== Meeting information ==

 * #ubuntu-desktop: Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2021-02-23, started by kenvandine, 23 Feb at 14:30 — 15:00 UTC.
 * Full logs at https://new.ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2021/ubuntu-desktop.2021-02-23-14.30.log.html



== Meeting summary ==

=== rls-hh-bugs ===

Discussion started by kenvandine at 14:32.


=== rls-gg-bugs ===

Discussion started by kenvandine at 14:33.

 * ''LINK:'' https://forum.manjaro.org/t/failed-update-due-to-conflicting-packages-pipewire-pulse-and-pulseaudio/46739/3   (hellsworth, 14:41)

=== rls-ff-bugs ===

Discussion started by kenvandine at 14:45.


=== rls-bb-bugs ===

Discussion started by kenvandine at 14:52.


=== update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages ===

Discussion started by kenvandine at 14:53.


=== aob ===

Discussion started by kenvandine at 14:55.




== People present (lines said) ==

 * kenvandine (44)
 * Laney (12)
 * hellsworth (8)
 * ubot5 (4)
 * didrocks999 (3)
 * meetingology (2)
 * Trevinho (2)
 * marcustomlinson (2)
 * RikMills (1)
 * ricotz (1)
 * tjaalton (1)
 * oSoMoN (1)



== Full log ==


 14:30 <kenvandine> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2021-02-23

 14:30 <meetingology> Meeting started at 14:30:27 UTC.  The chair is kenvandine.  Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology

 14:30 <hellsworth> whew! not late!

 14:30 <meetingology> Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick

 14:30 <kenvandine> Roll call:  didrocks, duflu (out), jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, seb128 (out), tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out), hellsworth

 14:30 <hellsworth> o/

 14:30 <Trevinho> o/

 14:30 <didrocks999> o/

 14:30 <marcustomlinson> 👋🏻

 14:32 <kenvandine> let's get started

 14:32 <kenvandine> #topic rls-hh-bugs

 14:32 <kenvandine> nothing new incoming and tracking is in order

 14:33 <kenvandine> #topic rls-gg-bugs

 14:34 <kenvandine> should we do anything with bug 1897965 ?

 14:34 <ubot5> bug 1897965 in pipewire (Ubuntu) "PulseAudio doesn't work when pipewire is installed (ie. KDE)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1897965

 14:35 <kenvandine> and bug 1905370 is still on incoming, but based on Trevinho's comment should this be assigned and tracked?

 14:35 <ubot5> bug 1905370 in gnome-shell-extension-appindicator (Ubuntu) "Qt-based tray icons not displayed on start-up" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1905370

 14:36 <kenvandine> oh, it is assigned

 14:36 * kenvandine drops tag

 14:36 <hellsworth> kenvandine: looks like pipewire and pulseaudio support is in conflict: https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/pipewire-update-conflicts-with-puseaudio/10106

 14:37 <hellsworth> and so there's pipewire-plus to serve as pipewire+pulse

 14:37 <hellsworth> so maybe 1897965 doesn't need work

 14:38 <marcustomlinson> comment #16

 14:38 <Trevinho> well pipewire is a drop-in replacement for PA. But IMHO those are not a prio so far, since we don't support it as audio subsystem replacement yet,

 14:38 <kenvandine> we don't have a pipewire-pulse package

 14:39 <Laney> This is all from 20.10

 14:39 <Laney> I feel like this is probably a problem not for us

 14:39 <Laney> or has anyone seen anything like this on hisute?

 14:39 <Laney> r

 14:39 <kenvandine> yeah

 14:39 <kenvandine> the bug was reported before hirsute

 14:40 <kenvandine> so it might still exist

 14:41 <hellsworth> also it looks like it's being recommended to remove pipewire-pulse in other forums like manjaro so nvm

 14:41 <hellsworth> https://forum.manjaro.org/t/failed-update-due-to-conflicting-packages-pipewire-pulse-and-pulseaudio/46739/3

 14:43 <kenvandine> i left a comment, moving on

 14:43 <RikMills> see the changelog in hirsute in: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pipewire/0.3.19-3

 14:44 <Laney> right, you have to opt in (I did that on my desktop)

 14:44 <kenvandine> RikMills, thanks!

 14:44 <Laney> notfixing imho

 14:44 <kenvandine> agreed

 14:45 <kenvandine> tracking looks fine

 14:45 <kenvandine> moving on

 14:45 <kenvandine> #topic rls-ff-bugs

 14:46 <kenvandine> should we do anything with bug 1910838?

 14:46 <ubot5> bug 1910838 in gnome-shell-extension-appindicator (Ubuntu) "stopped working after latest update" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1910838

 14:47 <kenvandine> it's incomplete waiting for a response

 14:47 <kenvandine> feels like that shouldn't be on incoming ?

 14:47 <didrocks999> right

 14:47 <Laney> indeed

 14:48 <kenvandine> bug 1911802 is assigned but not targetted

 14:48 <ubot5> bug 1911802 in mesa (Ubuntu) "Video glitches playing hardware accelerated video through VAAPI" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1911802

 14:48 <kenvandine> tjaalton: ^^

 14:49 <ricotz> hey kenvandine hellsworth

 14:49 <kenvandine> since that was as a regression, should we just go ahead and target it?

 14:49 <kenvandine> hey ricotz!

 14:50 <hellsworth> hey ricotz !

 14:50 <Laney> kenvandine: yes but that might not make tjaalton work on it, so a ping is a good idea too

 14:51 <kenvandine> targeted and pinged... will ping again later if needed :)

 14:51 <kenvandine> moving on

 14:52 <kenvandine> ff-tracking looks fine

 14:52 <kenvandine> #topic rls-bb-bugs

 14:52 <kenvandine> nothing new on incoming

 14:53 <kenvandine> and tracking is all assigned or fix committed

 14:53 <kenvandine> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages

 14:53 <kenvandine> Laney: anything to mention there?

 14:54 <kenvandine> bluez has been there for 18 days

 14:54 <tjaalton> kenvandine: yeah it's fixed in 20.3 and up but would need someone to bisect

 14:54 <Laney> well nothing in particular

 14:54 <Laney> but stuff needs working on

 14:54 <Laney> I'm not sure we can assign things here though

 14:55 <Laney> see ubuntu-devel mailing list, new glib causes some build failures, good to be aware of and maybe help fixing those which get flagged

 14:55 <kenvandine> ok

 14:55 <kenvandine> #topic aob

 14:56 <oSoMoN> thunderbird is affected by this new glib thing, working on fixing it

 14:58 <kenvandine> oSoMoN: thanks

 14:58 <kenvandine> any other business?

 14:58 <didrocks999> nothing for me

 14:59 <kenvandine> going once...

 14:59 <kenvandine> twice...

 14:59 <kenvandine> that's all folks, thanks!

 15:00 <kenvandine> #endmeeting



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