15:03:05 #startmeeting 15:03:05 Meeting started Wed Sep 28 15:03:05 2011 UTC. The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot. 15:03:05 15:03:05 Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 15:03:14 [TOPIC] lightning round 15:03:19 $ echo $(shuf -e cjwatson barry doko stgraber jhunt mvo ev bdmurray slangasek) 15:03:22 stgraber mvo bdmurray jhunt ev doko slangasek barry cjwatson 15:03:22 boom 15:03:41 - Got rid of most of friendly-recovery's bugs, the rest will have to wait for P. (bug 524605, bug 782872, bug 852266, bug 777524) 15:03:44 - Tracked bug 854967 down to a binary driver problem, hopefully gfxpayload blacklist will be updated to fix it 15:03:45 Launchpad bug 524605 in friendly-recovery (Ubuntu) "Keyboard layout isn't configured by the time friendly-recovery starts" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/524605 15:03:47 - Starting poking at bug 745960 though couldn't reproduce it yet 15:03:50 - Still trying to reproduce our "last" Edubuntu bug: bug 856460 but no luck so far 15:03:52 Launchpad bug 782872 in friendly-recovery (Ubuntu) "Recovery mode is displayed in unreadable font" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/782872 15:03:53 Launchpad bug 852266 in friendly-recovery (Ubuntu) "friendly-recovery spews noise about missing commands when /usr is a separate partition" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/852266 15:03:53 - Worked on a fix for bug 848072 15:03:55 - Did some upgrade testing for Edubuntu as we didn't have time to do it for beta2, didn't find any bug there 15:03:57 Launchpad bug 777524 in friendly-recovery (Ubuntu Oneiric) "“Repair broken packages” option breaks with Python ≥ 2.6" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/777524 15:03:58 - On the side, did some work on porting the ISO tracker to Drupal 7. Will need some more work but at least for Launchpad integration working and am now a lot more familiar with Drupal 7 API. 15:04:01 Launchpad bug 854967 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-updates (Ubuntu) "boot to rescue mode in Oneiric" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/854967 15:04:02 - TODO 15:04:05 Launchpad bug 745960 in grub2 (Ubuntu Oneiric) "Cannot boot grub after installing to LVM" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/745960 15:04:05 - Will do a bunch of uploads for translations update before final freeze 15:04:06 Launchpad bug 856460 in ltsp (Ubuntu) "ltsp-live fails to configure internal NIC" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/856460 15:04:07 Launchpad bug 848072 in netcfg (Ubuntu) "[oneiric] net-installer dhcp client fails with a DHCPDECLINE" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/848072 15:04:08 - Will then continue going through milestoned ubiquity bugs and fix as many of them 15:04:27 oh, and did some patch piloting last Thursday 15:04:28 (done) 15:05:18 did: 15:05:18 summary: lots and lots of debugging/fixing 15:05:18 python-apt: fix bug #829284 once and for all via new ParentComponent concept in python-apt 15:05:18 aptdaemon: debug/fix/upload new version with fix for bug #659111 15:05:18 software-center: trying to verify remaining proxy issue, can't reproduce (#545134), port to the new UbuntuSSOClient API, tentative fix for #857931, integrate lp:~mvo/software-center/review-stats-as-dbm for unity, debug/fix #651568 (turns out to be a bug in sun-java6), prepare debdiff, get in touch with brian 15:05:20 Launchpad bug 829284 in python-apt (Ubuntu) "Software Center does not enable "universe" when it enables "multiverse" software sources of dependencies" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/829284 15:05:21 piston-mini-client: add proxy support, review branch from achuni, merge, upload new piston-mini-client to oneiric, 15:05:22 Launchpad bug 659111 in aptdaemon (Ubuntu) "Installing then removing Monodevelop reports "the package system is broken"" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/659111 15:05:24 update-notifier: look at app indicator port for update-notifier (lp:~mvo/update-notifier/app-indicator-port 15:05:27 update-manager: look at #854622 again (changelog.Debian.gz no-duplicaton) 15:05:29 apt: work on regression test for apt-key net-update, net-update security issue, debug/diagnose/upload fix for #854090 15:05:32 misc: patch piloting 15:05:34 EOF 15:05:57 stgraber: thanks for the friendly-recovery fixes!!! 15:06:07 since I missed last weeks meeting this covers some of that period 15:06:12 * slangasek drowns in stgraber's list of bugs 15:06:21 bug triage of foundations team iso-testing bugs 15:06:22 bug pattern writing for bug 854090 and investigation into it and bug 859976 15:06:24 Launchpad bug 854090 in update-manager (Ubuntu Oneiric) "aptd crashed with SIGSEGV in debListParser::LoadReleaseInfo()" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/854090 15:06:24 discovered an issue with bugpatterns not working because OriginalTitle is not known when an apport bug is being reported - it is only defined when downloading a bug title 15:06:26 Launchpad bug 854090 in update-manager (Ubuntu Oneiric) "duplicate for #859976 aptd crashed with SIGSEGV in debListParser::LoadReleaseInfo()" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/854090 15:06:27 fixed all existing patterns and emailed bug control 15:06:38 investigation into ntfs resize errors and ntfs-3g bug reports 15:06:38 plymouth apport package hook modification fixing bug 860371 (gather more log files) 15:06:39 Launchpad bug 860371 in apport (Ubuntu) "apport should save boot.log for plymouth crashes" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/860371 15:06:41 modification of apport package hook for debian-installer to properly collect dm information (LP: #856826) 15:06:44 added active_milestones to distro_series in lpltk 15:06:47 wrote an important milestoned bug tasks report for slangasek and other engineering teams 15:06:50 html report of recently important bug tasks 15:06:54 created an html version of the assigned old in progress bug tasks report created html version of report of team-left-closed bug tasks report 15:06:58 you can find links to all reports at http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ 15:07:01 irc discussion regarding crichton and patch subscription 15:07:04 wrote and sent trip report from OReilly Strata Conference 15:07:06 work on role and responsibilities of the defect analysts 15:07:09 done 15:07:17 On holiday last week. Fixed a trying bug in the upstart job logging code 15:07:17 which will allow an updated ppa build this week (although still need to 15:07:17 finish some tests). Currently working on bugs 849414, 829980 and 849414. 15:07:18 ⏎ 15:07:19 Launchpad bug 849414 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "plymouthd crashed with SIGSEGV in ply_event_loop_process_pending_events()" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/849414 15:07:20 mvo_: no prob, hopefully I can spend some more time on it for 12.04 so we can get a rocking recovery mode for the LTS 15:07:21 Launchpad bug 829980 in upstart (Ubuntu) "upstart-udev-bridge eats 100% cpu calling dbus_message_iter_append_basic()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/829980 15:07:42 [LINK] reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/foundations-bugs/foundations-bugs-next-milestone-important-bug-tasks.html - important milestoned bug tasks 15:08:01 stgraber: I'm keen to help out with that too. 15:08:03 bdmurray: it occurs to me that it would be nice to show the assignee on there too, btw 15:08:31 jhunt: cool, definitely worth a session in Orlando then 15:08:42 stgraber: agreed! 15:08:43 slangasek: got it 15:08:44 it'd be lovely for all reports.qa pages to show a timestamp of when the report was generated 15:09:40 oh, speaking of reports, I now have: http://people.canonical.com/~stgraber/package_sets/ if someone's wondering what's in our package sets (and doesn't want to play with edit_acl.py) 15:11:24 bdmurray: ^^ agree with cjwatson; for that matter, embedding a link to the source would be nice 15:11:45 I've todo'ed the timestamp 15:11:55 ev: 15:12:01 - Fixed live-build to include universe and friends on Wubi disk images 15:12:01 (855301). 15:12:02 - Call with Hugh and others on the employee survey. 15:12:02 - Fixed locale issues with Wubi disk images (855295). 15:12:02 - Fixed timezone issues with Wubi disk images (855287). 15:12:02 - Fixed release notes update installer links being displayed when there isn't 15:12:03 a network connection (856213). 15:12:09 - Fighting Wubi test harness and fixing bug (856340). 15:12:09 - Repaint the wallpaper in ubiquity by entering the GTK main loop (854179). 15:12:09 - Fought ubiquity tests build failures, pygobject 3 to blame (854179). 15:12:10 - Replied to HP regarding customizing the installer. 15:12:10 - Reviewing developer.ubuntu.com at the request of the web team before it went 15:12:10 live. 15:12:18 - Set ATK names only when using --ldtp in ubiquity (781385). 15:12:18 - UBUNTU IS PEOPLE! (855685). 15:12:18 - Fixed Wubi not using a local ISO (bad refactoring, yay) (842397). 15:12:19 - Fighting with canonical-arm on oem-config-gtk (820514). 15:12:19 - Trying to get to the bottom of the apt lock bug (743395). A few attempts at 15:12:19 fixing it made. 15:12:24 - Meeting with Iain, Matthew, and John on changes to the downloads page 11.10. 15:12:25 - Evening fun hacking on the metrics collection backend and Wubi frontend 15:12:25 using nodejs and MongoDB. Working prototype \o/ and I'll have a Vagrant 15:12:25 configuration (VirtualBox + puppet/chef: http://vagrantup.com/) in a public 15:12:25 branch soon, if you want to get your own projects hooked into it. 15:12:26 - Fixed some bugs caught by unit tests. 15:12:29 - Merged and pushed out a new slideshow with updated screenshots for the 15:12:29 latest desktop changes. 15:12:29 - Reviewing Colin's async geonames branch 15:12:29 (https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/ubiquity/libsoup-timezone/+merge/77324). 15:12:31 done! 15:13:41 that's a lot of fightin' :) 15:13:57 :) 15:14:06 yeah, really impressive list! 15:14:31 thanks! 15:15:24 ah, soylent ubuntu 15:15:48 doko: did you make it back in time? 15:15:49 I'm working on reanimating Heston 15:16:27 guess not, so I'll dump doko's status here for him 15:16:34 - more ftbfs fixes, although the pace slows down (~30). 15:16:34 - sponsoring ftbfs fixes, ftbfs related archive removals 15:16:34 - fixed some armel ftbfs (linker related and fpc related) 15:16:38 - openjdk-6 JamVM update (please expect an openjdk-7 update still this week) 15:16:41 - 853688, no real solution yet. proposed to fix the 15:16:45 original issue in command-not-found 15:16:45 - bug triage on some issues 15:16:51 - scanned the armel ftbfs, no new binutils/gcc related issues found 15:16:51 - eglibc update (maybe one more needed: 861132) 15:16:54 - addressed (too) late linking changes in the gtk/gnome uploads on #debian-release. 15:17:13 bug #853688 15:17:15 Launchpad bug 853688 in gcj-4.4 (Ubuntu Oneiric) "Natty to Oneiric - failed to calculate the upgrade with gcj-4.4-jre installed" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/853688 15:17:21 bug #861132 15:17:22 Launchpad bug 861132 in eglibc "setenv ("NAME", NULL) corrupts environment" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/861132 15:20:04 and then me 15:20:14 pushed changes to gdm,lightdm,plymouth to give us text-free shutdown again (bug #854329). If you still see dots over text, report bugs! 15:20:15 Launchpad bug 854329 in xdm (Ubuntu Oneiric) "race condition on shutdown with more than one DM installed" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/854329 15:20:17 fixed up i18n for console-setup (bug #838669) 15:20:18 Launchpad bug 838669 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Keep default layout dialog is not localized in Finnish" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/838669 15:20:22 did some thinking about apt-key over the weekend, helping to come up with a plan 15:20:25 qemu-linaro FFe, fixing FTBFS 15:20:30 fixing up flashplugin-nonfree maintainer scripts 15:20:33 upload dpkg to catch all the stragglers still missing multiarch on their systems (bug #846451) 15:20:34 Launchpad bug 846451 in dpkg (Ubuntu) "upgrades from oneiric beta-1 installs missing multiarch support" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/846451 15:21:04 convert jackd2 to multiarch at the eleventh hour because I converted the wrong libjack before (bug #861025); still regression-testing the archive for buildability 15:21:05 Launchpad bug 861025 in jackd2 (Ubuntu) "FFe: I don't know jack, need to multiarch jackd2" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/861025 15:21:12 spent some time helping with FFe reviews 15:21:14 (done) 15:21:20 slangasek: will ubiquity-dm need anything for that text-free shutdown? 15:22:12 bug 795096 (turbojson ftbfs - python-peak.util update); bug 850744 (quickly crash after upgrade); bug 832782 (python-omniorb ftbfs); bug 835008 (nipype ftbfs); gtimelog 0.7 release (upstream and ubuntu); bug 831344 (cardstories ftbfs); merge python-defaults from debian; python security issue 7732 (imp.find_module crasher); todo: continue on 795096 and 850744, other ftbfs. done. 15:22:17 Launchpad bug 795096 in turbojson (Ubuntu Oneiric) "FTBFS with Python 2.7 as default" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/795096 15:22:18 Launchpad bug 850744 in quickly (Ubuntu) "quickly crashed with ImportError in __main__: No module named quickly" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/850744 15:22:19 Launchpad bug 832782 in python-omniorb (Ubuntu Oneiric) "python-omniorb version 3.5-3 failed to build in oneiric" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/832782 15:22:20 Launchpad bug 835008 in nipype (Ubuntu Oneiric) "nipype version 0.4.1-1 failed to build in oneiric" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/835008 15:22:21 Launchpad bug 831344 in cardstories (Debian) "cardstories version 1.0.6-1 failed to build in oneiric" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/831344 15:22:53 some cross-build fixes 15:22:53 gfxboot-theme-ubuntu: Lubuntu localisation (bug 855977) 15:22:53 d-i: handle /dev/zram* the same way as /dev/ramzswap*; fix a collection of Xen installation bugs (bug 720558, bug 857548, bug 857662); netcfg hostname fix (bug 856088); installation-guide update; working on bug 851704; fixed up i18n for console-setup harder :-) (bug 860562) 15:22:55 Launchpad bug 855977 in gfxboot-theme-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "Entries with "Lubuntu" are not translated on the boot menu on any Lubuntu ISO" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/855977 15:22:58 grub: fix arcane linking bug (bug 837815) 15:22:59 ev: the particular problem being fixed was that if there were two DMs installed on a system that had been upgraded (e.g., lightdm+gdm), one of these will stop at *startup*, so plymouth starts as soon as the runlevel event happens. I don't think ubiquity-dm is affected by this 15:23:00 ubiquity: working on networkless hang on timezone page (bug 837217) - incidentally, by contrast with the mumble discussion, I found the GI Soup interface perfectly reasonable :-) 15:23:01 Launchpad bug 720558 in grub (Ubuntu Natty) "Ubuntu 10.04 currently requires groot= workaround with pvgrub" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/720558 15:23:02 Launchpad bug 857548 in grub-installer (Ubuntu Natty) "no longer possible to select GRUB Legacy by preseeding" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/857548 15:23:04 Launchpad bug 857662 in debian-installer (Ubuntu P-series) "Should xenbus_probe_frontend be built-in?" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/857662 15:23:04 various UEFI secure boot discussions, spilled over onto ubuntu-users@ and the like 15:23:06 Launchpad bug 856088 in netcfg (Ubuntu Oneiric) "Expert install defaults to invalid hostname" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/856088 15:23:07 Launchpad bug 851704 in grub2 (Ubuntu Oneiric) "GRUB reports error after successful installation (Alternate)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/851704 15:23:07 ADSL fixed last week; now have twice the bandwidth I had before, which is still not a lot but there you go 15:23:08 Launchpad bug 837815 in grub (Ubuntu Oneiric) "Grub 0.97-29ubuntu62 gives error "Error 6: Mismatched or corrupt version of stage1/stage2"" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/837815 15:23:09 Launchpad bug 837217 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Oneiric) "Time Zone selector hangs and ubiquity freezes if network connection is firewalled" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/837217 15:23:10 a bit generally distracted at the moment due to family medical issues 15:23:13 .. 15:23:13 slangasek: cool, just making sure 15:23:29 ev: but switching to emitting the 'desktop-shutdown' symbol would be nice anyway in the long term, to simplify our job logic 15:23:44 noted 15:23:46 slangasek: apt-key - I really much appreciated your help with that one, excellent plan 15:24:22 mvo_: glad it helped! what's the timeline for getting those changes in, then? Will we have it in oneiric before final release? 15:24:56 slangasek: I want to get some additional review from #security, but I think that is within the scope 15:25:14 cjwatson: what's the state of cross-buildability now? how far have we bitrotted? 15:26:00 I think I've cured the worst of the bitrot, although python2.6 doesn't seem to cross-build for me which is a current impedance to a lot of stuff 15:26:12 a general upstart point: we should be updating upstart-events(7) when we add new events like desktop-shutdown and recovery. 15:26:21 wookey and I have some mismatches on what we're trying to make work 15:26:51 mvo: do you think you could upload that sha512 fix in apt to Debian? if I have that there, I can upload xdeb to Debian and sync 15:27:01 (modulo FFe) 15:27:41 hmm, speaking of gfxboot-theme-ubuntu, while debugging my boot flickers over the weekend, I had a poke at putting the plymouth logo on the grub background... I don't suppose anyone's planning for grub2 to grow a '-center' option for the background_image command? :) 15:27:42 slangasek: what we don't have, and what I think needs to be a priority in P if we're taking this seriously, is a regularly updated dashboard of current failures that *isn't* in the form of a spreadsheet attached to a wiki page 15:27:52 heh, yes 15:28:05 cjwatson: I looked at this the other day, its only a bug in experimental currently, unstable is fine 15:28:13 jhunt: shall I open a task on upstart for this bug? 15:28:30 mvo: oh really? ok, excellent 15:28:30 cjwatson: or will xdeb go to experimental too? 15:28:34 mvo: no, unstable 15:28:52 slangasek: center - hm, I think I tried to add -x and -y at one point, I forget what went wrong 15:29:09 cjwatson: yeah, unstable in debian is a bit behind because of the massive ABI break and the binary NMUs still will requires 15:29:16 slangasek: cool, thx. 15:29:18 slangasek: cross-building> so at the moment unfortunately even answering your question is rather arduous. Linaro's work is largely based on natty 15:30:01 cjwatson: my current method is to use 'convert' to switch the logo from RGBA to RGB and expand it out to the dimensions that I happen to know my display comes up at... not very portable, and imagemagick isn't in the base system :) 15:30:02 I have 84 cross-built packages in my tree, but of course that's only a small core - I was trying to see if I could get all of Ubuntu Core to work 15:30:29 slangasek: I don't think putting the plymouth logo on the grub background is in general realistic, which is why I haven't pursued this 15:30:49 fair enough 15:30:54 slangasek: it means it is really really obvious when your manufacturer hasn't bothered to put the KMS panel resolution in EDID 15:31:11 I was spending a lot of time rebooting my old laptop this weekend, so I gave it a go 15:31:13 at least with a plain filled background, one purple screen looks much like another 15:31:19 * slangasek nods 15:31:39 though it would be nice if the logo faded in rather than just being blitted 15:31:45 bling 15:32:44 * slangasek grins 15:33:17 [TOPIC] Bugs 15:33:24 bdmurray: what's buggy? :) 15:33:40 (please don't say "everything") 15:33:54 it's his job to be more selective ;) 15:34:03 almost everything! 15:34:05 ;-) 15:34:08 hahaha 15:34:09 well done! 15:34:12 lol 15:34:18 ship it! 15:34:50 bug 855042 seems rather important and is still new but has a fair bit of information 15:34:52 Launchpad bug 855042 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity hangs while jockey-text at 100% CPU" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/855042 15:36:01 let's have that be Confirmed at least 15:36:06 I have a horrible feeling that's hw-dependent 15:36:11 surely that's a jockey bug 15:36:38 jockey creates its own log file right? would that be worth getting? 15:37:15 stderr, as far as I'm aware 15:37:26 but presumably this is reproduceable outside of ubiquity 15:37:29 apport.hookutils.attach_file_if_exists(report, '/var/log/jockey.log') 15:37:30 so they could just redirect 15:37:32 ah 15:37:34 neato 15:38:09 based on the syslog, the hardware seems to use intel graphics and most of the rest seems to be intel too 15:38:36 hmm, why is that asking for confirmation? we don't pass --confirm 15:38:42 ohhhhh 15:38:50 afaics confirm_action is only called inside an 'if confirm:' guard 15:38:53 I thought we fixed this AGES ago? 15:39:16 oh 15:39:18 self.set_handler_enable(h_id, 'enable', True) 15:39:22 in check_composite 15:39:41 so that always asks for confirmation regardless (third arg = confirm) 15:40:13 but confirm shouldn't matter? We feed it y\n with LC_ALL set to C 15:40:49 oh, we do? 15:41:19 I see no LC_ALL=C in ./scripts/simple-plugins 15:41:42 ah 15:41:55 I was foolishly looking in plugininstall.py 15:41:58 nor any y/n passing 15:42:24 (and if jockey-text is using stdio there, it'll probably break debconf, too) 15:43:10 * cjwatson wonders why this is duplicated between plugininstall and simple-plugins 15:44:06 indeed, an oversight 15:44:14 oh 15:44:21 because we need to do the latter in the chroot 15:44:38 otherwise bad things happen, according to pitti, but I can't recall exactly what 15:44:48 okay so you two are looking into this now? 15:44:53 sounds like they have it triaged :) 15:44:54 other bugs? 15:45:20 bug 861303 recently reported by scottk 15:45:21 Launchpad bug 861303 in python-numpy (Ubuntu Oneiric) "import numpy fails badly" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/861303 15:45:30 (sidebar, scripts/simple-plugins should die in a fire) 15:45:37 the title is wrong / misleading 15:46:38 very strange 15:47:13 anyone have any guesses why python modules would suddenly be unable to resolve symbols in a package build? 15:47:42 slangasek: which symbols? all of them? :) 15:48:01 barry: Py_InitModule4 15:48:35 slangasek: i was afraid you might say that. now i have to remember which package i fixed something similar in 15:48:47 barry: cool; will you follow up on the bug? 15:48:58 slangasek: 861303, right? 15:49:24 barry: yep 15:49:29 slangasek: will do 15:50:14 the other 2 I'm looking at are more long term the traceback in bug 850482 is causing some incorrect duplicate marking 15:50:15 Launchpad bug 850482 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "update-manager crashed with SystemError in mark_install(): E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages." [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/850482 15:50:43 I'm wondering if there is a way to make that error more verbose to prevent this incorrect duplicate marking 15:51:25 I can look into that after the meeting, maybe need to just append the pkgname to the error string 15:51:37 mvo: okay thanks! 15:52:13 finally bug 69176 (not a typo) ;-) 15:52:14 Launchpad bug 69176 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "No notification in Ubiquity for bad sectors" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69176 15:52:21 * slangasek nods 15:52:44 I recently found a ubiquity bug regarding bad sectors when trying to use ntfsresize 15:53:10 while there aren't a lot of these it seems like it might be helpful to deal with this situation better 15:53:14 kinda hard to get bad sector notification into the GUI, because there's no clear back channel for this... anyone have any clever ideas about how to handle that one? 15:53:39 I have some preliminary work for talking to external fs tools in a smarter way 15:54:02 this becomes more urgent for parted 3.0 because it drops the buggy and unmaintained filesystem code there 15:54:03 * doko just came back 15:54:12 but there's no way it'll be in place for oneiric 15:54:34 mostly I'm focusing on fixing the lack of decent progress output on many mkfs/resize ops in the installer 15:54:46 but I think it could probably be used to handle other problems too 15:55:02 * slangasek waves to doko 15:55:04 right of course I was thinking of targetting it for P 15:55:40 yeah; still quite a bit to go but that might be realistic 15:55:53 cool 15:55:55 thanks, bdmurray 15:56:01 [TOPIC] AOB 15:56:12 anything else before we all turn into pumpkins? 15:56:13 FWIW the bug list I'm tracking for release meetings is http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/kernel-bugs/reports/rls-mgr-o-tracking-bugs.html 15:56:34 I have two things. One, lets talk about integration tests at UDS. That is, what would it take to fire off the ubiquity test harness when someone uploads GTK+ (run all the unit tests for any reverse deps for the package being built)? 15:57:16 And two, http://www.vagrantup.com - VirtualBox + puppet/chef - great for working on things that you at some point want IS to provision, but can't bother waiting on RTs 15:57:27 slangasek: hopefully not 1487 lb pumpkins 15:57:34 especially when you're working with others, as you just pass around the config 15:58:25 ev: integration tests> can you talk to Pete to make sure QA is covering this topic at UDS? 15:59:15 slangasek: will do 15:59:24 ev: vagrantup - that only helps when you have the local hardware resources to provision it yourself, I guess? :) 15:59:38 I've got IS to give me an rsync module on cocoplum accessible from lillypilly so that I can have an all-arches dists/ mirror there 15:59:43 well, it's a virtual machine 15:59:59 this will let us have all-arches rmadison and start moving various archive tools off cocoplum when they only need Packages/Sources 16:00:16 and reduce the ssh-with-restricted-keys madness for a bunch of stsuff 16:00:25 planning on spending a bit of time doing that after final freeze 16:00:57 ev: right, but you need to have hardware with enough idle cpu and disk to provision the vms for the jobs you're doing, I guess 16:02:34 cjwatson: lillypilly> very nice 16:02:49 #endmeeting