16:04:53 #startmeeting Ubuntu Server Team Meeting 16:04:53 Meeting started Tue Dec 13 16:04:53 2011 UTC. The chair is utlemming. 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Guess I need to file a bug with fix there then 16:22:38 i'd like to think they lost interest bc the s/nfs4/nfs/ fix worked for them locally :) 16:23:00 hallyn_, My guess too :) 16:23:04 ok - i'm not 100% clear how you'd do the debdiff, do you mind doing it? 16:23:36 hallyn_, I would not mind. Can take a bit of time though 16:23:52 my only working day this year is Thursday. :-P 16:24:36 adam_g: bug 862558 16:24:37 Launchpad bug 862558 in cobbler-enlist (Ubuntu Oneiric) "cobbler-enlist is not checking for return codes enough" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/862558 16:25:26 no adam_g? 16:25:47 back to zul then: bug 871278 16:25:48 Launchpad bug 871278 in nova (Ubuntu Precise) "Cannot attach volumes to instances if tgt is used" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/871278 16:26:01 utlemming: working on that now 16:26:10 or trying to 16:26:35 ouch 16:26:44 utlemming: cobbler-enlist is undergoing quite a few revisions, so that bug may become moot in the near future. 16:26:59 okay, good to know 16:27:11 koolhead: how is bug 890362 moving along? 16:27:12 Launchpad bug 890362 in nova (Ubuntu) "Should glance user's shell be /bin/false?" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/890362 16:27:42 i thought adam_g had a merge proposal for tath 16:27:55 it got merged and uploaded 16:28:25 yeah... but the nova task is still open 16:28:38 apparently, "should glance user's shell be /bin/false" also affects nova 16:28:54 i'm assuming someone thinks' nova's shell should be /bin/false also 16:29:27 utlemming: bug 891433 16:29:28 Launchpad bug 891433 in squid3 (Ubuntu) "squid3 miss_access bug, fix not included in LTS" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/891433 16:29:38 I need to put in the merge proposal, but otherwise its fixed 16:31:29 RoAkSoAx: bug 898840 16:31:31 Launchpad bug 898840 in cobbler (Ubuntu) "'default' preseed should be enlister" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/898840 16:32:58 okay 16:33:04 finally...I think we're through the list 16:33:15 does anyone else have Precise Development topics? 16:33:40 #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events 16:33:47 any topics here? 16:33:57 SCALE10X 16:34:07 http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/ 16:34:20 Jorge Castro and I will be presenting, and there will be a Juju Charm School on Friday! 16:34:59 ALso there is a CFP for Velocity out 16:35:38 Moving on then... 16:35:41 #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) 16:35:53 hggdh, ? 16:36:06 Last bit, get your talks submitted: http://velocityconf.com/velocity2012 16:36:41 no hggdh...so well move on then 16:36:43 #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) 16:36:53 #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) 16:36:56 * hggdh is here 16:37:04 The fix for the thing that required idle=halt on ec2 has been fixed upstream and in latest precise. 16:37:17 Im currently trying to bisect bug 901305 16:37:19 Launchpad bug 901305 in linux (Ubuntu) "precise fails boot on ec2 hvm" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/901305 16:37:37 Unfortunately I ended up on something unreasonable on first run 16:37:51 Not sure I did something wrong or what happened. So I go again 16:37:53 .. 16:38:45 smb, the other thing on your list is the atop bug. 16:39:04 which seems fairly iportant for 11.10 even though its fix-released in precise already. 16:39:08 smoser, right. That one seems only to happen on ec2 16:39:18 oh... 16:39:24 Not in my test system 16:39:32 are you convinced that it is fix-released in precise ? 16:39:36 or was i just lucky 16:39:46 Thats why I asked whether people know which xen version that instance got 16:40:19 So when trying first grep for dmseg|grep Xen and note the Xen version 16:40:25 right. 16:40:38 well.. i'll launch a bunch of instances later and see what i find. 16:40:48 smoser, Thanks a lot 16:41:07 smb: anything else? 16:41:18 not from here.. 16:41:25 okay, hggdh, back to you 16:41:36 hggdh, do you have anything for us? 16:41:59 utlemming: just some questions: 16:42:25 (1) is cloud-init on Lucid expected to work with Cobbler on Oneiric? If so, we have a bug 16:42:59 (2) are you all good on the QA resources? 16:43:34 cobbler will not work with version of cloud-init in lucid. 16:43:59 smoser: ah, thank you. So we need to adjust the cobbler setup on the Lab 16:44:13 as cobbler uses /var/lib/cloud/nocloud/seed which i think only exists in at earliest maverick. 16:44:28 but the cloud-init stufff is only used for juju i think. 16:44:30 right? 16:45:04 I think it is needed for cobbler commands, like reboot, is it not? 16:45:43 no 16:45:46 not that i'm aware of 16:45:48 but i could be wrong 16:45:53 hggdh: it is only used in first-boot config stuff 16:46:13 i was not aware of anything that did power control other than "real power control" (ie, lights-out or ipmi or something) 16:46:47 OK. will check more carefully. Right now I know I cannot reboot via cobbler on Lucid 16:46:53 thank you 16:46:56 .. 16:47:22 hggdh: cobbler doesn't have the ability to "reboot" stuff AFAIK, only to turn the power off/on. 16:48:23 anything else here? 16:48:36 SpamapS: heh. RTFM seems to be needed for me, then. I based myself on the cobbler URL 16:48:41 nope, I am done 16:48:50 #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (NCommander) 16:48:58 NCommander, ? 16:49:02 Not much to say 16:49:16 Mostly waiting on hardware (not sure how much I can sya behond that) 16:49:19 armhf seems to be moving along nicely 16:49:22 armhf bootstrap is proceeding nicely 16:49:25 bah, ninja'ed 16:49:30 JINX 16:49:44 Okay then... 16:49:46 #topic Weekly Updates & Questions from the Ubuntu Community 16:49:46 fortunately, that only applies to speaking, not typing ;-) 16:49:50 anyway, done 16:50:13 Anyone have anything from or for our fine community of users? 16:50:40 I will take that as a no... 16:50:42 #topic Open Discussion 16:50:52 Any open discussion topics? 16:51:08 Santa is coming 16:51:28 I think we should eliminate the "Community" topic. It implies that there are people here at the meeting who are not in the community. 16:51:48 SpamapS: +1 16:51:50 +1 16:52:11 i'm not in the community 16:52:18 you ARE the community 16:52:19 ignore me. 16:52:20 We can table it until January though, since we are already missing quite a few who may have strong opinions on that. 16:52:29 But it just ocurred to me. 16:52:29 #action invite smoser into the community 16:52:29 * meetingology invite smoser into the community 16:52:35 NICE 16:52:40 lol 16:52:45 Another thing that I noticed.. meeting minutes not going out... ??? 16:52:54 i did not send them out. 16:52:56 :-( 16:52:57 fail. 16:53:02 i can do that. i just didn't get to it. 16:53:04 they are supposed to 16:53:06 The bot like, generates them automatically.. so is there any reason they're not going out to ubuntu-devel and ubuntu-server ? 16:53:21 where does it generate them to ? 16:54:25 * rbasak wonders if adam_g and RoAkSoAx are DST-induced laggards 16:54:25 smoser: meetingology help page explains it 16:54:46 rbasak: adam_g most likely yes.. RoAkSoAx is in EDT , so he has no excuse. ;) 16:55:05 isn't adam_g in Oregon? 16:55:39 okay, lets call this 16:55:41 yes 16:55:42 #Announce next meeting date and time 16:55:54 fwiw, i'm not seeing in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology where minutes are kept. 16:56:07 Speaking of DST, Google Calendar doesn't seem to support UTC times for meetings - but it's been pointed out to me that if you specify Reykjavik then meetings will be pegged to UTC 16:56:10 and if they *are* kept somewhere, then personally, i dont see a lot of reason to manually email them to some mailing lists. 16:56:16 rbasak: huh? 16:56:35 yes it does...you just have to have UTC as your default TZ 16:56:45 smoser: #endmeeting sends you the link, IIRC 16:56:48 smoser: I'd like to do either m-l or blog, not both 16:57:27 hallyn_: there's a script that does it automatically 16:57:45 so everyone says 16:58:12 lp:~clint-fewbar/+junk/ubuntuserver-minutes/ 16:58:31 Used to be mentioned in the "how to write the minutes" page in the serverteam KB 16:59:10 SpamapS: I'll try it next week, thx 16:59:13 https://code.launchpad.net/~clint-fewbar/+junk/ubuntuserver-minutes/ 16:59:34 utlemming: endmeeting? 16:59:35 Tuesday 2011-12-20 at 1600 UTC - #ubuntu-meeting 16:59:38 #endmeeting