug assignment to you wrt mdadm's degraded mode initramfs handling? 16:19:34 right, maybe I should extend this how to use it with just dpkg-buildpackage 16:20:06 stokachu: My best guess after some trawling through the directory and the wiki would be to try David Duffey 16:20:46 cjwatson: ok thanks ill shoot him an email and get some confirmation on that 16:21:00 slangasek: now, i did. 16:21:34 ogra_: please open an RT for this issue (and in general, for issues like this that are taking longer than they should) so that IS knows it's a priority - not just the person you're talking with in #is at the time 16:21:55 k 16:21:58 stokachu: please cc: me on your mail to dduffey 16:22:07 slangasek: rgr that 16:22:12 slangasek: will include it in the upcomming upload. 16:22:14 ta 16:22:16 * short week, US holiday this Monday 16:22:17 * pulled into a number of meetings last week at the client sprint 16:22:17 * ongoing discussions with folks around Kylin 16:22:17 * tried to reproduce bug #1094218 (and failed), though there is strong confirmation it's specific to TeamViewer 16:22:19 bug 1094218 in lsb (Ubuntu) "lsb_release crashed with IOError in getstatusoutput(): [Errno 10] No child processes" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1094218 16:22:20 * fielding various mountall, plymouth bug reports; mountall once again is too fast (bug #1103047) 16:22:20 bug 1103047 in mountall (Ubuntu) "mountall causes automatic mounting of gluster shares to fail" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1103047 16:22:23 * head-scratching over bug #1100247 16:22:24 bug 1100247 in shim (Ubuntu Raring) "Unable to install Ubuntu on laptop without enabling Legacy mode" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1100247 16:22:25 * double dose of SRU processing last week, as the queue is rather long 16:22:28 * FOSDEM planning 16:22:30 * TODO this week: 16:22:33 * hunt down gnu-efi regression affecting shim 16:22:35 * systemd packaging 16:22:38 * BP status: 16:22:40 * foundations-r-secure-boot: in progress er the above 16:22:43 * foundations-r-improve-cross-compilation: stalled; will look at this next month 16:22:46 * foundations-r-opt-installation: no progress to report; will start on this next month 16:22:49 (done) 16:22:51 bdmurray: did you have any more luck reproducing bug #1094218 than I did? 16:22:55 I'm not seeing anything in teamviewer that explains why this would break 16:23:10 Week of January 17th 16:23:11 - Continued work on the prodstack error tracker deployment. 16:23:11 - I've now got it deployed and working end-to-end in Amazon EC2, including 16:23:11 using S3 to store core dumps. \o/ 16:23:11 - Provided set up instructions in the RT and at 16:23:11 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ErrorTracker/Deployment#Prodstack 16:23:12 - Started looking into getting the existing Nagios hooks implemented. 16:23:31 slangasek: no, I'm working on reproducing that dist upgrade bug 16:23:36 ok 16:23:44 - Finishing up my apport branch to group system-internal error reports with the 16:23:44 next desktop application error report. Just need to fix a few more failing 16:23:44 tests (that expect lone system reports to produce a UI) and it will be ready 16:23:44 for review. 16:23:44 - Meeting with Andy and Stefan to discuss how we can better handle error 16:23:44 reports from the kernel. 16:23:45 - They're going to write an in-kernel replacement for kerneloops. 16:23:50 - We'll create something similar to the failed to suspend mechanism for 16:23:50 reporting when the system has hard locked, somewhat replacing the 16:23:51 /var/crash/vmcore approach. 16:23:51 - Started investigating how we can translate Breakpad-generated error reports 16:23:51 into Apport reports: 16:23:51 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ErrorTracker/BreakpadApplicationSupport 16:23:51 - Code review. 16:23:59 Blueprints: 16:23:59 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-r-crash-database 16:24:00 - Work with the kernel team now done, with the remaining tasks handed over to them. 16:24:00 - Errors from Debconf dialogs and graphical application hangs still sitting in 16:24:00 the nearly-done state, waiting for me to find enough time to finish them off. 16:24:00 - Will likely defer the Hadoop-dependent "What's interesting about this 16:24:00 problem?" task, as IS refuses to touch my Hadoop deployment instructions 16:24:00 until we get production on prodstack, thus fixing the retracer scaling 16:24:01 problem. 16:24:08 - Will work on the automatic error reporting mechanism soon, as it's required 16:24:08 for a number of work items (juju, landscape, etc). 16:24:08 - I'll be completing all the nagios tasks as I implement that piece of the 16:24:08 prodstack deployment. 16:24:08 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-r-updates-from-crash-reports 16:24:09 - Will hold off on this until the tail-end of the cycle, time permitting. 16:24:09 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-r-fix-ddebs 16:24:09 - Blocked on infinity (?) teaching the librarian to publish ddebs. 16:24:15 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-r-metrics 16:24:15 - Deferred. 16:24:15 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-r-bucketing-improvements 16:24:15 - Plan in place. I need to run this by the security team as there are 16:24:15 outstanding questions as to how we retain enough privileges to drop to the 16:24:15 user experiencing the error to run the additional hooks. 16:24:16 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-r-phased-updates 16:24:16 - Brian is mostly handling this. 16:24:20 (done) 16:24:33 Feature progress this week: 16:24:34 foundations-r-finish-archive-reorg: debmirror patch accepted upstream. Launchpad patch to add Package-Set fields in progress. Discussed detailed requirements with security team (earlier this year). Next step: discuss detailed requirements for Supported field with PES/GSS/etc. 16:24:39 foundations-r-grub-integration-testing: Got hold of upstream's megatest scripts, which may come in handy here. 16:24:42 foundations-r-phased-updates: Launchpad database patch deployed. Launchpad code patch pushed and awaiting review. 16:24:45 foundations-r-secure-boot: Sufficiently done for 12.04.2. Next step: look into using -signed preferentially, for 13.04 and 12.04.3. 16:24:49 foundations-r-upload-intermediary: Still figuring out how to hook in autopkgtest. This didn't quite make it to the top of my list this week, but I live in hope. 16:24:52 12.04.2: 16:24:54 Significant progress on oversizedness. Should be fine as soon as I figure out why my attempt at language pack removal apparently didn't stick (just asked webops to tweak apt preferences). 16:24:58 Almost everything else looks good; just sorting out the last few necessary bug-fixes. 16:25:01 Installer: 16:25:04 Figured out bug 1065281 (I think). Awaiting confirmation before I finish the backports for 12.04.2. 16:25:07 bug 1065281 in partman-efi (Ubuntu Quantal) "Installer crashed when trying to partition 4k/4k sector hard disks" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1065281 16:25:07 Refactored automatic mode a bit. 16:25:10 Committed fix for bug 1057485 for 12.04.2. 16:25:11 bug 1057485 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Precise) "ubiquity-kde codepage problem in Timezone map (Timezone.py)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1057485 16:25:12 GRUB: 16:25:15 Reduced delta against Debian a bit. 16:25:17 Continued back-burner work on nested function removal. 16:25:20 Sorted out problems with containers a bit more comprehensively (bug 1060404). 16:25:21 bug 1060404 in lxc (Ubuntu Precise) "update-grub runs and fails in containers" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1060404 16:25:23 Archive admin / Launchpad: 16:25:25 Got fed up with developers having to use debuild -v when stacking multiple SRUs; fixed sru-report to handle this, and filed bug 1102870 for the remaining Launchpad work. I hope to get the latter fixed next week. 16:25:26 bug 1102870 in Launchpad itself "Copies use naïve ancestry check to calculate previous version for notifications and bug closures" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1102870 16:25:29 Trying to narrow down https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2013-January/036374.html. 16:25:32 On holiday tomorrow morning and all of Friday. 16:25:35 .. 16:26:41 any more questions over the above? 16:27:26 [TOPIC] Bugs 16:28:15 bdmurray: anything new popping up? 16:29:26 slangasek: bug 1102499 but I see it was assigned already 16:29:28 bug 1102499 in mdadm (Ubuntu) "Cannot see 'bootdegraded' question" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1102499 16:29:55 bug 1101326 is that for us or the desktop team? 16:29:56 bug 1101326 in consolekit (Ubuntu) "console-kit-daemon appears to consume 2GB of memory" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1101326 16:32:22 bdmurray: we can ask seb128 if he has someone who can look at consolekit; otherwise ours 16:32:56 slangasek: is that we as in me? 16:34:08 I've been reviewing some of our past bugs and bug 1013681 could still use fixing. 16:34:10 bug 1013681 in apt (Ubuntu Quantal) "make apt-key net-update secure" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1013681 16:34:26 bdmurray: we as in you> yes please :) 16:34:27 cjwatson: you'd mentioned a server side change... 16:35:21 I really hope that the eglibc update still will get into 12.04.2 (can't see infinity online here) 16:36:56 Oh, err, I'd sort of lost track of that one 16:37:47 IIRC it's a static file to be put somewhere? If somebody provides the file and tells me where to install it ... 16:38:18 Oh, you can't, it's a signed file. Instructions for doing so, then 16:38:27 Happy to be a substitute webop for this purpose ;) 16:42:45 slangasek: and regarding bug 1094218 did we want to get it assigned? It is still the #1 error on errors.ubuntu.com. (Oh, the vast majority of the reports are from 12.04) 16:42:47 bug 1094218 in lsb (Ubuntu) "lsb_release crashed with IOError in getstatusoutput(): [Errno 10] No child processes" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1094218 16:43:15 bdmurray: well, I haven't been able to reproduce it, and it appears to be caused by a third-party deb even if we can't figure out how 16:43:25 bdmurray: so it's not at the top of the priority list IMHO 16:44:20 nonsense, all problems should be prioritised based on their rank on errors.ubuntu.com! ;) 16:44:29 heh 16:44:39 despite being caused by a third-party deb, I don't expect lsb_release to ever crash like that. 16:44:51 I don't either, and I also can't /get/ it to crash like that 16:44:56 it should return an error exit code and possibly some output. 16:45:32 as cjwatson noted last week, it looks like something has reaped our child for us, which doesn't make sense 16:47:15 I've actually introduced a bug like that in python3-lxc once as I had a generic child reaper in the python module, so anything import python3-lxc was getting their child reaped for them and trickering similar errors 16:48:11 stgraber: well, teamviewer doesn't install any python code at all so shouldn't be the cause of generic child reapers... if you want to take a look, though, feel free 16:48:32 bdmurray: anything else? 16:48:39 bug 869825 16:48:42 bug 869825 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "French (Switzerland) is no longer a layout choice in the installer" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/869825 16:49:34 wontfix> stgraber lives in Canada now 16:49:41 hahaha 16:49:43 that's actually wrong, fr_CH is in there, just not where you'd think it'd be, it's under German (Switzerland) IIRC 16:49:54 * slangasek blinks 16:50:06 right it says that in the description 16:50:17 ' Swiss-french people now have to go to "German (Switzerland)" and then choose Switzerland French layout in the right pane.' 16:53:09 well, we took keyboard layouts from debian.... sure we can have an ubuntu patch for this. 16:54:02 is this straightforward to fix? 16:54:30 it's probably straightforward to fix once we find where the bug is and console-setup usually gives me headaches :) 16:54:58 * ogra_ joins the console-setup whining 16:55:02 reading wikipedia the only difference between switzerland german/french/italian/romanish/liechtenstein/luxembourg keyboard layout is which accented characters get the preferencial access without dead keys. 16:55:04 *whine* 16:55:51 so i'm pretty sure that any swiss computer user can use any swiss keyboard ;-) 16:55:59 layout. 16:56:09 xnox: yep, the physical layout is identical between fr_CH and de_CH, it's just that you get direct é and à with the french layout and ö and ü with the german layout 16:56:41 * xnox ponders if we can display same layout in multiple categories.... 16:56:42 xnox: well, they'll be a bit annoyed having to press shift a lot more often than usual, but yeah, it won't prevent them from installing and changing the layout later 16:57:05 I question whether that's in console-setup 16:57:13 so does anyone want to take this bug? 16:57:19 Because most of the keyboard layout/variant categorisation stuff comes more directly from xkb-data 16:57:31 (well, possibly it might involve a console-setup rebuild) 16:57:48 slangasek: I'll take it and hate myself 16:58:05 done ;) 16:58:09 [TOPIC] AOB 16:58:10 anything else? 16:58:37 who is the right person to review a software-center merge proposal? 16:58:52 mterry?! 16:58:56 or mvo.... 16:59:09 depends which bits of software center. 16:59:13 bdmurray: I'd have said mvo but that's probably not true anymore, hold on a sec, I'll find a good fallback :) 16:59:16 probably not mvo ;) 16:59:20 alsina 16:59:22 and depends if you can catch mvo online 16:59:24 (i think) 16:59:33 bdmurray: which merge proposal? 16:59:39 https://code.launchpad.net/~brian-murray/software-center/bug-1095823/+merge/143971 17:00:00 (e.g. if it's not the black magic core it may be easier ) 17:00:22 nope its kind of silly 17:00:50 bdmurray: bah, my usual fallback apparently no longer works for Canonical either ;) 17:01:18 well, but that change looks rather easy :) 17:01:32 bdmurray: infinity is in the correct team membership, he can +1 it, and then tarmac should auto land the patch =) 17:01:44 barry, looks like there some extra changes, but I can't see these being committed to debian 17:01:53 barry: and you can as well =))) 17:02:18 after all you can just trust smagoun and blame him afterwards if it failed 17:02:22 * xnox thinks he got lp permissions wrong. 17:02:34 xnox: true. i can review it but i don't feel comfortable committing it. roberto alsina is leading the project now i think 17:02:52 barry: it's a one line typo fix. 17:02:58 xnox: oh 17:03:08 2 characters even 17:03:18 -OEM_CHANNEL_DESCRIPTOR = "/var/lib/ubuntu-dist-channel" 17:03:18 +OEM_CHANNEL_DESCRIPTOR = "/var/lib/ubuntu_dist_channel" 17:03:32 barry: it's OEM priority. we should be landing it and sru'ing it. 17:03:58 * xnox likes the humble "Ubuntu One Control Tower" team name. 17:05:05 xnox, bdmurray approved. i have to skip out for an errand at lunch (soon as this meeting's over), but ping me and i'll land it when i get back if no one else does 17:05:21 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)