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19:41:41 <phillw> #chair MasterComputer
19:41:41 <meetingology> Current chairs: MasterComputer phillw
19:41:48 <MasterComputer> show of hands, please?
19:41:51 <Gentoolx> o/
19:41:52 <phillw> o/
19:43:05 <MasterComputer> 0////
19:43:39 <phillw> I believe Jacky is joining once he's showered & dried
19:44:42 <Gentoolx> Okay, so we are talking about our task list, right?
19:44:58 * Jacky finishes drying.
19:45:00 <Jacky> yup
19:45:17 <MasterComputer> #topic Updates on task list.
19:45:23 <MasterComputer> ...hmm
19:45:36 * MasterComputer pokes meetingology
19:45:42 <MasterComputer> I was sure it was supposed to say something...
19:46:09 <phillw> #topic Updates on task list
19:46:15 <phillw> it is....
19:47:03 <MasterComputer> Hm
19:47:06 <MasterComputer> Well, anyway
19:47:22 <MasterComputer> Gentoolx, Jacky, anything to update about the task list? Justin is around, just busy, he may join us later.
19:47:48 <Gentoolx> Okay, let me analyze.
19:47:58 <Gentoolx> Work on the wiki docs: partial.
19:48:08 <Gentoolx> Python bindings: partial
19:48:36 <Gentoolx> Speaking of them, I've solved some problems so I should proceed quickly with them.
19:48:44 <MasterComputer> good man, gentoolx
19:49:10 <Gentoolx> I don't know what does "Qt or Webkit" point mean.
19:49:28 <MasterComputer> Hm. I cant recall.
19:49:30 <MasterComputer> Jacky?
19:50:06 <Gentoolx> Web demo is untouched, of course.
19:50:39 <Gentoolx> So is separate API/software documentation.
19:50:44 <MasterComputer> talking about the website.
19:50:51 <MasterComputer> #Topic website
19:51:11 <MasterComputer> our current website does not make the grade. Alex and Jason are working together on replacing it with a better one
19:51:59 <MasterComputer> I would suggest that we black out our current one until the replacement is up.
19:52:41 <phillw> MasterComputer: I think better to keep at least 'some' presence, but clearly state it is a temporary site.
19:52:58 <phillw> 404 errors are a bitch!
19:53:34 <Gentoolx> Is our Bug tracker broken or what?
19:53:47 <MasterComputer> I would suggest a countdown overlay of some such, if I recall Jacky did something similar a while ago...I think
19:53:59 <MasterComputer> I havent been told of any changes to it, Gentoolx?
19:54:06 <MasterComputer> Paging Jacky....
19:54:33 <Gentoolx> MasterComputer: Well, I can't access it, simply.
19:55:19 <Gentoolx> MasterComputer: I mean, it redirects me to the index.cgi with some Perl content.
19:55:57 <MasterComputer> ugh
19:56:13 <Jacky> O_O
19:56:15 <Jacky> someone broke it then
19:56:16 <MasterComputer> phillw, are you aware of anything in that regard, considering the reboots lately?
19:56:17 <Jacky> it was in working order
19:56:19 <Jacky> yeah
19:56:21 <Jacky> looks like someone change httpd.conf's vhosts
19:56:30 <MasterComputer> *sigh*
19:56:42 <MasterComputer> paging Benny...
19:56:43 * Jacky grabs some food
19:56:54 <phillw> Jacky: bug.thesii.org should still be there?
19:56:57 <phillw> let me ssh in
19:57:13 <Jacky> it works, but bounces to http://thesii.org
19:57:21 <Jacky> following the A name for the DNS
19:57:45 <MasterComputer> oh, yeah, Jacky? Phill and Derrick bought a small army of domain names for us
19:58:10 <MasterComputer> and phillw, Jason may have to drop the .au domain, something to do with an ABN?
19:58:33 <phillw> Jacky: try with www at the start, it may point out if there is a missing setting
19:58:49 <phillw> MasterComputer: what's an ABN?
19:59:04 <Jacky> 120 error
19:59:09 <MasterComputer> Aussie Buisness Number if I recall, phillw. Some sort of legal requirement for an .au name?
19:59:34 <phillw> Ahh, similar to .us needing to be a registered us resident.
20:00:10 <phillw> did he register as thesii.au or with an incorportation such as au.com?
20:00:53 <MasterComputer> I dont know, phillw, I'm afraid it isnt our way to turn everyone into a puppet for me :P
20:01:05 <Jacky> also
20:02:21 <phillw> Jacky: http://thesii.org/bugs/ gives me a shed load of cgi stuff?
20:02:24 <MasterComputer> yes, Jacky?
20:03:17 <MasterComputer> is the bug tracker actually active?
20:03:19 <phillw> Jacky:  bugs.thesii.org should be a pointer to that. I can clear that up.... but why is loading cgi directory?
20:03:51 <phillw> MasterComputer: it will be, just needs correctly pointing to.
20:04:15 <Jacky> phillw: I'll peek into it later tonight
20:04:27 <Jacky> today's my first day back in New York and everyone's tugging me about the place.
20:04:29 <MasterComputer> Hm. Jacky/Phillw, Justin advises we ignore any thoughts of LLP's for now, considering we have confirmed 503(c) status in the US. Unless there is a requirement I'm not aware of?
20:04:46 <MasterComputer> Dibs on Jacky's brain!
20:04:49 <Jacky> yeah 503's the best way if we're looking to be "educational"
20:05:41 <phillw> Jacky: index.html is pointing to http://thesii.org/bugs/index.cgi WTF?
20:05:57 <phillw> you don't have parsing cgi's!!!!!
20:06:04 <MasterComputer> For now, Jacky, I think we could make good progress with education being a proirity. I would also say we need to look at working more like a typical corp.
20:06:17 <Jacky> can we save those erros for after the meeting?
20:06:20 <Jacky> it's broken, we get it :P
20:06:23 <phillw> n.p.
20:06:49 <MasterComputer> Also, side note, can we stop the old SII practice of training new folks on live systems, please?
20:07:11 <MasterComputer> ok, Jacky/Gentoolx; any news about the API's for SC?
20:07:11 <phillw> MasterComputer: chat l8er about that... bank account stuff :)
20:07:56 <MasterComputer> phillw, we cant do a UK company with 503 status. I've checked with J&D, it would be extremely inadvisable.
20:08:17 <MasterComputer> We will have to make do with paypal or another such service to hold any donations for launch
20:08:18 <phillw> MasterComputer: we'll chat after the meeting :)
20:08:24 <MasterComputer> as you wish, phillw
20:09:26 <MasterComputer> now, Jacky/gentoolx, do you also have any news in regards to giving Phillw instructions for testers?
20:10:14 <Gentoolx> MasterComputer: Let's answer your first question.
20:10:52 <Gentoolx> As, I've said, documentation is untouched for now, my main priority is to make Python bindings and a draft of the new front-end.
20:11:56 <MasterComputer> I know, gentoolx, I just saw that comment about the readme file.
20:12:04 <Jacky> I'll work on documentation then tonight as well as getting Bugzilla up
20:12:22 <Gentoolx> Jacky: Have you uploaded your Winty changes?
20:14:30 <Jacky> Gentoolx: I haven't, and with good reason.
20:14:39 <Gentoolx> Okay
20:14:47 <Jacky> I told MasterComputer about this experiment I'm conducting to build a grammar and dictionary db
20:14:57 <Jacky> its in mongodb (working on a driver for winty to handle that)
20:15:38 <MasterComputer> oh yes, Jacky, have you pushed your commits for Winty? :P
20:15:47 <Jacky> MasterComputer: ^^
20:15:50 <Jacky> but brb, I have to buy food
20:16:05 <MasterComputer> oh yes
20:16:14 <MasterComputer> sorry, trying to date and work and eat and smoke and think at the same time
20:25:55 <phillw> MasterComputer: are there any other things that need commit to the meeting minutes?
20:28:36 <phillw> I think I've the glitch in bugzilla, btw. ... I RTFM :)
20:28:55 <phillw> +found
20:38:05 <MasterComputer> good man, phillw
20:38:22 <MasterComputer> other then Jacky's grammer system? No.
20:38:48 <MasterComputer> Gentoolx, remember I mentioned the concept of a 'Seed AI' a while ago? Jacky is creating that seed. Now all we need is one HELL of a plantpot
20:38:58 <MasterComputer> now, Phillw, what did you want to talk about?
20:39:38 <Gentoolx> MasterComputer: Natural language-oriented Seed AI?
20:39:40 <phillw> MasterComputer: I think we have enough to go on now... propose an #endmeeting
20:39:50 <MasterComputer> Yes, Gentoolx
20:39:54 <MasterComputer> #endmeeting