15:02:28 <slangasek> #startmeeting
15:02:28 <meetingology> Meeting started Wed Aug 24 15:02:28 2011 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.
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15:02:44 <slangasek> [TOPIC] lightning round
15:02:44 <meetingology> TOPIC: lightning round
15:02:48 <slangasek> $ echo $(shuf -e cjwatson barry doko stgraber jhunt mvo ev bdmurray slangasek)
15:02:51 <slangasek> barry mvo slangasek bdmurray jhunt stgraber ev cjwatson doko
15:02:55 <slangasek> no barry today, so mvo:
15:03:19 <mvo> (shorter week, worked only half a day monday/tuesday)
15:03:19 <mvo> did:
15:03:19 <mvo> software-center: lots of work on the gtk3 version, fixes in "whats new" and the sort ordering, network state/offline mode fixes, work on add-license-key infrastructure, lots of review/merges,
15:03:19 <mvo> misc: replaced broken openwrt router
15:03:19 <mvo> apt: extensive testing of the new SoC ordering code via the auto-upgrade-tester
15:03:21 <mvo> aptdaemon: debug/fix #828162 (multiarch), add lp:~mvo/aptdaemon/add-license-key-call, debug/fix crash with 64 bit progress types (LP: #829186), review/merge packagekit backend branch(!)
15:03:24 <mvo> update-manager: do not run software-properties-gtk, upload new version
15:03:26 <mvo> next week:
15:03:28 <mvo> VACATION
15:03:29 <mvo> EOF
15:04:04 <mvo> (eh, do not run software-properties-gtk as root that should read)
15:04:21 <slangasek> ah, done too quickly, I should've rigged the output to put myself last like I usually do
15:04:26 <slangasek> bdmurray: can you go ahead? :)
15:04:31 <bdmurray> aye
15:04:40 <bdmurray> bug triage of canonical-foundations and canonical-qa team assigned bug reports
15:04:43 <bdmurray> reviewing foundations team bugs that missed the alpha-3 milestone
15:04:46 <bdmurray> writing a bug pattern and a bug bot function for ubiquity bug 743359
15:04:47 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 743359 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Oneiric) "Installer: LockFailedException: Failed to lock /target/var/cache/apt/archives/lock" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/743359
15:04:58 <bdmurray> bug pattern writing for bug 386763 (defoma locked exists)
15:04:58 <bdmurray> bug pattern writing for bug 828759 regarding ubuntu-meta
15:04:58 <bdmurray> update to search-bugs from bugpatterns to accept a within X number of days parameter to make cron'ing it easier
15:04:59 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 386763 in defoma (Ubuntu) "[Master] font package failed to install/upgrade: post-installation exit status 1 - /var/lib/defoma/locked exists." [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/386763
15:05:00 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 828759 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Oneiric) "package ubuntu-desktop 1.240 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/828759
15:05:01 <bdmurray> email to defect analysts regarding search-bugs cronjob
15:05:14 <bdmurray> email to the defect analysts team regarding invalid apport-package bug reports
15:05:17 <bdmurray> patch-subscriber fix for dealing with bugs with subscribers that are private teams or people
15:05:20 <bdmurray> updated firefox-lp-improvements extension to work with firefox 7
15:05:28 <bdmurray> improvements to ubiquity duplicate signatures for syslog files and tracebacks
15:05:31 <bdmurray> bug triage of ubiquity duplicate signature bug reports
15:05:33 <bdmurray> creation of a bug bot function to detect hardware errors for /, /var, or /usr partitions resulting in an apport-package bug report
15:05:36 <bdmurray> investigated / started writing a transitioned to High and Critical bug report using launchpadlib
15:05:39 <bdmurray> defect analysts sprint last week
15:05:42 <bdmurray> done
15:05:57 <jhunt_> Overcame blocking bug in tests for Upstart job logging feature (yay!)
15:05:57 <jhunt_> Currently frantically writing remaining tests (of which there are oodles^2).
15:06:00 <jhunt_> Bank Holiday on Monday 29th.
15:06:06 <jhunt_> 
15:07:06 <stgraber> jhunt_: is that last character == "done" ? :)
15:07:40 <jhunt_> stgraber: yeah - its an Ubuntu logo symbol "done" :)
15:07:47 <stgraber> ok :)
15:07:58 <stgraber> let's see if my copy/paste works this time around :)
15:07:59 <stgraber> - LinuxCon last week
15:07:59 <stgraber> - Working on Edubuntu mostly this week, trying to get everyting in shape by tomorrow
15:08:03 <stgraber> - Rewrote ltsp-live entirely, testing it now should be uploaded this afternoon
15:08:06 <stgraber> - Patched unity-greeter a bit to work better with flavours
15:08:08 <stgraber> - Various theming/UI updates
15:08:11 <stgraber> - Work on the installer slideshow
15:08:13 <stgraber> - Other than that, fought with my SAN for two hours yesterday, it finally works again :)
15:08:17 <stgraber> - Still working with TPM trying to get it working in a PPA for Oneiric and hopefully in P.
15:08:20 <stgraber> - TODO list
15:08:22 <stgraber> - Fix iTalc FTBFS (apparently can't find QT since multiarch change)
15:08:25 <stgraber> - Manual IPv6 testing for cyphermox
15:08:27 <stgraber> - Work on automated testing of IPv6 for QA
15:08:30 <stgraber> wow, looks like it did!
15:08:32 <stgraber> (done)
15:08:38 <ev> - Lots of work on wireless networking and webcam pages on the installer, now
15:08:38 <ev> done and uploaded.
15:08:39 <ev> - Expanded tests for ubiquity.
15:08:39 <ev> - Helped the web team review their plans for developer.ubuntu.com.
15:08:39 <ev> - More fixes/breakage to gst-plugins-{good,bad}.
15:08:40 <ev> - Port the noninteractive frontend to PyGI.
15:08:40 <ev> (done)
15:08:54 <cjwatson> Mostly slogging through NBS and build failures this week (libav, evolution, ibus, gnustep, etc. etc. ad nauseam).  Melting laptop with pbuilder.
15:08:57 <cjwatson> Some more tweaks to LP API syncpackage; now merged, although there are some more to-do items (partly in Launchpad).
15:09:00 <cjwatson> Trying *again* to get my Launchpad dpkg-xz-support branch merged.  Current blocker is new EC2 images ...
15:09:04 <cjwatson> Various discussions about rotational maintenance team.
15:09:06 <cjwatson> Took a small hatchet to console-cyrillic to fix bug 597673.
15:09:08 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 597673 in console-cyrillic (Ubuntu Oneiric) "console-cyrillic changes settings on consoles it doesn't own, causing crashes with plymouth + X" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/597673
15:09:09 <cjwatson> Working on switching Chinese edition images over to new ubuntu-defaults-image build framework.  Nearly there.
15:09:12 <cjwatson> Provisionally arranged accommodation for the release sprint.
15:09:14 <cjwatson> Planning some UEFI testing soon to make sure that's in shape for beta.
15:09:17 <cjwatson> --
15:09:30 <doko> rotational maintenance team?
15:09:58 <cjwatson> only a tentative idea as yet, I'll tell you about it after the meeting :)
15:10:15 <slangasek> stgraber: ping me if you need any help with the Qt multiarch problem
15:10:50 <stgraber> slangasek: I probably will. I can build it fine but I'd rather avoid patching its configure file to achieve that ;)
15:11:20 <doko> - archive test rebuild: amd64 finished, i386 at libx,
15:11:20 <doko> ~1100 ftbfs in the bug tracker.
15:11:20 <doko> - sent gcc-multiarch patch upstream, not yet accepted,
15:11:20 <doko> maintainers would like to see a multiarch definition
15:11:20 <doko> documentation first.
15:11:21 <doko> - backported the multiarch patch to 4.4, 4.5, 4.6.
15:11:23 <doko> gcc, gcj, gnat uploads
15:11:25 <doko> - eglibc merge
15:11:27 <doko> - got the MIR queue down
15:11:29 <doko> - chased down libreoffice build failure on armel
15:11:31 <doko> - integrated libffi, eglibc, gcc patches to get
15:11:33 <doko> openjdk-6 built on armhf (with help from xranby)
15:11:35 <doko> jamvm doesn't yet run on armhf.
15:11:37 <doko> - ftbfs fixing
15:11:39 <doko> - started the rebuild test on armel
15:11:41 <slangasek> well, sometimes patching configure (... configure.in, I mean) is the right fix; there's a lot of wrong detection code out there
15:11:41 <doko> - linaro toolchain working group calls
15:11:43 <doko> make it 1150 now
15:12:01 <slangasek> cjwatson: how are EC2 images blocking dpkg-xz-support?  Resource contention?
15:13:03 <cjwatson> slangasek: Launchpad EC2 test images, not ours
15:13:28 <slangasek> doko: (done)?
15:13:30 <cjwatson> slangasek: apparently they only get auto-upgraded when creating a new image, not at the start of a test, so they still have the old python-apt and fail; StevenK is working on getting me new images
15:13:35 <doko> --
15:13:39 <slangasek> cjwatson: ah
15:13:52 <slangasek> doko: thanks :)
15:13:54 <slangasek> * follow through on flashplugin multiarch support, proposing package changes to auto-upgrade users to the i386 package for natty->oneiric; ran afoul of a remaining apt multiarch bug
15:13:58 <slangasek> * found some aptdaemon multiarch bugs, which mvo has now fixed
15:14:01 <slangasek> * fixing some startup-related bugs in nfs-utils
15:14:03 <slangasek> * qemu-linaro updated packaging, will look for an FFe (fixes FTBFS)
15:14:06 <slangasek> * fixed some of the FTBFS bugs
15:14:08 <slangasek> * sponsored ibus update for CJK issues
15:14:11 <slangasek> * helping a bit with NBS now
15:14:15 <slangasek> (done)
15:15:25 <slangasek> any questions on anything above?
15:15:58 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Bugs
15:15:58 <meetingology> TOPIC: Bugs
15:16:06 * slangasek hands the mic to bdmurray
15:16:18 <bdmurray> So we've had some new mostly installer related bugs coming in
15:16:30 <bdmurray> like bug 830940
15:16:32 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 830940 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Oneiric) "Where are you: No location selected by default" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/830940
15:16:49 <bdmurray> and a couple of others which have been assigned to ev
15:16:51 <ev> yeah, on my list
15:17:15 <bdmurray> Also I was looking at bug 831752 yesterday and wanted to make sure I was testing it right
15:17:16 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 831752 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "Command-line Install on Minimal CD tries to boot graphically" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/831752
15:17:25 <cjwatson> I looked at a couple of them but they mostly seemed to be to do with the PyGI migration, and I don't have much experience with that yet
15:18:25 <cjwatson> bdmurray: that sounds like the right test
15:18:31 <bdmurray> cjwatson: okay thanks
15:18:48 <bdmurray> Generally speaking with bugs I've been making some good progress with ubiquity bug reports
15:18:55 <bdmurray> http://people.canonical.com/~brian/complete-graphs/ubiquity/plots/ubiquity-halfyear-triaging.png
15:19:15 <bdmurray> Where I've been creating a duplicate signature using information in the syslog
15:19:47 <slangasek> \o/
15:19:48 <bdmurray> and then doing some manual consolidation.  However, I'd like to talk to ev and or cjwatson about this to make sure my logic is sound and get it into the apport package hook for ubiquity
15:20:17 <bdmurray> and also to find out how to work with the GrubInstaller failure failures
15:22:18 <bdmurray> So could we talk after the meeting?
15:22:29 <ev> sure
15:22:47 <bdmurray> okay thanks, that is all I have
15:23:10 <slangasek> thanks, Brian
15:23:33 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Beta
15:23:33 <meetingology> TOPIC: Beta
15:24:06 <slangasek> so we haven't talked a whole lot about milestoned bugs lately... but the list for beta-1 is kinda long, so I thought I would draw your attention to it
15:24:09 <slangasek> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+bugs?field.milestone=39143
15:25:13 <slangasek> many of these are for other teams, but there's definitely some work for us to do on there
15:25:34 <slangasek> (bdmurray: I guess there's no good way to filter that for bugs on packages we care about until we have structural subscriber exposed?)
15:25:54 <bdmurray> slangasek: there is probably a way now ;-)
15:26:03 <cjwatson> I'll need to have another look at the grub/LVM bug this week, I guess; it was opaque to me last time I looked
15:26:36 <bdmurray> slangasek: using the API though
15:26:42 <slangasek> bdmurray: ah, ok
15:26:55 <slangasek> I'll have a look at the sqlite one
15:26:58 <slangasek> I loves me some demotions
15:27:03 <cjwatson> ev: do you want me to take bug 420080, since you have a lot of ubiquity bugs?
15:27:05 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 420080 in partman-crypto (Ubuntu) "Configure encrypted volumes destroys existing data" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/420080
15:27:11 <slangasek> (things you don't want to hear your manager say, #62)
15:27:13 <cjwatson> (not that I'm looking forward to it)
15:27:23 <ev> cjwatson: please do
15:27:34 <ev> thanks
15:27:37 <cjwatson> I'm generally churning through build failures as time permits
15:28:29 <cjwatson> I'm mostly using https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-11.10-beta-1 - it doesn't show the package, and has invalid and fixed bugs, but it does show the assignee which I find handy
15:28:41 <slangasek> ev: bug #825786 needs fixed ASAP, it will cause upgrade problems for just about everyone running oneiric; will you get to that today, or shall I take it?
15:28:43 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 825786 in gst-plugins-bad0.10 (Ubuntu Oneiric) "package gstreamer0.10-camerabin (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstcamerabin.so', which is also in package gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad 0.10.22-2ubuntu1" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/825786
15:28:52 <ev> slangasek: already uploaded
15:29:02 <slangasek> ah
15:29:15 <ev> oh, maybe not
15:29:18 <ev> this looks different
15:29:43 <slangasek> yes, this is because you moved another file between packages, the Breaks/Replaces version needs bumped in -good
15:30:17 <slangasek> mvo: do I remember correctly that you said DonKult had a fix for bug #802901?
15:30:18 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 802901 in apt (Ubuntu Oneiric) ""E: Internal Error, Could not early remove linux-libc-dev" in multiarch chroot" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/802901
15:30:52 <ev> slangasek: oh, I just bumped that with the previous upload this morning
15:31:00 <mvo> slangasek: let me double check but I think I uploaded a fix for this already
15:31:30 <mvo> yeah, pointing to debian instead of LP for the bug
15:32:16 <mvo> sorry for that, set to fix-released
15:32:45 <slangasek> ev: ah, ok - thanks, closing
15:33:03 <slangasek> hmm, I guess the bug reported there actually *was* the earlier issue... ohwell, all fixed now
15:33:06 <ev> sure thing
15:34:10 <slangasek> so yeah, then there are a whole bunch of build failures on the list if people want to help out with those :)
15:34:44 <slangasek> any other comments on beta bugs?
15:35:22 <cjwatson> mostly just OMG
15:35:42 * slangasek nods
15:35:47 <cjwatson> normally they're mostly desktop, but in this case there are a lot on our list
15:36:36 <slangasek> seems a lot of that is due to more aggressive targeting of bug reports?
15:36:44 <cjwatson> that may be, especially build failures
15:36:57 <slangasek> at least we'll keep busy :)
15:37:21 <cjwatson> oh, yes, can somebody take bug 575469?  it's assigned to Surbhi
15:37:22 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 575469 in friendly-recovery (Ubuntu Oneiric) "recovery mode mounts filesystems read-write rather than read-only" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/575469
15:38:08 <slangasek> stgraber: can you take that?
15:38:10 <cjwatson> may need some thought on how to deal gracefully with recovery menu items that require RW
15:38:48 <stgraber> slangasek: yeah, I'm not too familiar with friendly-recovery but I'm happy to take it, as long as it's not expected to be fixed by beta1.
15:39:16 <slangasek> stgraber: targeted to beta-1 currently, but it's medium - don't sweat it if it slips
15:39:40 <stgraber> slangasek: ok. I'll "try" to have a look next week, worst case I'll definitely have time for it post-beta1
15:39:55 <slangasek> ok
15:40:05 <slangasek> [TOPIC] AOB
15:40:05 <meetingology> TOPIC: AOB
15:40:36 <slangasek> anything else?
15:41:24 <mvo> I'm on vacation next week and the week after just, just FYI
15:41:35 * slangasek nods
15:41:43 <slangasek> I'm on vacation myself the week after next
15:41:57 * doko should plan for vacation too ...
15:41:59 <slangasek> wandering around France and England
15:42:20 <ev> going to be in london at all?
15:42:38 <mvo> slangasek: sounds nice!
15:42:41 <slangasek> ev: only for transit connections :)
15:42:49 <ev> heh, fair enough
15:44:12 <slangasek> mvo: my first time visiting France (instead of passing through) in 15 years... my French is a little rusty :)
15:44:23 <slangasek> #endmeeting