00:04:56 <cyphermox> #startmeeting Americas Regional Membership Board
00:04:56 <meetingology> Meeting started Fri Feb 17 00:04:56 2012 UTC.  The chair is cyphermox. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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00:05:12 <cyphermox> Hello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board for the Americas meeting for February 16, 2012. The wiki page for the Review Board is available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/Americas
00:05:21 <cyphermox> yay, my date thing worked.
00:05:25 <pleia2> :D
00:05:32 <cyphermox> We will attempt to get through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list before today's meeting. If we are unable to make it through the entire list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off.
00:05:43 <cyphermox> The format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO).
00:05:53 <cyphermox> Each applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions.
00:06:03 <cyphermox> During this time it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote.
00:06:12 <cyphermox> When the board is ready to vote, they will publicly vote in the channel with either +1, 0, or -1 (for membership, abstain, and against membership, respectively). If the sum of those numbers is positive, then the applicant is now an official Ubuntu member! (feel free congratulate them!)
00:06:23 <cyphermox> #voters cyphermox Pendulum pleia2 beuno n0rman greg-g dinda nhandler
00:06:23 <meetingology> Warning: Nick not in channel: dinda
00:06:23 <meetingology> Current voters: Pendulum beuno cyphermox dinda greg-g n0rman nhandler pleia2
00:06:37 <cyphermox> Now, with any further ado, lets get started with the first applicant...
00:06:48 <cyphermox> is kdub here?
00:06:56 <cyphermox> apparently not, my completion failed
00:07:32 <cyphermox> what about caravena ?
00:08:01 <cyphermox> continuing throught the list...
00:08:16 <cyphermox> #subtopic Membership application for Chris Wayne (cwayne)
00:08:24 <cwayne> hi!
00:08:33 <cyphermox> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ChrisWayne
00:08:38 <cwayne> Okay everyone, my name is Chris Wayne (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ChrisWayne)
00:09:16 <cwayne> While I do quite a bit of work for Ubuntu within Canonical (QA'ing platforms that have gone on to ship in the millions around the world) I also contribute to the overall community on my own time
00:09:44 <pleia2> that's great to see :)
00:09:51 <cwayne> I frequent askubuntu answering questions that I'm able, as well as on reddit answering peoples questions, not only technical, but also questions about ubuntu in general
00:10:05 <cwayne> such as (whats coming in the next unity, how is 12.04 alpha looking?, etc)
00:10:24 <lifeless> I'm sorry about my adsl.
00:10:34 <cwayne> i also always use the latest dev release and log bugs, have been logging bugs on unity since maverick
00:11:02 <pleia2> nice
00:11:06 <cwayne> and lastly, i act as sort of an unofficial liason to other communities, such as helping and advocating ubuntu to many in #webos (and am even working on an Ubuntu One webos app on my own time :))
00:11:29 <cwayne> as well as convincing all my friends/acquantinces/family to switch to ubuntu (in fact many of them have :) )
00:12:08 <lifeless> and back, sorry, adsl faaaaail
00:12:20 <lifeless> telecom seem to hate my house midday at the moment
00:12:29 <cwayne> well i guess that's enough about me, unless there's any questions
00:12:38 <pleia2> thanks for having such a thorough wiki page
00:12:40 <lifeless> last I saw was 13:06 < meetingology> Current voters: Pendulum beuno cyphermox dinda greg-g n0rman nhandler pleia2
00:12:58 <cyphermox> lifeless: just a second
00:13:16 <lifeless> catching up via irclogs.u.c
00:13:43 <lifeless> which is out of date ><
00:13:50 <cyphermox> http://paste.ubuntu.com/845187/
00:13:52 <pleia2> lifeless: yeah, it only updates on the hour
00:14:32 <pleia2> cwayne: how do you feel about the current software developer to software center workflow? does it work positively for developers?
00:14:59 <cwayne> pleia2: honestly, i feel it could be more efficient
00:15:35 * pleia2 nods
00:15:40 <cwayne> pleia2: i submitted an app (just a stupid pidgin emoticons theme type deal) and felt there was quite a delay before I heard anything (including whether or not the submission went through correctly)
00:15:57 <pleia2> good to know
00:15:59 <cwayne> pleia2: actually that reminds me, I've also reached out to developers (specifically of lenses) and tried to help them get their apps in the software center :)
00:16:11 <cyphermox> ah, I'll let somebody know about this :)
00:16:34 <pleia2> cwayne: yeah, I snagged that question via your wiki page, it's good to see people out there doing that
00:16:45 <cyphermox> stgraber: if this is still up your alley ^^
00:17:02 * cwayne forgot that was on my page
00:19:38 <cyphermox> #vote Chris Wayne to obtain Ubuntu Membership
00:19:38 <meetingology> Please vote on: Chris Wayne to obtain Ubuntu Membership
00:19:38 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
00:19:43 <pleia2> +1
00:19:43 <meetingology> +1 received from pleia2
00:19:44 <cyphermox> +1
00:19:44 <meetingology> +1 received from cyphermox
00:19:48 <Pendulum> +1
00:19:48 <meetingology> +1 received from Pendulum
00:20:10 <lifeless> heh, I missed the paste before, sorry.
00:20:20 <lifeless> so I'll +0 as an uniformed person, but that won't affect you :)
00:20:21 <lifeless> +0
00:20:32 <pleia2> lifeless: we can wait if you want to take a moment to read it
00:20:35 <lifeless> particularly if meetingology doesn't know I'm a voter yet
00:20:38 <lifeless> ^^
00:20:52 <cyphermox> #voters cyphermox Pendulum pleia2 beuno n0rman greg-g dinda nhandler lifeless
00:20:52 <meetingology> Current voters: Pendulum beuno cyphermox dinda greg-g lifeless n0rman nhandler pleia2
00:21:43 <lifeless> whats your askubuntu userid ?
00:22:00 <cwayne> lifeless: http://askubuntu.com/users/21657/chris-wayne
00:22:47 <lifeless> sure, +1
00:22:49 <lifeless> +1
00:22:49 <meetingology> +1 received from lifeless
00:23:06 <cyphermox> yay
00:23:08 <cyphermox> #endvote
00:23:08 <meetingology> Voting ended on: Chris Wayne to obtain Ubuntu Membership
00:23:08 <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
00:23:08 <meetingology> Motion carried
00:23:10 <pleia2> congrats and welcome cwayne!
00:23:16 <cyphermox> congrats cwayne!
00:23:20 <cwayne> \o/ thank you pleia2!
00:23:25 <cwayne> thanks cyphermox :)
00:23:27 <roadmr> congrats cwayne!
00:23:38 <Pendulum> cwayne: congrats!
00:23:41 <chilicui1> congrats cwayne =)
00:23:42 <cyphermox> #subtopic Membership application for Daniel Manrique (roadmr)
00:23:47 <cwayne> thanks roadmr lifeless and Pendulum :)
00:23:47 <cyphermox> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DanielManrique
00:24:07 <roadmr> Hello!
00:24:18 <roadmr> I'm Daniel, a.k.a. roadmr (short for Roadmaster). My wiki page http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DanielManrique
00:24:33 <roadmr> I'm a long-time Linux user, I started using (and got involved with) Ubuntu a few years ago. I've been working for Canonical for a bit over a year, so I get to tinker with Ubuntu on a daily basis.
00:24:55 <roadmr> I try to help the project and community in various ways, such as answering questions, triaging and fixing bugs, translating, and anything I may be of assistance with. I'm also very involved with the Ubuntu Friendly community testing program and the related checkbox System Testing utility.
00:25:34 <pleia2> how is Ubuntu Friendly going?
00:26:02 <roadmr> pleia2: We see the most submissions right after release time, it's an asymptotic decrease
00:26:30 <roadmr> pleia2: we are looking into ways of making testing more interesting/fun, which we hope will make more test submissions come in over time
00:26:37 * pleia2 nods
00:26:42 <roadmr> Back in the early days I was heavily into Linux evangelism; I scaled back over the years, but recently I started getting a bit more involved, which has been great, as I like to help a "new generation" of Ubuntu and Linux users get the most out of free software.
00:26:48 <pleia2> it's a great project, I'm really glad we have it now
00:27:04 <roadmr> So that's me! I'll be glad to answer any questions you may have.
00:27:23 <roadmr> pleia2: yes! there's still room for improvement, do expect some new things coming in 12.04 ;)
00:27:34 <pleia2> thanks for such a thorough wiki page
00:28:23 <cyphermox> #vote Daniel Manrique to obtain Ubuntu Membership
00:28:23 <meetingology> Please vote on: Daniel Manrique to obtain Ubuntu Membership
00:28:23 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
00:28:56 <cyphermox> +1  keep it up!
00:28:56 <meetingology> +1  keep it up! received from cyphermox
00:29:00 <Pendulum> +1
00:29:00 <meetingology> +1 received from Pendulum
00:29:08 <pleia2> +1
00:29:08 <meetingology> +1 received from pleia2
00:29:23 <lifeless> +1
00:29:23 <meetingology> +1 received from lifeless
00:29:34 <cyphermox> #endvote
00:29:34 <meetingology> Voting ended on: Daniel Manrique to obtain Ubuntu Membership
00:29:34 <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
00:29:34 <meetingology> Motion carried
00:29:48 <cyphermox> congratulations roadmr!
00:29:56 <chilicui1> yeeei roadmr =)
00:29:59 <Pendulum> congrats roadmr!
00:29:59 <roadmr> Awesome :D thanks!
00:30:08 <cwayne> hey congrats roadmr :)
00:30:08 <pleia2> congrats and welcome roadmr :)
00:30:15 <roadmr> thanks cwayne, pleia2, cyphermox, Pendulum! Gracias chilicui1 !
00:30:34 <cyphermox> #subtopic Membership application for Javier Lopez (chilicui1)
00:30:38 <cyphermox> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/~chilicuil
00:30:57 <chilicui1> hi there, my name is Javier Lopez, aka chilicuil, I've been using ubuntu for 6 years now
00:31:36 <chilicui1> I try to help when I can, notably when the average joe user (which in my opinion I'm part of it)
00:32:13 <chilicui1> ehh, I work as a sysadmin in high school, where we've set up ubuntu as the main os
00:32:42 <chilicui1> every 2 cicles I go crazy and give cd away to people in parks, zoo's or any public place
00:32:51 <pleia2> always nice to see more folks deploying ubuntu in schools :)
00:33:18 <chilicui1> I'm also organizating (not sure if it's the correct word) local UGJ
00:33:27 * pleia2 is browsing the photos
00:33:34 <pleia2> very nice!
00:33:42 <pleia2> planning one this time too?
00:33:47 <cyphermox> indeed, this is great
00:34:01 <chilicui1> pleia2: yep =)
00:34:04 <pleia2> great!
00:34:35 <chilicui1> u can find me in #ubuntu-es where I have a possition as op, I try to help as much as i can
00:35:36 <chilicui1> u can see the rest in my blog and in the wiki
00:35:55 <pleia2> nice to see your work with Dia del Usuario Ubuntu too :)
00:36:28 <pleia2> hehe "Hug dholbach"
00:36:43 <chilicui1> yep, that's my main target in ubuntu
00:36:58 <cyphermox> chilicui1: can be arranged :)
00:37:13 <pleia2> hope you can make it up to a UDS soon (next one is in California)
00:37:19 <chilicui1> jojojo, I'd prefer to take it by suprise, }=)
00:37:24 <pleia2> lol
00:37:50 <chilicui1> pleia2: I'd like for I guess I wont make it this time, maybe the next one
00:37:56 <chilicui1> but*
00:38:00 * pleia2 nods
00:38:06 <cyphermox> #vote chilicui1 to obtain Ubuntu Membership
00:38:06 <meetingology> Please vote on: chilicui1 to obtain Ubuntu Membership
00:38:06 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
00:38:09 <pleia2> +1
00:38:09 <meetingology> +1 received from pleia2
00:38:10 <lifeless> +1
00:38:10 <meetingology> +1 received from lifeless
00:38:10 <cyphermox> +1
00:38:10 <meetingology> +1 received from cyphermox
00:38:24 <chilicui1> oWo
00:38:47 <chilicui1> T____T I'll record this day for a long time
00:38:54 <pleia2> :)
00:38:58 <pleia2> much deserved
00:39:08 <pleia2> Pendulum?
00:39:11 <Pendulum> +1
00:39:11 <meetingology> +1 received from Pendulum
00:39:35 <cyphermox> #endvote
00:39:35 <meetingology> Voting ended on: chilicui1 to obtain Ubuntu Membership
00:39:35 <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
00:39:35 <meetingology> Motion carried
00:39:37 <pleia2> congrats, chilicui1! welcome!
00:39:48 <chilicui1> woowow, amaziiiiing!, thanks!
00:39:52 <Pendulum> chilicui1: congrats!
00:39:53 <roadmr> chilicui1: Congrats! Felicidades!
00:39:59 <chilicui1> roadmr: gracias ;)
00:40:17 <cyphermox> #subtopic Membership application for Paul Belanger (pabelanger)
00:40:20 <cyphermox> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PaulBelanger
00:40:26 <pabelanger> ohai!
00:40:29 <cyphermox> hey!
00:40:42 <cyphermox> a fellow canadian
00:40:48 <pabelanger> My name is Paul Belanger, as the link says.  My wiki page is located at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PaulBelanger
00:40:54 <pabelanger> No doubt about it
00:42:08 <pleia2> so, how good are you at debugging digium card problems? ;)
00:42:24 <pabelanger> I'm currently an open source developer for the Asterisk project.  My goal is to help maintain the asterisk packages within ubuntu.  I help out triaging issue and providing patches when I can.  Additionally I've been helping with 12.04 recently with nagios, dahdi, puppet and nsca
00:42:50 <pabelanger> pleia2: good, my back ground is telecommunications.  So looking at a debug log for that is not an issue
00:43:26 <pleia2> I don't actually know the status if asterisk in Ubuntu (I do use it in Debian)
00:43:48 <pabelanger> As from that, my next tasks are automation with puppet and openstack
00:44:12 <pabelanger> pleia2: I actually help tzafrir on the pkg-voip team
00:45:04 <pabelanger> Plus the obligatory helping people to start using Ubuntu for Desktop and Server environments
00:46:01 <pabelanger> I'm happy to answer any questions too
00:46:39 <pleia2> pabelanger: there don't happen to be any folks you've worked with in the Ubuntu community here, are there?
00:46:49 <pleia2> it would be nice to see some testimonials from them
00:47:20 <pabelanger> Mostly people in ubuntu-motu that helped me upload the packages
00:47:27 <pabelanger> sponsorship
00:48:33 <pabelanger> Guess I should have linked http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2012/02/16/ubuntu-12-04-development-update-14/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=ubuntu-12-04-development-update-14 to my wiki too, but only found that a few hours aog
00:48:35 <pabelanger> ago*
00:49:00 <pabelanger> Under the 'First timers!' section
00:49:23 <pleia2> cool
00:49:40 <cyphermox> oh, nice!
00:52:36 <pleia2> pabelanger: you clearly do a lot of really great work with open source (I use asterisk and nagios, so it's appreciated!) but I'd really like to see you move forward with involved with the Ubuntu-VoIP team and get some testimonials from developers you're working with in the Ubuntu community
00:54:01 <pabelanger> I'm not sure who else to get involved with, since I appear to be the only person that will triage the issues for asterisk / dahdi.
00:54:32 <broder> have you run into superm1 at all? i know he has a lot of blog posts about asterisk configuration; don't know whether he does any packaging maintenance
00:54:33 <pabelanger> Like you mentioned, the Ubuntu-voip teams seems to be small / no active.  So, I'm just trying to help get it started
00:55:03 <cyphermox> I'd have to agree to that, your involvement seems very development centric / related to bug triaage and such; so I'd possibly suggest working some more on that aspect, do a few more uploads and apply for Per-package upload rights before the Developer Membership Board.
00:55:27 <pleia2> (Developer Membership Board gets you Ubuntu Membership too)
00:55:27 <cyphermox> pabelanger: it doesn't have to be the Ubuntu-VoIP team, anyone can probably sponsor packages for you
00:55:43 <pabelanger> broder: sadly no.  Most of my currently business is providing asterisk solutions on Ubuntu so I would be interested in seeing his work
00:55:52 <cyphermox> so if you want to revive the ubuntu-voip team that's also great (we need good telephony)
00:56:31 <pabelanger> So, I should be applying to the Developer Membership Board first, before this board?
00:56:50 <pleia2> if you apply to the dev membership board you don't need to apply here
00:57:11 <pleia2> I'd suggest going that route, since we don't really have the capacity to properly judge your packaging contributions
00:57:20 <cyphermox> right. but they look for different things, but it seems like you've already well started involvement with teh Debian team, and some other uploads
00:58:25 <pabelanger> I see, figured getting Ubuntu Membership first before applying to Developer Membership Board would be the preferred route
00:58:57 <cyphermox> pabelanger: right
00:59:20 <pleia2> yeah, no need to do that, dev membership includes ubuntu membership so with that you're all good
00:59:40 <cyphermox> pabelanger: since we're in the same timezone feel free to ping me when you want if you have things to sponsor, I'll see how I can help (though that's normally not the kind of packages I focus on)
01:00:19 <pabelanger> Okay then, feel free to -1 me and I'll do the Development Membership route
01:00:21 <pabelanger> cyphermox: will do
01:00:51 <cyphermox> OTOH, if you're interested in doing differently focused work in the community, I don't think there are still Ubuntu Hours in Ottawa, and we in Ubuntu-QC have been itching for a reason to visit for a while :)
01:01:34 * pabelanger nods
01:01:40 <cyphermox> pabelanger: in this particular case we don't need to vote
01:01:58 <pabelanger> I'm trying to review the asterisk user group, and start a openstack one too.  I'm sure we'll cross paths
01:02:09 <cyphermox> there are no other applicants and we're out of time so I think we'll end this meeting now
01:02:18 <pangolin> I +1 cyphermox' idea about visiting a ottawa UH
01:02:20 <cyphermox> pabelanger: awesome.
01:02:37 <cyphermox> pangolin: yeah, you'll clearly be coming with us to visit in the summer :)
01:02:44 <cyphermox> #endmeeting