#title #ubuntu-meeting: Server Team Meeting started by SpamapS at 16:05:54 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-09-04-16.05.log.html . == Meeting summary == *Review ACTION points from previous meeting ''ACTION:'' smoser follow up on bug 1028453 (SpamapS, 16:08:25) *Quantal Development ''LINK:'' https://launchpad.net/bugs/1040033 (SpamapS, 16:10:12) ''LINK:'' https://launchpad.net/bugs/1025203 (SpamapS, 16:10:55) ''LINK:'' https://launchpad.net/bugs/1028453 (SpamapS, 16:12:08) ''LINK:'' https://launchpad.net/bugs/995285 (SpamapS, 16:12:38) ''LINK:'' https://launchpad.net/bugs/1024281 (SpamapS, 16:13:31) ''LINK:'' https://launchpad.net/bugs/1044229 (SpamapS, 16:14:30) ''LINK:'' http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-tracking-bug-tasks.html (jamespage, 16:18:06) ''ACTION:'' jamespage to look into aligning release team and server team trackign reports (SpamapS, 16:20:15) ''LINK:'' http://launchpad.net/bugs/1027154 (SpamapS, 16:21:36) ''LINK:'' http://launchpad.net/bugs/967410 (SpamapS, 16:22:01) ''LINK:'' http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-tracking-bug-tasks.html (SpamapS, 16:24:15) ''LINK:'' http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-tracking-bug-tasks.html (SpamapS, 16:24:22) ''LINK:'' http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/group/topic-quantal-servercloud-overview.html (arosales, 16:25:11) ''LINK:'' http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/group/topic-quantal-servercloud-hardening.html (SpamapS, 16:25:53) ''LINK:'' https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-bug-triage-review (SpamapS, 16:26:34) ''LINK:'' https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-deployment-on-arm (arosales, 16:30:21) ''LINK:'' https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-ha (arosales, 16:30:27) *Ubuntu Server Team Events *Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) *Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) *Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak) *Open Discussion *Announce next meeting date and time Meeting ended at 16:53:10 UTC. == Votes == == Action items == * smoser follow up on bug 1028453 * jamespage to look into aligning release team and server team trackign reports == Action items, by person == * jamespage ** jamespage to look into aligning release team and server team trackign reports * smoser ** smoser follow up on bug 1028453 == People present (lines said) == * SpamapS (84) * arosales (51) * jamespage (14) * smoser (10) * ubottu (10) * hggdh (7) * m_3 (6) * meetingology (5) * zul (4) * smb (3) * adam_g (3) * utlemming (2) * hallyn (2) * rbasak (1) == Full Log == 16:05:54 #startmeeting Server Team 16:05:54 Meeting started Tue Sep 4 16:05:54 2012 UTC. The chair is SpamapS. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 16:05:54 16:05:54 Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 16:06:04 #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting 16:06:11 smoser follow up on bug 1028453 16:06:13 Launchpad bug 1028453 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Quantal Ubuntu Server minimal install oversized" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1028453 16:06:15 SpamapS: thanks :-) 16:06:21 arosales update IRCComands for Quantal dev 16:06:26 done 16:06:30 arosales to follow up with hggdh and QA team on Server IRC contact 16:07:13 * hggdh pops up & pays attention 16:07:15 i poked a bit on that. it really seems like test case issue/assumption 16:07:34 I agree. But the size grew, no matter what 16:07:36 its too big because we're not getting the '-virtual' kernel installed. 16:07:44 but i'm not sure what lead to that. 16:07:53 well, its somehwere in the kernel transition 16:08:01 but it really seemed like they did that right when i looked a bit. 16:08:03 hggdh: hello, to confirm are you the correct contact for QA for our weekly meetings here? 16:08:07 there is no -virtual anymore. And there is the additional -extras package 16:08:11 smoser: so, carry forward? 16:08:14 anyway, at least a significant portion of "too big" is due to kernel. 16:08:17 sure. 16:08:19 carried. 16:08:25 #action smoser follow up on bug 1028453 16:08:25 * meetingology smoser follow up on bug 1028453 16:08:26 arosales: yes, indeed. Was on holiday until yesterday 16:08:27 Launchpad bug 1028453 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Quantal Ubuntu Server minimal install oversized" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1028453 16:08:52 arosales to update events to include CFP 16:08:56 hggdh: as was I :-). Just wanted to confirm :-) 16:08:56 I see thats done in the agenda :) 16:09:12 #topic Quantal Development 16:09:29 SpamapS: I am also going to work on building out a wiki table that folks can update, but start with at least a reminder in the agenda. 16:09:40 cool 16:09:55 hggdh: thanks for all the server QA help :-) 16:09:57 Release Bugs - http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html 16:10:12 https://launchpad.net/bugs/1040033 16:10:14 Launchpad bug 1040033 in qemu-kvm (Ubuntu Quantal) "Fresh VM installs via preseeded oneiric isos sometimes fail with filesystem issues" [Critical,Triaged] 16:10:19 unassigned 16:10:55 https://launchpad.net/bugs/1025203 16:10:56 Launchpad bug 1025203 in quantum (Ubuntu) "Trying to overwrite '/etc/quantum/plugins/openvswitch/ovs_quantum_plugin.ini', which is also in package quantum-server" [High,Fix committed] 16:11:07 zul: all good for next upload? 16:11:17 SpamapS: working on it now 16:11:56 hallyn: the qemu-kvm one seems like something maybe you'd be interested in? 16:12:08 https://launchpad.net/bugs/1028453 16:12:09 Launchpad bug 1028453 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Quantal Ubuntu Server minimal install oversized" [High,Confirmed] 16:12:19 already discussed 16:12:38 https://launchpad.net/bugs/995285 16:12:39 Launchpad bug 995285 in nova (Ubuntu Quantal) "if /etc/sudoers.d/nova_sudoers is removed, upgrades fail" [Low,Triaged] 16:13:06 somebody should probably take ownership of that 16:13:08 zul: ? 16:13:10 adam_g: ? 16:13:17 SpamapS: gimme 16:13:20 ill assign myself 16:13:24 werd 16:13:31 https://launchpad.net/bugs/1024281 16:13:33 Launchpad bug 1024281 in python-glanceclient (Ubuntu) "Bug during installation. conflicts: python-glanceclient + glance-client" [Undecided,Confirmed] 16:13:43 daviey said he was going to do that 16:14:01 adam_g: That sounds like 'Critical' ? 16:14:30 https://launchpad.net/bugs/1044229 16:14:32 Launchpad bug 1044229 in maas (Ubuntu) "DHCP config doesn't get written unless an inhuman combination of scripts is run" [Undecided,New] 16:15:10 * SpamapS feels like Ben Stein 16:15:15 anyone? anyone? 16:15:51 at least lets triage it before we put it on our release tracking 16:16:07 SpamapS: RE glanceclient, i was waiting on upstream to determine how they're going to handle the migration between clients. since it appears not high on their list, i'll see about pulling the trigger in our packaging and making the migration in ubuntu the default 16:16:27 adam_g: sweet 16:17:03 unless somebody wants to bring up any other bugs, we'll move on to BP's 16:17:16 o/ 16:17:33 actually I do want to bring something up about release tracking bug 16:17:37 bring it 16:18:04 we are a little out of alignment with the report that the release team are using for tracking bugs 16:18:06 http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-tracking-bug-tasks.html 16:18:21 there is a specific server section; I have been reviewing over the last few days 16:18:51 basically anything with a quantal task in the ubuntu-server packageset gets on that list 16:19:26 That seems more natural 16:19:27 really a FYI for the moment; we need to figure out how to align the two things (which I will pickup) 16:20:09 jamespage: perhaps integration with Ursinha new bug reports? 16:20:15 #action jamespage to look into aligning release team and server team trackign reports 16:20:15 * meetingology jamespage to look into aligning release team and server team trackign reports 16:20:16 maybe 16:20:19 ta 16:20:21 I guess these bugs are more tag related 16:20:30 jamespage: thanks for brining this up 16:20:40 These bugs here all need addressing or they wouldn't have a quantal task 16:21:36 http://launchpad.net/bugs/1027154 16:21:37 Launchpad bug 1027154 in maas (Ubuntu Quantal) "Unable to look up a node based on mac address" [High,Triaged] 16:21:45 That probably needs an assignee 16:22:01 http://launchpad.net/bugs/967410 16:22:02 Launchpad bug 967410 in samba (Ubuntu Quantal) "Windows clients cannot connect to shared printers " [High,Confirmed] 16:22:07 that too 16:22:17 SpamapS, I'm on that - its not actually confirmed IMHO 16:22:22 Ahh ok 16:22:34 yeah I'm not going to worry about New's or less than High then 16:23:06 jamespage: <-- loves samba 16:23:13 * jamespage falls off his chair 16:23:17 a lot of the juju bugs there were opened as quantal tasks assuming juju would re-try for main in quantal so they can probably be 'wont fixed' 16:23:36 shall we move on to BP's? 16:23:50 OK - as this is a new list that not everyone will have looked at please can I suggest people take a look 16:23:56 SpamapS, please do 16:24:15 #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-tracking-bug-tasks.html 16:24:19 so it is remembered 16:24:22 http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-tracking-bug-tasks.html 16:24:28 * SpamapS does not know how to work the bot 16:24:30 ok 16:24:38 Blueprints - http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/ubuntu-server.html 16:25:05 Looks like we have gone into the red for servercloud-q blueprints 16:25:11 #link http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/group/topic-quantal-servercloud-overview.html 16:25:26 Yeah its time to start hammering on the postponed 16:25:37 SpamapS: should we quickly go over the high/essentials in the red? 16:25:38 do it now so people don't hold out hope :) 16:25:53 http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/group/topic-quantal-servercloud-hardening.html 16:25:54 +1 be nice to let folks know what wont be landing 16:26:04 That one in particular needs a lot 16:26:34 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-bug-triage-review 16:26:56 Ursinha: ^^ Perhaps some of these aren't going to happen? 16:27:18 sorry - that one is a little stalled ATM - Ursinha and I have been looking at bugs/fixes to the gravity reports to replace everything 16:29:05 Daviey: zul: adam_g: openstack blueprints progressing ok? 16:29:16 27% https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-qa 16:29:20 i think so...ill update them today if they need to 16:29:33 36% https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-folsom 16:29:52 24% https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-stable 16:30:21 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-deployment-on-arm 16:30:27 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-ha 16:30:44 I know a lot of these have to land later in the cycle 16:31:03 ARM on openstack looks to be coming along. 16:32:38 SpamapS: I think we are going to work on trying to sync up with the juju team on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy 16:32:59 utlemming: how is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-jenkins-cloud-builder progressing? 16:33:11 arosales: 100% 16:33:13 I think the initial build server is live, correct? 16:33:25 utlemming: blueprint @ 44% though 16:33:25 arosales: the release policy stuff is in progress.. I'm not worried about those last items getting done 16:33:37 SpamapS: ok, thanks. 16:33:39 arosales: just changed 16:33:57 utlemming: ok, thanks. 16:34:16 SpamapS: you also feel ok about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charm-best-practices 16:34:59 I think we nailed a lot of that week before last... somebody's gotta update the bp 16:35:02 SpamapS: as well as https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charm-unit-tests 16:35:38 hallyn: you feel comfortable with https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-lxc for beta1? 16:35:40 arosales: biggest prob with that bp atm is a vague "unit tests for flagship charms"... 16:35:54 arosales: for the most part yes. I need to sync back up with everybody on the unit tests, but I think its basically ready. 16:36:03 SpamapS: ok 16:36:10 looking 16:36:26 m_3: ya we just defined the flagship charms . . 16:36:32 m_3 a unit test is a unit test, correct 16:36:43 arosales: yes. i will postpone user namespaces doc item 16:36:45 or was that additional testing for those flagship charms 16:36:52 * arosales will follow up with m_3 offline 16:36:58 hallyn: thanks for taking a look 16:37:06 and last one 16:37:17 smoser: you feel ok with https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-cloud-init-utils for beta2? 16:37:31 I guess beta 2 gives us some more time. 16:37:38 arosales: was embedded '/tests' for each charm 16:38:05 m_3: gotcha, so getting some more tests for those "flagship" charms. 16:38:21 perhaps just getting one test for a good charm would be a good example for that work item 16:38:41 SpamapS: sorry to highjack, back to you. 16:39:26 arosales: oh no, thank *you* 16:39:32 arosales: will update accordingly.. .thanks 16:39:36 #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events 16:39:48 Its September! 16:39:51 arosales, willl look 16:40:04 smoser: thanks 16:40:13 m_3: thanks :-) 16:40:35 SpamapS: cloud open go ok? 16:40:55 I will be talking about Juju at the San Gabriel Valley Linux Users Group, Sep 13 http://www.sgvlug.org/meetings/2012/09/13/cloning_sysadmins_with_the_cloud_and_juju 16:41:00 CloudOpen was great 16:41:15 attendance felt a bit light.. 16:41:29 hmm interesting 16:41:33 jimbaker also said he got good interest at the UCAR Seminar 16:41:36 but lots of smart people there 16:41:49 discovered this: http://linux-ha.org/source-doc/assimilation/html/index.html .. which is cool 16:41:56 Anyway, CFP's.. anybody? 16:42:19 I think September may be light on events 16:42:23 everybody heading back to school and all 16:42:38 btw, linuxplumbers went off without a hitch... driven by juju! 16:42:38 I think folks already submitted some papers for surge 16:42:45 m_3: right! 16:42:45 m_3: woot! 16:42:53 m_3: thanks for helping charm that and keep it going 16:43:09 Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) 16:43:11 oops 16:43:14 #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) 16:43:19 * m_3 fleshed out some more "juju in production" best practices from it 16:43:23 \o 16:44:07 since I just returned from a long holiday, and am also with a sinus & throat infection, I do not have anything to show right now. But I DO accept questions :-) 16:44:16 .. 16:45:25 get to feeling better hggdh 16:45:54 #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) 16:46:01 Since I have been on conferences last week there isn't much I think to be reported here. smoser and me would discuss the cd size issue later on. Are there questions/issues others want to bring up? 16:46:04 .. 16:46:41 smb: craving one of those california burritos yet? ;-) 16:46:54 #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak) 16:46:59 smb, i'll ping you in a bit 16:47:04 Nothing new to report. Any questions for me? 16:47:23 SpamapS, I did not have too many of them, so I am not to bad. :) 16:51:26 oops sorry 16:51:34 #topic Open Discussion 16:51:41 thought I had pasted that already :p 16:52:09 going once 16:52:24 going twice 16:52:42 #topic Announce next meeting date and time 16:52:57 Next Tuesday, September 11, 1600 UTC here in #ubuntu-meeting 16:53:10 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)