17:03:20 #startmeeting Ubuntu QA Team 17:03:20 Meeting started Wed Sep 28 17:03:20 2011 UTC. The chair is jibel. 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17:06:08 I created a wiki and added one item as an example 17:06:12 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/AutomatedTesting/CommunityFeedback 17:06:26 yay 17:06:31 I will be adding more stuff and it would be good to start getting feedback from other people too 17:06:40 o/ 17:06:41 this is your chance to complain big time! 17:07:32 charlie-tca, we are all ears 17:07:36 yep 17:07:51 gema: I reviewed the testing doc, but I think I forgot to send the email 17:07:59 It looks good to get started 17:08:05 ok 17:08:12 any feedback you have send it to me 17:08:13 .. 17:08:16 .. 17:08:58 thanks gema 17:09:12 Last action from previous week: Ursinha to add irc commands to the next chair 17:09:26 I did that, it's in the Chairing link 17:09:28 .. 17:10:39 Ursinha, cool thanks, will try that at the end of the meeting 17:10:53 #topic Community Efforts/Testing jibel 17:11:15 Last week was Oneiric Beta 2 testing 17:11:21 Testing report: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ReleaseReports/OneiricBeta2TestReport 17:12:02 Participation was as high as Beta1 and we wish it will be higher for the final release. 17:12:31 The list of bugs found during the milestone is at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/report 17:12:35 List of bugs found during previous milestones: 17:12:39 http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/kernel-bugs/reports/iso-testing-open-all.html 17:13:00 Tomorrow is final freeze, you can help with testing daily ISOs and make sure that nothing release critical made its way to the images. 17:13:05 If you find something then raise a red flag. 17:13:26 Other topic on community testing: laptop testing 17:13:35 primes2h sent a call for testing last Friday 17:13:40 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-qa/2011-September/001689.html 17:13:46 You can help there too. 17:13:54 For laptop testing you'll need to run oneiric Beta 2 on your laptop and report results to the tracker. 17:14:08 that's all from me 17:14:14 any question/comment/complaints ? 17:15:11 moving on 17:15:13 #topic Automated/Systems Testing 17:15:20 anyone ? 17:15:39 nothing from me 17:15:40 .. 17:15:46 I'm working on the qrt scripts 17:16:30 making changes where necessary to get them all working on natty, then looking into implementing a system to note different dependencies for different versions, and ensure they work right on the lts versions 17:16:45 we'll be doing more design on that at a session at uds 17:17:12 that's all I've got for now 17:17:41 nice thanks. is there a blueprint registered for UDS so people interested can subscribe ? 17:17:50 nuclearbob, ^ 17:18:00 not yet, I'll be working with pgraner on that later 17:18:21 ok, keep us informed 17:18:26 will do 17:18:47 on the automation side, boot speed testing is back 17:19:02 you see the report at http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/boot-speed/ 17:19:28 patrickmw, could tell more than me so that's all I can say for today. 17:20:03 wow that's pretty 17:20:21 indeed 17:21:29 it is, thanks to bjf artistic talent 17:21:47 what‽ an artistic kernel dev 17:22:07 bdmurray: kernels are pure art... 17:22:07 #topic Engineering Team Bug Status bdmurray pedro_ Ursinha 17:22:30 nothing to report; lots in progress, nothing completed 17:22:31 .. 17:23:06 uploaded new apport hooks for plymouth and debian-installer 17:23:34 wrote a few additional html reports of bug tasks 17:23:43 at http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ 17:24:00 \o/ 17:24:23 went to O'Reilly Strata conference regarding BIG data 17:24:36 lots of interesting stuff regarding data visualization etc... 17:24:56 discovered an issue with bugpatterns not working because OriginalTitle is not known when an apport bug is being reported - it is only defined when downloading a bug title 17:24:59 fixed all existing patterns and emailed bug control 17:25:04 that's all 17:25:55 so besides normal bug triage, I've wrote a few bug patterns for different packages (can't remember the list so better check the changelog) 17:26:25 and i've also looking at old bugs with a fixed upstream task so start closing those in our side (Ubuntu) 17:26:35 seems we have almost a ~1000 of those right now 17:26:40 only on the desktop set... 17:26:55 how many did you clean? 17:27:00 up 17:27:01 pedro_: I wonder if there is some way to automate that 17:27:26 Ursinha, I'm manually checking those right now, so is not a fast process 17:27:44 I believe we can automate that, yes 17:28:02 pedro_, want to discuss that outside the meeting, right after that? 17:28:23 yes please 17:28:27 awesome 17:28:28 bdmurray, right , an automated process would be cool, and it would also work for other packages with upstream project 17:28:29 :) 17:28:37 yeah lets discuss that later 17:28:42 so nothing else from me 17:28:42 .. 17:29:23 any question ? 17:30:29 #topic Other topics 17:30:54 anyone ? 17:34:17 .. 17:34:38 [TOPIC] Chair Selection - $ shuf -e pedro_ Ursinha bdmurray nuclearbob gema charlie-tca | head -1 17:34:57 and ? where is the magic ? 17:35:13 At least it tells you something now? 17:35:15 nuclearbob 17:35:35 all right 17:35:45 jibel, ah, I recall you giving me the mission of implementing this as a bot command 17:36:54 Ursinha, no problem, I think there are more useful things to do at this stage of the release 17:37:10 +1 17:37:12 #action nuclearbob to chair next meeting 17:37:12 * meetingology nuclearbob to chair next meeting 17:37:52 3 17:37:56 2 17:37:59 1 17:38:15 thank you all for attending 17:38:21 #endmeeting