#title #ubuntu-meeting Meeting Meeting started by Daviey at 16:01:31 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-08-30-16.01.log.html . == Meeting summary == ''LINK:'' http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/group/topic-oneiric-server-overview.html <-- needs to be kept up to date with WI's (Daviey, 16:05:19) Meeting ended at 16:42:04 UTC. == Votes == == Action items == * (none) == People present (lines said) == * Daviey (117) * smb (24) * Ursinha (15) * hggdh (13) * jamespage (12) * SpamapS (11) * smoser (6) * ubottu (4) * hallyn (4) * adam_g (3) * meetingology (3) * AlanBell (3) * zul (3) * rbasak (2) * RoAkSoAx (2) * ogra_ (1) * apw (1) * utlemming (1) == Full Log == 16:01:31 #startmeeting 16:01:31 Meeting started Tue Aug 30 16:01:31 2011 UTC. The chair is Daviey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot. 16:01:31 16:01:31 Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 16:01:52 #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting 16:02:15 None 16:02:22 Unless anyone has anything? 16:02:36 #Oneiric Development 16:02:43 #topic Oneiric Development 16:03:02 So BETA 1 release this Thursday! 16:03:03 eep 16:03:10 time flies 16:03:24 yikes! 16:03:26 In general, we are looking pretty good. 16:03:32 Smoke testing of the canddiates is appreciated 16:03:44 * Ursinha is testing 16:03:46 Long view, issues being tracked for Oneiric . http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html 16:04:04 Some are milestoned with the ambition of being on b1.. good luck with that 16:04:15 Any issues not present, please raise them as soon as possible and let me know about them. 16:04:49 * Really * Please * If * a bug * needs * to * be * fixed * in Oneiric * for *server * please * tell me * if it *isn't on that * list * 16:05:19 http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/group/topic-oneiric-server-overview.html <-- needs to be kept up to date with WI's 16:05:40 Incoming bug count seems to be slim, but useful. 16:05:46 Anything from anyone else? 16:05:53 Daviey: bugs assigned to ubuntu-server and targeted to b1, is that ok? 16:06:23 bug 791607 16:06:23 Ursinha: Ones already on the list? 16:06:25 Launchpad bug 791607 in eucalyptus (Ubuntu Oneiric) "Oneiric Eucalyptus fails to start up" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/791607 16:06:27 yes 16:06:43 as you said "good luck with that", I wonder if that's true or can be moved 16:06:45 Ursinha: That is a concern, upstream eucalyptus have started to be move involved. 16:06:50 right 16:06:56 The milestone was realy set to show it's importance and keep it on peoples radar. 16:07:02 But it will not be fixed for b1. 16:07:13 Unless we are really lucky :) 16:07:24 right then 16:07:36 When B1 is pressed, i'll update all the milestones we care about for b2. 16:07:44 Anything with anyone else? 16:08:13 [TOPIC] Ubuntu Server Team Events 16:08:35 (wish i knew what is up with meetingology ) 16:08:46 Any events people are attending soonish? 16:08:56 plumber's next week 16:09:29 Ah yes! Anyone going to Linux Plumbers.. do say hello to hallyn, and ask for 1:1 support for LXC issues. 16:09:39 no other events? 16:09:41 openstack conference and design summit coming up 16:09:47 Week of Oct 3rd! 16:09:53 Places still open. 16:10:10 [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) 16:10:18 hggdh: Hello sir! 16:11:15 I guess hggdh is afk.. will return to him in a bit. 16:11:33 [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) 16:11:37 Most effort going into solving bug #832207 before oneiric release... 16:11:37 smb: Hello! 16:11:38 Launchpad bug 832207 in xen (Ubuntu) "HVM guest hangs on block io" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/832207 16:12:10 There is a patch for xen to make that work (for pre 2.6.39 kernels at least).... 16:12:33 unfortunately without any network because the emulated nic gets no interrupts either.... 16:12:50 :/ 16:12:53 which is fixed by another patch recently received for testing 16:12:58 ...however.... 16:13:01 smb: Upstream xen are working on the issue with you? 16:13:08 Daviey, yep 16:13:36 this triggers an issue with ipxe... so the boot hangs on the bios 16:13:49 Daviey: OTP on a conflicting meeting, will be available shortly 16:13:56 hggdh: ok, thans. 16:14:01 I am able to boot by forcefully not taking any boot proms 16:14:26 And Stefano said, that upstream ipxe seems to work for him as well... not tested locallly though 16:14:27 smb: Think it's likely to be fixed by B2? 16:14:51 That only leaves me with pv spinlocks hanging the boot of all 3.0 kernels in hvm mode... 16:15:03 Daviey, Maybe... :-/ 16:15:27 Unfortunately every step seems to be into a new issue so far... 16:15:32 smb: thanks! Just out of interest, is this on the xen devel mailing list? 16:15:42 smb: Sounds like fun! 16:15:54 Daviey, No, doing some direct mails with Stefano from Citrix 16:16:05 ah ok, thanks 16:16:11 Daviey, Endless source of joy :) 16:16:16 heh 16:16:21 smb: bug 790712? 16:16:23 Launchpad bug 790712 in linux (Ubuntu Oneiric) "20110531 i386 server ISO: order 5 allocation failure during install" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/790712 16:16:28 jamespage: Thanks for joining us :) 16:16:44 Daviey, Ignored to the best of my abilities so far 16:16:52 smb: I don't think it's been checked if that is on the B1 candidates. 16:17:16 smb: do you have the bug on splinlooks? 16:17:21 hggdh: Are you able to confirm that is still valid on B1 candidates? 16:17:49 utlemming, Not yet... I am pretty bad with opening those 16:17:58 Daviey: I have not seen it again 16:18:40 Daviey, hggdh I thought that I read somethign somewhere which I thought it might be related but completely blanked it now... :( 16:18:44 hggdh: That is good, right? :) 16:19:03 Oh... actually remember 16:19:04 Daviey: not really -- we bypassed it by allocating more memory to the VMs 16:19:10 smb / hggdh: if you see, or get reminded of it again.. lets poke more. :) 16:19:19 hggdh: Seems like a valid work around. :) 16:19:25 heh 16:19:28 I think there was something wrong with compressed swap ... 16:19:43 smb: please go ahead, I am interested :-) 16:20:11 smb, yes there is something very wrong with compressed swap, i am trying to get it sorted in casper 16:20:24 hallyn: bug 827798 is still minor, right? 16:20:25 Launchpad bug 827798 in lxc (Ubuntu) "LXC works without warning regardless if cgroup namespaces are properly available" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/827798 16:20:40 Daviey: yes 16:20:46 good stuff 16:20:51 Anything else for kernel? 16:20:58 apw, Though that means its not fixed yet... which would amke it unrelated to the breakage not happenign anymore. 16:21:15 Daviey: let's retarget 827798 and i'll patch it after freeze is over 16:21:24 Do people /really/ used compressed swap? 16:21:27 Anyway... No nothing more from me... 16:21:36 hallyn: good cookies. 16:21:49 Daviey, I think its used by the installer to allow smallish RAM installs 16:22:00 smb: BTW, the care we have for powerpc flavour is sub-zero :) 16:22:15 smb: Ah! But only for squashfs? 16:22:31 * smb does not care much even before... :) 16:22:51 Thanks smb for the update.. appreciate it! 16:22:52 Daviey, It could be completely not relevant for server install 16:23:21 [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) 16:23:25 hggdh: Hello sir! 16:23:26 OK 16:23:35 still on the phone, but just hearing now ;-) 16:23:51 hggdh: So.. QA for Beta 1.. how do we look? 16:23:52 we need to get the ensemble and cobbler tests jotted down ASAP 16:24:15 server tests are almost all done; we still need help on RAID1 and iSCSI 16:24:18 hggdh: I've got some scripts you can use as a guide. 16:24:31 RoAkSoAx / adam_g: Do you have a spare cycle to assit hggdh in writing cobbler setup? 16:24:37 SpamapS: perfect 16:24:54 SpamapS: for ensemble only, right? 16:25:09 Daviey: yeah, i can lend a hand. 16:25:15 hggdh: builds a chroot.. installs ensemble.. starts wp/mysql and curls for the title page. 16:25:15 adam_g: rocking! 16:25:26 also -- please add to http://pad.ubuntu.com/qa-server-o 16:25:27 hggdh: you just have to manually configure the ssh key and environments.yaml 16:25:29 SpamapS: sounds like a good standaline. 16:25:55 hggdh was going to work on also testing a minimal formail against cobbler for bare metal. 16:25:58 lp:~clint-fewbar/ensemble/jenkins-test-suite 16:26:00 yeah and I'm still trying to figure out what's wrong in the uec0-plat test-rig as add-apt-repository does not work 16:26:01 misc/jenkins 16:26:03 :) 16:26:06 s/fromail/formula 16:26:32 SpamapS: Can you bombared hggdh with help in getting that online? 16:26:36 indeed 16:26:39 \o/ 16:26:52 SpamapS: branching now 16:26:54 Anything else for testing? 16:27:02 also on the RAID1 test .. I think somebody else should do it 16:27:10 I did a bunch of RAID1 iterating and some fixes this last 2 weeks.. 16:27:12 Ursinha / jamepage : anything? 16:27:17 better that somebody untainted by that do the tests. 16:27:33 smoser / utlemming / jamespage : Test plan for cloud images testing? 16:27:43 Daviey: I will be working on the openstack test topologies this week 16:28:04 jamespage: Great! Can you try to put as much of that on the wiki as possible? ;) 16:28:22 I don't think deploying openstack via ensemble, via cobbler is a visable QA testing this milestone. 16:28:29 but next, i think it will be vital 16:28:29 right 16:28:50 jamespage: sweet, if/when you branch those openstack formulas, they now live in principia proper 16:28:56 Who is the contact this milestone for AWS testing of the images? 16:29:03 it will just be a 'follow these steps' for this release - we can automate it later 16:29:09 no sir 16:29:13 jamespage: sounds good to me! 16:29:25 utlemming / smoser ? 16:29:25 utlemming kicked off (i believe) another images build. we will begin test when that comes out. 16:29:38 Daviey: I run the tests - they should publish out to jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com 16:29:44 Beta Freeze.. what is that for eh? :) 16:30:02 i suppose i or utlemming need to get with jamespage to figure out if we can kick that off ourselves. or if we are still at his mercy to do so. 16:30:13 utlemming: Is it safe to assume the latest that will drop on is B1 candidate? 16:30:42 smoser: we should be able to figure it out - need to catchup with patrickmw 16:30:43 smoser / jamespage / utlemming: Really, the jenkins testing should be more controled by QA. 16:30:52 super 16:31:01 Daviey: agreed - and its my problem as I've not completed the handover 16:31:03 +1 16:31:15 sorry 16:31:20 that is all fine with me. i just need to push a button, or ask someone to push a button. 16:31:33 jamespage: Oh, don;t be 16:32:02 I hate the fact that the output of jenkins needs to be manually put into the QA tracker. 16:32:03 :-) 16:32:08 me to 16:32:10 I think that could/should be automated. 16:32:23 Daviey: you do not hate it as much as we that do it 16:32:32 heh 16:32:37 did I hear automation? 16:32:53 we control the QA code base right? 16:32:53 is that too complex or we lack people to do so? 16:33:04 hggdh / jamespage / Ursinha: you might be interested in the post-ami-to-tracker.py.. uses HTTP to 'automate'. .. not exactly an API 16:33:05 So we could just write an importer for jenkins data, could we not? 16:33:10 but might have goodness that can be stolen. 16:33:18 Daviey: where is that? 16:33:19 SpamapS: that is the hope :) 16:33:27 Ursinha: lp:ubuntu-archive-tools IIRC 16:33:34 cool, thanks Daviey :) 16:33:56 Maybe something that can be achieved for B2 :) 16:34:02 well maybe 16:34:12 If someone is going to work on that.. make sure you make it known, to avoid duplication. 16:34:23 Moving on? 16:34:29 if i had to chose between copying data once a alpha/beta and getting automated daily test 16:34:34 i'd chose fully automated daily test 16:35:10 true 16:35:17 [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (NCommander) 16:35:17 ie, if someone is going to work on something, i'd rather tham work on getting daily tests of our ec2 images than on syncing jenkins output to iso tracker 16:35:43 smoser: notes 16:35:46 noted* 16:35:59 NCommander: around? 16:36:11 oops, I broke meetingology a bit :( 16:36:28 ogra_ .. seen NCommander ? :) 16:36:29 I will go fix, and reprocess this meeting, carry on as if it was working . . . 16:36:32 AlanBell: i noticed :) 16:36:54 Thankfully AlanBell's fail will be documented in the meeting logs for eternity. 16:37:03 (i jest.) 16:37:13 * AlanBell makes a note to edit the logs to make it look like Daviey's fault 16:37:17 heh 16:37:27 Daviey, he's somewhere on the road 16:37:54 NCommander: When you read this.. it's starting to become an issue this slot? 16:38:20 We really need more updates on the status of ARM server.. it's like a low powered black box. 16:38:39 Thanks ogra_ 16:38:48 [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions from the Ubuntu Community 16:39:13 kim0|holiday: I assume you are on holiday? :) 16:39:23 Any news from the floor? 16:39:39 [TOPIC] Open Discussion 16:40:22 we have a new guy dont we? 16:40:33 We do! 16:40:42 rbasak: Hello sir! 16:40:48 Hello! 16:40:51 * hallyn waves 16:41:00 The latest addition to ~ubuntu-server team! 16:41:00 * jamespage waves as well 16:41:14 Hi everyone! 16:41:16 rbasak: o/ 16:41:29 * Daviey notes to get rbasak to introduce himself fully next meeting. 16:41:48 [TOPIC] Announce next meeting date and time 16:41:55 Same time, same place, next week? 16:42:01 Good Stuff! 16:42:04 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot)