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16:04:00 <Daviey> #TOPIC Review ACTION points from previous meeting
16:04:07 <Daviey> smoser follow up on bug 1028453
16:04:09 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1028453 in livecd-rootfs (Ubuntu) "Quantal Ubuntu Server minimal install oversized" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1028453
16:04:19 <jamespage> fixed
16:04:26 <Daviey> super
16:04:26 <jamespage> \o/
16:04:36 <Daviey> jamespage to look into aligning release team and server team trackign reports
16:04:38 <smoser> woot
16:04:57 <skaet> :)
16:05:17 <Daviey> Mr Page?
16:05:20 <jamespage> still thinking about that one - I think we should probably just use the release team report - but it lacks MIR and other team tracking
16:05:28 <jamespage> c/f
16:05:47 <Daviey> jamespage: OK, i missed this action.  Can we organise an audio chat with interetsed people to gauge outcomes?
16:06:01 <jamespage> sure
16:06:04 <Daviey> #TOPIC Quantal Development
16:06:22 <Daviey> jamespage or smoser, want to take release-bugs.html?
16:06:32 <jamespage> o.
16:06:35 <jamespage> ill do it
16:06:46 <jamespage> http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html
16:07:05 <jamespage> only a few things on this report now.
16:07:15 <jamespage> bug 1024326
16:07:17 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1024326 in horizon (Ubuntu) "node.js is required for access to the dashboard" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1024326
16:07:35 <adam_g> i committed a new fix for that last night. much simpler and cleaner
16:07:58 <adam_g> so, with the next upload it should be fixed. i'd like to find a way to integrate the build steps into package build, tho
16:08:07 <smoser> adam_g, link?
16:08:23 <smoser> ah. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~openstack-ubuntu-testing/horizon/precise-folsom-proposed/revision/103
16:08:52 <zul> hi ho
16:08:58 <Daviey> jamespage: is the breadth of the report accurate, i haven't added anything myself for ages
16:09:14 <jamespage> see action above about release tracking bugs
16:09:36 <jamespage> hallyn: bug 1040033
16:09:37 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1040033 in qemu-kvm (Ubuntu Quantal) "Fresh VM installs via preseeded oneiric isos sometimes fail with filesystem issues" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1040033
16:10:18 <jamespage> ah - I see last comment says HEAD fixes stuff - guess you just need to narrow things down
16:10:27 <jamespage> and from http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-tracking-bug-tasks.html
16:11:19 <jamespage> ivoks has a really old bug assigned - bug 671065
16:11:20 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 671065 in dovecot (Ubuntu Quantal) "deliver broken because dovecot.conf uses !include_try" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/671065
16:11:41 <jamespage> hmm - not in channel - I'll followup - need to pester him for test cases anyway
16:12:20 <jamespage> we have a load of undecided bugs for maas and juju  - which at least need a priority setting.
16:12:58 <jamespage> my recommendation would be to drop the quantal tasks for the time being; that way the bug stays around - but we are not commiting to fix it for quantal unless we raise the tasks....
16:13:35 <jamespage> smoser, can you and roaksoax review the maas ones - I'll pickup the juju ones with SpamapS
16:13:45 <jamespage> ...
16:13:51 <jamespage> thats be done on release bugs....
16:14:01 <jamespage> of note anyway :-)
16:14:02 <Daviey> super
16:14:12 <Daviey> any extra ones that should be added?
16:14:19 <smoser> jamespage, will do.
16:14:30 <Daviey> ok
16:14:40 <Daviey> smoser: do you want to go through http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/group/topic-quantal-servercloud-overview.html ?
16:14:47 <jimbaker> fwiw, i think we have been doing a good effort on closing out the juju bugs, led by SpamapS
16:15:15 <jamespage> jimbaker, +1 to that - there are just alot hanging around from last cycles MIR review
16:15:36 <smoser> sure. i'll go through.
16:15:50 <smoser> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-qa
16:16:00 <smoser> i'll just hit red ones.
16:16:01 <smoser> jamespage, ?
16:16:27 <jamespage> ?
16:16:39 <smoser> any comment on servercloud-q-opensetack-qa
16:16:41 <arosales> is zul on point for servercloud-q-openstack-qa
16:16:46 <smoser> ah. sorry. zul
16:16:47 <jamespage> yep
16:16:49 <jamespage> :-)
16:16:53 <zul> dah
16:16:55 <smoser> yes. i see that. thakn you arosales
16:17:12 <Daviey> zul is acridness to the WI, but in reality jamespage and adam_g have had a significant influence
16:17:48 <Daviey> err, "according to"*  .. damn dictionary
16:17:54 <zul> i had to look up that word
16:17:59 <smoser> fun... well anyone want to talk to that ?
16:18:00 <smoser> its behind.
16:18:27 <Daviey> primarily, reporting on upsteam gerrit.. pre-merge.. adam_g / jamespage ?
16:19:02 <jamespage> I'll have to defer to adam_g - my involvement this cycle has been mainly doing password resets for zul
16:19:17 <smoser> ok.
16:19:19 <smoser> lets move on.
16:19:30 <smoser> adam_g, zul, please take al ook at that today.
16:19:33 <adam_g> Daviey: i have the majority of htat that work done
16:19:34 <smoser> talk amoungst yourselves.
16:19:46 <adam_g> just need to implement it live on the cluster. was preparing to do that a few weeks ago when i was hijacked with other things
16:20:09 <smoser> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charm-best-practices
16:20:33 <smoser> that seems more SpamapS per this group
16:20:48 <smoser> i belive there is more progress there than shown
16:21:23 <smoser> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-arm-deployment
16:21:37 <smoser> i'll speak for rbasak on that. he has made considerable progress on it.
16:21:46 <smoser> and the work remaining seems to be known
16:22:12 <SpamapS> smoser: I'd have to poll everybody listed there. but in general that effort has been going slower than expected
16:22:36 <smoser> SpamapS, thank you
16:22:52 <smoser> please do try to get it into some sort of more current state (if that includes POSTPONE)
16:22:56 <smoser> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-folsom
16:23:04 <SpamapS> I'll poke a few of them though, I see a coupel WI's that have been half-done for a while
16:23:07 <smoser> zul, you're most of those. ddoes that look reasonable?
16:23:13 * smoser will get my 2 updated on that.
16:23:34 <zul> yeah more of it will be "DONE" as we get cloesr to release
16:23:52 <smoser> i'll poke around, but my feeling is public glance is POSTPONED
16:23:53 <Daviey> zul: when will nova for folsom for example, be marked DONE?
16:24:04 <Daviey> smoser: lets discuss that after
16:24:29 <smoser> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-stable
16:24:40 <smoser> zul?
16:24:53 <zul> ill update the spec
16:25:14 <smoser> gracias
16:25:14 <smoser> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-server-iso-tests-review
16:25:25 <smoser> there are  a bunch of people listed on tasks there, but jamespage name on the item.
16:25:33 <jamespage> smoser, that should catchup this week
16:25:47 <jamespage> I'm gonna pester jibel about upgrade testing.... and ivoks for mail stuff
16:26:10 <smoser> roaksoax, i'm assuming that powernap needs to go to POSTPONED
16:26:40 <smoser> i'll follow up with roaksoax
16:26:41 <smoser> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-bug-triage-review
16:27:14 <Daviey> Ursinha: ^ ?
16:27:16 <smoser> jamespage, ^ you again
16:27:20 <smoser> or Ursinha
16:27:32 <Daviey> James page is all done on that blueprint.
16:27:48 <jamespage> yeah - again I'll followup with Ursinha (I keep forgetting and its my blueprint)
16:27:52 <smoser> k. moving on.
16:28:03 <smoser> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-maas-next-steps
16:28:07 <smoser> roaksoax, ^ ?
16:28:12 <smoser> there is a bunch of work to do there.
16:28:14 <smoser> i'll speak to it.
16:28:46 <smoser> that is "Essential" and will be accomplished to a satisfactory end.
16:29:06 <Daviey> nothing like a satisfactory ending
16:29:12 <smoser> servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy
16:29:15 <roaksoax> smoser: there are a couple bugs need to be addressed and other but currently blocked too due to
16:29:20 <roaksoax> not having quantal support
16:30:03 <smoser> SpamapS, that looks like yours. is there updates there?
16:30:37 <smoser> servercloud-q-openstack-ha https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-ha
16:30:44 <SpamapS> smoser: the two TODO's are still valid, and have to be completed this cycle.
16:30:56 <smoser> SpamapS, thank you.
16:31:09 <smoser> roaksoax, you're next there. ... i'm uguessing that one can stand some updates.
16:31:32 <smoser> servercloud-q-juju-charm-unit-tests https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charm-unit-tests
16:31:32 <Daviey> was,
16:31:36 <Daviey> "juju charms for DRBD (adam_g says it is impossible, SpampS seems it is possible): TODO" resolved?
16:31:51 <zul> i think we need a steel cage for that one
16:31:52 <SpamapS> we never have worked on it
16:32:02 <SpamapS> but yeah I still believe its possible :)
16:32:03 <adam_g> hehe
16:32:09 <adam_g> SpamapS: go for it!
16:32:17 <roaksoax> smoser: since I have been concentrated on maas the last two weeks I couldn't really advance any work on the HA stuff. But there are updates that need to be considered and will catch up with zul /adam_g as it relates to ha specific stuff for openstack
16:32:18 <Daviey> smoser: do you have capacity to prove us all wrong?
16:32:27 <smoser> roaksoax, gracias.
16:32:55 <smoser> i want no part of the SpamapS adam_g steel cage
16:32:55 <SpamapS> drbd seems so old fashioned.. don't people just do RAID1 across volumes these days?
16:33:26 <smoser> alright. i think that is enough there.
16:33:27 <adam_g> drbd is basically distributed raid1
16:33:32 * SpamapS would promise not to use his roundhouse
16:33:47 <smoser> please do take a bit of time today and make sure your blueprints represent their actual state.
16:34:02 <smoser> and remember that we're past beta1, and there is not much time remaining.
16:34:27 <smoser> and miles to go before i sleep.
16:34:35 <smoser> lets move on.
16:34:43 <Daviey> thank you Mr Moser.
16:34:48 <Daviey> #TOPIC Ubuntu Server Team Events
16:34:50 <smoser> you are most welcome.
16:35:06 <Daviey> CFP Submissions: SoCal Linux Expo (Deadline: Dec. 10) http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/cfp
16:35:24 <Daviey> Anyone else travelling soon?
16:35:53 <Daviey> OpenStack Conference, San Diego, Oct 15-18, 2012 .. number of us going.
16:36:27 <Daviey> UDS, Copenhagen, Denmark , 29th Oct – 1st Nov 2012
16:36:34 <Daviey> Anything else?
16:36:45 <Daviey> #TOPIC Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)
16:37:20 <Daviey> Great to see we got Beta-1 out in reasonable shape, what is the plans between now and the next milestone for enrichment in testing?
16:37:57 <Daviey> Nobody from QA here?
16:38:06 <arosales> btw, for events Surge is also coming up on Sept 27, and jimbaker is giving  a Big Data meetup preso on Sept 19.
16:38:14 <Daviey> *sigh*
16:39:02 <Daviey> Okay, lets move frustratedly on.
16:39:12 <Daviey> [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)
16:39:45 <Daviey> and no smb.
16:39:56 <Daviey> ogasawara: anyone from kernel here?
16:41:10 <Daviey> marvellous
16:41:19 <Daviey> [TOPiC] Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)
16:41:26 <arosales> rbask is on holiday
16:41:26 <jamespage> rbasak on holiday
16:41:40 <Daviey> Please, can someone cover this, before i shoot myself?
16:41:45 <arosales> I think he synced up with smoser though
16:41:51 <Daviey> smoser: ^?
16:42:02 <arosales> we are working on adding in ARM support int MAAS
16:42:06 <arosales> that is the main effort
16:42:17 <smoser> sure...
16:42:29 <Daviey> anything else of note
16:42:30 <Daviey> ?
16:42:37 <smoser> rbasak has made considerable and impressive progresses on maas and arm.
16:42:49 <Daviey> \o/
16:43:01 <smoser> the ephemeral images were giving him pai, but he has hacked his way around that, and my reproduction of that has lead me to chasing some other issues in those images.
16:43:03 <Daviey> smoser: does it work with panda?
16:43:17 <smoser> bug 1031065
16:43:19 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1031065 in cloud-init (Ubuntu) "cloud-init-nonet runs 'start networking' explicitly" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031065
16:43:22 <smoser> i do not believe it works with panda
16:43:27 <Daviey> what about qemu-system-arm-highbank ?
16:43:49 <smoser> also, of interesting work there, dannf reportably can make things work with qemu-system-arm
16:44:04 <Daviey> qemu-system-arm -M highbank*
16:44:07 <smoser> https://launchpad.net/~dannf/+archive/qemu-highbank/+packages
16:44:26 <smoser> ping him for more info there.
16:44:27 <Daviey> that should be good in the archive now
16:44:46 <Daviey> The blocker for me, was a devicetree which is now fixed
16:44:50 <smoser> last i spoke to him on it, he had a kernel that would boot, but the latest highbank kernel for precise would not.
16:45:15 <Daviey> okay, thanks smoser
16:45:16 <smoser> but yeah, haivng some sort of qemu functional would be huge.
16:45:21 <Daviey> moving on?
16:45:32 <Daviey> #TOPIC Open Discussion
16:45:35 <ogra_> omap works pretty well
16:45:35 <smoser> and ideally that can be booted with cloud images and cloud-localds
16:45:58 <ogra_> (but limited to 512M indeed)
16:46:16 <Daviey> ogra_: might want to grab you to help polish this stuff :)
16:46:23 <ogra_> feel free
16:46:42 <Daviey> ogra_: Would like to do a PXE boot via system-arm.. which might be interesting
16:46:49 <SpamapS> Dunno if this was brought up in the bugs discussion, but Juju is a bit broken in quantal right now
16:47:16 <Daviey> SpamapS: oh?
16:47:20 <SpamapS> There's a regression in python that hit yesterday, bug 1048710
16:47:22 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1048710 in python3.2 (Ubuntu) "Regression in argparse for Python 2.7, 3.2 and 3.3" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1048710
16:47:23 <SpamapS> Barry Warsaw is on it
16:47:31 <ogra_> Daviey, qemu can boot our images out of the box (including the whole bootloader bits) so that shouldnt be any prob
16:47:52 <SpamapS> Its pretty serious as it breaks the argparsing for all of juju's cli utilities
16:48:09 <Daviey> Joy
16:48:21 * Daviey ads it to tracking
16:48:21 <SpamapS> anyway, I'm sure it will be resolved soon, but just a heads up that you may need to downgrade python2.7 if you want to have a working juju on quantal
16:48:50 <SpamapS> Daviey: in case that bug does not fix it, there's also a juju bug, bug #1048864 , that is worth tracking
16:48:52 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1048864 in juju (Ubuntu Quantal) "Latest python in quantal breaks juju test suite" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1048864
16:49:02 <Daviey> SpamapS: juju/precise archive + jitsu... Is it possible?
16:49:07 <SpamapS> Daviey: it may end up being duped to 1048710 .. we'll see
16:49:21 <jamespage> SpamapS, thats on the release bugs list (both of them)
16:49:26 <SpamapS> Daviey: we can put juju-jitsu in backports
16:49:40 <SpamapS> jamespage: right, because I targetted at quantal
16:49:41 <Daviey> SpamapS: but does it work?
16:49:52 <SpamapS> Daviey: It should. popey was looking at it.
16:50:02 <Daviey> SpamapS: he pinged me otherwise this morning :(
16:50:18 <SpamapS> Daviey: bummer. Ok, we'll have to dive into that
16:50:24 <Daviey> thanks
16:50:31 <Daviey> Anything else?
16:51:06 <SpamapS> Daviey: wild thing, I think you move me.
16:51:23 <Daviey> #TOPIC Announce next meeting date and time
16:51:34 <Daviey> 18th, same time, same place
16:51:41 <Daviey> #ENDMEETING