#title #ubuntu-meeting Meeting Meeting started by AlanBell at 18:00:29 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-07-29-18.00.log.html . == Meeting summary == ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcCouncil/MeetingAgenda (AlanBell, 18:04:00) *Review last meetings action items *m4v Pici AlanBell to look into adding ban removal to ubottu cababilities (AlanBell, 18:05:53) ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/2012-July/001565.html (AlanBell, 18:06:24) *Open items in the IRCC tracker ''ACTION:'' AlanBell to revert the IRCC launchpad contact redirect to the tracker (AlanBell, 18:17:22) *Review Bugs related to the Ubuntu IRC Council *bug 892500 eir is still not fit for purpose in #ubuntu (AlanBell, 18:20:47) *bug 913541 there are a number of people with Ubuntu IRC cloaks who have expired from the ubuntumembers group - AlanBell (AlanBell, 18:21:19) *alignment of launchpad teams and channel access lists *membership applications *Any Other Business ''ACTION:'' topyli to blog about the training classes/logs (AlanBell, 18:34:52) ''ACTION:'' topyli to sort out team reports (AlanBell, 18:35:29) Meeting ended at 18:38:58 UTC. == Votes == == Action items == * AlanBell to revert the IRCC launchpad contact redirect to the tracker * topyli to blog about the training classes/logs * topyli to sort out team reports == Action items, by person == * AlanBell ** AlanBell to revert the IRCC launchpad contact redirect to the tracker * topyli ** topyli to blog about the training classes/logs ** topyli to sort out team reports == People present (lines said) == * AlanBell (79) * topyli (23) * IdleOne (18) * meetingology (6) * LjL (4) * funkyHat (4) * pleia2 (2) * ubottu (2) * Tm_T (2) * Pendulum (1) * bazhang (1) == Full Log == 18:00:29 #startmeeting 18:00:29 Meeting started Sun Jul 29 18:00:29 2012 UTC. The chair is AlanBell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 18:00:29 18:00:29 Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 18:00:38 hi all, who is here for the IRC meeting? 18:00:40 I will be here, for a change! 18:00:46 * funkyHat 18:00:46 yay, hi funkyHat 18:01:04 Hi ⢁) 18:01:58 I should have sent a reminder to the list probably 18:02:24 oh hello 18:02:25 but I know Pici isn't around 18:02:27 hi LjL 18:02:38 AlanBell: you were a bit busy 18:03:00 I was, doing BBQ stuff 18:03:11 and watching beach volleyball, important stuff like that 18:03:40 ok, lets start on the agenda 18:04:00 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcCouncil/MeetingAgenda 18:04:09 #topic Review last meetings action items 18:04:52 x1k is up for membership but isn't in the channel it seems 18:05:03 hello 18:05:53 #progress m4v Pici AlanBell to look into adding ban removal to ubottu cababilities 18:06:24 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/2012-July/001565.html 18:06:26 I liked what was posted on the mailinglist 18:06:35 hi, sorry i'm late 18:06:35 m4v has made good progress 18:06:49 "I did like everyone to test the feature with scratDev in #ubuntu-bots-test, 18:06:51 topyli: academic quarter (: 18:06:51 just go there and set some bans and quiets. Report any bugs you find and ping 18:06:54 me for questions." 18:06:57 hi topyli 18:07:45 yes m4v is doing great 18:08:01 that does all sound really cool 18:08:26 so I think we should get lots of people in #ubuntu-bots-test to try it out 18:08:52 and get bug reports filed and suggestions made 18:09:08 I tested yesterday with a ban and a quiet, only problems I had were user error. 18:09:53 the bot responses could be a little more informative, m4v said he was aware and going to work on them. 18:09:56 ok, well I will certainly have a play with it 18:10:06 i didn't test this yet, but i'm all for having ubottu handle this. a bit concerned over duplicated effort, but i guess it's things that happen 18:10:43 it is an ubottu clone isn't it? 18:10:48 it is 18:11:04 AlanBell: yeah but i mean, niko also had something like this (except it wasn't 100% an ubottu clone etc, yes i know) 18:11:59 yes, but there were problems with the test suite etc 18:12:18 ok, so lets promote the testing of this bot over the next few weeks 18:12:33 and also try to break it/do evil things to it 18:13:16 i have dinner now, can't attend any further. don't decide anything i'd approve of! 18:13:28 hah 18:13:40 hehe 18:13:50 LjL: did we ever? :) 18:13:54 ok, so that is great progress, really pleased with that 18:14:07 #topic Open items in the IRCC tracker 18:14:30 right, so we redirected a bunch of launchpad emails to the tracker, somewhat more than we expected to do 18:14:57 now every time someone is added or removed or expires from a team we get a ticket created 18:15:07 it is a bit of a problem. now we have to go close those tickets, and i've failed to do that 18:15:27 the intention was to redirect the "contact this team" link to the ticket tracker, but it had unexpected side effects 18:15:45 You guys are getting all the " This person has extended their membership emails? 18:15:46 I wasn't sure at first if this was a bug or a feature, but I am now leaning towards "bug" 18:16:01 I think it's a bug too 18:16:04 IdleOne: yeah, we get that anyway, but now the tracker hassles us to resolve the "issue" 18:16:06 yes it backfired a bit, it's not really much better than that stuff coming to my inbox 18:16:22 s/much/any/ 18:16:40 ok, so lets undo that then and put it back as it was 18:16:49 yes 18:17:22 #action AlanBell to revert the IRCC launchpad contact redirect to the tracker 18:17:22 * meetingology AlanBell to revert the IRCC launchpad contact redirect to the tracker 18:17:55 someone is free to take the action of taunting me for suggesting this in the first place :) 18:18:43 :) 18:18:52 I think there are no "real" tickets 18:19:23 right 18:19:40 * AlanBell closes the open ones 18:20:39 #topic Review Bugs related to the Ubuntu IRC Council 18:20:47 #subtopic bug 892500 eir is still not fit for purpose in #ubuntu 18:20:48 Launchpad bug 892500 in ubuntu-community "eir is still not fit for purpose in #ubuntu" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/892500 18:21:08 well we discussed this one, I will add a note to it linking to that email and the testing we are doing 18:21:10 still in progress 18:21:16 yes 18:21:19 #subtopic bug 913541 there are a number of people with Ubuntu IRC cloaks who have expired from the ubuntumembers group - AlanBell 18:21:20 Launchpad bug 913541 in ubuntu-community "there are a number of people with Ubuntu IRC cloaks who have expired from the ubuntumembers group" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/913541 18:21:46 pici was having a go at this one, I will check the current progress on this and maybe help with it over the next few days, I want to get this to zero 18:22:03 ok, that is the bugs 18:22:07 #topic alignment of launchpad teams and channel access lists 18:22:24 I haven't done much on this for a bit, but I will pick it up again over the next week or so 18:22:46 #topic membership applications 18:23:19 we have a membership application from x1k in the agenda, however he is not in the channel 18:23:22 x1k is not around 18:23:44 deferred? 18:24:04 probably best 18:24:26 yes I think so too 18:24:50 #topic Any Other Business 18:25:05 anyone got any other items to raise today? 18:25:17 i noticed that our team reports are lagging 18:25:21 BT access? DO all the ops have it? 18:25:24 Do* 18:25:57 topyli: that is a very fair point 18:25:57 those in probation don't, but everyone else? 18:26:18 those in probation should have access too 18:26:20 I think 18:26:25 AlanBell: i can bring them up to date when i'm bored enough 18:26:39 it is only a lack of actually doing it that is the problem 18:26:48 it makes it difficult to learn how to use BT without access 18:26:57 IdleOne: yes 18:27:01 so how do we give bantracker access, is this a tsimpson question? 18:27:23 AlanBell: m4v has the capability to add BT access also 18:27:29 ok, great 18:27:41 someone on the IRCC should have it too 18:27:44 so :) 18:27:58 yeah, that would be handy 18:28:01 yep, but i don't think any of us does 18:29:09 ok, that is something to sort out 18:29:44 it's legacy from the time when tsimpson was on the ircc, and we forgot to handle it 18:30:11 afaik tsimpson jussi and m4v have the owner capability 18:30:35 but it only makes sense that the IRCC has the power to add users. 18:30:39 ok, we will get that sorted and make sure all the ops have access 18:31:04 we had a training class last week by Myrtti http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/07/26/%23ubuntu-classroom.html 18:31:15 which was really good, but lightly attended 18:31:31 I know some people had timezone issues and wanted to read the logs which is fine 18:32:13 we have another training session on Thursday 2nd 18:32:43 at 17:00 UTC with LJL leading it 18:32:50 we could advertise the log, and maybe my 'helping when you're not an op' class 18:32:51 a tour of the bots and channels 18:33:04 topyli: yes, that would be great 18:33:08 oh, let's wait until that's done too 18:33:28 i don't think we should wait on spreading good info 18:33:38 we should try and get more people to participate in the next one, particularly the new operators 18:33:42 we can have multiple blog posts and do just as well 18:34:05 true, it's not like we're exactly spamming the planet currently :) 18:34:07 Myrtti's class was excellent and people should hear about it 18:34:11 IdleOne: agreed, the more the merrier 18:34:24 topyli: you have access to the blog, want to post an article about it? 18:34:36 AlanBell: ok 18:34:52 #action topyli to blog about the training classes/logs 18:34:52 * meetingology topyli to blog about the training classes/logs 18:35:02 ok, any other things to discuss now? 18:35:10 AlanBell: add an action for me also to fix the team reports so i don't forget 18:35:15 we tossed one up on the classroom blog late last week too (friday I believe) 18:35:24 so hopefully that'll help too :) 18:35:29 #action topyli to sort out team reports 18:35:29 * meetingology topyli to sort out team reports 18:35:37 thanks pleia2 18:38:22 topyli: maybe add a blurb about testing the new bot features too? :) 18:38:49 good idea, so if that is everything . . . 18:38:58 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)