16:01:39 #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team 16:01:39 Meeting started Tue Mar 6 16:01:39 2012 UTC. The chair is roaksoax. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 16:01:39 16:01:39 Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 16:01:46 [TOPIC] Review ACTION points from previous meeting 16:01:57 there're no previous actions 16:02:01 according to the wikipage 16:02:05 so let's move on 16:02:06 czajkowski: thanks 16:02:15 [TOPIC] Precise Development 16:02:19 Daviey: you are up 16:02:37 roaksoax: fancy driving it yourself? 16:03:00 Daviey: sure 16:03:05 I think this topic should be split. There's quite a lot in it. 16:03:10 so let's go thru the release bugs! 16:03:17 yaay 16:03:18 http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html 16:03:29 rbasak: sure, make a proposal at AOB 16:03:41 bug #924739 -- adam_g any updates? 16:03:43 Launchpad bug 924739 in squid3 (Ubuntu Precise) "after upgrade from oneiric to precise, previous squid config unused, cannot be used when relocated" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/924739 16:04:00 adam_g: has the newer version that got merged from Debian fixed anything? 16:04:21 roaksoax: there is not going to be a fix in debian as far as i can tell, i have some direction on possible solutions 16:04:49 o/ 16:05:10 roaksoax: its not going to be seamless in any case, but we can try to make it obvious to users whats happening when we transition their proxy 16:05:19 sounds great! 16:05:26 well, "ok" 16:05:55 i added some notes to the bug about possible routes we can take, anyone interested should weigh in 16:06:05 adam_g: alright then, I guess once we release backports are gonna be the way to go here until everything is supported 16:06:30 next? 16:06:35 so let's move on bug #883988 16:06:37 Launchpad bug 883988 in glance (Ubuntu Precise) "db migration failing when upgrading glance - trying to create existing tables" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/883988 16:07:03 adam_g / zul any of you taking care of it? 16:07:04 roaksoax: for this one upstream has deferred it to their next cycle, best solution IMHO is to carry a patch to disable that autocreation of tables, which is what the other openstack components do already 16:07:28 adam_g: would you take care of it then? 16:07:42 adam_g: your plan sounds sane... but we'll need a debconf warning i think 16:07:49 roaksoax: yes, ill import the patch that was already proposed to do that and include it in our packaging this week 16:08:07 adam_g: awesome! 16:08:17 bug #893926 16:08:19 Launchpad bug 893926 in eucalyptus (Ubuntu) "Contains traces of UEC" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/893926 16:08:40 No progress. 16:09:02 who's taking care of it/who will, are you Daviey ? 16:09:12 roaksoax: I hoped upstream were going to TBH. 16:09:27 Daviey: lets not get our hopes up :) 16:09:31 roaksoax: We don't need to panic about it right now 16:09:41 indeed. let's move on then bug #923681 16:09:43 Launchpad bug 923681 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "Server install fails when selecting everything but 'VM host' & 'Manual selection' from tasksel" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/923681 16:09:50 zul: any updates? 16:09:57 isn't that fixed zul ? 16:10:17 Daviey: yeah its fixed 16:10:29 zul: update the state? :) 16:10:57 alright then. Moving on bug #925024 16:10:58 Launchpad bug 925024 in lxc (Ubuntu) "apparmor makes it impossible to install postgresql-common on Precise" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/925024 16:11:00 done 16:11:17 serge is not around apparently 16:11:28 so let's move on 16:11:41 bug #850443 16:11:43 Launchpad bug 850443 in python-eventlet (Ubuntu) "Nova API does not listen on IPv6" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/850443 16:11:51 Blocked on upstream progress 16:11:58 alrigh, bug #928990 16:11:59 Launchpad bug 928990 in cloud-init (Ubuntu) "fsck / dirty filesystem on instance is death" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/928990 16:12:00 Someone really ought to have a look at amavisd-new. 16:12:11 smoser: ^^? 16:12:32 roaksoax, no progress htere. 16:12:41 alright. bug #929780 16:12:42 ScottK: can you point bugs at the end of this section for 'other pertinent bugs" ? 16:12:43 Launchpad bug 929780 in nova (Ubuntu) "console.ring files should not be world readable" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/929780 16:12:57 i need to update that bug as well 16:13:09 didn't we question the validity of that? 16:13:14 OK 16:13:32 awesome. bug #875262 16:13:34 Launchpad bug 875262 in php5 (Ubuntu Oneiric) "PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/sqlite.so'" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/875262 16:13:48 koolhead17 is not around, so I guess we will need to catch up with him 16:13:56 SpamapS is assisting 16:14:17 alright, bug #880339 16:14:19 Launchpad bug 880339 in mysql-5.1 (Ubuntu Precise) "AppArmor profile needs update" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/880339 16:14:40 I have tried to reproduce this bug again for the fourth time with no luck. waiting for a response for the person who filled it. Otherwise, will mark it as invalid 16:14:49 bug #907197 16:14:51 Launchpad bug 907197 in nova (Ubuntu) "ip address can't be injected into the instance when using lxc " [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/907197 16:14:59 super 16:15:05 zul / adam_g ^^ 16:15:19 still pending 16:15:34 zul: can we have news on it by EoW? 16:15:41 Daviey: sure 16:15:51 ok then! bug #918791 16:15:53 Launchpad bug 918791 in qemu-kvm (Ubuntu Precise) "qemu-kvm dies when using vmvga driver and unity in the guest" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/918791 16:16:04 hallyn not here 16:16:08 talked w/serge about this 16:16:23 justinlw: any updates you'd care to share with us? 16:16:29 there is a patch ... of sorts... I don't think it's a fix, per se, but 16:16:37 I'm going to try it out. 16:16:47 sounds like it is progressing 16:17:08 indeed. Let;'s move on then. bug #924375 16:17:09 Launchpad bug 924375 in cloud-init (Ubuntu) "cloud-init should allow pre-seeding of ec2 datasource:Ec2:metadata_urls" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/924375 16:17:12 smoser: ? 16:17:28 i'll take that off the tracking list. 16:17:31 or change it. 16:17:43 smoser: not required now? 16:17:59 bug 942061 is more rlevant here. 16:18:00 Launchpad bug 942061 in cloud-init (Ubuntu) "need support for maas" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/942061 16:18:28 Alright, we need to add it as a release bug. thank you! bug #925024 16:18:29 Launchpad bug 925024 in lxc (Ubuntu) "apparmor makes it impossible to install postgresql-common on Precise" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/925024 16:18:50 err is duplicated in the list 16:18:59 bug #928378 16:19:00 Launchpad bug 928378 in glance (Ubuntu) "glance client should be separate from server" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/928378 16:19:11 zul / adam_g ? 16:19:32 pending 16:19:40 and I guess bug #901881 is related too 16:19:41 Launchpad bug 901881 in glance (Ubuntu) "nova and glance should depend on python-keystone" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/901881 16:20:00 bug #887186 16:20:01 Launchpad bug 887186 in orchestra (Ubuntu) "squid proxy big and small buckets not functioning correctly" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/887186 16:20:26 Not a worry just yet for orchestra, as we are changing just squid to squid-deb-proxy for MaaS 16:20:39 I'll update accordingly 16:20:43 roaksoax: dropping tracking of it 16:21:06 but this should also not longer be an issue withsquid in precise anymore 16:21:15 cool 16:21:17 bug #928501 16:21:18 Launchpad bug 928501 in ebox (Ubuntu) "Precise will ship totally broken ebox packages" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/928501 16:21:29 SpamapS: any updates? 16:21:35 jamespage: Were you looking at that aswell? 16:21:46 Daviey: no but I can help out if need be 16:22:06 jamespage: ah, confusing it with another. 16:22:07 Yes I will discuss it later in the meeting 16:22:10 I dealt with resara server 16:22:14 ah yes 16:22:31 awesome then. Last bug is duplicated so won't touch it 16:22:38 super 16:22:46 blueprints? 16:22:47 ScottK: what's the bug number for the issue you want us to keep track of? 16:23:00 Bug 930916 16:23:02 Launchpad bug 930916 in amavisd-new (Ubuntu) "amavis start-stop script fails to stop amavisd" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/930916 16:23:13 In general though I think the package needs checking over. 16:23:38 nice catch SpamapS 16:23:41 I don't think the postfix-amavis stuff is working, but have no time to look into it. 16:23:45 does anyone care to work on it? 16:24:01 this seems that it 16:24:17 I wonder if Ivoks has capacity, he has history in that stack 16:24:30 it seems that a fix has been release in Debian, but yet, we would still need the package review 16:24:33 Any other issues that should be tracked? 16:24:51 chef and ohai are broken...we might need to punt them :/ 16:25:21 :( 16:25:23 Unless somebody wants to step up and fix them .. like.. now 16:25:35 roaksoax: Want to go over blueprints? 16:25:44 Daviey: sure 16:25:55 * robbiew has sent mail to maintainers..waiting on response...will keep tabs on it 16:26:06 robbiew: should we tag that one with the release tag? 16:26:10 SpamapS: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-juju-charm-testing is that still progressing? 16:26:29 Daviey: actually yes. Just slowly. :-P 16:26:39 SpamapS: likely to make releae? 16:26:51 (nothing there is release schedule tied, is it?) 16:26:57 Daviey: there's really nothing left to put in the release of Ubuntu. Its documentation and test writing. 16:27:07 right 16:27:09 super! 16:27:13 adam_g: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-openstack-charms ? 16:27:22 Daviey: I'm more worried about the juju enhancements than the testing stuff. 16:27:32 But that does seem to be trickling into juju trunk. 16:27:57 Daviey: i'd like to get to the swift charms rewrite this cycel for sure, but thinking the others may need to wait (and are not tied to release schedule anyway) 16:28:05 SpamapS: right! 16:28:29 SpamapS: I know robbiew is aware of Subordinate and Constraint seemingly not ready yet. 16:28:35 Do you know the status of that? 16:28:45 SpamapS: no specific bug yet to tag...just anecdotal information...will get that resolved though ;) 16:29:05 adam_g: ssl migration would be nice.. 16:29:05 Daviey: ack...I believe it's in review still 16:29:42 cool 16:29:53 zul: do we still neen openvswitch in main? 16:30:06 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-openvswitch-mir 16:30:25 Daviey: yeah there some bits in openstack that use it, but i dont think its a priority 16:30:28 Do we need to look at supplementing the MIR team? Would they accept one of us to help with their backlog? 16:30:55 roaksoax: Do you want to speak with aquette about deferring some (most?) of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-cloud-power-management ? 16:31:06 Daviey: will sure do 16:31:09 SpamapS: I've already tried to make progress there. 16:31:48 I think https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-kronos is going to be frozen at current state 16:32:00 SpamapS: CEPH status? 16:32:04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mir/+subscribedbugs .. looks like about 30+ pending review 16:32:08 Daviey: waiting on MIR 16:32:09 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-ceph 16:32:39 Any other blueprint questions? 16:32:55 servercloud-p-cloudutils 16:33:29 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-cloudutils 16:33:40 Medium.. a few TODO's left.. seems a candidate for postponing 16:33:44 Hmm 16:33:52 I'm not sure it's tied to release that? 16:34:04 ubuntu-cloudimg-query ships in Ubuntu 16:34:13 It's mostly implementing API infra, server side? 16:34:29 SpamapS: right, but that can still work with v1 API 16:34:33 utlemming / smoser ? 16:35:21 SpamapS: What is the status of PHP? 16:35:27 at the moment it would appear that ubuntu-cloudimg-query will ship without query2 support. 16:35:39 which is not ideal, but it is functional. 16:35:46 Daviey: ugh 16:35:48 works for me. 16:35:52 the /query interface isnt going away. 16:36:00 Daviey: so, basically *everybody* wants us to ship PHP 5.4.0 16:36:16 Daviey: but we have been firm at sticking with Suhosin .. which is not available yet for 5.4.0 16:36:16 SpamapS: I found on the internets that you were investigating it again 16:36:41 Daviey: Debian dropped Suhosin, but our security team would prefer that we don't. 16:36:48 SpamapS: Is it significant work to port it? 16:37:00 Daviey: so, I'm emailing the Suhosin maintainers asking them for a status update. It was promised 2 months ago. 16:37:01 SpamapS: Have a bug as to where/why Debian dropped it? 16:37:12 Daviey: I can dig it out. Its in the changelog of 5.3.10 16:37:18 ah, ok, thanks 16:37:44 * Daviey passes the steering wheel back to the chair. 16:37:56 alright then. Should we move on then? 16:38:07 [TOPIC] Ubuntu Server Team Events 16:38:29 negronjl is hosting a charm school next Monday, and it looks like I'll be joining him 16:38:46 http://charmschoolsv.eventbrite.com/ 16:38:49 awesome! 16:38:56 At the Santa Clara Hilton 16:39:07 spread the word to all your silicon valley friends. :) 16:39:23 SpamapS: you and jcastro are also hosting a webinar on Thursday (March 8th), correct? 16:39:46 YES 16:39:58 right on! 16:40:03 http://cloud.ubuntu.com/2012/02/juju-charm-school-webinar-march-8th/ 16:40:11 http://www.brighttalk.com/webcast/6793/41933 16:40:29 awesome then. So I guess no more upcoming events. Let's move on 16:40:32 [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) 16:40:35 hggdh: you are up 16:40:43 hi 16:40:50 nothing here for the week 16:40:53 .. 16:40:57 oh 16:41:25 hggdh: you remembered something you'd like to share? 16:41:25 I got an email from Sean asking about the UEC machines; I answered & copied Daviey 16:41:26 .. 16:41:47 alright 16:41:49 * hggdh just wanted to make sure this is known 16:42:00 * Daviey hasn't read this? 16:42:21 you were copied in my reply... routed to /dev/null? ;-) 16:42:22 ah, i see it 16:42:32 alright then. Let's move on 16:42:35 [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) 16:42:36 nah, in my Boring folder :) 16:42:45 smb: ^^ 16:42:47 There is bug 944923 which I could use utlemming's help in trying to gather ec2 info. At least this seemed to be there even with a natty kernel (just without lockup warnings) and I cannot see it in any of my local setups. Then since the upgrade from oneiric to precise on my orchestra box seemed to have gone not that well, I wanted to do some clean install upgrades in Xen VMs, which brought up another issue. It seems pxeboot does not work with 16:42:47 the e1000 emulation. Still digging there but it seems the ipxe rom we have has no pci id info. 16:42:49 Launchpad bug 944923 in linux (Ubuntu) "[EC2:cg1.4xlarge] CPU#0 stuck for 23s! [migration/0:6] __do_softirq+0x60/0x210" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/944923 16:43:04 .. 16:43:21 utlemming: ^^ 16:43:36 smb: sure...lets sync up after 16:43:42 utlemming, ack 16:43:54 alright, unless there's something else you'd like to brin up smb, then we can move on 16:44:02 nope 16:44:04 [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak) 16:44:15 rbasak: you are next 16:44:17 openmpi1.5 packages are now in the archive, alongside openmpi (1.4). Testing from stakeholders would be appreciated, especially as the test suite is not open source. 16:44:17 Nothing else to report. 16:44:19 wait, there was one other thing smb said 16:44:25 for hallyn 16:44:34 e1000 emulation and pxe boot 16:44:43 smb, please open a bug on that. 16:44:58 smoser, sure 16:45:10 smoser, Right now debugging the build 16:45:24 rbasak: so, you have versioned rdepends aswell? 16:45:25 awesome, let's move on 16:45:40 Daviey: no, we made the decision not to do that 16:46:23 [TOPIC] Open Discussion 16:46:24 Daviey: so all rdepends remain linked against openmpi 16:46:37 I think going over http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html should be split into a separate topic. It tends to take the bulk of the meeting so it would make sense to have it separated so that other things associated with the release timetable (FFes etc) can be covered without forgetting anything. 16:47:37 does someone agree/disagree? Daviey ^^? 16:48:19 seems it should at least be a subtopic under precise/current development 16:48:41 along with that it would be nice to have a sub-topic for essential or near milestone blueprints 16:48:42 I'd say so too 16:48:52 roaksoax: you skipped my section 16:49:15 Zentyal Packages (http://pad.lv/928501) - SpamapS 16:49:17 Launchpad bug 928501 in ebox (Ubuntu) "Precise will ship totally broken ebox packages" [Undecided,Confirmed] 16:49:28 [action] add subtopics for release-bugs/BP;s under precise/current development 16:49:28 * meetingology add subtopics for release-bugs/BP;s under precise/current development 16:49:44 SpamapS: sorry about that, was going over the pastable commands 16:49:49 [topic] Zentyal Packages (http://pad.lv/928501) - SpamapS 16:49:57 So anyway, this item has been at the top of the sponsorship queue for a few weeks now 16:50:02 We need to break it up 16:50:24 We should all have patch pilot days coming up.. 16:50:25 SpamapS: they still need multiple src packages? 16:50:32 Daviey: aye 16:50:56 We need to review them, one by one, until they're done. 16:51:03 *awesome* 16:51:10 SpamapS: How many are there? 16:51:14 if they miss NEW for precise, so be it, but Zentyal has been good to us, and we need to do what we can to help get their stuff into Ubuntu 16:51:18 Daviey: 13 I think 16:51:37 https://launchpad.net/~jacalvo/+archive/zentyal-precise/ 16:51:38 SpamapS: perfect, fancy assigning one to each member of the team? 16:51:42 16 16:52:21 Daviey: I'd like to allow people to assign them to themselves.. 16:52:35 Daviey: since some may feel more comfortable with ntp, openvpn, or squid, than others 16:52:35 SpamapS, I'll pickup a few 16:52:42 SpamapS: lets just progress it, it's easier to have someone co-ordinate it 16:52:58 So yeah, please focus your sponsorship efforts on that bug, and make it clear what you are going to review, so others don't duplicate the work. 16:53:06 SpamapS: Really, anyone should be able to turn their hand to any of the technologies it uses. 16:53:19 If they can't, we have problems. :) 16:53:31 indeed 16:54:02 We'll check back in on the progress next week. 16:54:09 that is all, thanks! 16:54:24 awesome then! 16:54:31 [topic] Announce next meeting date and time 16:54:37 SO daylight saving starts Sunday 16:54:57 * justinlw will be on PDT instead of MDT 16:54:58 in the US 16:55:07 So, we are keeping the same UTC time? 16:55:10 for US timezones. Which means that meeting for us will be one more hour 16:55:13 SpamapS: that makes life easier for you? 16:55:16 keep it 16:55:18 do not move it 16:55:27 I will actually be able to attend the first 15 min 16:55:50 So.. keep the same UTC time. 16:55:55 ok so we can keep the same UTC time 16:55:57 So nothing changes for admin. 16:56:08 agreed then. SpamapS So you won't be chairing next week either? 16:56:26 SpamapS is chairing for the next 6 months. 16:56:30 precisely 16:56:33 lol 16:56:34 ;-/ 16:56:38 lol 16:56:56 then i ugess Daviey will be chairing if SpamapS can't make it 16:56:58 if no one volunteers I can do that 16:57:03 I can make it 16:57:11 awesome then! 16:57:14 thanks all for attending 16:57:17 #endmeeting