14:30 <seb128> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-01-07
14:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jan  7 14:30:40 2020 UTC.  The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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14:31 <seb128> Roll call:  didrocks (off), duflu (off), heather, jamesh, jibel, kenvandine, laney, marcustomlinson (out), oSoMoN, tkamppeter (out), trevinho, robert_ancell (out)
14:31 <oSoMoN> o/
14:31 <seb128> happy 2020, I hope everyone had nice holidays
14:31 <kenvandine> o/
14:31 <Laney> yo
14:31 <hellsworth> \o
14:32 <seb128> k, let's get started
14:32 <seb128> #topic rls-bb-bugs
14:32 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html
14:32 <seb128> bug #1854363
14:32 <ubot5> bug 1854363 in thunderbird (Ubuntu) "[upstream] Typo in thunderbird code prevents central configuration" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1854363
14:32 <seb128> that's a regression for the update uploaded to security before the holidays, I tagged it
14:33 <seb128> it's not going to impact most users but still it's a LTS regression and has been reported
14:33 <seb128> I vote +1 to accept it :)
14:33 <oSoMoN> sounds reasonable
14:33 <seb128> oSoMoN, thx
14:34 <seb128> since we have the maintainer agreement, let's move on!
14:34 <seb128> bug #1855893
14:34 <ubot5> bug 1855893 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "Properly let PCM leave suspended state when hardware doesn't support PCM resume" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1855893
14:35 <seb128> it's an oem team request and seems reasonable
14:35 <seb128> I vote +1 to accept it
14:35 <seb128> other opinions?
14:35 <hellsworth> seems like a reasonable suggestion
14:35 <hellsworth> +1
14:36 <seb128> thx, moving on then
14:36 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html
14:37 <seb128> the only unassigned one are the NMs ones we said we would discuss in another meeting but didn't do yet
14:37 <seb128> I'm going to skip that
14:37 <seb128> I'm also going to skip disco at this point, doesn't make sense to upload new SRUs for that serie now
14:38 <seb128> #topic rls-ee-bugs
14:38 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html
14:38 <seb128> no desktop entries
14:38 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html
14:39 <seb128> some leftover triaging, I will deal with those after the meeting
14:39 <seb128> #topic rls-ff-bugs
14:39 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html
14:39 <seb128> no desktop ones
14:40 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html
14:40 <seb128> only n-m there as well to triage
14:40 <seb128> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
14:40 <seb128> update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
14:40 <seb128> ups
14:40 <seb128> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
14:40 <seb128> Laney, your turn
14:41 <Laney> thx
14:41 <Laney> one second, browser is being sad
14:42 <Laney> ok
14:42 <Laney> there's a few for tjaalton in there, assuming those are being handled or will be after this ping ;-)
14:43 <Laney> so evolution-data-server (ftbfs) fonts-smc (mir?) brotli (i386 something) libxcb (something) pcsc-lite (dunno)
14:43 <seb128> I did the font MIR this morning
14:44 <seb128> I can do libxcb it's another test that need crossarch use of pkg-config/gcc
14:44 <Laney> that looks like the normal thing
14:44 <hellsworth> what do you do about the ones that are here because of regressions?
14:44 <Laney> I will take the brotli one and ping LocutusOfBorg about pcsc-lite since he synced it
14:44 <hellsworth> do they sit here until the regressions have been fixed?
14:44 <Laney> yeah
14:45 <Laney> but those xorg/mesa ones are for Timo
14:45 <seb128> I would argue e-d-s should be fixed by vorlon since he broke it by doing i386 hacks, I will ping him
14:45 <Laney> ok, I didn't know if he just got unlucky being the next uploader
14:45 <seb128> tjaalton, ^ please confirm that you at looking at those
14:45 <Laney> already did ping him a second ago, no need to pile on
14:46 <Laney> anyway someone pls take the font one
14:46 <seb128> k
14:46 <seb128> <seb128> I did the font MIR this morning
14:46 <hellsworth> i'll take a look at fonts-smc
14:46 <hellsworth> oh right
14:46 <Laney> ah cool thx
14:46 <hellsworth> what about pcsc-lite?
14:46 <seb128> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fonts-smc-gayathri/+bug/1858620
14:46 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1858620 in fonts-smc-gayathri (Ubuntu) "[MIR] fonts-smc-gayathri" [Undecided,New]
14:46 <Laney> I was going to ping the person who synced it and see if they will look
14:46 <hellsworth> makes sense
14:47 <hellsworth> if you hit a dead end with that person, i'm happy to take a look
14:47 <seb128> sounds like we are good for this round then
14:47 <hellsworth> i wanted to mention libmail-dkim-perl
14:47 <seb128> oh, snapd-glib ftbfs also, unsure if that's for Robert
14:47 <tjaalton> seb128: if you mean xserver/mesa/glvnd landing on focal, yes
14:47 <seb128> tjaalton, thx
14:48 <kenvandine> seb128: looks like a flaky test in snapd-glib
14:48 <seb128> kenvandine, maybe retry it then?
14:48 <kenvandine> i kicked a rebuild a few minutes ago and it looks like it passed
14:48 <seb128> ah ok
14:48 <seb128> nice
14:48 <hellsworth> both libmail-authenticationresults-perl and libscalar-list-utils-perl ahve been looked at by the security team and suggest they are accepted. i'm not sure what further steps there are to actually get them in.
14:48 <kenvandine> well... "nice"
14:48 <kenvandine> hate flaky tests
14:48 <seb128> right
14:48 <Laney> file a bug about it?
14:49 <Laney> in general I don't look at those greyed out ones, (1) in case things sort themselves out, (2) to give people a chance to do it themselves without being hassled
14:49 <seb128> @perl MIR, it looks like the MIR team/cpaelzer were fine with those
14:49 <Laney> looks like people don't agree with that policy?
14:50 <hellsworth> seb128: right so what's the next step to get them into main?
14:50 <cpaelzer> ?
14:50 <seb128> but maybe ping cpaelzer about it on #ubuntu-devel just to know if he consider those as +1 now
14:50 <seb128> cpaelzer, sorry, I forgot you were there :)
14:50 <cpaelzer> I'm trying to be everywhere
14:51 * Laney looks under the sofa
14:51 <cpaelzer> trying to ...
14:51 <seb128> cpaelzer, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libmail-authenticationresults-perl/+bug/1853175 got a +1 from security team, we were wondering if that need to bounce back to you to gave the final +1 next?
14:51 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1853175 in libmail-authenticationresults-perl (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libmail-authenticationresults-perl" [Undecided,New]
14:51 <cpaelzer> checking ...
14:51 <seb128> cpaelzer, and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libscalar-list-utils-perl/+bug/1854849
14:51 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1854849 in libscalar-list-utils-perl (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libscalar-list-utils-perl" [Undecided,New]
14:51 <seb128> thx
14:51 <seb128> k
14:51 <seb128> Laney, I think we can call it done for that section of the meeting?
14:51 <hellsworth> cpaelzer: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libscalar-list-utils-perl/+bug/1854849 too
14:52 <Laney> ok
14:52 <seb128> thx
14:52 <seb128> @topic AOB
14:52 <seb128> #topic AOB
14:52 <Laney> would be good to consider my previous comment
14:52 <seb128> anything else to discuss today?
14:52 <cpaelzer> seb128: Both had the MIR Team ack already
14:52 <seb128> Laney, sorry I didn't see your question earlier, crossed discussions
14:52 <hellsworth> Laney: I agree that the grey ones might sort themselves out so not looking at them until they become bold makes sense to me
14:52 <cpaelzer> seb128: and if we wollow the little state chart onhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MIRTeam#Process_states
14:53 <cpaelzer> that means after security ack (which we got) they are good to go
14:53 <cpaelzer> If the changes are already in proposed that pulls things in "Fxi Committed"
14:53 <seb128> cpaelzer, k, that chart has them as "fix commited" when they are good o go so I was unsure
14:53 <cpaelzer> if the changes are not there yet "In Progress"
14:54 <hellsworth> oh ok thank you very much!
14:54 <cpaelzer> security Team doesn't want to change states, so we have to clean them up after their reviewed most of the time
14:54 <seb128> Laney, but yeah, ignoring the grey ones makes sense to me
14:54 <seb128> they are often in flux indeed
14:54 <seb128> cpaelzer, k, which is what made me unsure/to ping :)
14:54 <cpaelzer> well done :-)
14:54 <seb128> cpaelzer, thx for clarifying
14:55 <cpaelzer> hellsworth: so set the state whatever matches the current upload state
14:55 <cpaelzer> and once things show up in component-mismatches (which might be now already) get the attention of your favourite AA
14:55 <hellsworth> what is an AA?
14:55 <hellsworth> sorry, i'm new here :)
14:55 <kenvandine> archive admin
14:56 <cpaelzer> thanks kenvandine
14:56 <seb128> k
14:56 <Laney> they can execute the move to main
14:56 <hellsworth> ok
14:56 <cpaelzer> hellsworth: from this chat the closest AA to ask might be seb128 :-)
14:56 <seb128> right :)
14:56 <hellsworth> oh ok cool :)
14:56 <seb128> I will have a look after the meeting
14:56 <seb128> any other topic?
14:56 <kenvandine> my favorite AA :)
14:56 <cpaelzer> oh meeting - then sorry to interrupt - cpaelzer out
14:57 <seb128> lol
14:57 <seb128> cpaelzer, to be fair we are the ones who summoned you :)
14:57 <seb128> thx for responding/helping us to get those MIRs sorted out!
14:57 <hellsworth> ok made them fix committed. thanks for the advice, yall
14:57 <cpaelzer> only because I try to get under Laneys couch to scare him
14:57 <seb128> and it looks like we have no other topic for the meeting, so let's wrap now
14:57 <seb128> thanks everyone!
14:57 <hellsworth> thanks!
14:58 <oSoMoN> thanks
14:58 <seb128> #endmeeting