16:01:20 #startmeeting 16:01:20 Meeting started Tue Nov 29 16:01:20 2011 UTC. The chair is Ursinha. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot. 16:01:20 16:01:20 Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 16:01:36 hello people, this is the first time I chair this meeting, so be nice to me :) 16:01:41 #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting 16:01:54 so, according to last week's logs there is none. 16:02:01 moving on 16:02:03 #topic Precise Development 16:02:19 boo! 16:02:26 Daviey: and now.... 16:02:33 Hello! 16:02:45 Alpha 1 is out this week, meaning we are in soft freeze 16:03:04 So far we are looking pretty stable, infact, possibly the most stable Alpha1 we've had for some releases 16:03:25 I'd like to go through our targetted bugs for this week: 16:03:40 bug 883988 16:03:42 Launchpad bug 883988 in glance (Ubuntu Precise) "package glance 2011.3-0ubuntu4 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/883988 16:03:44 zul: Is this impacting upgrades still? 16:03:57 dont think so 16:04:15 i havent been able to reproduce it 16:04:44 zul: We probably need to test oneiric -> precise upgrades to see the situation. 16:04:44 bug 893926 16:04:46 Launchpad bug 893926 in eucalyptus (Ubuntu) "Contains traces of UEC" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/893926 16:04:54 Up for grabs, mostly bitesize - removing branding and image-store.. any takers? 16:05:14 Grab it if you want it. 16:05:18 bug 881903 16:05:19 Launchpad bug 881903 in lxc (Ubuntu) "lxc-fedora template is broken" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/881903 16:05:31 hallyn: awaiting new upstream version, do we have an idea when? 16:06:16 nope 16:06:24 bug 888124 , jamespage - is this on the soonly roadmap for you, or up for grabs? 16:06:26 Launchpad bug 888124 in excalibur-logkit (Ubuntu) "excalibur-logkit version 2.0-8 failed to build with openjdk-7" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/888124 16:06:52 hm, i think new version was quietly tagged! 16:06:55 will check it out this afternoon 16:07:03 bug 607039 , Still up for grabs.. probably requires some time to reproduce. 16:07:04 Launchpad bug 607039 in nfs-utils (Ubuntu) "NFS4 automount using replicated servers doesn't work" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/607039 16:07:07 hallyn: dandy 16:07:09 oh, nope 16:07:10 Daviey: on my list 16:07:20 but not mega urgent ATM 16:07:20 jamespage: great 16:07:26 Actually 16:07:36 bug 894713 , most certainly bitesize.. open to offers, highest bidder? 16:07:37 Launchpad bug 894713 in xen (Ubuntu) "xend init script should modprobe xen_gntdev" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/894713 16:07:38 This is sort of user error but a long way 16:07:49 Daviey, Sorry that was for the nfs4 bug 16:08:03 smb: oh? 16:08:04 alexbligh: does ^^ that one interest you? :) 16:08:13 Yep. 16:08:18 We've fixed that here. 16:08:20 Want a patch? 16:08:25 smb: right, sorry for moving a bit quick.. trying to get through them.. i don't mind interupting 16:08:28 Daviey, basically trying to use fstype nfs4 uses mount.nfs4 whch tries to use modprobe nfs4 16:08:32 which does not exist 16:08:47 Daviey, oh, I already sent a patch :-) 16:08:52 but basically using fstype nfs also gives you an nfs4 mount 16:09:06 alexbligh: certainly, if you want to provide a debian/changelog entry aswell and a debdiff, we'll get it sponsored quickly :) 16:09:12 and according to upstream users should be encouraged to use nfs as fstype 16:09:20 just not that this is told anywhere 16:09:24 rather the opposite 16:09:30 alexbligh: if not, we'll JFDI based on your patch 16:09:49 JFDI would be easier as I'll have to master debdiff etc. first :-) 16:09:51 smb: Oh great! I didn't know that :) 16:10:15 Daviey, Just got that answer today 16:10:29 smb: could i ask that you throw that as a comment on the bug report, and consider marking it invalid? 16:10:29 alexbligh: sounds good, thanks 16:10:34 smb: Great! 16:10:40 bug 833499 , new one to me 16:10:41 Launchpad bug 833499 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "virt/disk.py unconditionally inserts public_keys into /root/.ssh/authorized_keys" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/833499 16:10:43 Daviey, Yes 16:11:12 smoser: something needs fixing in nova? 16:11:46 reading up 16:12:10 generally i think its broken behavior in openstack. but cloud-init un-does their insertion of keys for newer images. 16:12:14 why did this make your list ? 16:12:17 bug 889644 , being worked on in Debian.. Wait out on that 16:12:18 Launchpad bug 889644 in openmpi (Ubuntu) "Please update OpenMPI to the 1.5 upstream version" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/889644 16:12:26 bug 887186 16:12:27 Launchpad bug 887186 in orchestra (Ubuntu) "squid proxy big and small buckets not functioning correctly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/887186 16:12:50 adam_g / RoAkSoAx: is that somethuing you were looking ay? 16:12:50 at? 16:13:01 Daviey: thats new to me 16:13:17 smoser reported it, guess he is chasing it 16:13:30 i'm not chasing. 16:13:42 the bug report should be fairly straight forward. 16:13:44 adam_g: okay, we'll dig into that after the meeting 16:13:49 basically our squid proxy is not working as designed. 16:14:10 bug 893134 , zul - fixed in Precise, right? 16:14:12 Launchpad bug 893134 in swift (Ubuntu) "swauth required for auth in diablo" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/893134 16:14:36 yeah uploaded yesterday still waiting for archive admin review 16:14:38 .. a few cobbler-enlist bugs, blocked on further direction. .. 16:14:49 zul: bug 871278 ? 16:14:50 Launchpad bug 871278 in nova (Ubuntu Precise) "Cannot attach volumes to instances if tgt is used" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/871278 16:14:56 gah.. 16:15:04 will get to it this week 16:15:20 bug 875262 , I think needs a new assignee.. open to offers. 16:15:21 Launchpad bug 875262 in php5 (Ubuntu Oneiric) "PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/sqlite.so'" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/875262 16:15:40 bug 875262 , awaiting clariffication from reporter 16:16:10 an no, been more update.. Clint isn't here.. I'm sure he'll look at it today 16:16:37 bug 890362 , zul - next upload? 16:16:38 Launchpad bug 890362 in nova (Ubuntu) "Should glance user's shell be /bin/false?" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/890362 16:16:46 yep 16:16:47 utlemming: been able to look at bug 891433 ? 16:16:48 Launchpad bug 891433 in squid3 (Ubuntu) "squid3 miss_access bug, fix not included in LTS" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/891433 16:17:10 Daviey: yup, its done, just need to test it 16:17:39 utlemming: rocking 16:17:41 bug 894754 16:17:41 open to offers 16:17:41 hallyn: any news on bug 876768 ? 16:17:42 Launchpad bug 894754 in openvswitch (Ubuntu) "openvswitch_mod module not found" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/894754 16:17:43 Launchpad bug 876768 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] netcf" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/876768 16:18:24 ill take the openvswitch 16:18:35 bug 891977, assigned to me - packages in PPA.. needs some polish and policy (debian/copyright , debian/control) etc. 16:18:37 Launchpad bug 891977 in cobbler (Ubuntu) "cobbler-web package still contain traces of Ubuntu branding" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/891977 16:19:01 Any other bugs not being tracked, which should be? 16:20:06 jdstrand: any news on bug 881464 ? 16:20:07 Launchpad bug 881464 in keystone (Ubuntu) "[MIR] keystone" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/881464 16:20:24 Daviey: fwiw i'd never heard of that bug. 16:20:46 hallyn: which one? 16:21:07 openvswitch 16:21:27 bug 855030 should be added to your list (i just added it) 16:21:27 zul: keystone MIR, doko has found more goodies which need love, did you spot that? 16:21:28 Launchpad bug 855030 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Encountering sporadic AMQPChannelException" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/855030 16:21:34 where do you look for bugs to fix? 16:21:38 Ursinha: we can probably move on, and carry this on at the end if required. 16:21:44 oh, you were asking about netcf. no, no news. AFAIK i'm done with it 16:21:46 Daviey: i saw im not the one doing the MIR 16:21:47 http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html 16:21:52 hallyn: great 16:22:04 Daviey: I ask because sometimes people don't know about the bugs you point them 16:22:12 Daviey: i think we may have to sneak it into ubuntu without waiting for debian. 16:22:13 Ursinha: right 16:22:37 (smoser, thanks for adding that one) 16:22:51 hallyn: yep, lets discuss it after the meeting 16:22:56 ok, so we can move on 16:22:58 Ursinha: shall we move on? 16:22:59 +1 16:23:06 #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events 16:23:15 anything happening in December? 16:23:31 besides Christmas 16:23:40 new years? 16:23:42 Thankfully, no :) 16:23:44 :P 16:23:47 moving on then 16:23:49 robbiew is attending LISA, doing a BoF session on juju 16:23:50 #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) 16:23:57 indeed I am 16:24:12 oh, right 16:24:22 anyone else? 16:24:42 hggdh is not around, it seems 16:24:44 hggdh isn't around, is there anyone else from the QA team who can stand in? 16:24:46 shall we move one? 16:24:49 *on 16:24:52 Ursinha: please 16:24:57 right sir 16:25:00 #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) 16:25:08 I only had nfs4 and there is bug 886521 from alexbligh 16:25:09 Launchpad bug 886521 in linux (Ubuntu Oneiric) "CONFIG_XEN_PLATFORM_PCI should be "y" when building 3.1 kernel" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/886521 16:25:31 smb meet alexbligh, alexbligh meet smb 16:25:36 I think we agree on trying to get those build-in 16:25:41 we think that is Oneiric and Natty 16:25:46 dcrisan has tested 16:26:02 right 16:26:24 anything else? 16:26:34 smb, have put a patch in 16:26:35 So we will go forward and propose SRU for O and N 16:26:50 thnkx 16:27:15 ..? 16:27:21 * smb is done 16:27:22 .,. 16:27:23 .. 16:27:23 utlemming / smoser: As bug 881076 now has a work around, is it now a Low priority bug? 16:27:25 Launchpad bug 881076 in linux (Ubuntu) "precise kernels do not boot on ec2 without idle=halt" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/881076 16:27:54 But reminds me to see what happened upstream 16:28:14 if low priority means not going to be fixed, no. 16:28:23 it needs to be fixed correctly. 16:28:25 smoser, thats not true 16:28:39 I meam of lesser importance compared to other priorities :) 16:29:05 images boot on all types, so thats good. 16:29:15 but we i dont want that work around. 16:29:16 smoser, The problem is that upstream is not sure what proper means 16:29:24 smb, yeah, and thats fine. 16:29:29 but we can't ship 12.04 with that work around. 16:29:47 so as long as that is understood, i dont care what its priority is. 16:29:56 Yes, I'll need to poke upsrteam again (and about another patch too) 16:30:02 regardless of prio 16:30:27 smb, smoser: I think medium is a good prio if we are going to debate it. 16:30:38 * smb agrees 16:30:40 i think it should be named flowerpuff. 16:30:45 lets move on. 16:30:48 In looking at it, I think that RH had a similar issue too 16:31:04 smb: I'll look it up and ping you if its a match 16:31:14 smoser: what is the badness attached to that workaround? 16:31:43 utlemming, sounds good and likely they do as the acpi rework causes mwait to be used on some machines 16:31:47 Daviey, the badness is we have to boot on ec2 with some specific kernel command line. 16:32:00 which is silly, and also gives hiccups on grub upgrade. 16:32:48 the upgrade is where I have heartburn 16:33:04 ok 16:33:10 anything else for kernel? 16:33:17 alexbligh: Have you concerns addressed? 16:33:44 Daviey, yes, save that building in those modules will make an upgrade from lucid to natty-backports tricky 16:33:53 but I don't see anyway around that 16:34:04 :( 16:34:10 hmm 16:34:25 Upgrading from lucid to natty-backports wouldn't happen in one effort. 16:34:31 Precise is PV device only, Lucid is non-PV device only, so it will happen at some point whatever. 16:34:52 ahh 16:34:59 I see. 16:35:12 lucid kernel upgrades are going ot be fun all around. 16:35:14 (and the current upgrade to backports gives an unbootable system) 16:35:27 okay.. we'll try to think of a way of making it painless as possible 16:35:28 (so it's better than that) 16:35:32 but some pain expected, we think. 16:35:36 aha 16:35:48 ty all for your efforts with this Xen4 stuff 16:35:54 okay, Thanks smb ! 16:36:16 smb: Alpha 1 kernel is looking dandy from my PoV :) 16:36:31 Ursinha: shall we? 16:36:34 Daviey, cool 16:36:39 yes sir 16:36:46 #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (NCommander) 16:36:55 NCommander: hello 16:37:06 Hola 16:37:18 NCommander: How is ARM server looking? 16:37:26 sorry, internet just blinked for a moment 16:37:49 We've got armhf bootstrapped and initial builds are running through now 16:38:26 There will a *ton* of FTBFS's on armhf, so I encourage everyone to take a look at and see what failures you may encounter 16:38:45 feel free to ping me, ogra_, or any member of the Ubuntu ARM team in #ubuntu-arm 16:39:13 ..? 16:39:17 qa.ubuntuwire.org/ftbfs/primary-precise-armhf.html 16:39:20 NCommander: How are all the spec's and blueprints looking? 16:39:37 Daviey, i think 99% of them wait for hardware 16:39:43 which we dont have 16:39:45 wow ogra_, that url is bad news :) 16:39:54 bad news ? 16:39:56 why ? 16:40:00 what ogra said 16:40:04 we only started building today 16:40:10 ogra_: yeah, thought as much :( 16:40:10 ogra_: lots of FTBFS's 16:40:27 Daviey: still in the bootstrap phase 16:40:28 five or so yet 16:40:32 golly. :) 16:40:36 Daviey, yellow isnt failing 16:40:39 rsalveti: Ah, so things might improve? 16:40:40 red is 16:40:50 Daviey: quite a lot, once the basic set of packages are in place 16:40:51 (on there own?) 16:40:54 Ahh 16:41:07 yellow means "Package is waiting on another package" 16:41:18 I see, dep waiting 16:41:18 Goody! 16:41:23 but yeah, we will have lots of failures 16:41:27 right 16:41:35 and many package sets that require give-back in the right order etc 16:41:36 maybe good for alpha 2 :-) 16:41:37 Anything else for arm server? 16:41:43 Anything arm server wants to raise? 16:41:59 apart from the fact that we are largely blocked ? 16:42:00 if so, please sign you're done with .. 16:42:03 nothing :) 16:42:05 .. 16:42:07 done 16:42:09 :-) 16:42:11 awesome 16:42:14 moving on Daviey? 16:42:30 ogra_: thanks 16:42:35 Ursinha: your the boss :) 16:42:36 moving on 16:42:39 #topic Weekly Updates & Questions from the Ubuntu Community 16:43:12 We have a new mcollective on precise, this package is a merge from the debian package, incorporating again mcollective-middleware, this will be ported upstream to debian soon 16:43:15 anyone wants to share? 16:43:24 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mcollective/1.2.1+dfsg-2ubuntu1 16:43:40 Also there's an mcollective SRU for Oneiric that has been reviewed by jamespage, just waiting for upload 16:43:49 bug 884908 16:43:50 lynxman: nice work! 16:43:51 Launchpad bug 884908 in mcollective (Ubuntu Oneiric) "Package dependencies need work" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/884908 16:44:12 Daviey: thank you kindly sir 16:44:17 ..? 16:44:30 anyone else? 16:44:42 all right :) 16:44:45 #topic Open Discussion 16:45:12 im hungry 16:45:24 2 16:45:36 me too 16:45:44 we can discuss later 16:45:45 * lynxman prepares a burrito stand 16:45:46 #topic Announce next meeting date and time 16:45:57 so, same time, December 6th 16:46:06 who's volunteering for chair? 16:46:34 Daviey, smoser, jamespage, others? 16:46:57 the order is in the meeting page, actually. 16:46:59 i didn't realize there was a volunteer opportunity. 16:47:04 lol 16:47:06 smoser: your time to shine! 16:47:19 i will volunteer lynxman 16:47:28 :) 16:47:33 smoser: cool 16:47:33 thanks Ursinha ! 16:47:40 #endmeeting