20:05:08 #startmeeting 20:05:08 Meeting started Tue Jun 19 20:05:08 2012 UTC. The chair is czajkowski. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 20:05:08 20:05:08 Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 20:05:08 Portlandia here :) 20:05:09 As do I tgm4883 20:05:11 nathwill: where u from? :P 20:05:17 aloha and welcome to the Loco council meeting 20:05:29 we will be going through the teams in the order on the wiki page 20:05:30 Hello from Greece,too. 20:05:35 sit back and enjoy :) 20:05:53 Hello frem Greek team 20:05:56 #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/Agenda 20:06:03 * c_smith kicks back with music going through his headset 20:06:04 me too from Greek team 20:06:12 me too :) 20:06:15 c_smith: ;-) 20:06:16 Hello from Greek team 20:06:16 #topic Quebec Re approval 20:06:26 #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuebecTeam/ReApprovalApplication2012 20:06:39 * tgm4883 is 37.5% greek, but lives in oregon 20:07:04 great looking reapproval app 20:07:06 tgm4883: hiya, we're doing another team first :) 20:07:13 komputes: ping 20:07:25 Just got here 20:07:28 czajkowski, ah, I saw all the greek team people pipe up 20:07:37 hello QuecbecTeam! 20:07:43 anyone here from Quebec ? 20:08:03 Hello from me too 20:08:36 no :/ 20:08:37 ok 20:08:41 * highvoltage 20:08:48 sad 20:08:50 nobody here 20:08:51 (oh sorry not me) 20:08:56 sorry not from Quebec and spoke out of turn now sitting down quitely and waiting my turn 20:08:58 highvoltage: I did wonder 20:09:04 (I'm in quebec but didn't read the context) 20:09:17 #topic Greek Loco re approval 20:09:24 #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GreekTeam/ReApprovalApplication2012 20:09:31 Geochr: ping 20:09:37 this is actually the app I was referring to when I said it looks good, GreekTeam :) 20:09:40 Hello from Greece ! 20:09:41 Hello Ubuntu Greek Team! 20:09:47 welcome 20:09:49 thanks for coming folks 20:09:55 Hello :) 20:10:01 yes, It is an awesome work! everything is there! 20:10:06 also fantastic application! 20:10:08 Hello ! 20:10:10 Glad to be here! 20:10:11 thanks 20:10:13 amazing work and pictures make me happy! 20:10:24 czajkowski, me too 20:10:28 Really good activity!! 20:10:31 definitely, pictures++ 20:10:40 so Geochr care to tell us about your loco and how you do things please 20:10:56 As an Ubuntu community, we started in 2005. We were first approved in 2008, reapproved in 2010, and hopefully for 2012. 20:11:09 One of our core aims is to provide support for users in the Greek language. We achieved this with the forum (currently over 9500 members). 20:11:19 wow 20:11:25 Whenever we promote Ubuntu, we simply recommend new users to visit the forum for user support. 20:11:30 9500!!! 20:11:37 We aim to help our members to learn more about Ubuntu and enable them to bring more users to Ubuntu. 20:11:58 We worked as a team and completed the localisation of Ubuntu 12.04 to Greek. 20:12:09 e have two translation teams in aim to translate Ubuntu. The current release is fully translated in Greek language. 20:12:19 We* 20:12:22 yay 20:12:45 Another activity of our community is the Ubuntistas magazine. The whole magazine is fully created by our members (editorial, graphics etc). We have 14 issues since the first isue in November 2008 20:12:48 Geochr: so how has the team grown, since you were approved last? has the team had to over come any issues 20:13:34 Yes, we are do our best to improve the team 20:13:46 and to spread the Ubuntu 20:14:06 hi czajkowski 20:14:33 komputes: we're in the middle of another team application now will try and circle back to you ok 20:14:40 ok 20:14:50 Geochr: is there something we the loco council can help with ? 20:15:17 the ubuntu magazine is a wonderful idea!... and congratulations Geochr and ubuntu Greek 20:15:36 excelente application 20:15:41 excellent 20:15:53 Any advise from the loco council is welecome 20:15:56 itnet7: SergioMeneses greg-g any other comments 20:16:12 czajkowski, no 20:16:14 Not really, I think we're ready to vote 20:16:25 not from me,I love the application, well done GreekTeam! 20:16:30 #voters SergioMeneses itnet7 czajkowski greg-g 20:16:30 Current voters: SergioMeneses czajkowski greg-g itnet7 20:16:38 the congratulations are for the whole team nad not personal 20:16:41 #votesrequired 3 20:16:41 votes now need 3 to be passed 20:16:43 +1 20:16:46 +1 20:16:49 +1 20:16:53 patience! 20:16:56 lol 20:17:06 #vote please vote on the re approval of the Greek LoCo 20:17:06 Please vote on: please vote on the re approval of the Greek LoCo 20:17:06 Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 20:17:14 +1 amazing application keep up the great work 20:17:14 +1 amazing application keep up the great work received from czajkowski 20:17:19 thanks... 20:17:21 +1 definitely 20:17:21 +1 definitely received from itnet7 20:17:24 +1 20:17:24 +1 received from greg-g 20:17:25 +1 excellent! 20:17:25 +1 excellent! received from SergioMeneses 20:17:34 #endvote 20:17:34 Voting ended on: please vote on the re approval of the Greek LoCo 20:17:34 Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 20:17:34 Motion carried 20:17:37 :) 20:17:42 well done team! 20:17:52 thanks loco council 20:17:54 thank you! 20:18:05 see you 2014 ! 20:18:06 congratulations 20:18:06 #action SergioMeneses update lauchpad with updated expirary date 20:18:06 * meetingology SergioMeneses update lauchpad with updated expirary date 20:18:10 :) 20:18:21 czajkowski, ok 20:18:31 #topic Oregon Approval 20:18:35 Good Job Greece!! 20:18:41 #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OregonTeam/ApprovalApplication 20:18:42 thanks 20:18:43 hello there Oregon :) 20:18:51 Hiya! 20:18:52 o/ 20:18:53 Quack 20:18:54 Hello Ubuntu Oregon Team! 20:18:54 Quack 20:18:54 QUACK! 20:18:55 Hi 20:18:57 Quack 20:18:57 nathwill: hi there 20:18:58 quack 20:18:58 Quack 20:19:04 Quack! 20:19:04 hi all 20:19:07 Quack 20:19:09 nathwill: hiya care to tell us about the team ? 20:19:09 congrats to greek team! 20:19:16 um... moo 20:19:16 * shirgall also quacks 20:19:22 * sbeattie waves 20:19:27 lol 20:19:30 tgm4883 will be stepping in for nathwill 20:19:32 thanks from greece 20:19:44 czajkowski, actually, tgm4833 is gonna be taking over for the meeting, i've got some work stuff blowing up that is making me only intermittently available 20:19:58 tgm4883: ok hi there 20:20:12 I wouldn't have thought I'd see so much quacking in a LC meeting 20:20:23 greg-g: ;-) 20:20:23 Although unofficially a team, we've been contributing to Ubuntu in different capacities for quite a while now 20:20:27 greg-g, if it walks like a duck... 20:20:37 Be it release parties, ubuntu hours, bug squashing parties, etc 20:20:46 delayed quack! 20:21:01 quack quack 20:21:07 what is quack? or means 20:21:10 bkerensa, has really done quite a lot of work in getting us organized and getting us out into the community 20:21:11 quack 20:21:18 quack? 20:21:19 ok less quacking and more answering :) 20:21:19 +1 20:21:20 please 20:21:31 Quack = Duck noise... Oregon state animal :P 20:21:34 it doesnt translate well 20:21:34 it's an oregon joke 20:21:43 czajkowski, it's an Oregon joke. 20:21:54 just a point of clarification, there is a important difference between an official team and an approved team. Official isn't a defined word in the LoCo world, so, any team that is working towards approval is effectively the official team of that area 20:22:18 czajkowski, The Oregon team has the largest amount of bug fixes of any loco in North America 20:22:26 greg-g: +1 20:22:35 totally agree 20:22:50 we try to have lots of fixes in the repository each cycle 20:23:24 and our team did much of the multi-arch transitioning of libraries for 12.04 20:24:07 http://oregonsportsreport.com/or_files/ducks.gif <<<< the Duck in question :) 20:24:30 tgm4883: great, how do you manage all of this as I see from launchpad you have 45 members, but yet ye say ye have over 1K followers on social sites, do you think at some point you will get people in these areas to get involved? 20:25:56 tgm4883: I enjoyed reading about your events and outreach 20:25:59 czajkowski, While we have 45 members that considered themselves part of our team and have signed up on that web-page, we have a larger community that comes to these events that we hold that are not part of our team 20:26:16 tgm4883: cool 20:26:20 thats good to know 20:27:13 czajkowski, I think the primary reason most people don't join that page is the requirement for a LP account 20:27:25 we encourage, but never force 20:28:07 we've also got some pretty active folks in the juju charm-writing community 20:28:19 very good work on all of the fixes, and development that you're team is doing as well! 20:28:29 czajkowski, I've been with the team since I started contributing to Ubuntu (back in 2007 when there were 3 of us) and I can absolutely say that I am proud of the accomplishments this team has made 20:29:17 nods 20:29:25 Yep... myself, nathwill and kees all have charms in the charm store and kees and I have both won awards on two occasions.. We regularly use Kees sbuild charm to do package building at BSP's and Bug Jams 20:29:26 greg-g: SergioMeneses itnet7 any other questions 20:29:39 tgm4883: what is one of your team biggest accomplishments that you're proud of?? 20:29:41 nathwill, bkerensa Can you tell us something about your future goals? 20:29:57 I've been hoping to encourage other locos to use the sbuild charm. it's very handy. 20:30:09 Our team has been blessed by some of the members being so good at what they do and able to teach the rest of us (kees, slangasek, bdmurray, and others) 20:30:22 just another point of clarification, and this isn't meant to be a jab/criticism, work done by Canonical employees during their work time isn't normally looked at for either personal Ubuntu Membership nor LoCo approval (pending special circumstance) so the library transition (which I assume was done by the great work of the Canonical Oregon people) doesn't really count for this application. 20:30:24 SergioMeneses: My biggest goal or hope is that we can continue to grow our base of contributors while educating our existing base and teaching them how to do more packaging and bug fixes 20:30:36 (sorry to be the perpetual point clarifier) 20:30:47 czajkowski, we're working on expanding Ubuntu Hours as a low-key, low-pressure way for people to get involved with the community 20:30:47 (also, if I misunderstood/assumed incorrectly, let me know) 20:30:50 we'd also like to expand to other areas in Oregon 20:30:54 fwiw, I don't work for Canonical. 20:31:01 greg-g: Canonical employees are not required to come to loco events or contribute and do so voluntarily :) we have a number who do participate and plenty who do not 20:31:11 i've got some contacts down in Medford who i'm working on getting together so they can coordinate team events in the southern piece of the state 20:31:13 greg-g: and some of the transitioning work was done at a weekend event 20:31:21 itnet7, Personally I think our biggest accomplishment is actually being able to successfully have the events we have had. Unlike much of the east coast, oregon is not so densely populated so getting the numbers of people we have seen at the events is quite outstanding 20:31:21 ^ 20:31:25 bkerensa: right, that is great, and that is separate/othoganal to what I was referring to 20:31:33 bdmurray: oh, that's cool! 20:31:35 also kees for the record is not a Canonical employee ;) 20:31:40 kees: I guess I missed that :) 20:31:42 May I throw something in? 20:31:45 bkerensa, great! 20:31:54 cool tgm4883, Thanks! Sure c_smith 20:32:01 greg-g: what's referred to for the multiarch library transitions was a weekend event 20:32:25 slangasek: gotcha, then I assumed wrong in the specific case here. 20:32:34 (the general point still stands ;) ) 20:32:37 I and a few other folks here in Salem host an Ubuntu Hour weekly, slowly but surely more people are attending. 20:32:40 my apologies 20:32:46 greg-g: yep, understood :) 20:32:56 c_smith: that's really great!! 20:33:02 slangasek, thanks for clearing that up for me :) 20:33:11 If you work like a LoCo I don't see problem about the Canonical employees 20:33:15 right I'm keen to keep this moving we have more teams to get to today, any other comments / questions folks 20:33:23 yep, go ahead from me :) 20:33:30 I'm done clarifying points ;) 20:33:59 #vote please vote on the approval on the Oregon Loco 20:33:59 Please vote on: please vote on the approval on the Oregon Loco 20:33:59 Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 20:34:03 +1 20:34:07 :) 20:34:17 and thats why I do the named voters 20:34:23 :-) 20:34:23 +1 20:34:23 +1 received from greg-g 20:34:36 +1 20:34:36 +1 received from SergioMeneses 20:34:38 +1 Great Job! 20:34:38 +1 Great Job! received from itnet7 20:34:42 +1 20:34:42 +1 received from czajkowski 20:34:48 #endvote 20:34:48 Voting ended on: please vote on the approval on the Oregon Loco 20:34:48 Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 20:34:48 Motion carried 20:35:03 #action SergioMeneses update approved locoteams on launchpad and add Oregon loco 20:35:03 * meetingology SergioMeneses update approved locoteams on launchpad and add Oregon loco 20:35:06 Congratulations, Good Job Oregon!!! 20:35:16 welcome oregon loco 20:35:16 whooo!!!!! ty council-members :) 20:35:24 congrats Oregon 20:35:25 Ubuntu Oregon congratulations... and I like the "quack" thing xD 20:35:31 lol 20:35:32 Congrats guys you did great work! 20:35:34 ditto ;-) 20:35:37 and gals even :) 20:35:43 that's one who likes the joke. 20:36:00 #topic Chile LoCo Re approval 20:36:07 Yay 20:36:09 #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ChileanTeam/ReApprovalApplication2012 20:36:20 hi i'm fefa from chilean team 20:36:28 fefa_: hey there 20:36:33 cristianvirtual: ping 20:36:34 We're here for our second re approvalthis is the link to our wiki page with the latest activitiesand we've been involved in a lot of free software events in our Countryalways participating with our booth and giving talks about Ubuntu 20:36:40 hello Ubuntu Chilean Team! 20:36:46 hello 20:36:52 hello! 20:36:56 hola hola - hello 20:36:59 wow impressive application! 20:37:00 hey! 20:37:01 everybody say hi !! 20:37:01 and the link is: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ChileanTeam/ReApprovalApplication2012 20:37:27 cristianvirtual: hey so how are things in the team? 20:38:04 Very nice! 20:38:11 hi 20:38:15 czajkowski: greats! well, sorry im at work now, fefa is representing us for today :( sorry 20:38:16 sadly cristianvirtual (i think) is in a meeting right now 20:38:23 most of us are currently working 20:38:32 ~4 pm here in Chile 20:38:37 no problem 20:38:41 anyone cna jump in 20:38:45 how are the team doing 20:38:45 so any question here i am 20:38:46 things are going great in our LoCo team 20:38:48 * greg-g is "working" too 20:39:03 last time you guys were here it was post the earthquake and yet you guys were still active 20:39:04 this is the moment of the year were we have a lot of Free software related events 20:39:11 I can see from the wiki page no change there 20:39:13 yeah, conferene season. 20:39:19 it was a bit slow the past year, cause of the reconstruction and all that 20:39:23 nods 20:39:24 * greg-g nos 20:39:30 but we keep rolling 20:39:35 but you guys are still doing things so kudos to you al 20:39:40 so yeah things are going great this year for us as a team 20:39:58 what issues if any have ye overcome? 20:40:17 mostly related to our Geo , Chile is a loong country 20:40:23 yes it is :) 20:40:25 nods 20:40:30 so most of the 'issues' we have are related to that 20:40:35 do you have sub geographical get togethers/meetings? 20:40:38 we have problems with things like: merch 20:40:52 how to send the merch to the guys that are 900kms away from the main city :-P 20:40:58 nods that is sometimes an issue in teams it is sometimes active in one area over an other, but things change 20:41:01 the bill is a bit big when you have to do that 20:41:07 true! 20:41:26 yeah, we try to have monthly meetings to keep the communication going 20:41:31 * SergioMeneses nobs 20:41:41 and we also use the ML and since the past year facebook for the communication 20:41:47 pedro_: how do you guys organise events with people does everyone pitch in or how is it done 20:41:48 mostly for sending announcements 20:42:05 it seems that we have more users in that group that in the loco team itself :-P 20:42:12 pedro_, Can you tell us something about your future goals? 20:42:17 fefa_, ↑↑↑ 20:42:30 fefa_: all yours :-) 20:42:49 SergioMeneses the most importanta is waht pedro_ sayd before 20:42:55 we eant to get to the entyre country 20:43:03 with talks, events,etc 20:43:26 and also help people outside santiago to do that 20:43:59 like pedro- sayd is a little hard for the money that we spend sending merch but we do the best we can do 20:44:00 :) 20:44:29 is there anything the council can do to help you ? 20:44:32 fefa_, great 20:44:36 not financial :) 20:44:39 but on other ways 20:44:53 sometimes we have issues contacting Canonical for getting CDS 20:44:56 sponsors 20:45:01 so maybe that's something you guys can help us with? 20:45:18 for example, we didn't get any reply for like 6 months or so for the last request 20:45:21 that was an issue for us 20:45:38 true true.. 20:45:40 in the end , we have to spend money that was destinated to actually send merch to the rest of the country 20:45:45 in CDS 20:45:50 hmm 20:45:57 pedro_: was this for the approved cd allocation ? 20:45:59 so our budget was reduced because of that 20:46:05 czajkowski: yeah 20:46:08 the shipit process was holding you up? 20:46:09 huh 20:46:19 that's good to know, pedro_ , thanks 20:46:21 you did apply for them ? 20:46:23 don't really know if that happened to some other loco team or not 20:46:33 #action czajkowski chase up on Chile loco CD allocation 20:46:33 * meetingology czajkowski chase up on Chile loco CD allocation 20:47:01 pedro_: fefa_ if someone could drop me a mail with your details I will chase up on that for you tomrorow czajkowski@ubuntu.com 20:47:05 sorry about that 20:47:13 SergioMeneses: greg-g itnet7 anything else? 20:47:13 Thanks for not getting discouraged pedro_ ;-0 20:47:15 no worries 20:47:16 I'm good 20:47:19 and team 20:47:21 me too 20:47:25 czajkowski: will do it, thanks 20:47:42 czajkowski great i'll sendo you an email with all the details 20:47:44 thanks 20:47:44 shiping process is always a stress point for our pockets 20:47:53 #vote please vote on the re approval of the Chile loco 20:47:53 Please vote on: please vote on the re approval of the Chile loco 20:47:53 Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 20:48:00 +1 20:48:00 +1 received from greg-g 20:48:01 +1 :) 20:48:01 +1 :) received from czajkowski 20:48:04 +1 Awesome Job!! 20:48:04 +1 Awesome Job!! received from itnet7 20:48:04 +1 20:48:04 +1 received from SergioMeneses 20:48:11 #endvote 20:48:11 Voting ended on: please vote on the re approval of the Chile loco 20:48:11 Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 20:48:11 Motion carried 20:48:14 thanks pedro_ fefa_ and the rest of the team! 20:48:18 :-) 20:48:21 Definitely 20:48:22 thank you guys 20:48:26 thanks folks and sorry again for not having the whole loco team involved in this process as we wanted to :-) 20:48:27 congratulations fefa_ pedro_ and ubuntu chilean team! 20:48:34 pedro_: no worries 20:48:36 #action SergioMeneses update approved locoteams with chile new expiray date 20:48:36 * meetingology SergioMeneses update approved locoteams with chile new expiray date 20:48:45 * fefa_ was very nervous 20:48:49 thanks 20:48:54 thank you guys 20:48:56 SergioMeneses: just set it as 2020 or something :-P 20:48:59 :) 20:49:00 gracias! 20:49:06 \o/ 20:49:12 #topic Uruguay LoCo Re approval 20:49:14 pedro_, jajaja 20:49:18 #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UruguayTeam/ReApprovalApplication2012 20:49:21 Hello 20:49:24 PabloRubianes: ping 20:49:31 hi czajkowski 20:49:51 hello Ubuntu Uruguay Team! 20:49:57 welcome ! 20:49:57 hello PabloRubianes 20:50:03 thanks for coming and sorry for keeping you waiting 20:50:04 if you follow the event links there are photos and more details 20:50:14 no problem czajkowski 20:50:47 PabloRubianes: who did the video work for http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MCBDenb2bs 20:50:51 that was just AMAZING!!! 20:51:04 video with Mark! 20:51:05 :) 20:51:14 that was a huge almost one year process 20:51:38 we started to talk to Argentina loco in order to have a multi country event 20:51:40 PabloRubianes, congratulations about the UbuConLA, 20:51:49 and all worked really well 20:52:16 PabloRubianes, yes, I can see it in the planet! 20:52:18 thanks to google hangout and lot of hard work we did a great conference 20:52:39 nods 20:52:49 czajkowski, people was shocked about the video 20:52:53 czajkowski: that video work: 20:52:55 http://www.vacuispacii.org/motion-graphics-para-ubucon-latinoamerica/ 20:53:09 yes that was pretty 20:53:14 PabloRubianes: so tell us about your team 20:53:47 the team is quite active 20:54:01 trying to create new forms of events 20:54:12 as the "Welcome Day" 20:54:16